date:20050830

He may not know--tell him about the problems.
- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Paz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:22 AM
Subject: catatonya


>
>
> I'm hoping it will go well tomorrow also.  If only I could get a little
food
> into him.  I can't believe this has all went down when my Vet is away.  He
> will be back in 7 days and at the moment it feels like a life time.  He is
> such a wonderful man, how he can work with an associate who is such a
fruit
> cake I will never know.
>
> I feel that he is worst off today because of the mess she created in his
> little neck, with all the poking, boy would I like to take some blood from
> her with a nice blunt needle.
>
> Thank You for your prayers,  at this point he needs them.  I will let you
> know what happens tomorrow night, our appointment is at 6:00pm
>
> Lisa.
>
>
>
>
>
> I hope Kitty's pred. is kicking in and the visit goes well with the
> optho. tomorrow. I HATE it when my vet's not available.  My vet can always
> draw blood without the cat or myself ever even noticing she's doing it!
> That's why I love her even when she pisses me off about other stuff.  It
> totally pisses me off when a vet or tech screws up a draw on a sick cat
> especially. You and Kitty are in my thoughts and prayers.
> tonyamaimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>  style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid">See
> if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it
> aroundwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also
might
> trycatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both
> withfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.- Original
> Message - From: "Nina" To: Sent: Tuesday, August
> 30, 2005 5:55 PMSubject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help>
Hi
> Lisa,> I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you
love
> your> Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is
> wonderful> that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds
to
> help him> maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes
> without eating> anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if
you
> get something> down him, he'll probably
> be okay. I know the sound of "syringe> feeding" can be
> intimidating. Don't think of it as "force" feeding,>
think
> of it as "assisted" feeding. Like you would a baby. There is
> a> group for help with this, here's the link:>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/>>
Poor
> thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like>
that.
> Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to want> to
do
> is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music and>
> keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let
> him,> (after you get his meds and some food in him of course).
Speak
> softly> to him and tell him how the two of you will see this
through
> together.> Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one
> scares him, or> puts him through any more trauma than absolutely
> necessary. (I'd like> to punch your substitute vet in the neck
> btw).>> Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know
> how you guys aredoing,> Nina>>> Elizabeth
> Paz wrote:>> >> > Hi everyone,>
> >> > Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my
> kitty?> >> > He has had FELV since 03. He was a very
> sick kitty and we were a> > breath away from having to put him
to
> sleep. We wanted to try and> > give him a chance, even though
our
> Vet and the Ophthalmologist that> > was treating kitty's eyes
were
> against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg a> > day for about 6
months,
> he began looking and acting healthier. then> > his meds were
> changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half> > a
pill
> every other day.> >> > August of 04 he was taken off
of
> all meds, and became a healthy chubby> > cat. ( 16 lbs) He has
> been wonderful till Friday of
> last week. Then> > over this weekend his eyes clouded over
> (Uveitis returned) and he is> > not eating a thing. I have tried
> everything, even his favorite snack,> > and no way.>
> >> > We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what,
the
> Dr. who has> > worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The
one
> that we saw was a> > bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw
blood
> and had such a problem,> > it took three tries with kitty
crying,
> can't even tell you what I was> > going to do to her if hubby
had
> not stepped in. I spoke to her about> > the prednisone. She said
> she did not want to put him back on the> > prednisone at this
time
> and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made> > it quite clear
to
> us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we saw> > that he
was
> sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was like> >
talking
> to the wall. She
> gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him> > and that was
> it.> >> > Today I called and got one of the other vets
> who pulled Kitty's chart> > and gave me a prescription

Re: Hi Maimaipg

The Rescue Remedy drops in his water would help.  I've never used the spray.
My cats hate anything with much odoreven litter.  My mother is extremely
allergic to anything with added "scents" so  I avoid them like the plague.
- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Paz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: Hi Maimaipg


> I have Rescue Remedy, I just bought it the other day, would this work?  I
> was thinking of spraying his carry case with it tomorrow, but it has quite
a
> floral odour I wondered if it would annoy him.
>
>
> See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it
around
> where he is and on yourself.  It will help calm him.  You also might try
> catnip (organic or a plant if you can find it).  I have used both with
> frightened, angry, upset cats successfully.
> - Original Message -
>
>
>
>

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle



And sour cream off your finger. Simon loved that for a while even when he would not eat other things. 
Michelle

catatonya




I'm hoping it will go well tomorrow also.  If only I could get a little food 
into him.  I can't believe this has all went down when my Vet is away.  He 
will be back in 7 days and at the moment it feels like a life time.  He is 
such a wonderful man, how he can work with an associate who is such a fruit 
cake I will never know.


I feel that he is worst off today because of the mess she created in his 
little neck, with all the poking, boy would I like to take some blood from 
her with a nice blunt needle.


Thank You for your prayers,  at this point he needs them.  I will let you 
know what happens tomorrow night, our appointment is at 6:00pm


Lisa.





