Re: Stamp/Anemia
What kind of litter was he eating? That can be deadly if it's a clay litter Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT, I found something fun to do online
I do spend more time online than I should :-) If you want me to add things to your wiki, just send me the url, and I'll see if I can add any valid info. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: South Korea (OT)
It's Korea, so no, there's nothing we can do. They still EAT cats and dogs there, skinning them alive after plunging them live into a pot of boiling water. The good news with global warming, most of the Asian countries that are so backwards in animal welfare will be partially under water as the sea rises, so... it's a temporary problem; a very temporary problem, if trends continue as they are. Don't believe me... rent the new movie that's out in the rental stores called "An Inconvenient Truth". http://www.climatecrisis.net/ Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Guage of needles for subQ???
Yes, sub-q can be done with smaller needles, keep in mind that the smaller the needle, the LONGER it will take to get the same amount of fluids in, if you go too small, you may have to sit there and squeeze the bag the entire time (and it could take 30 minutes of longer). There has been some studies done that suggest that keeping the needles refrigerated or frozen before use lessens the pain. Start by going one size smaller, and go down until she seems to accept it better, but stay as large as you can to keep the flow moving quickly. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Stamp/Anemia/Litter suggestions
Maybe try World's Best or sWheat Scoop? Those are both wheat or corn based I think... should be digestible, at least. I'd definitely try to use something digestible corn, wheat... something like that. I'm currently using HORSE stall pine shavings, and it's saved me TONS of money already. A huge bale costs $3.99 and I swear, it's like a 6 month supply. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: loose stools
Specifically WHICH parasites did your vet test for? How about Giardia, Coccidia, and Tritrichomonsis? Have you done food trials to test for food allergies? The best treatment for diarrhea is to find the cause and to treat the cause that involves lots of testing. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Innoculation protocol for adult cats with unknown health histories
Adult cats do not need FELV vaccines. The only exception to that would be if you KNEW the cat was going to be living in a household with FELV+ cats, and even then, it's not required, just recommended. Healthy adult cats develop natural immunity. Adult cats with unknown histories should get a FVRCP vaccine (that's a combination of herpesvirus [also known as rhinotracheitis], calicivirus, and panleukopenia). I, personally, do not think there is any benefit in booster vaccines, and many sources will also say that boosters are over used and not effective in adult cats. UC Davis school of veterinary medicine's feline vaccine recommendations: The UC Davis VMTH vaccination guidelines below have been based on recently published studies and recommendations made by task forces (including the AAFP/AFM Advisory Panel on Feline Vaccines, AAHA Canine Vaccine Task Force, and the AVMA Council on Biologic and Therapeutic Agents), which include representatives from academia, private practices, governmental regulatory bodies, and industry. These groups have evaluated the benefits versus risks of the vaccines currently available on the market. Because these factors may change over time, we recommend the vaccination plan for each individual pet be decided by the owner at routine annual examinations, following a discussion between the veterinarian and the client regarding the animal's lifestyle in the year ahead. Guidelines for vaccination in shelter situations can be accessed at the Center for Companion Animal Health's shelter medicine website. A previous history of vaccination reactions in an individual pet, and certain physiologic conditions such as pregnancy will also affect recommendations for vaccination. For all vaccines given, the product, expiration date, lot number, route and location of injection is documented in the record. Feline Core Vaccines, The definitions of core and non-core vaccines described in the canine vaccination guidelines above also apply to the feline vaccines. The core feline vaccines are those for feline herpesvirus 1 (FHV1), feline calicivirus (FCV), feline panleukopenia virus (FPV) and rabies. : Feline Herpesvirus 1, Feline Calicivirus and Feline Panleukopenia Virus Vaccines - For initial kitten vaccination (< 16 weeks), one dose of parenteral vaccine containing modified live virus (MLV) FHV1, FCV, and FPV is recommended at 6-8 weeks, 9-11 weeks, and 12-16 weeks of age. For cats older than 16 weeks of age, one dose of vaccine containing modified live virus (MLV) FHV1, FCV, and FPV is recommended. After a booster at one year, revaccination is suggested every 3 years thereafter for cats at low risk of exposure. According to recommendations of the vaccine-associated sarcoma task force, these vaccines are administered over the right shoulder. Note that recommendations for killed and intranasal FHV1 and FCV vaccines are different from the above. Killed and intranasal varieties of these vaccines are not routinely used at the VMTH. The use of FPV MLV vaccines should be avoided in pregnant queens and kittens less than one month of age. Feline Rabies Virus Vaccines - Cats are important in the epidemiology of rabies in the US. In general we recommend that kittens receive a single dose of killed or recombinant rabies vaccine at 12-16 weeks of age. Adult cats with unknown vaccination history should also receive a single dose of killed or recombinant rabies vaccine. For the recombinant vaccines, boosters are recommended at yearly intervals. We currently stock and suggest the use of the recombinant rabies vaccine, as it is theoretically less likely to be associated with sarcoma formation. For the killed rabies vaccines, a booster is required at one year, and thereafter, rabies vaccination should be performed every 3 years using a vaccine approved for 3-year administration. According to recommendations of the vaccine-associated sarcoma task force, rabies vaccines are administered subcutaneously as distally as possible in the right rear limb. Feline Non-Core Vaccines, Optional or non-core vaccines for cats consist of the vaccines for feline leukemia virus (FeLV), feline immunodeficiency virus, feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), Chlamydophila felis, Bordetella bronchiseptica, and Giardia spp. : Feline Leukemia Virus Vaccine - A number of FeLV vaccines are available on the market, and many have reasonable efficacy. We suggest vaccination of FeLV-negative cats allowed to go outdoors or cats having direct contact with other cats of unknown FeLV status. Vaccination is most likely to be useful in kittens and young adult cats, because acquired resistance to infection develops beyond 16 weeks of age. Vaccination is not recommended for FeLV-positive cats and indoor cats with no likelihood of exposure to FeLV, especially for cats older than 16 weeks of age. We currently stock and suggest the use of the recombinant transdermal FeLV vaccine, although there is no evidence as yet that it is associated with a decreased
Re: Innoculation protocol for adult cats with unknown healthhistories
Perhaps the terminology is more correct, but if you do a search for Injection Site Sarcoma, you'll probably get far fewer pages about it than if you search for Vaccine Associated Sarcomas. And... it is the same condition. So, I'm more apt to use the name that is most common when referring people to do searches for educational purposes. I think it's awesome that your vet is so easy to work with, and I think it's even better that you are seeking the advice, and looking up the information. Like I said, don't take anyone's word as absolute truth, you really have to make your own decisions for what policies are best for you. That's what's so good about doing your OWN rescue work... you make the rules and policies, and those rules and policies reflect your ideals and goals, and so long as you stay true to what you believe in (but always keep an open mind to new studies and new discoveries), then you'll always know in your heart that you are doing the absolute best you can do for the cats in your care! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT:Away for the time being...
I was offline for a week, DSL problems. Fixed now (now that the tech pulled his head out of you-know-where) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Uveitis
Or try a Fentanyl patch (often called duragestic patches). That's a patch that they shave the cat and stick it on them, lasts for 3-4 days. Very effective pain relief. I'd be very concerned if my vet didn't offer pain meds, and then when pressed offered aspirin, that should be one of the last things for pain, yes, it's good for a blood thinner, but NOT the best choice for pain. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/fentanyl.htm Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters/Attn: Belinda(list)& allthat sent cards
PATTI! It's so good to have you check in, we've all been worried about you and wishing you well! I hope this font is big enough that you can read it ok! I'm SO very sorry to hear that Cornelius passed on. I also send my best regards for Puma, and I hope his corona NEVER mutates into FIP. I wish you all the best, and hope you find the answers you are seeking in your health very soon! Phaewryn
Fw: Emily (you guys have any advice?)
