[Felvtalk] Gum redness
Hello everyone, Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken when faced with this situation. Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Pale gums
Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite problem - pale gums. One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting wet and dry food. I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than usual. Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed quickly. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite problem > - pale gums. > > One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little > skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I > checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings > (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting > wet and dry food. > > I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. > Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than > usual. > > Katherine > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of anemia..missing a mineral or something. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: > Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near > death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ > cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and > think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. > > Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed > quickly. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > >> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite >> problem - pale gums. >> >> One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little >> skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I >> checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings >> (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting >> wet and dry food. >> >> I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. >> Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than >> usual. >> >> Katherine >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with any kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely worriesome. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past > posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently > eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from > corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the > shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of > anemia..missing a mineral or something. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: > >> Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near >> death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ >> cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and >> think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. >> >> Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed >> quickly. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >>> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite >>> problem - pale gums. >>> >>> One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little >>> skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I >>> checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings >>> (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting >>> wet and dry food. >>> >>> I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. >>> Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than >>> usual. >>> >>> Katherine >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Hello Katherine, I definitely have to back Heather here. Pale gums and eating litter are very indicative of anemia. Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, started licking walls and clay planters. She slowly lost interest in her toys and food. By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. The vet didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat her. She was also about six months when she started showing symptoms. We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a vitamin-rich diet and a lot of pampering. She fought through the anemia but we lost her to FIP five months later. I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible. The earlier you catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather wrote: > Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with > any kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their > cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the > vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). > > Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather > err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely > worriesome. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > >> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past >> posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently >> eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from >> corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the >> shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of >> anemia..missing a mineral or something. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: >> >>> Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near >>> death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ >>> cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and >>> think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. >>> >>> Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed >>> quickly. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >>> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite problem - pale gums. One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting wet and dry food. I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than usual. Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Hi Amanda, Can you please tell me more about Petinic and transfer factor? Thanks, Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:31, "Amanda K. Payne" wrote: > > Hello Katherine, > > I definitely have to back Heather here. Pale gums and eating litter are very > indicative of anemia. Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, started > licking walls and clay planters. She slowly lost interest in her toys and > food. By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. The vet > didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat her. She was > also about six months when she started showing symptoms. > > We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a vitamin-rich > diet and a lot of pampering. She fought through the anemia but we lost her > to FIP five months later. > > I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible. The earlier you > catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. > > >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather wrote: >> Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with any >> kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their cat was >> eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the vet >> (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). >> >> Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather err >> to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely >> worriesome. >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >>> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past >>> posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently >>> eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from >>> corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the >>> shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of >>> anemia..missing a mineral or something. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed quickly. > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite > problem - pale gums. > > One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little > skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I > checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 > siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine > and getting wet and dry food. > > I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. > Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than > usual. > > Katherine > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -- > "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Hi, Pet-tinic is a liquid supplement rich in iron, copper and Vitamins B12, B6 and Thiamine, among other vitamins. The belief is that this supplement will help the animal produce more RBCs. There is also a product called Liqui-Tinic which offers similar vitamins and minerals. It does, however, have corn syrup in it which I am not a big fan of. Transfer Factor Plus is a combination of amino acids and vitamins. It's works by boosting the immune system's response. FeLV+ felines are at greater risk for contracting illness because of the virus; by boosting the immune system, they are able to fight opportunistic illness better. I obviously can't guarantee these are what kept her alive. It could have been the constant love, lunch meat or her little body fighting on its own. However, it also didn't hurt. Several people on this forum have used one or the other or both and have had success with them. I truly believe that if she hadn't contracted FIP, she would have continued to recover with the help of these supplements... and endless amounts of lunch meat ;) -A On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Avaykn wrote: > Hi Amanda, > Can you please tell me more about Petinic and transfer factor? > > Thanks, > > Sent from my iPhone. > > On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:31, "Amanda K. Payne" > wrote: > > Hello Katherine, > > I definitely have to back Heather here. Pale gums and eating litter are > very indicative of anemia. Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, > started licking walls and clay planters. She slowly lost interest in her > toys and food. By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. > The vet didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat > her. She was also about six months when she started showing symptoms. > > We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a > vitamin-rich diet and a lot of pampering. She fought through the anemia > but we lost her to FIP five months later. > > I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible. The earlier > you catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather wrote: > >> Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with >> any kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their >> cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the >> vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). >> >> Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather >> err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely >> worriesome. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >>> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading >>> past posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times >>> recently eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter >>> made from corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick >>> the shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms >>> of anemia..missing a mineral or something. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: >>> Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed quickly. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite > problem - pale gums. > > One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a > little skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to > it. I checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 > siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine > and getting wet and dry food. > > I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the > vet. Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so > than usual. > > Katherine > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> ___ >>
