Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3

[Marci Greer]

 Hi Everyone,
 
My kitty Charles (felv positive) has not been feeling to well, 2 days now 
almost everytime he eats he throws some of it up & he is laying around a lot 
too,  it appears his lymph nodes(in this neck) are swollen as well. Its about 
9:20 a.m. this morning, my vet has an opening at 11:00 this morning to take 
him. We have had him since November of 2011, he has not had any issues other 
than a cold. I am just going crazy with worry now. His gums are a normal pink 
color and his appetite is great as usual. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 3

[Maryam Ulomi]

Hi,
I'm very sorry Charles is not feeling well. Make sure they do a complete blood 
work when you go this morning. 
Best of luck,

Mally

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:26, Marci Greer  wrote:

> 
>  Hi Everyone,
>  
> My kitty Charles (felv positive) has not been feeling to well, 2 days now 
> almost everytime he eats he throws some of it up & he is laying around a lot 
> too,  it appears his lymph nodes(in this neck) are swollen as well. Its about 
> 9:20 a.m. this morning, my vet has an opening at 11:00 this morning to take 
> him. We have had him since November of 2011, he has not had any issues other 
> than a cold. I am just going crazy with worry now. His gums are a normal pink 
> color and his appetite is great as usual. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks
>  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rehoming positive kittens

[Lorrie]

Hi Katherine,  I have had no luck rehoming FelV kittens other than ONE
wonderful couple who took a  kitten knowing he might die. They spent over
$1,000 trying to save his life, but he died at 1 1/2 years old. I have my
own no kill, cageless sanctuary, and most of the FelV kittens there have 
died at less than a year old. 

It is hard enough to find good homes for kittens who are not positive
as times are hard, people are out of work and the shelters are full of 
wonderful cats and kittens who need homes. It is heartbreaking to know
most of them will be euthanized.

I hope you have better luck finding homes than I have.

Lorrie in WV


On 08-08, Katherine Kershaw wrote:
>Has anyone had luck with rehoming kittens who test positive for FeLV? I
>have been fostering healthy kittens successfully for a number of years
>with a local rescue group here in North Carolina. In May I got a litter
>of 4 when they were 2 weeks old. Mom tested negative so we didn't test
>the babies until last month. They all turned up positive on ELISA and
>IFA tests. Mom has since been adopted. The rescue group I foster with
>does not officially adopt out FIV/FeLV kittens so I am independently
>trying to rehome the kittens (the org funded all testing, shots,
>microchips, spay/neutering, etc so nothing has been out of pocket for
>me so far except litter).

>Otherwise they are all healthy, happy and very friendly. They have been
>fixed, microchipped and vaccinated and are 4 months old now. I have
>posted them on a couple of rescue sites and plan to put up flyers
>around town. I know the chances of them finding homes are slim since
>it's hard enough to find homes for healthy kittens but I have to try.

>To complicate things (or simplify depending on how you look at it), my
>10 year old cat became ill and tested positive for FeLV last month as
>well. I have no way to know if he was a latent carrier all along and
>gave it to the kittens, or if they got it from their dad and gave it to
>him, or if it's just a coincidence that they all had it. His health has
>been up and down since and I have started him on LTCI injections and am
>keeping him and the kittens separate from each other.
>If anyone has any rehoming tips, ideas or success stories I'd love to
>hear them. Thanks!
>Katherine


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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

[Lorrie]

Lee, if I knew Karen's physical address I could have PetFlow or another
Petfood company deliver several large bags of cat food to her.  I wish
I could do more, but I have 30 cats of my own and a very expensive no
kill, cageless cat sanctuary building to keep up.

PLease keep us updated about Karen.  I am so sorry she is having such
problems.

Lorrie in WV


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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[Marci Greer]

 
Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an 
xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it 
could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of 
Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that the Lasix gets 
rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor.  If 
anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[Maryam Ulomi]

I'll be praying for Charles!
Lets hope he is back healthy very soon!

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 14:40, Marci Greer  wrote:

> 
>  
> Hi everyone,
> We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his 
> chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it 
> could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of 
> Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that 
> the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if 
> it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want
> to loose one of our babies.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[KG BarnCats]

I am sorry to say wet FIP is another possible cause of fluid in the chest.
 There is no definitive test but there are suggestive bloodwork results,
also if fluid can be tapped off, it can be examined.  FIP fluid is
typically yellowish and sticky.  A Rivalta test can also be done on the
fluid.  there is no cure or effective treatment for wet FIP, although the
slower moving dry FIP form has been successfully treated with polyprenyl
immunostimulant (PI).  Neither form is contagious, as FIP is believed to
arise independently when a cat infected with the common and otherwise mild
coronavirus has the virus mutate for unknown reasons.  FELV+ cats are
apparently more susceptible to the mutations and thus FIP.

I lost my 7 month old FELV+ Smokey to abdominal wet FIP in a matter of
days, just as he was beating a bad URI with help of interferon omega and
PI.  The swelling made him very uncomfortable so we let him go.