I was offline for a week, my friend Renee got Emily's diagnosis see below. Anyone have any advise for her? Her email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phaewryn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Emily Readers digest version for nowIt was adenocarcinoma. I took her to a specialist yesterday (oncologist at a private veterinary hospital...what an awsome place Red Bank Veterinary Hospital ). Anyway, because the biopsy report was kind of flimsy and because my vet first told me the tumor was marble size and then told me it was about 4 cm when I asked him for size in terms of centimeters, 2 weeks later, (4 is quite large and much bigger than a marble) Dr. Clifford, the Oncologist was not able to give me a prognosis and definate recomendation yesterday...I have to call him mid week to see what else he could find out. I think it is going to turn out to be radical mastectomy (both mammary chains and lymphnodes followed by chemo). I'll write more when I have some time...UGH...I'm so stressed.
Re: Need advice please
No. Saliva tests are not accurate. For that matter, even professionally run blood tests have false results occasionally. This was discussed in depth not too long ago, check the archives for anything with ELISA,SNAP, or FELV testing in the subject. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: suggestions on yummy food for 5 month old kittten
The tiny cans of Fancy Feast, one is called fish and shrimp FLAKED feast, blue label, never had a cat turn it down yet. Short term food, of course, it's not a good brand for long term, not a premium brand. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Hello friends
Welcome to the group Nita, it sounds like you are doing your best, and have priorities straight to me, spay/neuter always comes first. I'd put the best quality diet you can afford right behind that. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Uveitis
You shouldn't feel personally responsible for the fact that YOU didn't know the eye hurt until after the vet visit. The VET should have been able to tell that though, it's his/her JOB! Then he/she should have prescribed an appropriate medication for that pain before you left the office. It's not just that one vet, it seems to be many of them, from experience, they just do not seem to CARE that animals can feel pain, or are in denial about it. Don't beat yourself up... and don't write that vet off either. I use different vet for different things. Perhaps that is THE vet to take most cats to for the bulk work of testing, neutering, etc; but you might consider a different one for things like the Uveitis and other chronic painful conditions. Just because maybe he lacked in one area (pain management) doesn't mean he's not a wonderful vet for routine exams and vaccines and such. As far as you being a wimp, don't fret over it so much... it happens. Try writing a letter in advance of all the things you WANT to say to the vet, but know you wont have the courage to, then, when you first go in the door, hand the letter to the vet and say "This is a list of things I want to go over with you or have questions about, and didn't want to forget. I wasn't sure how to phrase some things to ask you in person, so please forgive me if it seems rude or doesn't make any sense." That gets the info across, relieves you of the public speaking fear, and also apologizes in advance just in the off chance you offend him/her (though often in cases of shyness, it's often only in the mind of the shy person). I used to be terribly shy, couldn't talk to strangers, avoided social groups, always lost sleep over things I did say to people, etc. Then, I just cracked, and went from being so shy I couldn't function, to so offensive it's hard to communicate with others. Now, I often just start conversations with "Sorry if this offends you, but " or "Please forgive me if this comes out wrong, but " and I learned to laugh at myself, that was the hardest part, to stop dwelling on what other people thought of me, and just learn that NO-ONE is perfect, and everyone mis-speaks occasionally, the difference between outspoken people and shy people is that outspoken people go "Oh my, did I just say that!? (laughing) Sometimes I don't know what I'm saying! I'm a moron! (more laughing)" whereas shy people turn beet red and run away and hide, and run the scenario through their heads replaying it over and over, trying to analyze what went wrong and how they could have done it right, and how to fix it, and what the other person will think of them next time they meet, and how to avoid that person, etc, and lose lots of sleep and be very stressed about it. Learning to let go and surrender to the fact that you will not always be socially accepted in life will make you much happier and more able to participate in life. You have to learn to laugh it off, and then drop it, the past is the past, and you can't change things you have already said, and the future is the future, and you can't let fear of what you MIGHT say keep you from speaking. Live moment to moment, and learn that you're totally out of control in life, and just go with the flow, that's what I did, and it's worked fairly well for me. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Thor Pleases add to the CLS
Awww, cute, dipstick. My condolences go out to you and everyone at the shelter. Phaewryn
Re: ear infection/ear surgery
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/ear-infections.html http://www.2ndchance.info/earprobs.htm http://www.2ndchance.info/earsurg.htm http://www.vetinfo.com/catear.html#Chronic%20otitis%20media%20-%20ear http://www.vetsurgerycentral.com/ventral%20bulla.htm http://www.dermapet.com/articles/otitis_surgery.html http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10./j.1748-5827.2003.tb00101.x http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10./j.1532-950x.2004.04065.x?journalCode=vsu http://www.dfwvetsurgeons.com/total-ear.html This one is not likely, but I ran across it, and it does have one disturbing paragraph in it: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=340369 " Lymphoma is the most common feline neoplasia. In the last 15 y, the overall incidence of feline lymphoma has decreased, and the relative frequency of different anatomical forms has changed. These shifts in the incidence and locations of feline lymphoma may be due, in part, to the use of commercial vaccines to prevent infection with feline leukemia virus, a biologic carcinogen responsible for the development of feline lymphoma. " Am I mis-reading that, or are they saying that the FELV vaccine is a biologic carcinogen that causes Lymphoma? This is from the main NIH website that describes itself as: The National Institutes of Health (NIH), a part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, is the primary Federal agency for conducting and supporting medical research. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: ear hematoma
hematomas are usually not a big deal, and are easily lanced and drained. The only thing that is difficult with cats with hematomas is that you should place a pressure bandage on the ear, after it is packed with a roll of gauze, then tape the ear down on the roll, and wrap the head with bandages to keep pressure on it so it doesn't refill. On dogs, no problems, on cats... they think you are killing them and fight the bandages (plus their anatomy makes it difficult to bandage the head without limiting their ability to open their mouth). I would think you could place a small drain in the incision, and put a couple of stitches in it, if the vet uses a really small drain that is flexible and light, it shouldn't bother the cat too much. You'll have to keep an elizabeth collar on him until it's removed so he doesn't pull it out. The risk there is that the ear will tend to have a "deflated balloon" look as it heals. The pressure bandages help to hold the ear shape as it heals. It's possible you could use a piece of foam and ear glue with tape (like they use for newly cropped ears on dobermans) to try to save the ear shape as it heals... without the pressure bandages. The vet would have to put the drain in the back of the ear, and cut the foam to fit the inside of the ear, and glue it on, then try to wrap the tape around it without blocking the drain. I'd be willing to give it a shot, but not sure if you could convince your vet to try it (you could always just have him do the surgery and insert a drain in the back of the ear and then do the aftercare at home yourself). Chances are, you're going to end up with a wrinkled ear though. Hopefully this isn't a show cat This page shows the basic method, of course, you modify the size and shape of the foam to do this to a cat: http://www.semperfiboxers.com/semper_fi_boxers2_038.htm Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: how to unsubscribe and/or set to not get the list mail
Here are the instructions for setting your account to "no mail" on this type of list. Go to this page: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/Felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Scroll down to the bottom, and see where it has an area to enter your email address right below where it says "To unsubscribe from Felvtalk, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address" Enter your email address there, and click the button beside it that says "unsubscribe or edit options". That will take you to another page. The TOP place to enter anything on that page is for your password, enter your password there, and click the button under it that says "log in". (NOTE that if you do not know, or have forgotten your password, the option to have it mailed to you is ALSO on this page, at the bottom!) This takes you to a page that has lots of different things on it. There are headings in yellowish/tanish colored areas, look for these, the second one down on the left says "Unsubscribing from Felvtalk". You just check the "Yes, I really want to unsubscribe" checkbox, and click on the box above that where it says "Unsubscribe" Alternatively, you can STAY a member and just choose to NOT get all the email. To do this, on that same page, find the 4th row down, the one that says "Your Felvtalk Subscription Options", below that one there are areas that are darker grey, the first one says this: Mail delivery Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled. There are little checkboxes beside that, click the one that says "disabled", and then scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the button that says "submit my changes". That should be all you have to do, and you wont get any more mail after the changes go through (give it a few hours to take effect). When you come back, go to the same pages, and do the same thing, except, instead of clicking the "disabled" box, click the "Enabled" box instead, and then you will begin to get the list emails again. Hope that helps! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: ear hematoma
Here is what a typical healed hematoma ear looks like: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Fang-Heshet-NEW.jpg http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/HESHET.jpg (RIP Heshet - he was one of the FIV+ Angel Wings rescues, he's since passed on surrounded by love) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: ear hematoma
I would think that it would be possible to lightly sedate him in office, and numb the ear locally, and lance it... without general anesthesia. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: ear hematoma
Actually, sewing a large button onto it probably would work to keep it from refilling (by applying pressure across the width of the ear). It wouldn't keep it a smooth flap, but it should stop the hematoma from reoccurring. Brilliant idea, actually. I read all the books, loved them. I missed that one though. What's the title of that disk? Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Will Feral lost his nuggies today
Hard to say if tying the inner workings of the scrotum in knots would hurt less than sewing through them (it certainly SOUNDS painful, doesn't it? sorry to the guys on the list who are now all cringing), but I'm almost positive GLUE would be the least painful of the three options. Glad Will is home and feeling good though! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: New member introduction/questions
I once had a vet that scaled cat's teeth without any sedatives or anesthesia. Those vets are hard to find, and he's since retired, but it's worth calling around your area and asking about. That would be the ideal solution. You can also try brushing at home, they make special cat toothpaste and toothbrushes. Personally, I wouldn't risk putting a FELV+ cat under anesthesia for a dental, the trade off is not worth the risks, IMO. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: torbutrol - is this safe for cats?