I hope Kitty's pred. is kicking in and the visit goes well with the 
optho. tomorrow. I HATE it when my vet's not available.  My vet can always 
draw blood without the cat or myself ever even noticing she's doing it!  
That's why I love her even when she pisses me off about other stuff.  It 
totally pisses me off when a vet or tech screws up a draw on a sick cat 
especially. You and Kitty are in my thoughts and prayers.
tonyamaimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid">See 
if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it 
aroundwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might 
trycatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both 
withfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.- Original 
Message - From: "Nina" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 
30, 2005 5:55 PMSubject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help> Hi 
Lisa,> I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love 
your> Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is 
wonderful> that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to 
help him> maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes 
without eating> anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if you 
get something> down him, he'll probably
be okay. I know the sound of "syringe> feeding" can be 
intimidating. Don't think of it as "force" feeding,> think 
of it as "assisted" feeding. Like you would a baby. There is 
a> group for help with this, here's the link:> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/>> Poor 
thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like> that. 
Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to want> to do 
is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music and> 
keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let 
him,> (after you get his meds and some food in him of course). Speak 
softly> to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through 
together.> Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one 
scares him, or> puts him through any more trauma than absolutely 
necessary. (I'd like> to punch your substitute vet in the neck
btw).>> Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know 
how you guys aredoing,> Nina>>> Elizabeth 
Paz wrote:>> >> > Hi everyone,> 
>> > Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my 
kitty?> >> > He has had FELV since 03. He was a very 
sick kitty and we were a> > breath away from having to put him to 
sleep. We wanted to try and> > give him a chance, even though our 
Vet and the Ophthalmologist that> > was treating kitty's eyes were 
against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg a> > day for about 6 months, 
he began looking and acting healthier. then> > his meds were 
changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half> > a pill 
every other day.> >> > August of 04 he was taken off of 
all meds, and became a healthy chubby> > cat. ( 16 lbs) He has 
been wonderful till Friday of
last week. Then> > over this weekend his eyes clouded over 
(Uveitis returned) and he is> > not eating a thing. I have tried 
everything, even his favorite snack,> > and no way.> 
>> > We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the 
Dr. who has> > worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one 
that we saw was a> > bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood 
and had such a problem,> > it took three tries with kitty crying, 
can't even tell you what I was> > going to do to her if hubby had 
not stepped in. I spoke to her about> > the prednisone. She said 
she did not want to put him back on the> > prednisone at this time 
and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made> > it quite clear to 
us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we saw> > that he was 
sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was like> > talking 
to the wall. She
gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him> > and that was 
it.> >> > Today I called and got one of the other vets 
who pulled Kitty's chart> > and gave me a prescription for the 
prednisone. I will be starting it> > later. Tomorrow we will be 
taking him to his Ophthalmologist and> > hopefully she will be 
able to get his eyes back under control. Please> > God.> 
>> > I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, 
and is so> > frighten

RE: Leuk Positive Cat

2005-08-30 Thread Amy Wilkins

I thought the same thing.  She really doesn't seem
open to this idea though.  She feels that she has a
full house and just can't bring another one in,
especially one with leukemia :(

--- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Any chance she could keep this little guy with her
> others if they are
> vaccinated.  Sounds like vet is ready to euthanize &
> may not be too
> knowledgeable  Maybe she wants to read some of
> the posts here about
> folks' experiences with mixed households  It
> sure sounds like she has
> fallen in love with him!
> 
> Chris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Amy Wilkins
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Leuk Positive Cat 
> 
> Yet again, somebody has contacted me about helping
> out
> a leukemia positive kitty.  Sorry to always be
> dropping these on you guys but I just got married
> and
> then came home and adopted 2 more cats (1 FIV+ and 1
> FeLV+) the next day.  I'm out of room and I wanted
> to
> write and see if anybody can take this cat.  I'll
> set
> up transport if anybody has room for him. 
> 
> Here is a copy of the e-mail I got about him.  I
> also
> have pictures of him that I will send to anybody
> that
> is interested.  I need to find somebody within a
> couple days or she will be euthanizing him.  He is
> in
> Rochester, NY but I'm willing to set up transport up
> to 8-10 hours away. 
> 
> (copy of e-mail) 
> 
> Dear Amy: 
> 
> Per Judy Newman's (Habitat for Cats?) request, I am
> writing you to ask for your help, if you are able to
> at all.  You have no idea how much I appreciate the
> work you do for animals.  You are an angel.  Judy
> asked me to give you as much information about this
> cat as I could. 
> 
> I have been feeding feral/homeless cats for over 3
> years now, every single morning at 5:30 am. (before
> the owners get there, as they are not the nicest
> people when it comes to compassion for these
> animals),
> through rain and snow, behind Lorraine's Restaurant
> on
> Culver and East Main.  I have seen quite a few
> different animals, but the one I am now speaking of
> just came about last Tuesday.  After putting the
> food
> and water out, this cute cat let me come close to
> it,
> then actually allowed me to scratch his head.  As I
> started to get up, he sidled up to my leg and
> started
> to follow me back to my car.  The next morning, I
> did
> not see him, but on Thursday, with cage in the back
> seat and a towel to grab it with, he allowed me to
> pick it up and I brought it home to my back bedroom,
> where, although a bit frightened, he let me pet him
> and he gobbled up food. 
> 
> His demeanor is sweet.  At first, I thought it
> couldn't be homeless due to its sweet way, but the
> greasy coat, and matted fur, and malnourished body
> that the veterinarian told me told me this morning
> it
> had, convinced me otherwise.   At home I took a
> washcloth and tried to bathe it the best I could. 
> He
> even has started to play with strings. 
> 
> I had made an appointment for it on Monday, today,
> the
> 22nd of August for its shots and neutering.  I have
> six other cats whom I have rescued over the years. 
> I
> was planning on trying to find a home for this one
> because as you know, its hard on the other cats in
> the
> house - especially when they are all so territorial
> already!  I brought the homeless kitty in this
> morning
> and the vet immediately called me to say they had it
> tested and it has feline leukemia.  Which broke  my
> heart.  I called Humane Society as I have heard of
> sanctuaries for these cats. They referred me to Judy
> Newman. 
> 
> The reason this breaks my heart the most, is that
> this
> cat is less than a year old, has very beautiful
> green,
> loving eyes, purrs for me, plays with me, loves to
> be
> held and rub his nose against your face.  He is also
> litter trained.  He is like a black/brown striped
> medium to long haired beauty.  I love him already so
> much, but know I can't keep him with the other cats
> in
> the house. 
> 
> The vet did the neutering procedure this morning,
> and
> gave him his rabies and distemper shot.  They also
> cleaned his mats out of fur.  I had him scheduled
> for
> 4 pm. to be put to sleep, but then received the call
> from Judy an hour ago saying there may be hope, with
> you.  And I know that is a slight chance, but Amy,
> you
> have no idea how much you have helped already,
> knowing
> someone out there cares about something that they
> haven't even seen.  If you had by now, you would be
> in
> love.  He is just the sweetest.  I called the vet
> and
> asked them to give him the name "Homey" for now, so
> that he at least will have had a name in his short
> life.  I just called the vet and told them I would
> be
> picking up the cat today at 4pm, at least for a few
> days, and am going to take him home and give him
> some
> great meals and

Hideyo



Thank you for your kind words, I will keep trying.  It just that he 
struggles so much that I worry about getting him all stressed out.  He does 
put up one heck of a struggle.  His head is so strong and it moves so 
quickly.