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Yes, eating litter, licking things is Pica & indicates severe anemia. Cats can be very sick & still act normal. Most of my FeLV cats have died from anemia. Get him to the vet ASAP. Sorry you are having to go through this. Beth "Katherine K." wrote: >Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past >posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently >eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from >corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the >shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of >anemia..missing a mineral or something. > > >On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: > >> Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near >> death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ >> cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and >> think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. >> >> Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed >> quickly. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >>> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite >>> problem - pale gums. >>> >>> One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little >>> skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I >>> checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings >>> (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting >>> wet and dry food. >>> >>> I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet. >>> Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than >>> usual. >>> >>> Katherine >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Beth Avaykn wrote: >Hello everyone, >Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on her >gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin E and >she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a holistic >vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken when faced >with this situation. >Thanks, > >Mally and Kitty >Sent from my iPhone. >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Watch the lunch meat. I didn't realize a lot of the stuff you get at the deli counter has onions & or garlic added. Beth "Amanda K. Payne" wrote: >Hi, > >Pet-tinic is a liquid supplement rich in iron, copper and Vitamins B12, B6 >and Thiamine, among other vitamins. The belief is that this supplement >will help the animal produce more RBCs. There is also a product called >Liqui-Tinic which offers similar vitamins and minerals. It does, however, >have corn syrup in it which I am not a big fan of. > >Transfer Factor Plus is a combination of amino acids and vitamins. It's >works by boosting the immune system's response. FeLV+ felines are at >greater risk for contracting illness because of the virus; by boosting the >immune system, they are able to fight opportunistic illness better. > >I obviously can't guarantee these are what kept her alive. It could have >been the constant love, lunch meat or her little body fighting on its own. > However, it also didn't hurt. Several people on this forum have used one >or the other or both and have had success with them. I truly believe that >if she hadn't contracted FIP, she would have continued to recover with the >help of these supplements... and endless amounts of lunch meat ;) > >-A > > >On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Avaykn wrote: > >> Hi Amanda, >> Can you please tell me more about Petinic and transfer factor? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:31, "Amanda K. Payne" >> wrote: >> >> Hello Katherine, >> >> I definitely have to back Heather here. Pale gums and eating litter are >> very indicative of anemia. Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, >> started licking walls and clay planters. She slowly lost interest in her >> toys and food. By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. >> The vet didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat >> her. She was also about six months when she started showing symptoms. >> >> We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a >> vitamin-rich diet and a lot of pampering. She fought through the anemia >> but we lost her to FIP five months later. >> >> I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible. The earlier >> you catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather wrote: >> >>> Yes, definitely. I would get him in asap (today). This is a worry with >>> any kitty and especially felv+ kitties. Last time someone told me their >>> cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the >>> vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). >>> >>> Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather >>> err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely >>> worriesome. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >>> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of anemia..missing a mineral or something. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather wrote: > Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near > death. I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap. FELV+ > cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and > think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some > advice. > > Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed > quickly. > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > >> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite >> problem - pale gums. >> >> One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a >> little skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to >> it. I checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 >> siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine >> and getting wet and dry food. >> >> I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the >> vet. Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so >> than usual. >> >> Katherine >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
Hi Beth, Thank you so much, she gets : lysine 500mg a day a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, Missing link amino supplement Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth wrote: > > It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV > kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that > with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life of me > remember what it was. > > Beth > > Avaykn wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on >> her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin >> E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a >> holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken >> when faced with this situation. >> Thanks, >> >> Mally and Kitty >> Sent from my iPhone. >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
Just saw your post here and on the Yahoo! list, but thought that it’d be better if I replied here. Before we knew my FeLV+ cat was FeLV+, her then-vet said that her gums were becoming irritated, and that I needed to switch her to Prescription Diet t/d. I did, and the irritation seemed to go away. She hasn't had any stomatitis or gingivitis issues since then *that I know of*. I don’t know that this is the best solution to Kitty’s issue, but it might be something you could look into as a supplemental option, if she’s good about eating dry food and you think she’s not to the point where it hurts to eat. I don’t give Ember t/d as free-fed dry food any more, but instead give it to her as a treat (four or five pieces in the morning and again at night). Prescription Diet is not the best food, but the texture/composition of this particular formula seem to help with teeth and gum problems. I think it would be good to consider giving Kitty interferon alpha and/or DMG. The latter is very inexpensive and easy to dose (either in semi-hard treat form or liquid form), and it does boost the immune system a bit. Your holistic vet might be able to tell you more about DMG and interferon. Best wishes for Kitty, Lance On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Avaykn wrote: > Hi Beth, > Thank you so much, she gets : > lysine 500mg a day > a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, > Missing link amino supplement > Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms > Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. > She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa > Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. > > Thanks, > > Mally > > Sent from my iPhone. > >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth wrote: >> >> It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV >> kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that >> with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life of me >> remember what it was. >> >> Beth >> >> Avaykn wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on >>> her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin >>> E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a >>> holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken >>> when faced with this situation. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mally and Kitty >>> Sent from my iPhone. >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Los Angeles - Good vet for very sick FIV+ kitty needed!!!