You can use valium in cats, I have done so in the past. It is not so much a sedative as it is more of a relaxer, meaning, they don't get unconscious, they just lay around any are more floppy. I gave it to my girl kitty when she had a severe Urinary Tract Infection, it lessened her urinary spasms and allowed her to rest (rather than staying in the litterbox straining and howling non-stop). I highly recommend it for that use. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Another Name for the CLS List
I'm so sorry for your loss Leah. Phaewryn
Re: New member introduction/questions-Sally
Sour cream for the diarrhea? Does the sour cream you use say on the label " with live and active acidophilus cultures"? Most sour cream does NOT have any beneficial bacteria in it, so make sure you're feeding one that has it in there, like this one: http://organicvalley.coop/utility/faq/sour_cream_faq.html Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: New member introduction/questions-Sally
If you give me your mailing address, I'll send you a small tube of probiotics gel. I bought a box of 6, and then didn't need it (turns out it wasn't helpful for the condition my cat had). I'd rather give some of it away than to just let it sit here and expire. Come to think of it, I have several left-over medications here... I'll do an inventory tomorrow and post it, if anyone can use it, I'm happy to share, rather than to just waste it. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Faint positive tests question
It's highly possible that the ELISA tests were false positive, to be sure, run another one at a DIFFERENT vet's office (this eliminates the chance of single operator error causing the results to be wrong), and re-test on IFA to be sure. And... as for mixing him with your other cats, I would have done that anyways, even if he was positive. Your cats are vaccinated, PLUS, if they are adults, they have natural immunity. His siblings obviously have immunity if they tested positive and now test negative, so I see no reason not to mix him in with everyone else. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Finally named our Pit Bull Rescue
Wishing Nilla good luck at her vet appointment! I'm SO happy you decided to keep her, pits can be good pets when they are raised properly. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT:crying for help - serious side effect from antibiotics
Never heard of that Hideyo. But if he has neurological symptoms (wobbly, falls over, runs into things), I highly recommend the CH Kitty Club website, they have lots of tips and support for cats with balance problems. This is the one you are considering total ear abalation surgery for, right? It sounds like that may bring his quality of life back. There is an increased risk of partial facial paralysis in cats (as opposed to dogs, who get that surgery more often), but the trade off for a cat that is pain free and able to enjoy life would be worth it to me. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT:crying for help - serious side effect from antibiotics
Yeah, make sure it's Handicats2, not Handicats, we moved the group to Handicats2 because of spammers in the original group (with a missing group owner). Most of us unsubbed from the first one once we got the second one going, here's the link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ If you're on there, I haven't seen you make any posts, so make sure you just copy what you sent to this group, and send it there. It's not like this group, people don't usually talk much unless there's a topic open or someone has questions or needs help or support. (so you wont see many [if any] posts unless you start a conversation) You might even consider a partial lion cut, where they shave all of the cat except the head, neck, chest, lower legs, and the end of the tail. You could have them keep the hair halfway down both sides (extend the chest mane farther back) and opt to not trim his front half at all. http://www.thecatgallery.com/himalayan_cat_models_page_8.html is a lion cut gallery. There's a blue Persian farther down the page that has a good example of how it SHOULD look, and lots of examples of BAD lion cuts more towards the top of the page (probably what you'll end up with from the vet's office, unless the office staffs a professional groomer)) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT:crying for help - serious side effect from antibiotics
Yes, I think so. It could be that he has had to go for a while, and just couldn't make it to the box on his own, so he was holding it, and when you begin to feed him "what goes in must come out", and he HAS to go. Try placing him in the box before each feeding. You may be able to train him to "go" with a command, like dogs do. Try telling him "go potty". You can stimulate him with a warm wet washcloth on his privates while saying "go potty", in time, he may associate the command with the deed. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: urgent help-fip cat going to be pts tommorow...help!!!
No, but educating at the last minute CAN save the NEXT ONE. This is a shelter we are talking about. One kitten's death is a small price to pay if the education we offer now, at the last minute, changes the shelter's policy for the future! I'm sure this shelter has killed hundreds (if not thousands) of Corona-positive cats already by this point, before this one caring member finally found this group and the education we offer. It's never too late to educate! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home
Dry FIP often has different symptoms, commonly neurological issues, and they usually survive longer than the wet FIP victims do. Dry FIP usually presents with vague clinical signs, Like anorexia, losing weight, depression, anemia, fever, and a dull coat (sometimes with a "greasy" look). Many cats with dry FIP become jaundiced, and get various eye problems, usually the iris (the colored part of the eye around the pupil) changes color, parts of it may appear brown. The cat may bleed into the eye, or white precipitates appear on the cornea. Wet FIP usually results in organ failure, due to the nature of the disease, the organs just "seep" serum like fluid (not sure of the actual terminology off the top of my head) out into the abdomen and chest cavities, often death from wet FIP is caused by respiratory failure, combined with anemia, and other conditions caused by organs failing to perform their functions. I, personally, feel that humane euthanasia IS a valid course of action for a cat that is highly suspected of being FIP positive IF (NOTE THE IF) the cat is showing symptoms and is ill. Obviously, any cat that has been diagnosed as FIP+ MUST have clinical symptoms, otherwise it's just a Corona infection, and NOT FIP. I think euthanasia should definitely happen BEFORE the cat goes into multi-organ failure, FIP is 100% fatal, prolonging the cat's life is not buying it much quality time in the end stages of FIP. I am NOT a hard-core picket sign toting vegan no kill activist (PETA comes to mind) though, I feel that suffering needlessly is cruelty, not a humane and peaceful death. Unless you are using the cat as a test subject to try to develop new treatments for FIP (sadly, often cats MUST suffer in the name of science), then I don't think the current treatment options buy enough quality time to justify allowing the cat to suffer needlessly in advanced stages (and with wet FIP, we're talking a matter of a few weeks commonly). Hopefully, in a couple of years, I will have changed my mind on this topic, because new treatments will be produced, and enough trials will have been run to show that treatment is a viable option for symptomatic FIP cases. It would be interesting to know if this kitten's brother had wet or dry FIP, if that information is available... Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home
No offense meant. I am blunt sometimes. I don't want you to have any regrets. I hope the links help. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: [feline-cancer] some good news
That is wonderful news, yay for Asia! (and you too!) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT: cancer treatment
I have cod liver oil here already, it says flaxseed or fish oil... is that the same as cod liver oil? I did try it for Mythic's skin issues, it did NOT help (but then, nothing has so far). Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative
It's possible she was never positive to begin with. Did you test more than once, and using two different methods? Regardless, I may consider doing the week on and week off schedule for a while, slowing stretching out the off days by reducing the on days over a period of months. Of course, there's no reason to take her off of it at all, there's no HARM in giving it long term that I am aware of. It's possible her natural immunity finally kicked in now that she is an adult. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative
yes, FIV antibodies can be passed along in the milk, but she said her cat tested positive at 9 MONTHS, any momma cat that would let a kitten nurse THAT long is a brave and devoted soul, LOL! I think most maternal antibodies wear off by 6 months of age (or a couple of months after the kitten last nursed). Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Jimi Too Cool problem
Well, he's his own man, at least if that is the way he chooses to go, he had the free will and peace of choosing it. Really, I know it hurts, but you couldn't possibly give him anything more than the freedom to choose. Animals DO go off to die, but on the other hand, another member here (I think it was this group) had the same thing happen a couple of months ago, and her cat was found and didn't die (he just wanted some outside time really bad). The only other alternative is to start digging out the deck, and that will be stressful and scary for him. I would try enticing him out with tuna and other tasty cat treats, if you haven't tried it already. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
Sending happy thoughts and well wishes to Bandy... his potassium levels were not low either, right? What about a baby aspirin, just in case it's blood clot related? Just trying to think of anything that can lead to rear leg issues... And, of course, you can always syringe feed if he's being stubborn. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay
