Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

[dana giordano]

I did too - Do you recall the link where the info came from?



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
> information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
>
> You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
> box.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
> > Dear Reader,
> >
> > Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
> >
> > It's for your own good.
> >
> > You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least according
> to
> > the Einsteins at the FDA.
> >
> > Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
> > unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
> >
> > Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
> Heart
> > healthy, of course!
> >
> > Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> insanity.
> >
> > ---
> > Over-the-counter cherries
> > ---
> >
> > Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components. The
> > scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when owners
> of
> > cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
> > evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims "cause your products to be
> drugs."
> >
> > Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their cherries
> for
> > approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
> >
> > Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
> >
> > Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21
> million
> > to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
> > DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, "help
> regulate
> > your digestive system...naturally."
> >
> > That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living cultures
> in
> > probiotics.
> >
> > But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that "Activia
> provided
> > consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals."
> > Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended up
> > costing Dannon millions.
> >
> > And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
> walnuts.
> >
> > They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies showing
> > heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such claims
> on
> > the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
> > classified walnuts as drugs.
> >
> > Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
> > seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
> their
> > products...
> >
> > "You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
> > snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
> > essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
> packed
> > with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
> > bones, teeth, nerves and muscles."
> >
> > Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before the
> > processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
> >
> > "Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
> > polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and LDL
> > 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
> > support a healthy heart."
> >
> > So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
> you
> > CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
> > potato chips cooked in soybean oil "can support a healthy heart."
> >
> > That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
> > headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.
> >
> > As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
> > insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government.
> >
> > Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about Science
> > Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement makers
> > state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
> evidence.
> >
> >
> > You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives and
> > senators through "Thomas," a Library of Congress website (
> > www.thomas.loc.gov ).
> >
> > Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
> > regulations that withhold essential health information and cause
> companies
> > and growers to spend millions defending ridiculous charges.
> >
> > I mean, really...aren't there other "unapproved drugs" that are currently
> > putting us at greater risk than walnuts and cherries???
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[Felvtalk] foster needed for lonely FeLV cat and/or non felv cat - philadelphia area

[dana giordano]

Hi all, This came across a rescue list I am on, and I wanted to pass it on.
The lady had a fire, and is waiting for her house to be rebuilt. It took
longer than expected, and two of her foster volunteers could not extend.

If you or anyone you know might be interested, please don't hesitate to
contact Susan at susani...@msn.com or 215-435-5273. Thanks so much!


*From: *Susan Finkelstein 
*Date: *November 30, 2011 10:54:31 PM EST
*Subject: **[UCNeighbors] Fire Cats in need of short-term fostering*

Hi, all! A couple of months ago, some friends had posted a note for me on
this list after we suffered a terrible house fire over at Springfield and
St. Bernard. It was a call for help placing my cats who had survived the
fire (sadly, we lost a third recently due to complications from the event)
in temporary foster homes. The response was wonderful: I managed to place 8
cats in 8 separate foster homes: a minor miracle for anyone who has ever
tried to find foster homes for animals. It was a huge relief for me, amid
all the chaos and grief and stress surrounding the fire and the ensuing
issues.

Needless to say, our house is nowhere near on the schedule for
reconstruction originally given to us by the contractors (wrangling with
the insurance and mortgage companies mostly to blame). As a result, I am
now faced with needing to find new foster homes for two cats within the
next week or so (of course, our house is nowhere near the completion date
that the contractors originally gave us), and was wondering if you might
know of any folks who would be willing to take a cat in for something like
4-6 weeks.

Habib, a 13-year-old neutered fat "creamsicle" cat (I call him that because
he is orange and white), is very funny, friendly, and talkative, and his
current foster parents love him, but have obligations to be away come
mid-December and cannot continue to care for him. Martini is an orange
tabby, neutered, about 6 years old, but FeLV positive. He has NEVER
exhibited any signs of illness (he was minutes away from euthanasia as a
tiny kitten in the ER at the Penn Vet Hospital, where I worked, when I
whisked him home), so he appears to be a carrier of the virus, but it would
be best for him to be in a home without other cats, or maybe with other
cats who also have tested positive. Currently, he is sequestered in one
room in a neighbor's house (due to another resident cat), and cries a lot,
and is very lonely. It breaks my heart. He is a true people cat and seems
very depressed without human companionship.

If you or anyone you know might be interested, please don't hesitate to
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[Felvtalk] cat from hell tv series on discovery channel

[dana giordano]

Haven't seen this before so might becoming late to the party, but it's a tv
show on cat behavior issue hosted by the owner of spirit essences. Thought
y'all might be interested

http://animal.discovery.com/tv/my-cat-from-hell/
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[Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

[dana giordano]

Just info on the caboodle ranch issue:

This place gets a lot of media attention and volunteers.

Personally, while he's not perfect, he was not alone in this work, so it
seems at least worth it to consider he got steamrolled.

I've been reading about it and it really seems like it may have been part
of an overall political move by PETA (who tends to kill animals, not save
them - check their stats.)

PETA apparently wants to stop the bill that will allow rescues to pull the
animals slated to die from the county shelter and is using this issue as a
platform. ASPCA was involved but I think PETA was pretty much running that
show. And if there is one org I do NOT trust it is PETA. (So now you know
where my bias is.)


Anyway, If you're interested in reading more:

http://blogs.catster.com/the-cats-meow-a-cat-and-kitten-blog/caboodle-ranch-the-other-side-of-the-story/2012/03/05/


http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-03-02/story/embattled-caboodle-ranch-operator-says-confiscated-records-detail-his


If you want to support the guy, there is a Caboodle Ranch petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/free-craig-grant-and-open-caboodle-ranch-free-craig-grant-and-open-caboodle-ranch?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=autopublish#


I hope the cats will end up in a safe place and not euthed. Remember, more
than anything, it is the cats who now are in bigger danger now, then they
were at the ranch.
Also - consider how many times TNR's put domestic cats back on the street
if there were feeders? (I'm not one of them, but consider that, before
condemning the guy.)