But I will keep trying.  He was so ill  in 03 that we did not think he would 
make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and chubby. but this 
is so different with the food.  I can easily give him his pills, but this 
food stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up.


Thank You for support.
Lisa




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From:  "Hideyo Yamamoto" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:  
Subject:  RE: Won't 
EatPlease HelpDate:  Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06 
-0600>Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive, Ginger 
stopped>eating for over a week a several months 
ago.>>She is already a very small girl, and did not want her 
to lose any more>weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted her to eat 
with syringe every>day with baby food and liver shake 
->>I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back very 
soon - so stay>calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and talk to 
him gently and>tell him how much he means to you and how he is going 
to get better very>very soon..>>Love and hugs to you 
and your kitty..>>Hideyo>>-Original 
Message->From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Nina>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55 PM>To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease 
Help>>Hi Lisa,>I can hear the panic in your voice and 
how very much you love your>Kitty.  You are right, you need to get 
him to eat.   It is wonderful>that he has been so healthy and has a 
few extra pounds to help him>maintain right now.  He is in danger of 
HL if he goes without eating>anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  
That means if you get something>down him, he'll probably be okay.   I 
know the sound of "syringe>feeding" can be intimidating.  
Don't think of it as "force" feeding,>think of it as 
"assisted" feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is 
a>group for help with this, here's the 
link:>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/>>Poor 
thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like>that.  
Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want>to do 
is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music 
and>>keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go 
ahead and let him,>(after you get his meds and some food in him of 
course).  Speak softly>to him and tell him how the two of you will 
see this through together.>Tell him you will do your very best to 
make sure no one scares him, or>puts him through any more trauma than 
absolutely necessary.  (I'd like>to punch your substitute vet in the 
neck btw).>>Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us 
know how you guys 
are>doing,>Nina>>>Elizabeth Paz 
wrote:>> >> > Hi everyone,> >> 
> Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?> 
>> > He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we 
were a> > breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted 
to try and> > give him a chance, even though our Vet and the 
Ophthalmologist that> > was treating kitty's eyes were against it. 
 He was on Prednisone 5mg a>> > day for about 6 months, he 
began looking and acting healthier. then> > his meds were changed 
to half a pill each day, and then finally a half>> > a pill 
every other day.> >> > August of 04 he was taken off of 
all meds, and became a healthy chubby>> > cat. ( 16 lbs) He 
has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then> > over this 
weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is> > not 
eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite 
snack,>> > and no way.> >> > We went to 
the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has>> 
> worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was 
a>> > bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had 
such a problem,> > it took three tries with kitty crying, can't 
even tell you what I was> > going to do to her if hubby had not 
stepped in. I spoke to her about> > the prednisone.   She said she 
did not want to put him back on the> > prednisone at this time and 
on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made>> > it quite 
clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we 
saw>> > that he was sliding to get him back on the 
Prednisone.  It was like> > talking to the wall.  She gave me an 
anti-biotic for ten days for him> > and that was it.> 
>> > Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled 
Kitty's chart> > and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I 
will be starting it> > later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to 
his Ophthalmologist and> > hopefully she will be able to get his 
eyes back under control.  Please>> > God.> 
>> > I am quite sure at this time he is only s

Re: Hi Belinda......



Well this was my second time trying, we warmed up the food and I decide to 
use my finger, It was so awful, we spoke our usual baby talk and I also 
warmed up the food a little, you would think we were trying to poison him,  
he reacted so badly.  His stress level must be going through the roof by 
now.  Hubby tried also only this time I held  him, but as soon as he tried 
to open his mouth a little he started to gag.  Oh I wish he could understand 
that we are trying to help him.


This is just breaking my heart.
Lisa.








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From:  Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:  Re: Hi 
Belinda..Date:  Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:15 -0700>   
  Syringe feeding can be stressful, Buddie my cat hated it, I >ended 
up getting her a feeding tube and she did great with that.  >The main 
thing with syringe feeding is get relaxed and calm, talk to >your 
kitty and explain you are trying to help get him feeling >better, 
that witout food he will feel worse and worse.  The pick a >place 
that is comfortable and use it all the time, that way kitty >will 
know that is what is going to happen when you pick him up and >go 
there.>>If possible a try the couch and try sitting so that 
kitty is >positioned with his back end backed into the corner of the 
arm, you >on one side kitty in the middle and the couch arm on the 
other side. >  Then pet and calmly talk to him and let him know what 
you are >going to do, and then calmly put the syringe in the side of 
his >mouth and give a small amount of food, wait a half minute or so 
and >give more.  If syringing is really stressful, putting the food 
on >your finger and offering that way is fine, it may take alittle 
>longer but if it works go with that.  Or I know someone that put the 
>food on a spoon and actually spoon fed their 
cat.>>Before Buddie got sick enough for the tube she had quite 
eating one >other time and I would put some food in a bowl and would 
hold the >bowl in front of her, I told her if she didn't eat on her 
own I >would have to syringe feed her, she would take a few bites and 
I >would offer her food every 15 minutes, it took me almost 3 weeks 
to >get her eating normal again.  Later when se got very sick with a 
>sepsis infection I had to get the tube, it saved her life and she 
>really loved getting fed that way, she would run to the couch and 
>wait for me when she heard me getting her tube syringes ready.  She 
>purred through the whole feeding then promply plopped over and took 
>a nap, she wasn't happy when I was weaning her off the 
tube.>>The main thing is stay calm and you may try warming the 
food up, >some kitties can smell it better when it is warmed and will 
eat it >then.  Prayers that things will go much better next time you 
try.>>-->Belinda>Happiness is being owned by 
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Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread felv