Eee Gads! Shame on your vet, I say, he COULD have sent her home and told you "sorry, the complications are too high while she is in heat, please reschedule after she is out of heat". JMO. I wonder if it is actually blood in the pee, or if she's bleeding from her vagina, and it's just mixing in with the pee as it passes through the vulva. There shouldn't be any reason for there to be blood in the urine after a spay, the bladder is not involved with the spay surgery. The only way there would be blood in the urine caused by a spay is if the vet accidentally lacerated the bladder, and had to repair it, and the repair is not holding. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood afterspay
If a HUMAN was peeing blood after a surgery, I bet no one would take the "wait and see" stance! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT: cancer treatment
My cod liver oil says: serving size 1 teaspoon Total Fat 4.5 g EPA (eicosapentaennoic acid) 554 mg DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) 369 mg Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Interferon Info (FELV & FIV tests)
There's a new DNA test for FIV, which is preferred over the old western blot now because it can tell a true positive from a vaccinated positive. Yes, the IFA is the usual confirmatory test for FELV though. Here's all the info on the FIV testing (your vet may not be aware of it yet, as it is VERY new, so print this out and take it with you): http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ccah/Homesite%20Images/Diagnostic%20PCR%20Price%20Schedule.doc (you have to scroll down quite some way to the section titled FIV DNA Testing Information.) FIV DNA Testing Information Lucy Whittier Molecular and Diagnostic Core Facility Phone: 530.752-7991 2108 Tupper Hall Fax: 530.754-6862 University of California Department of Medicine & EpidemiologyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] School of Veterinary Medicine Davis, CA 95616 Dear Clinician, Thank you for requesting information about our FIV DNA test. At this time we require 2 mL of whole blood in an EDTA (Lavender Top) Vacutainer tube, along with information outlined below. The test is offered at no charge. The PCR assay detects the viral genome directly and therefore differentiates infected from vaccinated animals. Results will be faxed to you within 48 hours upon receipt of the sample except for Friday deliveries, which will be faxed 72 hours upon receipt. Please include the following information with each sample: 1. Veterinarians name 2. Your complete mailing address 3. Your phone and fax number 4. Number of samples sent 5. Sample type 6. Species of animal 7. Type of test requested Shipping Instructions: 1. All Shipments must comply with the International Air Transport Association (IATA) Dangerous Goods regulations. Please consult the IATA website http://www.iata.org or the FedEx Dangerous Goods/Hazardous Materials Hotline at 800.463.3339 (press 81) for further information. 2. Send on ice in a Styrofoam container (no ice needed for fixed tissues) 3. Ship overnight (Do not ship on Friday) 4. Use FedEx or other express courier 5. Federal Tax Identification Number 946036494 Shipping Address: Christian Leutenegger 2108 Tupper Hall Vet Med: Medicine & Epid. Davis, CA 95616 Tel: 530.752.7991 Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Jimi Too Cool problem
If it's painful for him to eat, have you been tube feeding him? It's very important to not let them go without a certain amount for more than 2-3 days because it leads to feline hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease). Poor baby. http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/liver2.html I'm glad he's back inside now. There's a pet bed called the canine cooler, it's a dog bed, filled with gel, it's supposed to stay cool all the time, maybe Jimi would like one of those in the house. (or you could just put one of those re-freezable ice packs inside his normal cat bed, and have several to keep it cool all the time) http://www.chillow.com/cc.html Am I the only one here that finds it at least a little amusing that Jimi "Too Cool" is trying to keep COOL? LOL! It's SO CUTE! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeingblood afterspay
OMG! If I peed blood after a surgery, I would DIE of a heart attack, LOL! The blood wouldn't have to kill me, the shock would be enough! I didn't when I had my tubes tied, but that's not very invasive either I suppose. I will have to ask my mom is she peed blood after her VERY traumatic emergency hysterectomy (she was prolasping, I hope that doesn't run in the family). Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: OT...Mice invasion.
Cute! Pet mice! I worked at a feed store years ago, you know, horse feed and hay and such. Anyways, we had a store cat, he was supposed to keep the mouse population down. One day my boss was rearranging the feed stacks, and found a nest of baby mice. Neither one of us really wanted to kill them ourselves, so I went and got Thomas (the cat) and sat him right next to them and said "Look Thomas! Yummy kitty snacks!" The cat looked up at me like I had three heads and yawned, curled up beside the mice and went back to sleep. LOL! (the boss ended up killing the mice, in a feed store, you really just can't have mice, they destroy the stock too quickly) Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering
Just an update on Emily, my friend Renee's girl with breast cancer. She had a total mastectomy, they removed both mammary chains at once (sometimes they can only do one at a time due to not having enough skin to close the incisions). She'll be starting her chemo after her sutures are removed in two weeks, and the pathology report will be back at that time too. The tumor was removed at the beginning of December and it was diagnosed as Adenocarcinoma. The surgeon said he didn't see any other tumors during the mastectomy, so things are looking promising. She's REALLY cute in her t-shirt. This way she doesn't have to wear an cone (elizabethan collar): http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery.gif http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif Thanks to everyone on your positive thoughts and well wishes for her! She seems to be doing good, she has a pain patch on, and is on a course of post-surgical antibiotics. She was more active earlier, Renee thinks she may have overdone it and is now a little sore, as she is sleeping in her bed on the floor now (as opposed to climbing on the bed, etc). Renee is a member here too, BTW, she's just not come out of her shell yet enough to talk... :-) (so any replies, she will see) Phaewryn BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn NICKNAME:Phaewryn ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work TITLE:Cat Rescuer NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA X-WAB-GENDER:1 URL;HOME:http://ucat.us URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html BDAY:19750928 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20061217T043649Z END:VCARD
Re: OT - Yay, my fosters are staying with me!
Yay! Good for you Kelley! I hope you have a wonderful holiday adoption program! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Getting a kitty to eat
I highly recommend a teaspoon of Nutri-Cal or Vita-Cal twice a day. It boosts the calories, and most cats eat it by choice. You can also increase the fat in her diet by adding high fat supplements (like those made for good coats and skin) or Feline Missing Link (which I use myself with great results). http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3177&N=2002+113617 http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=2014&N=2002+113617 A digestion aid can help her to get more calories out of what she does eat too: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3391&N=2002+113753 Also consider a liquid supplement Like Cat Sure, Rebound, or Clinicare: http://www.allivet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=12070&Show=ExtInfo You wont have to get her to eat much more if you add enough calories to the amount she's already eating. I've never had a problem with mixing Missing Link or Vita-cal into the wet food, the cats LIKE the flavors, at least mine have not refused to eat it with it in there. I have a tub of a supplement called Wild Trax, it's for supplementing wild hybrid cats that get raw meat with bones as their primary food, anyways, I got it for the bengals when I did that rescue 2 years ago. Sometimes I just unscrew the lid and leave the jar open on the table, and the cats come up and lick some of it out if they want (it's a very meaty smelling powder). Like all animals, they will crave what they are missing (think a salt-mineral block for livestock). If she doesn't eat the powdered supplements, you can always syringe her the Vita-Cal mixed with the Rebound, and add a liquid vitamin supplement like Lixo-Tinic or Pet-Tinic. There's not much you can't find in the supplement world if you look hard enough. So, that's what I would do, try the Missing Link and Vita-Cal mixed into her wet food first, if she refuses it, then get the Rebound, and Pet-Tinic, and mix those with the Vita-Cal and then syringe the liquid. You can't syringe the Missing Link, it's too grainy and doesn't dissolve in liquid. I'm not sure about the digestion aid stuff, I've never used it personally. It appears that it might dissolve in liquid, and it looks crystalline in the photo. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Getting a kitty to eat
I let my Doobie cat sometimes eat the middle out of a piece of white bread, he loves it too! No ill health effects so far, of course, it's an occasional treat, not an everyday thing. It could be he's missing some nutrient found in bread, most commercially prepared breads are made using enriched flour, which means they add several vitamins and minerals to it. Could be something in there. Of course, there's also just plain weird cravings too, Doobie also LOVES marshmallows... but there's NOTHING in them he could possible be missing in his diet, LOL (unless sugar and cornstarch have something in them I'm not aware of)! I do give him the occasional mini marshmallow too. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: please add my Lizzie to CLS and prayer list
Peace and happy new beginnings to Lizzie in her journey! My condolences go out to you Hideyo. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: anyone having trouble with the list?
