Hi Marylyn,
Could tell me what Primal Raw is, where you buy it?
Also, what is Fast Track?
Thanks so much!
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
The problem is MANY times the vet ESPECIALLY with a positive cat will
assume it's FIP and NOT look for anything else ... and the cat will die
from something that was in many cases treatable.
And yes, there are lots of diseases that have similiar symptoms, but
when those diseases are ruled
Hi all
The past two weeks have been very hectic. I am dealing with my fiance's
illness and hospital doctor visits. Human medicine can be quite frustrating
dealing with insurance companies and doctors that are booked months in
advance.
Junior has been doing fairly well. He is stable at least, I
Hi Sally,
I don't have any experience with the actual eye
removal surgery, but we adopted Smookie while she
still had her stitches. She was a kitten, about 4
months old, when she had the surgery. She was fine
when we brought her home, but we did have to fight a
corneal ulcer in her remaining
I am so frustrated. I can only give the metacan 3x's
a week, and the stuff makes me jittery anyway. His
fever goes up and down. I have him laying next to a
cold pack right now, and i have sponged him off. His
temp is 105.3...again. We have been out of that range
for a few days.
He won't
Junior is adorable!!!
:)
Wendy
--- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all
The past two weeks have been very hectic. I am
dealing with my fiance's
illness and hospital doctor visits. Human medicine
can be quite frustrating
dealing with insurance companies and doctors that
are
Is IR out of the question?
:)
Wendy
--- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am so frustrated. I can only give the metacan
3x's
a week, and the stuff makes me jittery anyway. His
fever goes up and down. I have him laying next to a
cold pack right now, and i have sponged him off.
Hey Terrie,
I'm sorry about your daughter's Big Red kitty. It
sounds like your husband might also be sad about
losing his sleeping partner. I hope your daughter and
your husband are taking it ok. A lot of loss recently
it seems. Prayers for strength going out to you and
yours.
:)
Wendy
---
Her fever is up to normal (she was cold yesterday) and she's a bit
more alert, but still very ill.
He has her on a broadspectrum antibiotic and interferon (human, not feline).
Anyone who wants to see her lab results let me know...I will email
them privately.
--
Rescuties - Saving the world,
No, it is not. I am going to ask about it. Didn't
you have a cat withthis? Did you give the IR when he
had it? I know you sid it has kept him from having
them, but did it help when he was sick? Is it
espensive?
Dede
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is IR out of the question?
:)
Just from my own experience with Smokey. He had high
fevers like Ki and the vet started him on Winstrol to
help him feel better and IR. I truly believe the IR
helped him get over the fevers. I gave it to him
subq. I know it says IV but subq has worked so far
with him.
Cindy Reasoner
--- dede
I had a kitty with severe anemia, and ordered the IR,
but he was too far gone for it to work. He had a low
body temp. so the IR was not for temp. for him. Cindy
might be the one who uses the IR for temps for her
kitty, Smokey, but I'm not sure.
I hope his fever goes away soon!
:)
Wendy
---
What is Winstrol? Is it for fever? BTW, I have him
down to 103 with sponging his coat, and being by a
fan. He is also laying next to a cold pack.
He must be comfortable because he hasn't moved. ( and
he CAN move whenhe sees that thermometer)
He just ate a piece of raw liver!!! (Uck, but to
P.S. I paid about 30$ for it online I think at Revival
Animal Health. There were shipping charges also, and
I had it overnighted so it was a little expensive. I
think I paid $50 total.
:)
Wendy
--- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it is not. I am going to ask about it. Didn't
you
I am trying to talk him into the FOI..he is going to check out the study
I can only find the abstract online..they want 30 dollars to read the
whole thing..
His comment was that since the FIP cats lived, and diagnosis of FIP
can only be conclusively determined through necropsy, we can't be sure
Hi everyone. I wanted to provide an update on my FeLV pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee. He saw his Vet yesterday to determine whether the Epogen had helped his anemia. The news was very bad. Apparently last week, when the anemia started, his Red Blood cell count was 13%. After a week ( 3 doses
Winstrol is a steroid. Vets use it a lot for horses.
Long term use is not recommended but short term is
ok.
:)
Wendy
--- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is Winstrol? Is it for fever? BTW, I have
him
down to 103 with sponging his coat, and being by a
fan. He is also laying
It is a steroid. The vet gave Smokey this because she
said it would help him to feel better and to feel like
eating. He only got the Winstrol injections every 2
weeks about 3 times. When Smokey first started on the
IR he had a fever. We gave him 2 injections per week
for about a month and
I had mentioned striods to her, but she said it would
further weaken his immune system.