That is correct, you do NOT want to give them the leukemia vaccine. It is a 
pointless
injection, and increases their chance of developing a vaccine associated 
injection
site sarcoma. Personally, I don't give FELV vaccines to ANY of my cats, period. 
I
follow the new guidelines that say that every 3 years is often enough for most
booster vaccines, and only do rabies every 3 years. I do not do any other 
booster
vaccines for my adult cats, I have one that has vaccine reactions, and so it's 
not
worth the trade off for me. I would do the kitten series if I had any kittens,
though. FVRCP (3 in 1 for Feline Viral Rhinotracheitis, Calicivirus, 
Panleukopenia)
at 8 weeks, 12-14 weeks, and 1 year, plus rabies at 1 year, then at 4 years 
old, 7
years old, etc.

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/CCAH/Prog-ID/ID-Facts_Vax-home.htm is a good 
resource
for standard schedules, but I think it's a little over-kill to do so many 
boosters in
kittens, I think 8 weeks, and one within the next two months after that is 
enough,
plus when they are a year old.

Mind you, that's MY policy, it doesn't mean it's the right vaccination schedule 
for
YOUR cats.

Can I ask you this...

When your vet gave your kittens their vaccines, where did he inject them? It's 
VERY
important to only give vaccines on the leg, as low as possible. NEVER give any
vaccines in the scruff, or loose skin on the body.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
"Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a 
world of
difference for that one animal."
~~~
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until she
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Re: Hi Belinda......

Syringe feeding can be stressful, Buddie my cat hated it, I ended 
up getting her a feeding tube and she did great with that.  The main 
thing with syringe feeding is get relaxed and calm, talk to your kitty 
and explain you are trying to help get him feeling better, that witout 
food he will feel worse and worse.  The pick a place that is comfortable 
and use it all the time, that way kitty will know that is what is going 
to happen when you pick him up and go there.


If possible a try the couch and try sitting so that kitty is positioned 
with his back end backed into the corner of the arm, you on one side 
kitty in the middle and the couch arm on the other side.  Then pet and 
calmly talk to him and let him know what you are going to do, and then 
calmly put the syringe in the side of his mouth and give a small amount 
of food, wait a half minute or so and give more.  If syringing is really 
stressful, putting the food on your finger and offering that way is 
fine, it may take alittle longer but if it works go with that.  Or I 
know someone that put the food on a spoon and actually spoon fed their cat.


Before Buddie got sick enough for the tube she had quite eating one 
other time and I would put some food in a bowl and would hold the bowl 
in front of her, I told her if she didn't eat on her own I would have to 
syringe feed her, she would take a few bites and I would offer her food 
every 15 minutes, it took me almost 3 weeks to get her eating normal 
again.  Later when se got very sick with a sepsis infection I had to get 
the tube, it saved her life and she really loved getting fed that way, 
she would run to the couch and wait for me when she heard me getting her 
tube syringes ready.  She purred through the whole feeding then promply 
plopped over and took a nap, she wasn't happy when I was weaning her off 
the tube.


The main thing is stay calm and you may try warming the food up, some 
kitties can smell it better when it is warmed and will eat it then.  
Prayers that things will go much better next time you try.


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Re: Hi Maimaipg

2005-08-30 Thread Barb Moermond

Elizabeth,
put a drop or two on his ears/temples - it will absorb transdermally.  it doesn't work with all animals, but if it does work, it's lovely.  It worked like a charm on Ninja and I could dump an entire bottle down Bandit's throat and nada.  and you can try that tonight to see if it helpsElizabeth Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have Rescue Remedy, I just bought it the other day, would this work? I was thinking of spraying his carry case with it tomorrow, but it has quite a floral odour I wondered if it would annoy him.See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it aroundwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might trycatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both withfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.- Original Message -Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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Hi Belinda......




Thank you Belinda, I will keep trying, made such a mess out of it with the 
syring tonight.  Put it in the side of his mouth then accidenally applied to 
much pressure and he choked, it was awful I am giving him so mush stress, 
it's  so heartbreaking.




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From:  Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:  Re: Won't EatPlease 
HelpDate:  Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:11:16 -0700>   keep 
putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his >desire to 
eat back once he gets some food into him and starts >feeling better.  
you are right overweight kitties are more >suseptable to getting HL 
and a lot faster than a normal weight cat >might.  Getting food into 
him right away is a priority.  If you have >to syringe feed. give 
small amounts in the side of the mouth, give >him a minute to swallow 
then give more.  You can try offereing food >after he has had a bit, 
it may kick start his desire to 
eat.>>-->Belinda>Happiness is being owned by 
cats ...>>Be-Mi-Kitties 
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Hi Maimaipg

I have Rescue Remedy, I just bought it the other day, would this work?  I 
was thinking of spraying his carry case with it tomorrow, but it has quite a 
floral odour I wondered if it would annoy him.



See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it around
where he is and on yourself.  It will help calm him.  You also might try
catnip (organic or a plant if you can find it).  I have used both with
frightened, angry, upset cats successfully.
- Original Message -

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

Sorry to keep doing this piece meal but another idea is to find Just Born
(or a mother's milk substitute) which has worked for some of mine or whipped
cream which worked for one.  The Just Born is full of everything he needs
and reminds him of the safety of his mother.   I've had this problem several
times.  Ideas only.  Maybe one will work for you.
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help


>keep putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his desire
> to eat back once he gets some food into him and starts feeling better.
> you are right overweight kitties are more suseptable to getting HL and a
> lot faster than a normal weight cat might.  Getting food into him right
> away is a priority.  If you have to syringe feed. give small amounts in
> the side of the mouth, give him a minute to swallow then give more.  You
> can try offereing food after he has had a bit, it may kick start his
> desire to eat.
>
> -- 
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Hi Nina...



Thank you for getting in touch with me so soon.   You are right I have such 
a feeling of panic mixed with such heartbreak.  Don't seem to be able to 
stop filling up with tears.  I have had many cats in my time and loved 
everyone of them, but this little boy (he is now 5yrs old)  came into my 
life unexpectedly at 7 months old.  None of my cats have been as loving and 
as needy as this one.  I should have changed his name to Velcro.  Where I go 
he is always right beside me, and the love he gives me is so noticeable to 
all who visit.  I have so much love for him, he truly gives me such joy.



"assisted" feeding. Like you would a baby. <<<


Love this way to think of it, will start it tonight.  Thank You for the 
link.


Well Nina, I have just tried to feed him Syring and all.  I got some 
strained baby food (chicken) and filled up the syringe, oh my goodness I 
bungled it up so bad.


I checked out all the pictures in the link you sent me, I went in at the 
side of the mouth, he was struggling so bad, my hubby held him in kind of a 
baby position with his little head inside hubby's elbow, I was trying to 
hold his head, got a few drops in then don't ask me what happened I 
accidentley pushed down on the syring  and it all shot into his mouth.


He choked and my hubby put him down the he ran into the room.   Talk about 
trying to keep stress level down with a FELV baby,  I think I have given him 
more stress today than he has had in the past year.


I'm such an emotioal wreck at the moment.

Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or 
puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary<<


MaMa is the one putting him through the trauma and it's hurting so bad.

I will let you know what the Ophthalmologist has to say tomorrow night.

Thank you Nina for being so kind.

Lisa.

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

  keep putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his desire 
to eat back once he gets some food into him and starts feeling better.  
you are right overweight kitties are more suseptable to getting HL and a 
lot faster than a normal weight cat might.  Getting food into him right 
away is a priority.  If you have to syringe feed. give small amounts in 
the side of the mouth, give him a minute to swallow then give more.  You 
can try offereing food after he has had a bit, it may kick start his 