No problems here. BUT, if that ever does happen, you can go to settings page and reset your account if it gets shut off due to bouncing. Need that page url? Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Please add Jimi Too Cool to the CLS
I'm so very sorry for your loss. I think you made the right decision, he did sound like he was ready to go. I'm glad your vet could help you make it peaceful and loving for him. Peace to you, and well wishes for Jimi, where-ever his spirit may roam. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: anyone having trouble with the list?
Probably a router is out somewhere along the route between the list server and you, could be a storm a hundred miles away effecting the connectivity. Computers and the internet is just weird sometimes, it's a huge system, and it kind of flows like a river, if one channel gets blocked, the water flows around into a different one, but it gets delayed and sometimes things along the new channel get flooded. Since it's only effecting a few members, not everyone, it's probably not anything wrong with the list server, it's probably a router along the way somewhere. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: New cat on the block
Welcome to the list! Mr. Kitten sounds like he has a good mom. I think many vets just refuse to learn new things. Just out of curiosity, has the vet that told you to euthanise Mr. Kitten ever given him any vaccines? If so, can you tell me where he gave them (neck, scruff, side, leg)? I ask because if he's still giving vaccines in the scruff of the neck, he's obviously just someone who refuses to embrace new technology and studies and is just a bad vet for not continuing to work on his education. The most important thing is to feed the very best quality food you can afford, like Wellness, Innova, Chicken Soup, or other super-premium brands. Cat food should never contain corn or corn ingredients. After that, then you start adding general immune boosting supplements (same as you would take to boost YOUR immune system) like Vitamin C, Lysine, B Complex Vitamins, etc. Then you consider adding a FELV specific treatment, like Interferon, Acemannan, or Immunoregulin. Lots of it is just plain good nutrition, and I don't think any vet could argue with adding extra immune boosting vitamins and minerals to an animal's diet! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: add Pogo to the CLS list please & question about interferon
I'm sorry for your loss of Pogo. The cost of the interferon highly depends on the generosity of your vet. My vet bought a vial of the human Interferon-A (the stuff that you give to the cats, except BEFORE it's diluted), and made me a whole saline bag full for $20 a few years back (he froze the rest and sold it to other customers, presumably). It really shouldn't cost MUCH more than the cost of the actual vial of Interferon-A (brand names can be IntronA or Roferon-A) and the cost of the bags of saline, which, depending on what pharmacy your vet uses, will vary. My local Pharmacy says a vial of NON diluted Roferon-A (it;s a powder) goes for $208.00. Mind you that makes several BAGS of reconstituted diluted Interferon for oral use in pets. I forget now how many bags it makes, my vet said they can dilute it once, and freeze it, and then off that dilution, they make more bags full. Someone else on the list could probably tell you for sure how that works. I used to have the Island Pharmacy webpage for it but can't find it now. Here are the manufacturer websites: http://www.introna.com/introna/index.jsp http://www.rocheusa.com/products/roferon/ Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: New cat on the block
Nothing should ever be given in the neck on cats. They are prone to injection site sarcoma, in other words, a big cancerous tumor can grow in the location of any injections. Happens in every 1 in 1000 to 1 in 1 cats (studies vary on the frequency). Since you can't amputate the neck, giving it in that location equals instant death sentence for any cat that gets a sarcoma there (whereas if it's given in the lower leg, as it should be, you can amputate the leg and save the cat). But, that proves my suspicions, yes, your vet is VERY outdated and does NOT keep up with current protocols. I suggest a different vet. Ask them "Now if you were going to give my cat a vaccine, where would you administer that, in the scruff?" If they says yes, forget that vet, try again. Remember though, just because you may find one that is current on vaccination protocol, doesn't mean they will be current on FELV treatment, it's just SOMEWHERE to start. Here's the webpage on current vaccine protocols: http://www.avma.org/vafstf/sitercmnd.asp Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
You can't stick the little tip of the ear thermometer up his butt? LOL! I hope he gets past what-ever's bother him this time. Poor baby, he's had a rough past few months with the ringworm and everything else! Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
(OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusual post-neuter complications
Sorry to be off topic, but can everyone please send good vibes/glow/prayers for Whitey? He was neutered on Wednesday morning, and when I brought him home, he began to vomit and have severe diarrhea. He went back to the vet and was hospitalized overnight, and is now back home (mostly because I can't afford for him to be at the vet's office any longer). The vomiting is much better, and he is able to hold down small amounts of food at a time so long as he is not given his pain medicine (it was making his nausea worse, as when he vomited it up it made him foam at the mouth and gag terribly). Which means he's in pain, of course. I feel just terrible for him, he's so miserable! The vet did lots of testing, including a full blood panel, and it came back perfect. They said that if it were a reaction to the anesthesia, it would show something off on the blood work. He's FELV and FIV negative, and has no parasites. All the tests say he is in perfect health, yet he is really ill, and not doing good at all. I'm going to have a friend come over tomorrow and do reiki on him. The vet thinks it's probably stress, since nothing appears to be wrong physically. Please send good well wishes for him! He is such a sweet boy, and he is so miserable now. I feel so bad, I didn't want to neuter him at all! I'm going to try to get to the health food store tomorrow to get some Rescue Remedy too. He's eating good, which is a good sign, but I'm having to limit his intake, as he's only allowed 2-3 tablespoons at a time in an effort to keep him from vomiting. Anyone else had cats get violently ill after surgery like this? The vet said she's never seen this before, and it's a VERY odd reaction, especially since there's NOTHING showing up on any of the tests that is abnormal. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund&page_style=PayPal&no_shippi ng=1&cn=Message%3a&tax=0¤cy_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8 PLEASE SAVE WHITEY! BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn NICKNAME:Phaewryn ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work TITLE:Cat Rescuer NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA X-WAB-GENDER:1 URL;HOME:http://ucat.us URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html BDAY:19750928 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20061223T005913Z END:VCARD
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
Poor Bandy! Sending my very best well wishes for the poor guy! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund&page_styl e=PayPal&no_shipping=1&cn=Message%3a&tax=0¤cy_code=USD&lc=US&bn=PP%2dD onationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusualpost-neuter complications
At least there was no blood in his vomit! None in his diarrhea either, but you can tell he is suffering, he lays there on his side really stiff, and holds his back leg up, and as he gets tired, and his leg begins to fall, he growls, and tries to lick himself back there, and growls, tries to find a better position, growls more. I feel SO BAD! I tried to prop his leg up on a pillow, but he wouldn't let me. I think I'm going to put an ice pack under his bedding, so if he wants to he can ice his butt. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusualpost-neuter complications
He's sitting directly on the ice pack I put in there, so I think he appreciates the ice pack! Poor baby! I know when I had surgery an ice pack was the only thing that gave me any relief for the first two days. I imagine a neutering would be similarly painful. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusual post-neuter complications
Well, he came home at around 6PM, and it's now almost 9:30PM, and he's eaten two batches of food, the first one was about two tablespoons, with about 8 kibbles of dry mixed in at around 7pm, and at 9pm I had to give him half a pill, and I hid it in a tablespoon of wet food, and he gobbled that right down. He is sitting on that ice pack, and I've heard no growling since I put it in there, so I think it's helping. They said to give him a couple of tablespoons every hour or two, and if he's holding it all down by tomorrow, I can start to give him more a little at a time. Oh, as I was typing, he just cleaned himself back there, and he wasn't growling! Yay, the ice is helping! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusual post-neuter complications
He seems much better today, he's sleeping comfortably in his cage now. I tried to hide his pill in his food this morning though, and he didn't eat it, so now I'm not sure what to do there. I think I'm going to just scoop that little blob of food up out of his bowl and push it into his mouth with my fingers and see if he swallows it. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes for Whitey, unusual post-neuter complications
He's eating low residue canned food, with a few kibbles mixed in. He seems to be feeling a little worse now, as he didn't woof down his food like he was yesterday... or maybe he's just not very hungry. He was sleeping in his litterbox earlier. I took a couple of new pictures of him just now (borrowed a camera today from my boss), if anyone wants to see them email me directly and I'll attach them to my reply. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
Sending healing vibes out for Bandy, I'm sure the vet techs will take good care of him, and he needed the fluids, so you made the right choice by taking him in to the hospital. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund
How's Bandy doing?