I am in Tampa and a friend who adopted a very special FIV+ kitty from us 2 years ago is afraid she is losing him, tests are showing nothing and she is having a terrible time with the vets. Can anyone recommend a good vet for a very sick FIV+ kitty in the Los Angeles area? His main symptom is just extreme weight loss and constant vomiting. B/w, xray and ultrasounds have been unremarkable--I have warned her about HL and the need to force feed. Thank you for any suggestions!! Heather ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Los Angeles - Good vet for very sick FIV+ kitty needed!!!
I live in Los Angeles and can suggest two vets: Overland Vet Clinic 310.559.2424. They are in the Palms/Culver City area. Veterinary Care Center 323.919.. Hollywood area. My cats go to Overland and all of their vets are very helpful and kind. They helped us with Polli, our FeLV+ kitty. All the rescues I work with take their cats to VCC. They have a *very*knowledgeable staff and will work relentlessly to help any animal that comes through their doors. Hope this helps and her kitty pulls through! -Amanda On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Heather wrote: > I am in Tampa and a friend who adopted a very special FIV+ kitty from us 2 > years ago is afraid she is losing him, tests are showing nothing and she is > having a terrible time with the vets. Can anyone recommend a good vet for > a very sick FIV+ kitty in the Los Angeles area? > > His main symptom is just extreme weight loss and constant vomiting. B/w, > xray and ultrasounds have been unremarkable--I have warned her about HL and > the need to force feed. > > Thank you for any suggestions!! > > Heather > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
You can get DMG without a prescription at Amazon, and I imagine many other places. That's where I get it. Chris C. -Original Message- From: Lance Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness Just saw your post here and on the Yahoo! list, but thought that it’d be better if I replied here. Before we knew my FeLV+ cat was FeLV+, her then-vet said that her gums were becoming irritated, and that I needed to switch her to Prescription Diet t/d. I did, and the irritation seemed to go away. She hasn't had any stomatitis or gingivitis issues since then *that I know of*. I don’t know that this is the best solution to Kitty’s issue, but it might be something you could look into as a supplemental option, if she’s good about eating dry food and you think she’s not to the point where it hurts to eat. I don’t give Ember t/d as free-fed dry food any more, but instead give it to her as a treat (four or five pieces in the morning and again at night). Prescription Diet is not the best food, but the texture/composition of this particular formula seem to help with teeth and gum problems. I think it would be good to consider giving Kitty interferon alpha and/or DMG. The latter is very inexpensive and easy to dose (either in semi-hard treat form or liquid form), and it does boost the immune system a bit. Your holistic vet might be able to tell you more about DMG and interferon. Best wishes for Kitty, Lance On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Avaykn wrote: Hi Beth, Thank you so much, she gets : lysine 500mg a day a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, Missing link amino supplement Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth wrote: It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that with something else once & it worked great, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Beth Avaykn wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken when faced with this situation. Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Los Angeles - Good vet for very sick FIV+ kitty needed!!!
loosing weight and vomiting - could this be thyroid problem? has the vet checked for this. Went thru this with Shallimar and Tiger who were borther and sister when they wer around 13. Heather wrote: > I am in Tampa and a friend who adopted a very special FIV+ kitty from us 2 > years ago is afraid she is losing him, tests are showing nothing and she is > having a terrible time with the vets. Can anyone recommend a good vet for > a very sick FIV+ kitty in the Los Angeles area? > > His main symptom is just extreme weight loss and constant vomiting. B/w, > xray and ultrasounds have been unremarkable--I have warned her about HL and > the need to force feed. > > Thank you for any suggestions!! > > Heather ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