desire to eat.


--
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Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread catatonya

Lisa,
 
I hope Kitty's pred. is kicking in and the visit goes well with the optho. tomorrow. I HATE it when my vet's not available.  My vet can always draw blood without the cat or myself ever even noticing she's doing it!  That's why I love her even when she pisses me off about other stuff.  It totally pisses me off when a vet or tech screws up a draw on a sick cat especially. You and Kitty are in my thoughts and prayers.
tonyamaimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it aroundwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might trycatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both withfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.- Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 PMSubject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help> Hi Lisa,> I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your> Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is wonderful> that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him> maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating> anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if you get something> down him, he'll probably
 be okay. I know the sound of "syringe> feeding" can be intimidating. Don't think of it as "force" feeding,> think of it as "assisted" feeding. Like you would a baby. There is a> group for help with this, here's the link:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/>> Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like> that. Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to want> to do is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music and> keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him,> (after you get his meds and some food in him of course). Speak softly> to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.> Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or> puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary. (I'd like> to punch your substitute vet in the neck
 btw).>> Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys aredoing,> Nina>>> Elizabeth Paz wrote:>> >> > Hi everyone,> >> > Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?> >> > He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a> > breath away from having to put him to sleep. We wanted to try and> > give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that> > was treating kitty's eyes were against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg a> > day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then> > his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half> > a pill every other day.> >> > August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby> > cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of
 last week. Then> > over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he is> > not eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,> > and no way.> >> > We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has> > worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw was a> > bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,> > it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was> > going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about> > the prednisone. She said she did not want to put him back on the> > prednisone at this time and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made> > it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we saw> > that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was like> > talking to the wall. She
 gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him> > and that was it.> >> > Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart> > and gave me a prescription for the prednisone. I will be starting it> > later. Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and> > hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control. Please> > God.> >> > I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so> > frightened from every noise. I can't get him to eat. I know how> > important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get...> > Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..> >> > A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force> > his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue. He did> > swallow it, and is now sleeping.>
 >> > Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.> >> > Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5> > days.> >> > Thank you for taking the time to read it.> >> > Lisa.> >> >> >> >>

RE: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive, Ginger stopped
eating for over a week a several months ago.  

She is already a very small girl, and did not want her to lose any more
weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted her to eat with syringe every
day with baby food and liver shake - 

I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back very soon - so stay
calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and talk to him gently and
tell him how much he means to you and how he is going to get better very
very soon..

Love and hugs to you and your kitty..

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help

Hi Lisa,
I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your 
Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful 
that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him 
maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating 
anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something 
down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of "syringe 
feeding" can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as "force" feeding, 
think of it as "assisted" feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a 
group for help with this, here's the link: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like 
that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want 
to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and

keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him, 
(after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly 
to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.  
Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or 
puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like 
to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).

Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are
doing,
Nina

Elizabeth Paz wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
>
> He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
> breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and 
> give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that 
> was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a

> day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then 
> his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half

> a pill every other day.
>
> August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby

> cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
> over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is 
> not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,

> and no way.
>
> We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has

> worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a

> bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, 
> it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was 
> going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about 
> the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the 
> prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made

> it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw

> that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like 
> talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him 
> and that was it.
>
> Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart 
> and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
> later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and 
> hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please

> God.
>
> I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
> frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how 
> important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... 
> Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..
>
> A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
> his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
> swallow it, and is now sleeping.
>
> Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
>
> Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5

> days.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read it.
>
> Lisa.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

WooHoo I finally got a messageI will give my two cents on a subject I am assuming is still open...I use cooked hamburger, or 95% raw hamburger...also you can try yogart, plain
 
I am excited to be backyeah
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have found that mine like Gerbers better than Beechnut, probably because it is junkier!
MichelleHave a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it around
where he is and on yourself.  It will help calm him.  You also might try
catnip (organic or a plant if you can find it).  I have used both with
frightened, angry, upset cats successfully.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Help


> Hi Lisa,
> I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your
> Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful
> that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him
> maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating
> anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something