Any news on Bandy? Is he still in the hospital? Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html
Re: Meowy Christmas
Same to you! And happy whatever to the others who don't do xmas on the list (we do both solstice and xmas here, we party and do ritual on solstice and we gift exchange and eat fancy food on xmas)! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html
Re: How's Bandy doing?
Aww, poor baby. I do hope that someone is there 24/7 at your vet's clinic. I don't think I would leave him somewhere where no-one was there to check up on him. If that's the case, there should be an emergency clinic somewhere that you could take him to where he would be watched. He seems too sick to just be left unattended. Poor Bandy. It's just so many things piled on top of each other, it's like his body is his own worst enemy. I'm pulling for him, as always. I do hope he takes a turn for the better really quickly, as he sounds like he is extremely miserable right now. Maybe keeping him sedated is the kindest thing right now. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Bandy is an angel now
Bandy was such a fighter, and such an inspiration over the years. The lessons he taught us all will never be forgotten, and he served a higher purpose, I believe, having taught SO MANY of us what hope beyond hope is. Time and time again, he would rally for another round at life. His final gift? Teaching us when it is time to let go. May he find his way to the higher place he deserves to go to, for all the good he has given to use over the years. Peace to Bandy, may he always be with us in spirit! Peace to you as well Kerry, I know he was a much loved boy, and he passed knowing your love all around him. he could not have asked for anything more. He was blessed, and we were all blessed to have known him. I am, understandably, in tears as I write this. I'm going to try to be at the pet loss chat tonight, please consider dropping in Kerry! Pet-loss-and-support chats tonight at 9-10ET, at http://chat.pethobbyist.com/login.php?room_name=Haven+-+Pet+Loss+Support I don't think Belinda is online tonight, so he probably wont technically be on tonight's CLS, but I will add him to my wishes regardless. http://www.bemikitties.com/cls/ Phaewryn
Re: Tiny passed
I'm so very sorry for your loss Sally, it sounds so scary and distressing! Sending peaceful wishes for Tiny. I will add him to the CLS on my end tonight when I do it. Phaewryn
Re: Tiny passed
That could have been what it was, clots can do that, and it is quick. I feel so bad for you, and I apologize if I seemed rude in loss chat, I am a bit extroverted in chat. You do have my most sincere condolences though Sally! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Constipated Kitty
My cat takes lactulose to stay soft. he has a narrow pelvis and is prone to blockages. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: loose stools (Ember)
Maybe an electrolyte imbalance of some kind? Just a thought, I really don't know. My first thought was stress, but if you are sure it's not stress, I don't know. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it?
I'll be sending thoughts of health and high spirits to Missy for you Kelley. You just have to know that you are giving her the best life you can provide while she is with you, and know that SHE KNOWS THAT, and believe that even if her time is short, the QUALITY is more important than the QUANTITY, and you and her can reach a understanding that even if she leaves you while you are not at home, she enjoyed EVERY minute of her life up until that time, because of the life you offered to her, in your home, and surrounded by your love! Everyone's time on earth is limited, and we really can't control when we leave or how long we stay, it's THIS MOMENT we live in, and that is the time we need to concentrate on and cherish, because we can't control the future, and we can't change the past. In this very moment, WE have total control of who we are, and how we feel, and being true to what you believe in right now is the only way to truly find the inner peace to be able to continue on as we must do. Animals do this naturally, it's we humans that have lost the ability to cherish each moment, and it's something we should strive to regain, because it's the key to true happiness and joy. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it?
Oh, she is beautiful! And she has the same little dainty nose and smaller eye that my Moogie had. She looks a lot like her, except the coat color! Just cherish each moment you have, and let tomorrow bring tomorrow, one moment at a time, and don't stress out about the things you cannot control. The hardest part of being human are the concepts of time we invented, ever since we put numbers to the moments of our lives, we've been struggling to harness control over them. There are some things you just can't control, time is the biggest one! Life is not math, you can't solve it, it's an equation with too many variables. Some things are better left unanswered. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: pet-loss chat reminder
sorry about that... perhaps I will stick to email, where there is more time to re-read and self-edit. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it?
nothing wrong with chanting it's kind of like an Affirmation, except it's accomplished by the nature of rhythm and repetition, as opposed to focus and meditation. Most cats love to be sung to, and love it when you sing-song their names into rhymes, so I would think they would really be happy with chanting. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it? (BP in cats)
does sodium effect BP in cats like it does in humans? does he eat any sodium (salt) in the diet you feed? Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
To be fair, I did not knowingly mix my non-vaccinated negatives with a known positive. I did not test for many years, and didn't KNOW Moogie was positive. Regardless, none of the non-vaccinated cats contracted the FELV, even with mutual grooming happening all the time. That was 18 months of exposure to FELV to all my non-vaccinated cats, NO transmission. Would I do it again? Probably not with my newer cats that haven't already been exposed and thus proven naturally immune. Would I put the same cats that lived with Moogie in with another FELV+, yes, sure I would, they have proven themselves long since immune. So, it's not really "bravery" on my part, mixing non-vaccinated cats with FELV+ cats, more of a result of lack of knowledge on my part that fortunately worked out in the end. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it?
Barbara, I think you did the absolute right thing, and SHAME on your mother for even thinking of throwing guilt around like that. I think it's terrible that someone who is supposed to love you and support you by default would even consider being so thoughtless and MEAN to even suggest that you deserve to be in your situation. I say, keep your chin up, and be proud you turned out to be such a good person with an example like THAT to look up to! I hope that your kind and generous heart and loving attitude passes on to your children and the chain of guilt stops in your shoes in your family line. I honor you for your choices, and your willpower to take the higher road in life! Good for you! Most people, including my family, think my husband and I are crazy for taking in strays, especially now this has happened (my own mother now is implying a sort of, "Serves you right" when I talk to her). But, how could we have left those poor 5 month old kittens to die? They were living in a storage shed, and they were being cared for by the employees; but some of them abused the cats. We still think we did the right thing, despite what's happened. We do it because we love cats, and have been accused of being too soft-hearted (I've been called worse things!). I'd rather err on the side of kindness, if I had to go to an extreme. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Long post..Tiny and Junior's stories
It feels better to tell their stories doesn't it? Your story was nice, and it sounds like you've opened your heart to compassion often over the years. Tiny had a good life with you, surrounded with love. You did everything right, and you shouldn't have any remorse. I do hope time brings you peace. In time your broken heart will ache less, and only a small tear will well up in the corner of your eye as you recall all of the GOOD times with Tiny. Time doesn't really heal, like so many people say, but it does ease the intense pain one feels so close to a loss. There's a whole process to grieving, there's the intense pain and suffering, then time smoothes it over eventually, and there's guilt, because you feel bad that you're NOT still in such intense pain, because you think you should be; then there's acceptance, where you realize that it's ok to let go of the suffering, and instead recall the memories. But they are always with you, forever, and of course, that's the way we want it. I'm sorry for your loss Sally. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Mr. Spock & L'il Abner
aww, that one of them cuddling together is really sweet. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: How do yall do it?