This is a sad story. I hope we hear better news for all the animals
involved.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: caboodle ranch (pet-abuse.com DNA national website)

[dana giordano]

There is: I found one database that seems amazing but it's suprising how
often people don't know about it and just uselessly circulate DNR's on
lists:   It's called http://www.pet-abuse.com/




On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:36 PM,  wrote:

> P>S>  Those who dump animals should never be allowed to hve another
> animal.  There should be a list circlated nationwide for humane societies
> and rescues.  As for thosewho dump children or abuse them, they should be
> spayed or neutered so they can never have another child to  inflict pain
> and suffering on.
>
>  dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> > You mention "people abuser".  I was told by an investigator for the
> humane society that wen he is called to ivestigate animal abus, 9 times out
> of 10 he also reports child buse.  I AM NOT SAYING GRANT IS THAT, BUT
> PEOPLE WHO "DUMP" THEIR ANIMALS WULD FIT INTO THAT CATAGORY.  THEY HAD A
> CHILD BUT NOW IT IS TOO MUCH TROUBLE SO THEY ABUSE AND EVEN DUMP THEM ON
> THE ROADSIDE OR SEND THEM TO GREYHOUND BUS TERMINAL WTH A NOTE SAYING THEY
> CAN NO LONGER COPE WITH THE CHILD, PLEASE SEND TO BAPTIST CHILDREN'SHOME.
>  I just wish I could also adopt the abused, unwanted children and give them
> a good home with lots of cats and dogs to teach them the meaning of love.
>  Then all could learn to love and be loved and be happy.  THAT IS MY SERMON
> FOR THE DAY.
>
>
>  Marta Gasper  wrote:
> > < invisible, to start paying the piperwho are virtually invisible, to start
> paying the piper.>>
>
> Amen two..there should be a way to catch them, and if possible then once
> that dumping is stopped lets see how many true hoarders_and there are_
> remain.
> Justice would be served that way. But it is not possible, somebody should
> invent a device to catch them..or something. We can just preach for now
> **don't dump, you are not only putting your pet(or your foundling)life in
> jeopardy but are hurting the good person behind that fence. Right now you
> are a peoples abuser even if you don't realize it and if you don't now you
> do. People will go to jail and have their lives ruined b/c of your actions
> and the cat/dog you left might even die.**
> Lets grab the dumper's conscience and hardwire with that statement so they
> can hear it the rest of their lives..ppl walk away satisfied now the fur
> they left will be taken care of and they found a good solution to their
> problem, lets change that playback(and some of this people won't take the
> animal to a Humane Society because "it'll be put down"..Yes it can happen,
> but know the outcome from your dumping is not very different plus there's a
> persons reputation and all the animals she tried so hard so to save at
> stake now too..deal with it!!(I've seen that and it males so angry)
> Marta
>
>
>
>
>
> It's time for the dumpers, who are virtually invisible, to start paying
> the piper. And the people who TRULY have good intentions to stop being
> persecuted.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

[Dana Giordano]

I feed mine on the ground inside a bin which I have cut out the sides of so 
they can pass through. I lean boards up   Against the sides. It's low perfect 
for a cat and opossums but apparently too low and awkward for a raccoon to get 
in there. I put a large deep square plastic food bin inside and a piece of 
styrofoam on the floor inside to wedge the food bin into one place. Opossums 
and cats get along fine so I let them share. My main issues end up being ants 
and slugs which I use food grade diacetemous earth and sandpaper to deter. I 
also have a rope light out there - dunno if that deters so wanted to mention 
it. Hope that helps.



On May 29, 2012, at 10:16 AM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:

> They are and they are a royal pain.  
> On May 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Beth wrote:
> 
>> I have the same problem with opossums. I have started feeding the ferals in 
>> a different place & putting dry food out for the Opossums. Also I feed the 
>> ferals during the day & the Opossums eat at night. I'm not sure if raccoons 
>> are nocturnal like opossums
>>  
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>  
>> 
>> From: dot winkler 
>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
>> 
>> Hi there - anyone out there - does anyone know how to construct or how to 
>> keep raccoon out of an outdoor cat colony dry feeder?  I am feeding 7 
>> outdoor cats and now there is a raccoon in the area eating all the dry food 
>> every night in the dry food feeding station.  I feed the cats by day some 
>> meat and throw away the plates when done.  But the dry food is a staple food 
>> for them which they need to supplement the one feeding I give.  Also, in 
>> case I can't get there to feed them.  Any suggestions?  I have seen some 
>> constructions on line but the cats have to jump up to get into them and 
>> there is one older cat I don't think he can jump up into anything!  Please 
>> let me know.  I know this has nothing to do with leukemia, but it does have 
>> to do with helping cats.  Dotty - Freehold, NJ
>> 
>> 
>> From: Maureen Olvey 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
>> 
>> Had to send this again because it bounced back the first time.  I hate it 
>> when it does that.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> From: molvey...@hotmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:40:59 -0400
>> 
>> Ha, ha - I love it!!!  You sound as pissed off as I was.  Believe me he is 
>> on my shitlist too.  I was boiling about it for days.  Matter of fact I was 
>> just telling my co-worker about him this morning and I got pissed off again 
>> thinking about it.
>> 
>> I guess he just wanted me to take her home and watch her die.  I don't know. 
>>  He never did go as far as to say that exactly because I said I wanted him 
>> to give her fluids and do a blood test and then e-mail this other vet so I 
>> could get this experimental drug for dry form of FIP.  I didn't give him a 
>> chance to send me away with nothing.  Course, at the time other than the 
>> fever she was doing okay.  Although she was wobbly on her back legs she was 
>> still eating and everything although she had lost some weight.  So she 
>> wasn't in any pain.  But I think with a temperature of 104 he would have 
>> wanted to do something about that anyway.  The thing is that like 
>> toxoplasmosis shows the same symptoms as the dry form of FIP and if it was 
>> that it could be treated with some antibiotics that aren't even that 
>> expensive.  He's such a dumbass.  I didn't know that the symptoms were the 
>> same until a couple days later and when I asked him about it he said he had 
>> thought about it when he was looking at her.  So if he thought about it and 
>> didn't suggest a test for it then he didn't care.  He figured with FeLV 
>> she's going to die sooner or later so why spend money doing any kind of 
>> tests or treatments on her.  I'm surprised he didn't suggest killing her.  
>> BTW - it's not euthanization unless it's to end suffering so at that point 
>> it would have been just killing her.
>> 
>> I like your answer about doing what you do for the animals.  I'm going to 
>> steal it.  Most everybody just thanks me for helping the animals (I feed 
>> ferals so I run into different people that see me doing it plus going to 
>> adoptions, etc.) but every now and then I get someone who asks why I do it, 
>> as though it's a bad thing or beneath me or something.  I'll use your answer 
>> for those folks.  It's probably better than what I 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