> down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of "syringe
> feeding" can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as "force" feeding,
> think of it as "assisted" feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a
> group for help with this, here's the link:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
>
> Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like
> that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want
> to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and
> keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him,
> (after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly
> to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.
> Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or
> puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like
> to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).
>
> Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are
doing,
> Nina
>
>
> Elizabeth Paz wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
> >
> > He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a
> > breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and
> > give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that
> > was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a
> > day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then
> > his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half
> > a pill every other day.
> >
> > August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby
> > cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then
> > over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is
> > not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,
> > and no way.
> >
> > We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has
> > worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a
> > bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,
> > it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was
> > going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about
> > the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the
> > prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made
> > it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw
> > that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like
> > talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him
> > and that was it.
> >
> > Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart
> > and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it
> > later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and
> > hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please
> > God.
> >
> > I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so
> > frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how
> > important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get...
> > Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..
> >
> > A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force
> > his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did
> > swallow it, and is now sleeping.
> >
> > Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
> >
> > Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5
> > days.
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to read it.
> >
> > Lisa.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Nina


Hi Lisa,
I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love your 
Kitty.  You are right, you need to get him to eat.   It is wonderful 
that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help him 
maintain right now.  He is in danger of HL if he goes without eating 
anything in a 24 to 48 hour period.  That means if you get something 
down him, he'll probably be okay.   I know the sound of "syringe 
feeding" can be intimidating.  Don't think of it as "force" feeding, 
think of it as "assisted" feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is a 
group for help with this, here's the link: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/


Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble like 
that.  Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to want 
to do is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music and 
keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him, 
(after you get his meds and some food in him of course).  Speak softly 
to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.  
Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or 
puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary.  (I'd like 
to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).


Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys are doing,
Nina


Elizabeth Paz wrote:



Hi everyone,

Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and 
give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that 
was treating kitty's eyes were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a 
day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then 
his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half 
a pill every other day.


August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby 
cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is 
not eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, 
and no way.


We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has 
worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a 
bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, 
it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was 
going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about 
the prednisone.   She said she did not want to put him back on the 
prednisone at this time and on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made 
it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we saw 
that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone.  It was like 
talking to the wall.  She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him 
and that was it.


Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart 
and gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
later.  Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and 
hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please 
God.


I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
frightened from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how 
important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... 
Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system..


A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
swallow it, and is now sleeping.


Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5 
days.


Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Lisa.

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle



Also try the liver shake, posted recently. Cirpiheptidine, also called something else I can not remember, is an appetite stimulant that works very well with some cats.  And if he really is not eating, I would syringe feed him some to get food into him. It often jump starts their appetite too, especially if you syringe them something very palatable.
I would definitely put him back on the pred, no question. I assume that you also know about prednisolone eye drops, which are basically topical pred for the eyes.
 
Michelle

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread Lernermichelle



I have found that mine like Gerbers better than Beechnut, probably because it is junkier!
Michelle

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

2005-08-30 Thread jenmeyer

Hi Lisa!

Have you tried giving him a little l-lysine?  If he's having a problem
smelling his food (one reason that he may not want to eat), then lysine
might help clear up anything sinus-wise (and maybe even eye-wise) so
that he can smell his food again!

That said, you may want to try anything smelly...tuna, salmon, etc...if
all else fails, and he doesn't object too much, you can always try
syringe feeding him...you can pick up a large syringe at most pet stores
(Petsmart, Petco)...the easiest thing to syringe, canned food-wise, is
Hill's A/D (which can only be found at a vet's office)...or, chicken or
turkey baby food is always a good one...just make sure it doesn't have
any onion in the ingredients...Beechnut, apparently, makes a pure
chicken baby food...but I don't have that available around here, so I
use Gerber...I believe the label says "Chicken with chicken gravy"  ie.
there is corn starch added...

Good luck and keep us updated!  I hope he can find a little relief soon!

Jen


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- Original Message -
From: Elizabeth Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:17 pm
Subject: Won't EatPlease Help

> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
> 
> He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a 
> breath away 
> from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a 
> chance, 
> even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating 
> kitty's eyes 
> were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 
> months, he 
> began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to 
> half a 
> pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.
> 
> August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy 
> chubby cat. 
> ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then 
> over this 
> weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not 
> eating a 
> thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.
> 
> We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who 
> has 
> worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw 
> was a bit 
> of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it 
> took 
> three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going 
> to do to 
> her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the 
> prednisone.   She 