I have a very nice "lap fungus" kitty here just now. They do happen occasionally. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Odd Behavior
Gas maybe? Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: New Member
Welcome to the group Jo. Your story is not uncommon in the group, I think several people have joined over the years because they became parents to a FELV+ litter of kittens. Sounds like you are doing really well with them. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: SNAP test faint positive, queen, 5 kittens
1) How much danger of contracting the virus are my cats in (they received their last feleuk vaccine in late October)? Little to none. Adult healthy cats are naturally immune to FELV in most cases, plus yours were recently vaccinated with a vaccine that is 85% effective, so I'd say you are fairly safe. If you're worried, have them all tested. 2) How likely is it that the queen is actually positive? (From the research I have done so far, it appears that this is likely an exposure positive, and her body may well fight it off, but then again any possible exposure was more than three months ago, heading on four months, so I don't really see how it can be an exposure positive). I would run another SNAP ELISA test asap, as operator error accounts for a high rate of inaccurate results. It could have been a bad test, it could have been a bad testing procedure, it could be anything, but false results are known to happen with that kind of test. If she re-tests positive again right away, THEN wait a month (or two even) and retest again, and confirm with an IFA at the same time. You are using BLOOD, right? Go to a different batch of test kits, if you can, to retest, that would eliminate the likelihood of it being a bad batch of kits, and have a different vet or vet tech run the test, that would reduce the chance of a bad procedure IF they last test was inaccurate due to human error. 3) Is there any point to doing an IFA test now, rather than waiting a month? Sure, it can't hurt, so if you have the money, I would. That would confirm the SNAP result, at least. 4) If the queen is positive, how likely is it that the kittens will also turn positive? At this point, if they are weaned and have tested negative, it's unlikely they will ever be positive. 5) What is the correct process for determining if they are positive, as in what length of time from their last possible exposure until a reliable test can be given. Retest with IFA at least 3 months after last exposure, the retest SNAP at 6 months po st-exposure, and again with IFA when-ever they turn 1 year old. That would rule out any shadow of a doubt. 6) Is there any point at all in locking the kittens up until we are sure of their status (they are blossoming after just a few days and I am unenthused about this)? No, I don't think so. They have already been mixed, any exposure has already happened, plus, they are negative anyways and probably will stay that way. Let them be kittens. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Tiny
Sally, there's no specific question in your post to be answered, that's why I didn't reply to it the first time it was posted (there's actually not a single question mark in the entire post). What is it you are specifically wanting to know or get feedback on? I'll take a stab at it anyways: I'm glad comcast fixed your internet problems. Yes, cats do choose us, certainly much more than we choose them. I do think that focusing on Junior should be a priority, but don't forget to watch everybody. It's easy to get tunnel-vision and focus on the ONE cat we think is weaker one, and miss something in another cat because we narrowed our focus. The low-dose interferon they use for FIV is the same treatment as is used for FELV, and that's posted on our main website at http://felineleukemia.org on the treatments page. I'm sorry you can't afford your old vet anymore, perhaps pointing out that fact would be beneficial to both of you; you may get a discount as an "original client", and he might feel humbled enough to realize that he's alienating his old clients by his new found glory. My FELV+ cat was constantly groomed by another of my cats, and he NEVER caught the FELV from her, so just because they lick and bite each other doesn't mean they will contaminate each other with FELV. As far as your cats' previous felv vaccinations, health, and history goes, it certainly wouldn't hurt to have them all tested again, that way you could treat the felv and/or fiv positive ones with Interferon and keep an extra-close eye on them. I do think you should be treating the FELV+ ones that you already know about, if you aren't already. I'm sure Daisy just happens to have a really good immune system, and is healthy. I don't think it's a mystery, she's just been lucky and blessed with a good immune system. You can boost the other's immune systems by feeding good quality food, and supplementing with vitamin C and a good general multi-vitamin/mineral supplement (and giving Interferon to the FELV+ ones). Oh, and I'm sorry for your loss of Lionel and Pumpkin too! Is that kinda what you were looking for? Phaewryn Comcast came into the neighborhood and fixed whatever the problem was with the connection here. I was barely about to get a couple of emails out. For the past couple days I have cried, and reflected on my time with Tiny. Tiny was definitely my cat or more realistically I was his human. He chose me and that was very special. I am so glad he came to live with me. I will always wonder if I did this or that would the outcome have been different. Probably not and besides I cannot change what has happened. I now have to focus on Junior. I spoke to Beth at work today. She used to be a vet's tech. Her cat was diagnosed FIV. Well she was prepared to euthanize the cat. He was elderly however the vet knowing she did not want to do this tried an experimental procedure. I never could find out what it was other than it was interferon. Today her husband stopped by and described the procedure. It was low dose oral administration of interferon. She said the cat became almost kitten-like and asymptomatic. The cat later developed oral cancer and was put down, he was 18 years old. Now that I have this information, I will have my vet Dr Staunton call her vet Dr Elam to get the information. I already gave Dr Staunton the Italian study paper to read. I was told she took it home that day to read. Dr Elam used to be my family's vet for many years. I cannot afford him these days as he is the highest priced vet in town. It is funny, because he started out as a farm animal vet and was very reasonable. I still see him occasionally in the grocery store. I am thankful I was able to spend time with Tiny during his last hour here on earth. When I lost my Fluff Last February, I was able to spend time with him because I had a few days of vacation I had to use up. I knew Fluffy was declining and I was so lucky then to have spent his last week on earth with him. I did not know at the time that would be the end for him. He was the alpha cat and he trained all my cats on proper cat behavior. Although Ittle Bitty was Tiny's best friend and he trained Tiny in the art of lick and bite. Fluffy had trained Ittle Bitty.and so it goes. Just an observation. I have heard that older cats most likely have some immunity to FeLV. I also have read vaccines are most likely effective longer than stated. he is what I know about my cats. Spike age 10 tested negative - likely to have been vaccinated once for FELV and other diseases Speedy age 8 tested negative- likely to have been vaccinated once for FELV and other diseases Ittle Bitty age 7 tested negative -likely to have been vaccinated once for FELV and other diseases Little Black - age 5 she is not social at all with the other cats she is strictly outside and eats on her own. Grey and white- age 4 same mom as Junior, from a different litter.. also had less interaction with the sick cats this summer the exposure wa
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Welcome to the world of Owner Surrenders! What one says is certainly usually NOT what one gets! It's common for a "sweet kitty with no problems" to actually arrive to you as "kitty from hell about to gouge out your eyeballs in a fit of rage". That being said, you do sometimes get a cat in that really was a good cat in it's own home, and is just so totally freaked out by the change and new surroundings and strangers that it will just freak out and seem completely feral. My suggestion is to keep her as you are, in a smaller room, and give her lots of hiding places, like boxes nested inside each other, baskets, and a kennel with an open door (or the door removed). When you are in with her, move very slowly; NEVER make eye contact, always keep your shoulders angled away from her, never face her straight on, as that is threatening body language. When you HAVE to look at her, squint your eyes, but keep your face relaxed, as narrowed eyes are a sign of friendliness in cats. Don't try to approach her or touch her. Sit down on the other side of the room and don't face her, but sit in there quietly while she eats, just so she gets used to your presence. Move slowly, be quiet while you are in her room. She may come around. Or maybe not, and the owner might have completely made up the fact that she is tame, just so you would take her. It happens. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I wouldn't take it too personally. She probably knew the "friend" already, where you are a total stranger. Up til now, her entire life experience with strangers has likely been limited to vets and vet techs, none of which do anything even remotely nice to her (in her opinion). She probably knows she has been "replaced" by this man as well, and is going through at least a little self-doubt as to her self-worth. It's hard to be considered trash and not be at least a little hurt and defensive about it. Give her time and patience, and realize that if you continually show her love, she may eventually begin to show it back to you. Phaewryn Her story is the dreaded moving in with the allergic boyfriend one. She didn't even bring her over - a friend of hers did. So Charlotte was clearly tame enough for the friend to get into a carrier (which is more than I could do at this point). Charlotte didn't go ballistic until she saw me...lol.