[Dana Giordano]

Have you tried dr elseys precious cat litter? It really does work, at least 
when i tried it with my Buddy, who had felv and fiv and lived till he was about 
11. It worked immediately for him.

On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:21 PM, strchalb...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi John!
> 
> Thanks so much for your quick replywow, you had 6 cats all in the house?? 
> That would be heaven for me:)))  My husband is NOT  a cat lover, so he was 
> not particularly happy stepping in the poop today:(  
> 
> I'm thinking we were chasing the kids in the house at about the time she  
> left her mess.  Maybe she was scared and it just all ran out??  I hate to 
> keep her in the basement now, but I don't want any "surprises" during the 
> night.  She does have plenty of blankets down there with her food and two 
> litter boxes.  
> 
> I do not know what test she was given.  If it's not too difficult for you to 
> discuss, could you tell me how your Tigger's health deteriorated towards the 
> end?So I might know what signs to look for
> 
> Hope your other kitties are healthy:)
> 
> Thanks again for your time!
> Tricia
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: john pollack 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
> 
> Tricia
> My Tigger lived 1 month shy of 5 years with FeLV
> He had his ups and downs, as we all do
> He lived with 6 housemates...NONE are positive!!
> 
> As far as the stool, cats get it like we do. may have eaten something that 
> disagreed with him
> 
> What test was done. Snap or other??
> With Snap, if he's been exposed, it will be postitve, other (ELSA??) is more 
> through, and can tell if he actually has it
>   I wish you the best
>   FeLV kitties can be the most loving of all, as Tigger was
> 
> 
> John
> 
> From: "strchalb...@aol.com" 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm hoping someone can help me
> 
> We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats.   A friend decided to 
> take one home, Pumpkin, and had her all fixed up at the vet with shots, spay 
> and declaw.  She found out she has  feline leukemia.  She kept her for about 
> a month, but I guess she was making a mess as far as using the litter box.  I 
> told her I didn't want her to go to an over crowded humane society, so I took 
> her back.  She is now in the house, as she is front declawed, and she is not 
> to be around the other cats with her cancer.
> 
> So... I've had her home since just before Christmas, and she's been fine 
> other than not eating a whole lot.  Her stool is quiet soft, and I did find a 
> few hard turds in two different sleeping places that she uses.  Well now 
> today,  she had a ver messy stool on the wood floor in the hallway!! Really 
> shocked me as she's been so good using the littler box.  
> 
> Is this a sign that she is getting sick, the not using the littler box?  She 
> has a prescription for Tylosin Tartrate, and she said to give this to 
> her(powder form), when/if she gets sick???
> 
> She does seems to sleep most of the day, but I know cats do do that :)  She 
> also does purr quite loud!!  Must be a good sign.  She will play with a 
> string too.  So she's been very happy, but now I had to resort to putting her 
> back in the basement with her food and litter.  I might end  up sleeping down 
> there with her again, as I did when she first came in the house.  She has had 
> the run of the house now for weeks, but I just don't trust her since her 
> accident.
> 
> 
> I've read where infected cats can live quite long, but yet others do not.  I 
> certainly would not want to put her thru all sorts of treatments... 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your time:)))
> 
> I appreciate any input for my Pumpkin!
> 
> Tricia 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

[dana giordano]

big oops! Thanks PandieAnn! you're right, it's dr elseys cat attract.


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:

> **
> it's not the precious cat litter it's dr. elsey's "cat attract."  100%
> guaranteed money back.
>
>  In a message dated 1/13/2013 10:29:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> giordano.d...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Have you tried dr elseys precious cat litter? It really does work, at
> least when i tried it with my Buddy, who had felv and fiv and lived till he
> was about 11. It worked immediately for him.
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:21 PM, strchalb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  Hi John!
>
> Thanks so much for your quick replywow, you had 6 cats all in the
> house?? That would be heaven for me:)))  My husband is NOT  a cat lover,
> so he was not particularly happy stepping in the poop today:(
>
> I'm thinking we were chasing the kids in the house at about the time she
> left her mess.  Maybe she was scared and it just all ran out??  I hate to
> keep her in the basement now, but I don't want any "surprises" during the
> night.  She does have plenty of blankets down there with her food and two
> litter boxes.
>
> I do not know what test she was given.  If it's not too difficult for you
> to discuss, could you tell me how your Tigger's health deteriorated towards
> the end?So I might know what signs to look for
>
> Hope your other kitties are healthy:)
>
> Thanks again for your time!
> Tricia
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john pollack 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
>
>  Tricia
> My Tigger lived 1 month shy of 5 years with FeLV
> He had his ups and downs, as we all do
> He lived with 6 housemates...NONE are positive!!
>
> As far as the stool, cats get it like we do. may have eaten something that
> disagreed with him
>
> What test was done. Snap or other??
> With Snap, if he's been exposed, it will be postitve, other (ELSA??) is
> more through, and can tell if he actually has it
>   I wish you the best
>   FeLV kitties can be the most loving of all, as Tigger was
>
>
> John
>
>   --
> *From:* "strchalb...@aol.com" 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me
>
> We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats.   A friend decided
> to take one home, Pumpkin, and had her all fixed up at the vet with
> shots, spay and declaw.  She found out she has  feline leukemia.  She
> kept her for about a month, but I guess she was making a mess as far as
> using the litter box.  I told her I didn't want her to go to an over
> crowded humane society, so I took her back.  She is now in the house, as
> she is front declawed, and she is not to be around the other cats with
> her cancer.
>
> So... I've had her home since just before Christmas, and she's been fine
> other than not eating a whole lot.  Her stool is quiet soft, and I did find
> a few hard turds in two different sleeping places that she uses.  Well now
> today,  she had a ver messy stool on the wood floor in the hallway!!
> Really shocked me as she's been so good using the littler box.
>
> Is this a sign that she is getting sick, the not using the littler box?  She
> has a prescription for Tylosin Tartrate, and she said to give this to
> her(powder form), when/if she gets sick???
>
> She does seems to sleep most of the day, but I know cats do do that :)  She
> also does purr quite loud!!  Must be a good sign.  She will play with a
> string too.  So she's been very happy, but now I had to resort to putting
> her back in the basement with her food and litter.  I might end  up
> sleeping down there with her again, as I did when she first came in thehouse. 
>  She has had the run of the house now for weeks, but I just don't
> trust her since her accident.
>
>
> I've read where infected cats can live quite long, but yet others do not.
> I certainly would not want to put her thru all sorts of treatments...
>
>
> Thank you for your time:)))
>
> I appreciate any input for my Pumpkin!
>
> Tricia
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Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs

[Dana Giordano]

Wait- If u get the vaccine, don't they test positive anyway? And ditto- shots 
of FeLV confused me too. Not sure how its meant.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Beth  wrote:

> Shots of FeLV?
> 
>  
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>  
> 
> From: Sharon Catalan 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD 
> cats with the new drugs
> 
> Hello Catherine,
> 
> My cat Mr Gray is about 14 years old.  3 years ago, he was diagnosed with 
> Felv.  He gets regular shots of Felv and today, he's healthier than ever.  
> Try it.  It may lengthen the life of your kitty.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:46 PM, "I-Chun C. C. Chang "  
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear Felvalk friends, 
> > 
> > I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the 
> > treatment  about my currently very sick cat.
> > 
> > My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got 
> > her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...)  
> > After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for 
> > four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted 
> > another cat,  who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three 
> > years.  From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats 
> > with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction 
> > to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV.
> > 
> > Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed 
> > her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 
> > 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been 
> > done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then 
> > concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood 
> > cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on 
> > Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for 
> > test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on 
> > him). 
> > 
> > We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has 
> > mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage 
> > CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting 
> > her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, 
> > and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment 
> > plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc.  
> > 
> > Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat 
> > with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I 
> > really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree 
> > soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with 
> > me... 
> > 
> > Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much!
> > 
> > I. Catherine  
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[Felvtalk] any holistic/chinese herb experts? Product called: Clearlungs

[dana giordano]

Hi all,

I just started using something called Clearlungs for my asthma and uri that
I have (and probably gave to my cats.) It's been quite helpful for my
breathing which made me wonder - has anyone ever used this or know if the
ingredients are safe for cats?

If not, I'll look up the info one by one get back to you but I thought
there might be some good feedback here.

Just fyi, I use Immune boost 77 from morningstar minerals (which is pretty
awesome) for my non-felv URIs, but I just discovered Clearlungs and I was
wondering if it would be a nice addition.

The cats I am considering it for are indoor, non-FELV (and half-feral but
we're working on it) so I would like to avoid the stressful vet when
possible.

Product information is laid out quite readably at
http://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/clearlungs.htm (I've never
ordered from there fyi)

I'll start looking the info up tonight when I get home from work if no one
knows but I thought maybe to get a jump on it if it wasn't too much trouble
for anyone to respond.

Best to you all,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Gary - info on acemannan, etc (web file storage info pass on)

[dana giordano]

Hello all, I've been lurking but haven't introduced myself yet. (I will
soon.)

Was reading up and wanted to pass on some info regarding file sharing. You
might want to consider using an online service to share files . Would make
it easier I think. One is called https://www.dropbox.com/ which is stable,
works for both mac and pc plus is free up to 2 MB, (it  does costs $ for
larger storage amounts. Although, if you run out of space, you can just set
up an account with another email address.) I use it all the time. Hope that
helps.

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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:48 PM, gary  wrote:

> Jenny,
>
> Nothing was attached to this email, I don't know if the list allows
> attachments.  Could you send the stuff directly to me a
> gcru...@centurytel.net please.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:11 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gary - info on acemannan,etc
>
>
>  okay,  I have been trying to send this but it's too big to go through so I
>> copied and pasted onto a word document the abstracts of four articles
>> relating to acemannan (or related polysaccharides and viral infections)
>> These were really to answer the specific question of oral mannose versus
>> IP
>> injection but if you want more articles on acemannan itself I can get them
>> for you.
>>
>> Hope it helps.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>>
>>
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[Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)

[dana giordano]

Hi, I haven't posted anything yet, just keeping up with the list.

I saw this posting on craigslist for a FeLV positive cat needing a home. I
don't work for the rescue or anything and I can't take in another cat. I
just thought it was worth a shot to post it on here. I know you all care
about your kitties very much.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pet/1703019322.html

Best,
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[Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style via treehugger

[dana giordano]

I know some of you work with feral cat communities and wanted to pass this
on.

I thought this story was pretty great. They call it cat rehab. A surprising
and unexpected way to deal with a feral cats killing actual endangered
species.

Check it out!

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07/cat-rehab-weans-feral-felines-off-endandered-birds.php?campaign=daily_n

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Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.

[dana giordano]

Alice, I'm so sorry to hear Murphy passed. He was lucky to have you. It
sounds like he loved you a lot. And you obviously loved him, and was solidly
there for him when he needed you.

I also wanted to thank you so much for sharing the details of his final days
- for me, as a first time Felv+/FIV+ cat owner,  that has been one of the
things I have most been scared of because I have never experienced the death
of an animal and I'm terrified because I'm still trying to understand the
progression of what happens, and am worried and ignorant of how to prepare
for it.  Thank you for shedding a little light on the subject, and in the
process helping me, and others like me attempt to emotionally prepare for
the day we all hope never comes.