> said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this 
> time and on 
> and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it 
> was down 
> on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him 
> back on 
> the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an 
> anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.
> 
> Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's 
> chart and 
> gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it 
> later.  
> Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully 
> she will 
> be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.
> 
> I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so 
> frightened 
> from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important 
> this is on 
> a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and 
> it may 
> be fatal with his immune system..
> 
> A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force 
> his 
> little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did 
> swallow 
> it, and is now sleeping.
> 
> Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
> 
> Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and 
> heartbreaking 5 days.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to read it.
> 
> Lisa.
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Won't Eat....Please Help

Valium was prescribed by my vet for Ebony when he was in the process of
leaving this world.  It helped a lot.  High protein foods appealed to him
the most--salmon, eggs, chicken and turkey.  In very small pieces of course
and small amounts at a time so as not to overwhelm him.  Try Willard Water
to keep him hydrated.

Good luck.
- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Paz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Won't EatPlease Help


>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?
>
> He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a breath
away
> from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a chance,
> even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating kitty's eyes
> were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 months, he
> began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to half a
> pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.
>
> August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby
cat.
> ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then over this
> weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not eating a
> thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.
>
> We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has
> worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a bit
> of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it took
> three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going to do
to
> her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone.
She
> said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this time and
on
> and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it was down
> on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him back on
> the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an
> anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.
>
> Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart and
> gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it later.
> Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully she
will
> be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.
>
> I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so
frightened
> from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important this is
on
> a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and it may
> be fatal with his immune system..
>
> A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force his
> little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did swallow
> it, and is now sleeping.
>
> Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.
>
> Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5
days.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read it.
>
> Lisa.
>
>
>
>

Won't Eat....Please Help



Hi everyone,

Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?

He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a breath away 
from having to put him to sleep.  We wanted to try and give him a chance, 
even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating kitty's eyes 
were against it.  He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 months, he 
began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to half a 
pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day.


August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby cat. 
( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then over this 
weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is not eating a 
thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way.


We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has 
worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw was a bit 
of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it took 
three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going to do to 
her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone.   She 
said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this time and on 
and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it was down 
on his chart also )  that if we saw that he was sliding to get him back on 
the Prednisone.  It was like talking to the wall.  She gave me an 
anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it.


Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart and 
gave me a prescription for the prednisone.  I will be starting it later.  
Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully she will 
be able to get his eyes back under control.  Please God.


I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so frightened 
from every noise.  I can't get him to eat.  I know how important this is on 
a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and it may 
be fatal with his immune system..


A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force his 
little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue.  He did swallow 
it, and is now sleeping.


Would anyone know of any other way of doing it.

Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5 days.

Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Lisa.

RE: anyone know anything about these shelters

2005-08-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Title: Message

That's
good advice, Tamara, tho I'm very sorry for the reason it has to be given.
Kerry

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3:53 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: anyone
know anything about these shelters
Kerry,
No unfortunately I can't help you with these, but- please don't recommend
any shelter without first visiting it yourself. I placed a felv+ cat at a
shelter that came highly recommended by many in the rescue field...when I got
there, the place was a sty-an absolute horror After I re-contacted all
who recommended it, I found that all did so on second or third or more- party
info. Luckily, I found a better home for the cat I was placing there, but
suffice to say...death would have been better.
T"MacKenzie, Kerry N."
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Hi
everyoneDoes anyone know anything about any of the following cat
shelters thatI'm told take FeLV cats--ie what sort of quality of life they
couldexpect---before I pass this info on to an animal
controlofficerthanks in advance. KerryFriends of Strays,
Princeton IL Animal Protection (-ive?) League, Springfield IL Quad
Cities Animal Welfare Center of Milan Happy Hearts
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Re: anyone know anything about these shelters

2005-08-30 Thread tamara stickler

Kerry,
No unfortunately I can't help you with these, but- please don't recommend any shelter without first visiting it yourself. I placed a felv+ cat at a shelter that came highly recommended by many in the rescue field...when I got there, the place was a sty-an absolute horror After I re-contacted all who recommended it, I found that all did so on second or third or more- party info. Luckily, I found a better home for the cat I was placing there, but suffice to say...death would have been better.
T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyoneDoes anyone know anything about any of the following cat shelters thatI'm told take FeLV cats--ie what sort of quality of life they couldexpect---before I pass this info on to an animal controlofficerthanks in advance. KerryFriends of Strays, Princeton IL Animal Protection (-ive?) League, Springfield IL Quad Cities Animal Welfare Center of Milan Happy Hearts Haven

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FW: [FivCats] Ignorance - need to let off steam!!

2005-08-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









I am sorry you guys, this physically hurts
to read it – but I am forwarding this to you so that we can honor his
passing and we can perhaps make a difference in each of our community from his existence…

 









From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
2:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [FivCats] Ignorance -
need to let off steam!!



 

I can’t stand to read it…it is
so painful – it breaks my heart, and literally hurts – I am praying
very hard that this kitty will come back soon to have a better life - 

 









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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [FivCats] Ignorance -
need to let off steam!!



 



This just frankly brings tears to my eyes - and then anger to my
heart.  Obviously the kitty's new family didn't know the truth about
