Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
I called the vet and picked up a tube of this gel today. It is expensive (over $21 a tube!) but he ate it tonight with no negative reaction. So that's done! - Original Message - From: "CATHERINE DIDONNA" To: Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in a highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:47 PM I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would work better? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food. Poor guy vomited it right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes! So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about 250 mg)? Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine? Ideas? Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] New
Hello there, I am new to this group. My cat Bodie was diagnosed with FELV on Monday, he is nine months old. I don't have much knowledge about this disease and hope that maybe some of you can help to inform me. My first question is how long do cats with Felv live? Some websites said a couple of years and some said they can live a full life. How long have your cats lived? To my knowledge there are no meds out there, right?? As far as vitamins or food, would you have any suggestions. I know that it is important to keep his immune system up. Right now Bodies is healthy and very energetic. He has an eye infection that is clearing up, other than that you would have no idea that he is sick. I feel a very overwhelmed and scared. I would love to hear some tips and info for a newbie. Thank you all so much. Kristin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list
So sorry to hear about Chloe's passing, I have added her to the candle light service. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous disease. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] No fleas
Stacy what part of the country do you live in? - Original Message - From: "Stacy Zacher" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] No fleas Thanks to everyone for your help. Under the microscope, the vet said that the bugs I brought in have wings and were not fleas but looked very similar. He said that the lump and "dirt" under Spanky's chin was probably acne. He did a blood draw for a full panel/cbc and took a slide of his suspected mast cell tumor on his nose so I will post results when I get them. The vet said his lymph nodes in the hind legs felt swollen but no other lymph nodes did. He also got an LTCI injection and was a very good patient. Thanks! Stacy and Spanky Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:35:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stacy Zacher To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: <935259.94530...@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not.? He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin.? So far I've found "natural" flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil? (combinations of these).?? I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
This is very interesting... I have been isolating Lucky, my mom's cat, for 4 weeks now. I let him out of his room to sniff the house and let the other cat see him. It is mostly going well (but he hates being stuck inside). I am having him retested next Monday, which will be 5 weeks from the original test. I'm asking for the IFA (?) test this time. If he is positive, I am going to have a mobile vet come in and vaccinate my 3 adult cats before he can integrate. If he is negative, he'll be immediately released from his isolation. Either way, they will all eventually have to live together. Reading your story gives me confirmation on my idea. I guess more isolation is better than not enough, even if Lucky doesn't like it! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beth Noren" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained negative. Best wishes, Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] No fleas
Thanks to everyone for your help. Under the microscope, the vet said that the bugs I brought in have wings and were not fleas but looked very similar. He said that the lump and "dirt" under Spanky's chin was probably acne. He did a blood draw for a full panel/cbc and took a slide of his suspected mast cell tumor on his nose so I will post results when I get them. The vet said his lymph nodes in the hind legs felt swollen but no other lymph nodes did. He also got an LTCI injection and was a very good patient. Thanks! Stacy and Spanky Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:35:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stacy Zacher To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: <935259.94530...@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not.? He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin.? So far I've found "natural" flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil? (combinations of these).?? I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
Melinda, mixing is an individual decision. I had negative kitties when I first started rescuing kittens in 2007. 2 of the first 3 were positive. Once the negative was current on the vaccine (original shot and booster 30 days later) I mixed mine with no ill effects. I had a total of 6 positive indoors with my negatives. The positives are all gone now and my negatives are still negative. Other than Stormie all my negatives were adults. Age seems to make a difference. Adult cats seem to have a natural immunity whereas kittens seem to be more susceptible. Stormie was approx. 16 weeks old when I rescued her and the vaccine did protect her. She is now a very healthy 4 yo. Sharyl --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: > From: Melinda Kerr > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 5:14 AM > OK, I know I am going to get some > really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is > positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and > negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it > didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she > was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was > almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing > really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would > be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I > have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as > one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been > introduced to each other and seem as though they will get > along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see > her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that > mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed > with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing > where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking > for stories of success or failure. Please share your > stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
That's correct, never use anything that is meant for dog on cats! However, the two listed sites, have products for both cats and dogs. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing for them to be safe with dogs On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today > and confirm if he does have fleas or not. He eats from only > stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by > something to cause the lump under his chin. So far I've found > "natural" flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, > rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar > oil (combinations of these). I will ask the vet about testing for > FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. > Hope to be flea free, > Stacy and Spanky > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400 > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas > Message-ID: <004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. > All > kinds of natural products. > www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product > to spray > around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats > can use > the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are > introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas. > The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune > systems, the > better! > > -Original Message- > From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas > > If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often > mistaken > for flea dirt. Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try > using > only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous > alternatives > against fleasthe cedar one is good. We use nematodes to spray > around > the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > create_me_...@yahoo.com > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas > > I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which > will > cause severe anemia & comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage > every > month & I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms > which will > deprive the cat of nutrients. > Beth > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Szacherdroid > Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 > To: > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas > > Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt > looking > dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red > bugs > around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, > they > couldn't be fleas. I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably > warm here > in WI this week. > > Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune > system for > fleas. I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home > and treat > him. He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't > think that > would be good for him now. We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci > injection > and bloodwork. I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for > identification. > > Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing for them to be safe with dogs On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and confirm if he does have fleas or not. He eats from only stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump under his chin. So far I've found "natural" flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar oil (combinations of these). I will ask the vet about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas. Hope to be flea free, Stacy and Spanky Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400 From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Message-ID: <004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All kinds of natural products. www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to spray around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can use the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas. The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the better! -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken for flea dirt. Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives against fleasthe cedar one is good. We use nematodes to spray around the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause severe anemia & comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month & I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the cat of nutrients. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Szacherdroid Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49 To: Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be fleas. I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this week. Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for fleas. I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat him. He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that would be good for him now. We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and bloodwork. I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for identification. Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
It all seems as though fate has hand, doesn't it? Thank you for the response. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Beth Noren wrote: > I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and > died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon > after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with > his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings > vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive > sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the > whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them > mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered > and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained > positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained > negative. > > Best wishes, > Beth > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained negative. Best wishes, Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
Thank you. I was hoping to hear it would be ok. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Pat Kachur wrote: > When I adopted my Mandy, I had six other kitties. When I found (the day > after I picked her up) that she was positive, I did keep her separated from > the other six until I got all their vaccinations up to date. After that, per > my vet's opinion/advice, I let them all interact. Mandy passed away about 2 > years later but no one else has gotten sick (and Mandy's been gone for a year > now). > > Pat > - Original Message - From: "Melinda Kerr" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:14 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I > really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and > negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on > her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass > developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing > really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs > of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend > to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been > introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. > Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets > seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share > your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
When I adopted my Mandy, I had six other kitties. When I found (the day after I picked her up) that she was positive, I did keep her separated from the other six until I got all their vaccinations up to date. After that, per my vet's opinion/advice, I let them all interact. Mandy passed away about 2 years later but no one else has gotten sick (and Mandy's been gone for a year now). Pat - Original Message - From: "Melinda Kerr" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mixing
OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
