Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi Bonnie, So sorry that Lucky is having urinary issues. If he is going in the litter box and crying, and not producing urine, I would take him back in or call the vet immediately. Did he have the surgery to remove his penis, can't think of the name of it, sorry, or did he just have a

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Margo
Hi Bonnie, I can relate. Two of my positives are also struvitecrystal formers.Two mainquestions. What is he eating? Was a culture and sensitivitydone to confirm actual bacterial infection, or did the Vet just prescribe abx, and what wasLucky taking? Uroeze is a urine acidifier, so I guess

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Beth
I agree, left alone the condition is lethal.   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Gosh, thanks so much for the encouragement. I just called made an appointment to take Lucky back to the vet in 45 minutes. And I’ll join the FLUTD group – that will be helpful. He’s on Uroeze because he didn’t like CD food formulated to help with this….maybe just straight canned Wellness

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Great information, Margo. Thanks a million! I have some questions for my vet. Lucky was on Antrobe Aquadrops for a u.t.i. If it isn’t crystals, I wonder what it could be. Maybe still u.t.i.? the vet didn’t say anything about idiopathis cystitis (that I recall). Lucky eats (as do the other

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi Bonnie, Great that you are taking him in, good luck at the vet visit. Hope he gets some relief. This is just anecdotal, but numerous folks on the FLUTD list have had their cats block while feeding Wellness brand. Probably best to avoid that brand, or if you use it, rotate with other brands

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Beth
I wasn't trying to be discouraging, but it is an urgent situation that requires immediate attention from a vet. I had a cat with a urinary blockage she almost died. I'd hate to see your lose your baby. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org  

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
2 things I can think of right away, does he get enough water and try some apple cider vinegar, not th ovcer processed stuff, get Bragg's, shake it up and add a few drops to his water. I have gone thru this with both males and females. Doesn't always work, sometimes I get it started too late.

[Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages (tumors) in his urinary tract. They did not see any crystals. The vet did say his bladder is

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
OMG, it's true.  Chicken feathers!  And they are researching worm meal too!  http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcbabej/2013/05/29/dog-food-made-from-feathers-a-win-win-for-royal-canin/   I'm so glad I was never that impressed with Royal Canin to begin with. From: dlg...@windstream.net

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
Struvite crystals have always been the cu;print here. Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
Had not heard that about Wellness before, may have to watch it because of Harley and Homey who is female, but does have problems with bladder infections. DAMN, WHY CAN;'T WE FIND A FOOD THAT DOESEN'T CAUSE PROBLEMS? Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Bonnie, Great that you are

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Margo
Hi Bonnie, All in all, I'd say that's good news. I try to avoid dry food, but the RC SO is what I have for those times someone is stubborn or insistent on dry food. They like it :) I haven't tried the canned, for wet food I use EVO, Hounds and Gatos, and others with basically meat only. That's

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
no research, just an interview with the ceo and he said well it is protein. i like the wellness turkey mostly because that is one T hey will eat. they also like Blue Buffalo duck and turkey. NO ONE LIKES CHICKEN NO MATTER WHAT THE BRAND. BEEF IS SO, SO AND FISH JUST SITS THERE UNTIL I THROW

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Margo
Hi, Could you provide a link to that? Or some other well documented source coroborating that information? I use RC SO when I need to add dry, so I'd like to be informed, but that contradicts what my research has shown. Wellness foods have been implicated in the formation of

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
MY BOBBY DID DIE. ALSO LITTLE NITNOY. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I wasn't trying to be discouraging, but it is an urgent situation that requires immediate attention from a vet. I had a cat with a urinary blockage she almost died. I'd hate to see your lose your baby. Don't

Re: [Felvtalk] Male Cat Urinary Crystals

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I know, the food issue is and issue! I would feed them frozen (thawed) mice if I thought it'd keep them healthy! No magic formula I guess. When it comes down to it, human animals face similar problems. Our diet helps or hurts us, depending. Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
I had been feeding them all EVO dry food. I'm going to try Lucky on Royal Canin SO diet (canned). My fingers are crossed he'll eat it! B. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Beth
That is encouraging news. My vet said there used to something in Science Diet that caused this, too, ut they changed the formula. Not hat SD is the greatest food to begin with.   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Bonnie Hogue

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
WATCH ROYAL CANNIN, THEY LIST AS FIRST INGREDIENT CHICKEN MEAL WHICH THEIR CEO SAID ON TV INTERVIEW IS GROUND UP CHICKEN FEATHERS. WELLNESS IS BETTER CHOICE. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great news is Lucky's blood

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
IN THE MEAN TIME, GLAD YOU FOUND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS SO IT CAN BE TREATED. WILL KEEP YOU BOTH IN MY PRAYERS. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Shelley Theye
Glad Lucky is feeling a little better! I hope you get some good tips, etc. from the yahoo FLUTD group. How old is he? Also, is he FeLV positive? I think older cats are more prone to get uti's... Shelley On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: We spent a lot of time (and almost

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Margo
Thanks! I feel better about my RC. It's a minor part of their diet, but I don't feed them the hypoallergenic dog food that's made from feathers .Iresearched the science behind the hydrolyzed hypo-allergenic foods when I had a dog with issues, so I understand some of that. I misunderstood, and

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Margo
Hi Bonnie, Since there was no evidence of crystals, Id just go for a high meat canned food (like the EVO 95% varieties), without the acidifiers. Using that could incline him towards oxylate stones, which are much more difficult to deal with. Margo -Original Message- From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread trustinhim13
Praying that Lucky heals. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread dlgegg
and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of protein. They already use animals euthanized by humane society. I think it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying. Susan

Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky

2013-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks, Margo (and everyone who helped). Lucky actually ate the RC s/o diet tonight! And he is at least going out to the cat boxes in the garage rather than trying to pee in the house. We have some anti-inflammatory to help with his urgency I hope. Hopefully we're crossing a bridge toward