FIV.    Will you be able to post something to educate them so
that if that comes up again with them the result will be different?

suetaft200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

This message has been posted
to a closed board I belong to 
(University board). Ihave just sent a rather blunt
reply which will 
no doubt get moderated, but this has made me feel
sick.

It reads:

They left him behind, the people who moved out of
the rented property 
down the road. They said he had "run
off", but they couldn't be 
bothered with him is probably closer to the truth.
He lived rough for 
six months until he fell on his paws and turned up
in our garden, so, 
so thin and hungry. That was a few weeks ago.
Since then he has been 
living in our garage while we sorted his fleas and
waited for his 
test results. We grew to love him, and our other
two to tolerate him. 
This morning the vet rang to say that he was FIV
positive. The deed 
was done, he is no more, we are desolate.


Why was he put to sleep if not through sheer
bloody ignorance. I wish 
I'd known about it before.

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anyone know anything about these shelters

2005-08-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Hi everyone

Does anyone know anything about any of the following cat shelters that
I'm told take FeLV cats--ie what sort of quality of life they could
expect---before I pass this info on to an animal control
officerthanks in advance. Kerry

Friends of Strays, Princeton IL
Animal Protection (-ive?) League, Springfield IL
Quad Cities Animal Welfare Center of Milan
Happy Hearts Haven

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RE: Leuk Positive Cat

2005-08-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Re this poor cat, Homey, that's doomed to die Wednesday unless a home is
found, do we/does anyone have a comprehensive list of
shelters/sanctuaries in the US that take FeLV cats? Any names we can
pass on to Judy and Amy? Or is this a dumb thing to ask since she/they
will already have contacted everyone? I've put a call through to someone
who may have some leads but any I hear of will probably be in the
Midwest. Kerry


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Wilkins
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Leuk Positive Cat 


Yet again, somebody has contacted me about helping out
a leukemia positive kitty.  Sorry to always be
dropping these on you guys but I just got married and
then came home and adopted 2 more cats (1 FIV+ and 1
FeLV+) the next day.  I'm out of room and I wanted to
write and see if anybody can take this cat.  I'll set
up transport if anybody has room for him. 

Here is a copy of the e-mail I got about him.  I also
have pictures of him that I will send to anybody that
is interested.  I need to find somebody within a
couple days or she will be euthanizing him.  He is in
Rochester, NY but I'm willing to set up transport up
to 8-10 hours away. 

(copy of e-mail) 

Dear Amy: 

Per Judy Newman's (Habitat for Cats?) request, I am
writing you to ask for your help, if you are able to
at all.  You have no idea how much I appreciate the
work you do for animals.  You are an angel.  Judy
asked me to give you as much information about this
cat as I could. 

I have been feeding feral/homeless cats for over 3
years now, every single morning at 5:30 am. (before
the owners get there, as they are not the nicest
people when it comes to compassion for these animals),
through rain and snow, behind Lorraine's Restaurant on
Culver and East Main.  I have seen quite a few
different animals, but the one I am now speaking of
just came about last Tuesday.  After putting the food
and water out, this cute cat let me come close to it,
then actually allowed me to scratch his head.  As I
started to get up, he sidled up to my leg and started
to follow me back to my car.  The next morning, I did
not see him, but on Thursday, with cage in the back
seat and a towel to grab it with, he allowed me to
pick it up and I brought it home to my back bedroom,
where, although a bit frightened, he let me pet him
and he gobbled up food. 

His demeanor is sweet.  At first, I thought it
couldn't be homeless due to its sweet way, but the
greasy coat, and matted fur, and malnourished body
that the veterinarian told me told me this morning it
had, convinced me otherwise.   At home I took a
washcloth and tried to bathe it the best I could.  He
even has started to play with strings. 

I had made an appointment for it on Monday, today, the
22nd of August for its shots and neutering.  I have
six other cats whom I have rescued over the years.  I
was planning on trying to find a home for this one
because as you know, its hard on the other cats in the
house - especially when they are all so territorial
already!  I brought the homeless kitty in this morning
and the vet immediately called me to say they had it
tested and it has feline leukemia.  Which broke  my
heart.  I called Humane Society as I have heard of
sanctuaries for these cats. They referred me to Judy
Newman. 

The reason this breaks my heart the most, is that this
cat is less than a year old, has very beautiful green,
loving eyes, purrs for me, plays with me, loves to be
held and rub his nose against your face.  He is also
litter trained.  He is like a black/brown striped
medium to long haired beauty.  I love him already so
much, but know I can't keep him with the other cats in
the house. 

The vet did the neutering procedure this morning, and
gave him his rabies and distemper shot.  They also
cleaned his mats out of fur.  I had him scheduled for
4 pm. to be put to sleep, but then received the call
from Judy an hour ago saying there may be hope, with
you.  And I know that is a slight chance, but Amy, you
have no idea how much you have helped already, knowing
someone out there cares about something that they
haven't even seen.  If you had by now, you would be in
love.  He is just the sweetest.  I called the vet and
asked them to give him the name "Homey" for now, so
that he at least will have had a name in his short
life.  I just called the vet and told them I would be
picking up the cat today at 4pm, at least for a few
days, and am going to take him home and give him some
great meals and loving, until I hear back from you. 






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RE: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

Hi, Terri, again this become a personal choice, but I follow holistic
medicine very strongly so my opinion is based on the practice - when
animals body is compromised already whether it is with FeLV virus or FIV
virus or any other illness, they recommend that never vaccinate the
animals - their immune system will be further compromised and may
trigger illness further - therefore, I don't - the only vaccine I may do
(not with feLV or FIV kitties, but others), is Distember and FECV/FCR
vaccines only the very first year of their life - 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri
Durham-Stone
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:07 AM
To: FELV Talk List
Subject: Vacs

Hi,  I am new to Leukemia,  but have 4 kittens (4 months)  that have
tested pos 2 times now and am wondering,  they have had their 1st shots
(3-1's)  but not with Leukemia,  should they get at least a 4-1 ?  I was
told "not" to give them the Leukemia.

Thank you
Terri
www.anyfelinerescue.org

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Terri Durham-Stone
Safe a Life "Spay and Neuter"
Live well, Love much, Laugh Often

Hydrazine Sulfate - cancer cure?

2005-08-30 Thread Nina







Has anyone heard of, or used, Hydrazine Sulfate for cancer? 
Someone on my IBD list sent this alert about it and I found a link to
the story, (toward the bottom of the page).  There is also an "Elwood"
fund to help cat guardians financially dealing with cancer.  Thought
you guys would be interested.
http://scri.ngen.com/

Nina

Re: Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Del Daniels




Hi Terri,
 
Since they already are FeLV+, do not give the FeLV 
vaccine.  The other vaccines are up to you.  Some vets/people feel 
they need all of their immune system to fight the FeLV and adding vaccines would 
further complicate it ... other vets/people feel the opposite, that they need 
the extra protection from the vaccines.  
I chose to give the kitties their first vaccine and 
first Rabies and no more.
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terri 
  Durham-Stone 
  To: FELV Talk List 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:07 
  AM
  Subject: Vacs
  Hi,  I am new to Leukemia,  but have 4 kittens (4 
  months)  that havetested pos 2 times now and am wondering,  they 
  have had their 1st shots(3-1's)  but not with Leukemia,  should 
  they get at least a 4-1 ?  I wastold "not" to give them the 
  Leukemia.Thank youTerriwww.anyfelinerescue.org--Terri 
  Durham-StoneSafe a Life "Spay and Neuter"Live well, Love much, Laugh 
  Often

Re: Vacs


  Oh, and welcome Terri  :)

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Re: Vacs

   I was told by my vet giving a positive the FeLV shot defeats the 
purpose of the shot, the cat is positive and the shot is useless. So 
everyone but Bailey, who is my positive gets it, Bailey has never gotten it.


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Vacs

2005-08-30 Thread Terri Durham-Stone

Hi,  I am new to Leukemia,  but have 4 kittens (4 months)  that have
tested pos 2 times now and am wondering,  they have had their 1st shots
(3-1's)  but not with Leukemia,  should they get at least a 4-1 ?  I was
told "not" to give them the Leukemia.

Thank you
Terri
www.anyfelinerescue.org

--
Terri Durham-Stone
Safe a Life "Spay and Neuter"
Live well, Love much, Laugh Often

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