On another note, you all know we live in rural NY. I
cannot drive because of a visual problem. So my
neighbor has been helping me to increase his
Karma...no kidding.
The down side is that if i have to
With Serenity, my felv+ kitty who passed last Thanksgiving, she was in the best
veterinary hands that money could buy.
He is a feline specialist w/ 40+ yrs. experience.
Dr. Smith confirmed wet FIP, then we started her on predisone Doxy.
Her stomach was huge, so I bought her a big donut type
Hi Caroline,
I'm sorry that Monkee's HCT count is not too good. I
cried when I read your account of going to Dr. Maier's
office. It felt like a rainbow bursting through the
clouds. I loved the story about Monkee trying to get
at those cats. He sounds like a hoot.
If Monkee isn't making any
Hang in there Dede. Ki's situation could go either
way. It's not time to give up hope. Steriods can
weaken an immune system, but your vet has to weigh the
short term vs. the long term. The IR sounds good to
me at this point.
:)
Wendy
--- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had
I meant mentions reticulocytes...sorry.
:)
Wendy
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Caroline,
I'm sorry that Monkee's HCT count is not too good.
I
cried when I read your account of going to Dr.
Maier's
office. It felt like a rainbow bursting through the
clouds. I loved the story
That's so frustrating, isn't it? There really is no side effects from FOI -
every day you wait is less chance that you have to save her lives -Kelley, let
me know if you want me to ship mine - I know they are not cheap, but I want
Suzi to have the opportunity to use it - you can bring her home
Epogen takes anywhere from 2 to three weeks to work and they can and
usually do go lower in the meantime. Bailey's HCT went from 20% to 15%
while we waited for the epogen to kick in it took a little over 2 weeks,
and after it started working, within 5 weeks or so he was normal again.
--
That is *not her decision* and I would NEVER see a vet that would set
limits on how far she will go to help *my* furkid
She also said that morally, with FeLV cats, she will do 2 blood
transfusions, and then that is it. It is fighting a losing battle and
that is as far as she will take
Gee I wonder why, cats are very smart and sensitive and something tells
me Monkee knosw this vet doesn't really care for cats (positive or
otherwise).
A funny story about this visit: Monkee totally perked up as soon as we
left Dr. Daley�s (*he hates it there!*).
--
Belinda
happiness is
This is flat NOT true, when Bailey became anemic we did beat that, it
was the cancer we couldn't find that killed him, his HCT was normal for
the rest of his life once we started the epogen (5 months), it was at
33%. he was still getting epo but his dose was tapered down to once a
week and
Everytime I hear this I post this, Bailey's anemia was non regenerative
and we DID reverse it.
and it is not a good anemia to have. It means the leukemia is probably active
in the bone marrow, which is, as far as I know, irreversable.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Just got back from the vet. She put him on Delta
Albaplex. It has several antibiotics and
prednisolone. We are to use it for 5 days.
Took blood. She said it looked thin. His gums are
OK, but it looks like he is amemic.
I called Revival. The IR is only 5ml. How much do
you use at a time?
I got my Epogen (the generic Epoetin) from my Vet and it costs $78 for teeny tiny bottle! Monkee got three subcutaneous injections of it- only .3 ml- on a Tuesday, then Thursday, then Saturday. That was how the Vet prescribed it for Monkee's anemia.
-Caroline
From:dede hicken [EMAIL
I just always got my IR from the vet. She would fix
the dosage in the the syringes and I would just keep
them refrigerated. I never really paid attention to
the dosage. I will look tonight. You and Ki are in
my prayers.
Cindy Reasoner
--- dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just got back
To Wendy and Belinda:
Monkee was done at 12:00 today, so I left work to go get him and take him back home (it's quite a drive for me, so I ended up being gone 2 hours). I didn't want him staying at the "hospital" any minute longer than necessary because he hates it there so much now. I was both
This didn't go thru the way it should have--sounds like cats on the
keyboard. What I did after I cut the little ant-size garage doors
in the sides of the shoebox lid was place two ant baits under the lid
and top it off with several folded newspapers to keep the top stable
and hide it from
This is the toll so far from this year, not including kittens.
Joey - 10 - died in late April. Being treated for AIHA.
Lucky Lady - 12 - got sick, was adopted by my vet, apparently recovered but
is now dying, they think cancer.