Re: sorry
It's my belief that one single vaccination provides immunity for life. However, I am in the minority there. That being said, none of my cats have contracted any contagious viruses or diseases either. The interferon certainly would not hurt the eye, but I'm not sure if it would help either. I've been lucky in that I've never had a cat with uveitis. Others on the list have though, so you should ask that question on the list (and thus I have copied this reply back to the list). I have had a cat with herpesvirus (which also effects the eye) and I do know good treatments for that, but they probably wouldn't be the same for uveitis. Here is a good webpage that may help though: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm Here's one that lists several eye issues, uveitis being fairly far down the page: http://sacs.vetmed.ufl.edu/Ophtho/Feline/Feline.htm It appears from what I've read that uveitis can be caused by FELV in some way (though the exact pathology is not given), so in theory, if you treat the FELV to improve the immune system, then it SHOULD improve the uveitis systematically. So, it's possible that the Interferon could help, but it would be indirectly. Oh wow, I did another search and turned this up, which is VERY interesting (note that part is CANINE, scroll down to FELINE section): http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00526.htm This states (see the bold parts in particular, if you get this in rich or html email format): Etiologies And Syndromes Associated With Feline Uveitis Viral Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FIP) - This disease is caused by a coronavirus that more often affects young animals. The ocular lesion that it causes is pyogranulomatous inflammation of the uveal tract with necrotizing vasculitis. Both the anterior and posterior uvea may be affected, but the anterior lesions are more visible, clinically. Signs seen are aqueous flare, hypopyon, fibrin, and keratic precipitates. Corneal edema may also be seen, which is proportionate to the degree of inflammation. Posteriorly, there is pyogranulomatous chorioretinitis and retinal vasculitis, manifesting as retinal detachment due to choroidal exudation, as well as optic neuritis and perivascular exudates. Histologically, there may be lymphocytes, plasma cells, monocytes, leukocytes and macrophages in varying numbers. Feline Immunodeficiency virus (FIV) - FIV is a lentivirus, causing a persistent immunodeficiency. Ocular lesions seen most commonly with FIV infection are aqueous flare, iridal hyperemia, posterior synechiae, and cataracts. Also, white punctate, cellular infiltrates may be seen in the anterior vitreous. Histologically, there may be a lymphocytic-plasmacytic perivascular uveal infiltrate. Fungal Histoplasmosis - The organism responsible is Histoplasma capsulatum which is indigenous to the midwestern and southern US. The organism gains access to the body via the respiratory tract, causing nonclinical infections. The organism then gets into the systemic circulation, crossing the blood-ocular barrier. Ocular lesions noted are aqueous flare and inflammatory cells in the aqueous humor, granulomatous chorioretinitis and optic neuritis. Histologically, inflammatory infiltrates consist of lymphocytes, plasma cells, and macrophages. Blastomycosis - This is a very rare condition in cats, as compared to dogs. It occurs mainly in the eastern US by the organism, B. dermatitidis. Like Histoplasma, it gains entry into the body via the respiratory tract, and then, eventually, entering the systemic circulation, and crossing the blood-ocular barrier. The main lesion is a granulomatous chorioretinitis. Histologically, there is pyogranulomatous inflammation with large numbers of organisms in the choroid and subretinal space, consisting of macrophages, neutrophils, and lymphocytes. Cryptococcosis - This is the most common infectious mycoses of cats, although it is still rather rare. Again, it enters the body through the respiratory system. The choroid is mainly affected, but the anterior segmen t may become inflamed as well. Clinical signs of the anterior chamber include hyphema, fibrin, and posterior synechiae formation. Organisms are rarely seen in the anterior chamber. Posterior signs include choroidal inflammation with secondary exudative retinal detachment and subretinal granuloma formation. Histologic evaluations show lymphocytic-plasmacytic infiltrates in the uveal tissue with Cryptococcal organisms in the choroid, subretinal spaces and vitreous cavity. Coccidioidomycosis - This is the least common intraocular fungal infection of cats. Clinical signs include fibrin in the anterior chamber, iridal swelling, posterior synechiae and small, cotton-like masses located in the anterior chamber. Histology shows diffuse granulomatous inflammation of the anterior and posterior uvea, with organisms possibly seen in the inflammatory tissue. Candidiasis - Candida albicans is the organism that causes infec
Re: strange bald spot
Have you ever used any "top-spot" flea drops on her at that location? Has she had any vaccines, shots, or microchips at that location? It's probably nothing, but ofcourse, once you rule out a reaction to either a chemical or trauma from a cut, poke or abrasion, that leaves the possibility of ringworm. You would need to have your vet look at it under a special light and take a skin scraping to know for sure. Tang has a bald spot over his microchip, it never grows hair, plus it bothers him. Thus, none of my cats will ever have microchips. My vet says it's not anything to worry about, so I don't, but I do sometimes forget and rub my hand down his side and if I touch it he gets irritated with me. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Cats know your sentiments better than you think....
LOL! Mine usually EAT the bills, or shred them; they save their pee for GOOD things, like the occasional dirty shirt that finds it's way to the floor, or anyone's house slipper. Phaewryn
VA: "Big Guy" FeLV+ tabby ISO loving home (transport available)
ADOPTION CONTACT: Shadow Cat Advocates, Inc. Stafford, VA 540-720-1042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing address: PO Box 514 Garrisonville, VA 22463 TRANSPORT CONTACT (to help with transport if you can't adopt but could help get him transported): [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. VA: "Big Guy" FeLV+ tabby ISO loving home Posted by: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] darnot258 Date: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:42 pm ((PST)) Please contact me if you can help Big Guy! I will coordinate transport. Check out the link to see how handsome he is! http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=7516388 forwarded message: > Hi Denise, > I got your name and e-mail address from Cathy of FCRT. We have one of the > sweetest kitties we have ever run across, who naturally tested positive for > feline leukemia, and he is in need of a good home. He is otherwise healthy and > extremely friendly. He is a brown tabby with huge green eyes and a super > sweet disposition who loves humans and other cats. We will be happy to > transport him. > > My group does TNR of feral cats, and we caught him a while back at one of > our feeding stations. He was taken to a clinic in Richmond where he was > neutered, but they don't do combo testing there. As he was recovering from his > surgery, we determined that he was probably an abandoned cat, rather than a > feral. He is just the sweetest guy who appreciates everything you do for him. > We gave him a little cat bed and he immediately jumped into it and you would > think he was given the best thing ever. He crouches down in it and jumps out > to play with you, then jumps back into the bed. He crawls up into your lap, > loves to be petted, and purrs up a storm. We think he is about two years old > and still very playful. When we realized how friendly he was, we decided he > could not be taken back to where he was caught, but would be placed up for > adoption. When we took him to our vet for a checkup, he was tested for > FeLV/FIV, and he came back positive for FeLV. We know that he would make a good > companion pet, and would love to get him into a good home. > > I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide to find Big Guy a home! > Thank you so much, > Cari Bartz > Shadow Cat Advocates > sca.petfinder.com > BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn NICKNAME:Phaewryn ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work TITLE:Cat Rescuer NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA X-WAB-GENDER:1 URL;HOME:http://ucat.us URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html BDAY:19750928 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20061230T174119Z END:VCARD
Re: Sorry
we do have a fund not sure of the balance in it just now. It's saved me in the past. Belinda would be the one to contact I think... And don't forget that signature you see below my name, it WORKS. Put a signature line in your emails that tells his story and asks for help. You never know where it will come from! There's also Care Credit, and other help groups. You can find those at this page (below the VT low cost clinic info): http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Just so you guys know, Whitey is doing good, and I paid off the balance of his vet bill yesterday! It was $300 and something total. But he's all better now! Thanks again to Kayte and Lance for their generous donations for his care, without you guys he would still be outside in the cold! Oh, and Tang may have an adoptive home. I'm in touch with someone that is interested in him. We are in the process of arranging a home visit and for her to meet him now. So Yay! If Tang gets adopted I would have ROOM for Whitey to stay as long as needed to find a home! Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