On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Bonnie Hogue  wrote:

> Alice
> It saddens me greatly to learn of Murphy's passing.  Through your posts and
> the photo, I felt I had come to know the little guy.  I am so sorry for you
> and your family for this loss.  I'm saying prayers that Murphy's spirit is
> guided to The Land Beyond suffering.  And may your hearts be eased knowing
> you did all you could to make his life on this plane as good as possible.
> Peace.
> Bonnie
> - Original Message - From: "Alice Flowers" <
> aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:54 PM
>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.
>
>
>  Murphy has passed to the bridge tonight to join Buster, Oni, Jack and
>> Schatzi-Rosie's 4 brothers that passed last year. He was 2 1/2. Glenn and
>> I saw
>> in his eyes tonight that he was tired. He gave it all he had but in the
>> end FeLV
>> took him too.We will miss him so much-he filled the house with his
>> incredible
>> personality. He always ran to the door to greet everyone-he never knew a
>> stranger. I will miss his big, poly-dactyl feet going clickity-click
>> around the
>> house and how he could leap up the wall and turn the light switch off and
>> on
>> when he chased the laser toy. Rosie will miss giving him vampire
>> kisses-she's a
>> tough love kinda girl and she is the last Mohican of the 6 FeLV+ kitties
>> we
>> began this journey with. Thanks to all of you for your kindness and
>> caring.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

[dana giordano]

Have you looked into homeopathy?I'm not learnt enough yet to do anything
than point out a possible area to look into.

My situation is my cats aggression ( sounds a lot like yours but not quite
as aggressive with me)  I can trace directly to the presence of the other
cats. She was the first cat. And she's upset I have allowed other cats here
in her space. Poor kitty. Was the cat that is aggressive the first cat
there?

I've only just started looking into it, and I have had very good responses
to hylands bioplasma which a couple of my cats will now eagerly eat out of
my hand,  It definitely calms the cats  (and me) - but I don't think it's
quite enough for an aggression issue like you describe and which I have at
my house, but it might be a start for the kitty household to lower
everyone's stress level.   I previously tried but haven't had  any luck at
all with bach remedies, if your interested in going that route - but maybe
you'll have better luck,

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/18757/  has a message post about halfway
down the page with a good overview and description of how to choose remedies
for cat aggression. I plan to use that as a starting point for one of my
cats who hates my semi-feral. I recommend googling the solution there which
fits best to make sure they stated  the correct information. And possibly
working with a homeopath, as this is a little confusing to sort out.

Unfortunately, that's all I know so far. Not much. yet. But maybe it will
start you off in a good direction.

Dana




On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM, LauraM  wrote:

> I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed
> by one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm
> seriously considering  rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard
> will literally try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be
> kept separate at all times - Blizzard gets his time out and the other 4 have
> to be shut up in the bathroom. Bliz is fine with most everybody else, but in
> general dislikes other cats. Some nights I am woken up over and over again
> by fights and squabbling, and he is the instigator. I've had him for 2 years
> - I took him from somebody who was being evicted. It's always been a
> problem, but because he gets worked up and can attack people also (I have
> the scars to prove it) I've been reluctant to give him away. I'm afraid he'd
> tick somebody off and wind up in a shelter or thrown outside. If I can't
> find him a home I'll have to build him an outdoor enclosure. My house is
>  small and he can't go into the spare room because I keep baby turtles
> there, and my positives are in the garage.
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[Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats

[dana giordano]

My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA
positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be?

I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to
take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any
or been interested  - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get
all the way under the door -  the gap is about a half inch high  - but they
get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch,
even if it's only for a moment.

I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I
leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with
him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the
neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV
and  FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago.

I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as
I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may
start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even
that gets old, I imagine.

Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I
should have with playing paws?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries

[dana giordano]

Do people ever start what is basically a very small in-home sanctuary to
help take care of almost 10 multiple rescued cats, and some outdoor ferals
because they don't believe in risking the cats to the shelter systems?  Is
that too small a number of animals to be considered a sanctuary non-profit?


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

> The few truly good sanctuaries that I have encountered have been small
> operations with multiple humans living on site.
>
> --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Carmen Conklin  wrote:
>
> > From: Carmen Conklin 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 2:26 PM
> > If you are considering any sanctuary
> > for your animals, please visit that
> > sanctuary personally to see how the animals are cared for
> > and if it is what
> > it says it is. Our special needs sanctuary for felines has
> > five very nice
> > buildings and a brand new large sixth building is being
> > completed or will be
> > by  March. It will have a clinic room for our med tech
> > and spay/neuter
> > clinics, a storage bay, overnight guest 'apartment' for
> > volunteers who come
> > and help us and room for cats. The PETA report on the S.C.
> > sanctuary is
> > horrific and it also gives the word 'sanctuary' a bad rap.
> > We need more
> > positive stories.  Just be sure to visit if you take
> > an animal to any so
> > called 'sanctuary. It is very important. We always tell
> > people to come
> > either first, or take the kitty home with you if we are not
> > the fit for your
> > cat. It is the staff that makes the difference for us, the
> > board and our
> > volunteers as well.  We have a couple cats coming from
> > a so-called 'rescue'
> > (gone bad) and the animal welfare groups we are working
> > with are doing what
> > they can for the animals. The cats have been kept i 1.2 x2'
> > cages one since
> > she was 9 weeks old and she is 5 years old now. Needless to
> > say she is kind
> > of 'crazy' and adoption challenged. I have never been to
> > Caboodle Ranch but
> > there have been many problems there. On Facebook you will
> > find a lot of
> > information from Caboodles Angels, all who have taken a cat
> > there and it
> > went missing very quickly..
> > Carmen and furs at Rustic Hollow Shelter.
> > www.rustichollowshelter.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries

[dana giordano]

I like hearng about people's experiences on this
sanctuary/shelter/will/caretaker sort of thing. It's very illuminating.