Caroline - ran up a bill in excess of $1,000. No one knows what
Check for arsenic as in treated lumber...decks, play areas etc. Even wood
used in a basement.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
*Oh dear God Kelley... I'm so sorry you are dealing with all of this. I
can imagine how frantic you must be. Are you feeling sick at all? Are you
using any cleaning supplies that might be causing illness? Are you living
in an older house that might have issues like this? I wish I had some
*Do they use arsenic in pressure treated lumber still today?!?*
On 6/27/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check for arsenic as in treated lumber...decks, play areas etc. Even
wood used in a basement.
If you have men who will
They did until a couple of years ago and it is still available for some uses.
Two/three years ago, after it had been banned for use in houses, a dealer for
BK Cypress Log Homes quoted me a package that contained arsenic treated lumber
and, when I questioned him, sent me an awful email
I don't have any wood. I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it,
vinyl tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces.
Where the ac flooded and we had to rip up the tile...but that was 3 years
ago...
On 6/27/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They did until a
Kelley
I am so sorry that you are experiencing this assault. It must be
so difficult and so stressful.
Our animals are often victims of what we have done to our
environment (pesticides, herbicides, chemicals etc) and
over vaccination and feeding poor quality food. It has been going on
for too
PLEASE CROSSPOST!!!
contact linda if you can help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
beautiful FeLV+ himalayan, one his way to a forever home in MA from KY,
needs a place to stay for one week--his transporter has a commitment in/near
TABERNACLE, NJ.
thought he had a place to stay for the week, but it JUST
Cassandra
I've been off line for this past week and was so sad to see
that Tomi did not make it. My first thought was that at least he
is with Kisa and that they are both out of pain.
I hope you can take comfort in knowing that.
Jane
Dear Caroline
Here's hoping that this transfusion will bring Monkee back and give you
plenty of time to regroup.
It is such a difficult time for the both of you. I hope that this new
vet will
give you both the support that you need, and help in knowing when it is
the time,
whenever that may
Do you have your house sprayed with pesticides?
elizabeth
On 6/27/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have any wood. I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it,
vinyl tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces.
Where the ac flooded and we had to
I had the outside sprayed for termites 2 years ago, and the inside sprayed
for ants 3 years ago...
On 6/27/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have your house sprayed with pesticides?
elizabeth
On 6/27/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have any wood. I
Where does he need a place to stay for week? What state? Does it matter? If Kentucky, let me know and I will see if I can round up help...
Caroline in Kentucky
From:MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:FeLVTalk FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Was she Felv positive. I had a cat who had the surgery. It is not very
invasive. I just woorry about his FELV status and how this would affect his
health. He is back on the glaucoma drops but they do not cure the problem
and he hates the drops.
Thanks
Sally
On 6/27/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Wendy,
Thank you but aren't they all :-)
Feel free to post if you wish, the board is for fun.
Sally
On 6/27/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Junior is adorable!!!
:)
Wendy
--- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all
The past two weeks have been very hectic. I am
dealing
needs to be in NJ--the transporter is taking him from kentucky, stopping off
in NJ for a week, then continuing on to MA!
On 6/27/07, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where does he need a place to stay for week? What state? Does it
matter? If Kentucky, let me know and I will see
I wish I knew what to tell youit may not be anything in your environment
at all. I feel so bad for you.
elizabeth
On 6/27/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had the outside sprayed for termites 2 years ago, and the inside sprayed
for ants 3 years ago...
On 6/27/07, elizabeth
No decks or fences? Here they tried to use treated wood (the new version) in
the walls where it touched the concrete.
Any insecticides? Termite/roach/ants stuff? Any cleaning solutions?
Bleaches?
I'm not picking at you. Please don't think that. I know of other cases where
things we
Here is her webpage:
http://www.rescuties.org/animals/detail?AnimalID=126269
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
http://www.rescuties.org
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Please help Caroline!
I use bleach. I have to to kill the virus such as URI that comes from the
sheltr. I use bleach in the litterboxes to kill the giardia, coccidia. I
use bleach in my sheets so i don't hav eto sleep on peed on sheets.
I try to use simple green when I think it will work.
The thing that mystifies
On the over vaccination thought: There are homeopathic remedies that lessen
the effects of vaccination. Homeopathy is a legitimate area of medicine used a
lot in Europe (like acupuncture is used widely in Asia and not here). I don't
know much about it but my alternative vets do and I depend
Vinegar is supposed to work as well as bleach. When you use bleach consider
rinsing an extra time or two. It should help remove the bleach after it has
done its job. If you have the space and litter boxes, leaving them in the
sun/fresh air after cleaning them may help.
If you believe it
How about the food? What do the eat? Was any of their food related to recall
food?
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