Laurie


On Saturday, August 10, 2013, Marci Greer 
wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of
his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it
>
> could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of
Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that
>
> the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time
if it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want
>
> to loose one of our babies.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[Margo]

Hi Marcy,
 
    Sorry to hear Charles is having problems. In an FeLV positive boy, my first thought is lymphoma. While it isnt always FeLV related, the possiblity is there. I'd suggest joining the feline lymphoma list 
 
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/
 
 and getting familiar with what you may be up against. Since Charles has not been formally diagnosed, it could be anything, so this would just be a way to learn of the different ways to diagnose and treat certain tumors. Here's a pretty concise description of the different ways lymphoma can manifest;
 
http://www.fabcats.org/owners/cancer/lymphoma.html
 
  I will hope that it turns out to be something simply remedied, and not a tumor, but better to be prepared with what kind of treatment you are interested in, if any.
 
All the best
 
Margo
 
 
 
-Original Message- From: Marci Greer Sent: Aug 10, 2013 2:40 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 


 
Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[Margo]

    With fluid only in Charles' chest I'd think FIP less likely, but this should help with evaluating what kind of testing might be in order.
 
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=681Imagine
 
    I have been given an "FIP diagnosis" more times than I care to remember, and it was never found to be accurate on necropsy. It is out there, but diagnosing it is very tough, and the symptoms are so nebulous and easily attributable to other things, that I now focus on what _else_ I may be dealing with, that may respond to treatment. In addition to lymphoma, chylothorax is another condition which results in the accumulation of thoracic fluid, and can be treated, and even resolved. There was a recent thread about that, I'll see if I can find out which list had it, and link.
 
HTH
 
Margo
 
-Original Message- From: KG BarnCats Sent: Aug 10, 2013 3:08 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 I am sorry to say wet FIP is another possible cause of fluid in the chest.  There is no definitive test but there are suggestive bloodwork results, also if fluid can be tapped off, it can be examined.  FIP fluid is typically yellowish and sticky.  A Rivalta test can also be done on the fluid.  there is no cure or effective treatment for wet FIP, although the slower moving dry FIP form has been successfully treated with polyprenyl immunostimulant (PI).  Neither form is contagious, as FIP is believed to arise independently when a cat infected with the common and otherwise mild coronavirus has the virus mutate for unknown reasons.  FELV+ cats are apparently more susceptible to the mutations and thus FIP. I lost my 7 month old FELV+ Smokey to abdominal wet FIP in a matter of days, just as he was beating a bad URI with help of interferon omega and PI.  The swelling made him very uncomfortable so we let him go.LaurieOn Saturday, August 10, 2013, Marci Greer  wrote:>>  >> Hi everyone,>> We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it >> could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that >> the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want>> to loose one of our babies. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

[Shelley Theye]

Hi Marcy,

I didn't get your original email, but did see Margo's response.
I seem to be having problems with only receiving some emails since recently 
joining this list.

I don't have much experience with FeLV related illnesses yet, but I just wanted 
to ask if they ruled out something like hypertrophic cardiomyopathy?  Heart 
failure could cause fluid, and in that case, steroids should NOT be given.  But 
lasix can be given.
Since they already gave him a steroid shot, just keep a good eye on him.

My cat, years ago, was fine one day and then his chest became full of fluid.  
His only symptom was that he coughed a tiny bit 
as though he had a hairball, and he didn't want to eat his breakfast which was 
very out of character for him.  Lasix helped him.  
That was his only treatment.  They checked his heart at a later appt. and it 
was fine.  Initially they thought FIP, but it wasn't (we did a titer and it was 
neg.), and after that incident he was fine and lived many more years!  The vet 
didn't want to check the chest fluid at the time because
she had lost a cat doing that once, so she just used lasix.

My theory was that he had a heartworm, and the ivermectin that they gave him 
for ear mites  a week prior might have killed the
heartworm, and it broke up and caused the fluid...but will never know for sure. 
 This all happened shortly after I adopted him
as an adult cat.

Hope Charles begins to feel better. 

Shelley

On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Margo wrote:

> 
> Hi Marcy,
>  
> Sorry to hear Charles is having problems. In an FeLV positive 
> boy, my first thought is lymphoma. While it isnt always FeLV related, the 
> possiblity is there. I'd suggest joining the feline lymphoma list
>  
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/
>  
>  and getting familiar with what you may be up against. Since 
> Charles has not been formally diagnosed, it could be anything, so this would 
> just be a way to learn of the different ways to diagnose and treat certain 
> tumors. Here's a pretty concise description of the different ways lymphoma 
> can manifest;
>  
> http://www.fabcats.org/owners/cancer/lymphoma.html
>  
>   I will hope that it turns out to be something simply remedied, 
> and not a tumor, but better to be prepared with what kind of treatment you 
> are interested in, if any.
>  
> All the best
>  
> Margo
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message- 
> From: Marci Greer 
> Sent: Aug 10, 2013 2:40 PM 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 
> 
> 
>  
> Hi everyone,
> We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his 
> chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it 
> could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of 
> Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that 
> the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if 
> it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want
> to loose one of our babies.
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