 And I just have to say,  well said Kelley on the PETA thing. They creep me
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

> As far as the original article goes, it was an article by PETA, which I
> trust about as far as I can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you
> ever tried it)?
>
> PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
> disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to other
> shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them homes.  They
> were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
> something of that nature.
>
> Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
> worry about them.
>
> PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy looking
> at
> animals from a distance.
>
> They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill a fly
> on
> TV.
>
> I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Kelley Saveika 
> wrote:
>
> > The IRS has gotten rid of the advanced ruling period.
> >
> > http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=185568,00.html
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know what the requirement is to qualify as a "sanctuary" or the
> >> number of animals in care (probably none), the most important ruling is
> >> being publicly and NOT privately supported.  There's a one year advance
> >> ruling period, in which you must prove that there was support from the
> >> public, then one is granted permanent status.
> >> I always question the word "sanctuary" - Audubon has opened their
> >> sanctuaries in many places to bowhunting...some sanctuary!
> >>
> >>
>
>
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>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
>
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>
> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
>
> Please help Trooper!
>
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
>
>
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........

[dana giordano]

I don't know how old the cats are but (i'm sorry) the amounts I am seeing
(500/1000) doesn't seem like it would be enough to take care of the cats for
long other than maybe food needs. I definitely could be wrong. And maybe
that's all it's intended for.

Natalie that is a fantastic idea!

I wanted to share some potential solutions just to put it out there?  Love
that one though. (note: Must.buy.house. :P)

Has anyone thought of raising funds via chipin, maybe through a local 501c3
so their donators will get tax deductions, or perhaps kickstarter, or pepsi
refresh? These are very popular fund raising sites nowadays and you can
choose different amounts...you just have to hit the minimum to get the money
I think but people can always contribute more than requested, especially if
you state that in the description of why you are looking for funds.

And just fyi - there are actually cat retirement homes out there - did
anyone know that? Isn't that a smart idea? Wanted to put that out there too,
although they make you pay upfront for the lifetime care of the cats.  I'm
sure they would give you a figure on the costs if you ask, and maybe it's
just a good idea to have that number for a goal.

Also, if there are no no-kill shelters near you perhaps you could find some
that are sort of nearby and see if local rescue groups would be willing to
transport them to that shelter, the shelter take them, and get that contact
info out to family and in the will so there is a plan in place and it will
get done.  Also, they may have ideas on wills and after-care for animals.
I'm sure they deal with it all the time.

It's smart to think ahead. Good to see people doing so. I'm fairly young and
I think all my kitties will be gone by I'm 60 (I have 7.) which was just a
lucky thing, not a well-thought out thing, so hopefully I won't have to deal
with this myself.  If I want animals after that I decided I'm only going to
foster them because of exactly this situation. Mostly because I have no
money to even put away what you guys have! :)




On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Hi Kat,  This is exactly what I have done so far.  In my will I have
> left $1,000 for each of my 14 cats.  It is the best I can think of to
> assure they are cared for. However, I have no way of knowing some
> unscrupulous person won't take the money and dump the cat!!  It's the
> big question of WHO will take each cat, and how can I be certain they
> will be taken care of. We have no local no-kill shelter, and the
> humane society in our small town is worthless. They are mainly
> concerned with dogs.
>
> My grown kids all adore cats, but they have a bunch of their own, so
> I know they couldn't take all 14 of mome.  It is such a big problem,
> but I must get it resolved as time is running out.  I have enough
> money from a small inheritance to insure the care and safety of my
> cats, but overseeing this is the huge problem.
>
> Lorrie in WV
>
> On 02-25, katskat1 wrote:
> > I too had this concern as I run a small rescue as well as having
> > several cats and dogs of my own.  In my 60's, live along female.  I
> > finally talked to a lawyer while arranging my will and found the thing
> > that makes me feel best.
> >
> > I allocated a certain lump sum per animal ($500/cat, $1000/dog as I
> > couldn't afford to set up a trust altho am still considering that) in
> > my will for any and all animals alive at the time of my death.  This
> > money goes to the local no kill shelter or humane society to be used
> > specifically for each animal with the sole purpose of allowing it to
> > live its' full, natural life in a healthy and natural manner, adopted
> > or fostered if possible and NOT to be euthanized unless two vets
> > concur it is a medical neccessity.
> >
> > Best I could do but it will hopefully serve the purpose.
> >
> > Anybody have any ideas on how I can make it more air tight?  I don't
> > know if I would have much more money than that as I don't own much but
> > I have asked my one sister to allow it from life insurance if
> > necessary and she has agreed.
> >
> > Good luck. and NEVER allow your animals to go anywhere you haven't
> > visited and seen several times, at several times of day, unnanounced
> > if possible.
> >
> > kat
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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

[dana giordano]

http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER-


The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy
cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good.

And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free
and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for
free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one.

They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and
give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk.

Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are
easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :)

Hope that helps!
Dana






On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy  wrote:

> It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with
> heating
> and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends.  Can you recommend the kit
> companies you used?
>
> Thanks Natalie!
> :)
> Wendy
>  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> change the
> world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Natalie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>
> Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a
> house?
> We have built our own and also used kits from CA.  We have 4 outdoor
> enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like.
> We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good.
> Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then.
> Natalie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an
> outdoor
> cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures
> (Suncatcher
> Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.
>  I
> can
> build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this
> type of
> fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at constructing
> a
>
> wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not afraid
> of
> hard work, but not sure where to start.
>
> Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
> Thank you!
> Wendy
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses -answer 2 :o)

[dana giordano]

Sorry! Didn't read that post properly. For full on cat enclosures, these
sites may work better for companies and ideas:

 http://catioshowcase.com/

http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html
<http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html>

http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures.htm

http://www.catiodesigns.com/

http://habitathaven.com/cat-enclosures.html

http://www.habitatforcats.com/

http://www.kittykouch.com/articles/cathabitat.htm

http://www.wvcats.com/enclosures.htm

http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/catrun.htm

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/138057-outdoor-cat-habitat-pics.html






<http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html>

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, dana giordano wrote:

> http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER- 
> <http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER>
>
> The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy
> cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good.
>
> And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free
> and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for
> free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one.
>
> They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and
> give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk.
>
> Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are
> easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :)
>
> Hope that helps!
> Dana
>
>
>
> <http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy  wrote:
>
>> It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with
>> heating
>> and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends.  Can you recommend the
>> kit
>> companies you used?
>>
>> Thanks Natalie!
>> :)
>> Wendy
>>  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
>> change the
>> world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade
>> ~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Natalie 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>>
>> Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a
>> house?
>> We have built our own and also used kits from CA.  We have 4 outdoor
>> enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like.
>> We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good.
>> Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then.
>> Natalie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an
>> outdoor
>> cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures
>> (Suncatcher
>> Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.
>>  I
>> can
>> build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this
>> type of
>> fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at constructing
>> a
>>
>> wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not
>> afraid
>> of
>> hard work, but not sure where to start.
>>
>> Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
>> Thank you!
>> Wendy
>>
>>
>>
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[Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

[dana giordano]

This didn't seem to go through, just wanted to double send in case some
weirdness happened.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:10 AM, dana giordano wrote:

> Sorry! Didn't read that post properly. For full on cat enclosures, these
> sites may work better for companies and ideas:
>
>  http://catioshowcase.com/
>
> http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html 
> <http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html>
>
> http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures.htm
>
> http://www.catiodesigns.com/
>
> http://habitathaven.com/cat-enclosures.html
>
> http://www.habitatforcats.com/
>
> http://www.kittykouch.com/articles/cathabitat.htm
>
> http://www.wvcats.com/enclosures.htm
>
> http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/catrun.htm
>
>
> http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/138057-outdoor-cat-habitat-pics.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, dana giordano 
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER- 
>> <http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER>
>>
>> The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy
>> cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good.
>>
>> And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free
>> and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for
>> free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one.
>>
>> They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and
>> give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk.
>>
>> Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are
>> easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :)
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>> Dana
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy  wrote:
>>
>>> It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with
>>> heating
>>> and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends.  Can you recommend the
>>> kit
>>> companies you used?
>>>
>>> Thanks Natalie!
>>> :)
>>> Wendy
>>>  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
>>> change the
>>> world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
>>> Meade ~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Natalie 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>>>
>>> Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a
>>> house?
>>> We have built our own and also used kits from CA.  We have 4 outdoor
>>> enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they
>>> like.
>>> We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good.
>>> Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then.
>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an
>>> outdoor
>>> cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures
>>> (Suncatcher
>>> Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.
>>>  I
>>> can
>>> build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this
>>> type of
>>> fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at
>>> constructing a
>>>
>>> wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not
>>> afraid
>>> of
>>> hard work, but not sure where to start.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
>>> Thank you!
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

[dana giordano]

HI All, please add my boy Buddy to the list. He was 10 years old, both Felv
and Fiv positive.

He passed earlier today about a half hour after a seizure. He had no prior
seizure activity I was aware of, in fact I thought he was in great condition
and would be around for a couple more years. He went completely limp after
the seizure and at first I actually thought he was dead. But a little breath
showed on the mirror in front of his nose, and then I hoped he would come
round in at least some fashionbut it didn't happen, he was barely
breathing, I couldn't tell if he was conscious or not the whole time - and
then just as we got to the vets, he stopped. There was nothing they could
do. I am really grateful I was home (my worst fear was he would be alone)
and able to be with him when he passed and I really hope he was aware he was
not alone, and I was trying to help him.

He was absolutely an awesome friend, such a patient cat, surprisingly sweet
and playful for an old, very tough ex-TomCat. He was finally getting plump
and really loving scratchies and pets. A total joy for me to see inside,
safe and happy. I knew him the last three years - after feeding him for two,
last winter is the year I caught him and insisted he stay inside.  We worked
really hard to get to a very good place and it was worth it.  He worked the
hardest; he still was willing to trust me.

I am really sad. I miss my friend in my house. His room feels incredibly
empty and even though he wasn't allowed out of his room, I feel the absence
of his physical and spiritual presence everywhere. I am getting him cremated
(in his cozy soft bed he loved, if they will allow it) so he will be back,
sort of, but this is the first time I have had one of my cats in someone
else's care when out of my house. I never leave them alone in a strange
place. I know it's weird but it's creeping me out thinking of him alone,
even if he is curled in his beloved bed, at the doctors office. I didn't
like leaving him there. :(

All, if you can, give your kitties a kiss, a hug and a treat today to thank
them for still being around. I know I am!

Best,

Dana and her 6 other furbabies (Callie, Hobbie, Greyling, Fuzzy, Magical
Forest Creature and Honeybunny Pouf) .
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

[dana giordano]

Thank you for condolences. I will really miss him. It's really weird to not
have him home.

Dana


On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mike Finch  wrote:

> Dear Dana,
>
> I'm so sorry for the shock and grief you must be experiencing.  I'm so
> glad, for both of you, that you were there to care for him when he crashed.
>  Thank you for loving him and giving him a warm and loving place to live out
> his life.
>
> I will pray that your heart will begin to heal soon.  God bless.
>
> Mike :)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

[dana giordano]

Thank you so much for the condolences. I am still pretty sad he left. He's
all over my facebook page.  I don't know if you can see but here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=500028466&aid=19598 He's the white and
gray one on the bottom.

A nutty thing I'm doing is imagining conversations in my head when I visit
his room and he tells me how he's doing.  It actually helps. Sometimes I
wonder if  that's a little too nutty or even if it could be real - who knows
-  but I don't think I care. I like to imagine him up there calmly adapting
and enjoying being healthy in heaven.


I'm trying to look at the positives. I think it was fairly quick, I was
actually home with him, he died and was cremated in his comfy beloved bed,
although I haven't gotten him back yet.

Very important for the end, I didn't have to force him into a cage to get to
the vet. That would have been bad.. It once took me a nightmarish two hours
and it sounded like I was abusing him as he screamed and climbed up between
the screen and the window to not be cratedsheesh - the crate was huge
too. I finally had to get wooden boards and literally used several  as
leverage to block and steadily force him in. He was BIG and strong. He was
awesome. He was fine btw. Just pissed. Never ever defeated. LOL. That just
made me smile.  I Love him!  He had his moments. :)

He didn't suffer from cancer as far as I know. He was finally fat with thick
healthy and clean fur.  I gave him as many snackies as he wanted.

I worried his life would end in the worst possible way, as I'm sure many of
you do, so I am sad but extremely grateful I knew him and it was at least
seemingly peaceful. I'm afraid to google it yet. I hope it was.

Most frightening for me was I did not know Animal CPR and either way I was
so scared, I could not hear or feel his pulse over the loud beating of my
own heart. I had to get a mirror to check for breath and then wait a minute
until I calmed myself enough to feel his pulse. I don't think I want to be
that uneducated again. I really felt the responsibility of his life and
trust in me. I think I did ok because there wasn't much I could do but I'm
not going to risk that again. I hope I don't need it.

I hope you all give your kitties a kiss and a hug and a thank you for still
being around tonight. As you know, It matters.

Best to you all and thank you so much for giving me a place to talk...many
people are kind of being like..blippy about this...it didn't mean anything
and they are happy, actually that I have one less cat.. Yes it makes my life
easier but some people went there SO Fast. :(

It's scary how little animals mean to some people. They just see fur, they
don't see heart.

Thank you for having this list!
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On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:26 PM, wendy  wrote:

> Dana,
>
> I'm so sorry to hear about your sweet Buddy.  Prayers for peace for you.
>
> Wendy
>
>  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
> change the
> world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade
> ~~~
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: dana giordano 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:59:08 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.
>
> HI All, please add my boy Buddy to the list. He was 10 years old, both Felv
> and Fiv positive.
>
> He passed earlier today about a half hour after a seizure. He had no prior
> seizure activity I was aware of, in fact I thought he was in great
> condition
> and would be around for a couple more years. He went completely limp after
> the seizure and at first I actually thought he was dead. But a little
> breath
> showed on the mirror in front of his nose, and then I hoped he would come
> round in at least some fashionbut it didn't happen, he was barely
> breathing, I couldn't tell if he was conscious or not the whole time - and
> then just as we got to the vets, he stopped. There was nothing they could
> do. I am really grateful I was home (my worst fear was he would be alone)
> and able to be with him when he passed and I really hope he was aware he
> was
> not alone, and I was trying to help him.
>
> He was absolutely an awesome friend, such a patient cat, surprisingly sweet
> and playful for an old, very tough ex-TomCat. He was finally getting plump
> and really loving scratchies and pets. A total joy for me to see inside,
> safe and happy. I knew him the last three years - after feeding him for
> two,
> last winter is the year I caught him and insisted he stay inside.  We
> worked
> really hard to get to a very good place and it was worth it.  He worked th

Re: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

[dana giordano]

Aw. Thanks for sharing that. It was really actually comforting to hear. :)

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:11 PM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:

> Why do you think you are imagining it?  They do come back when we are ready
> and .well, I have long conversations with my loves that have left
> this world.  And they have made sure I knew it was very real.
>
> Bless you.
>
> On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:04 PM, dana giordano wrote:
>
>  Thank you so much for the condolences. I am still pretty sad he left. He's
>> all over my facebook page.  I don't know if you can see but here is a
>> link:
>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=500028466&aid=19598 He's the white
>> and
>> gray one on the bottom.
>>
>> A nutty thing I'm doing is imagining conversations in my head when I visit
>> his room and he tells me how he's doing.  It actually helps. Sometimes I
>> wonder if  that's a little too nutty or even if it could be real - who
>> knows
>> -  but I don't think I care. I like to imagine him up there calmly
>> adapting
>> and enjoying being healthy in heaven.
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to look at the positives. I think it was fairly quick, I was
>> actually home with him, he died and was cremated in his comfy beloved bed,
>> although I haven't gotten him back yet.
>>
>> Very important for the end, I didn't have to force him into a cage to get
>> to
>> the vet. That would have been bad.. It once took me a nightmarish two
>> hours
>> and it sounded like I was abusing him as he screamed and climbed up
>> between
>> the screen and the window to not be cratedsheesh - the crate was huge
>> too. I finally had to get wooden boards and literally used several  as
>> leverage to block and steadily force him in. He was BIG and strong. He was
>> awesome. He was fine btw. Just pissed. Never ever defeated. LOL. That just
>> made me smile.  I Love him!  He had his moments. :)
>>
>> He didn't suffer from cancer as far as I know. He was finally fat with
>> thick
>> healthy and clean fur.  I gave him as many snackies as he wanted.
>>
>> I worried his life would end in the worst possible way, as I'm sure many
>> of
>> you do, so I am sad but extremely grateful I knew him and it was at least
>> seemingly peaceful. I'm afraid to google it yet. I hope it was.
>>
>> Most frightening for me was I did not know Animal CPR and either way I was
>> so scared, I could not hear or feel his pulse over the loud beating of my
>> own heart. I had to get a mirror to check for breath and then wait a
>> minute
>> until I calmed myself enough to feel his pulse. I don't think I want to be
>> that uneducated again. I really felt the responsibility of his life and
>> trust in me. I think I did ok because there wasn't much I could do but I'm
>> not going to risk that again. I hope I don't need it.
>>
>> I hope you all give your kitties a kiss and a hug and a thank you for
>> still
>> being around tonight. As you know, It matters.
>>
>> Best to you all and thank you so much for giving me a place to talk...many
>> people are kind of being like..blippy about this...it didn't mean anything
>> and they are happy, actually that I have one less cat.. Yes it makes my
>> life
>> easier but some people went there SO Fast. :(
>>
>> It's scary how little animals mean to some people. They just see fur, they
>> don't see heart.
>>
>> Thank you for having this list!
>> Dana
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:26 PM, wendy  wrote:
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>>  Dana,
>>>
>>> I'm so sorry to hear about your sweet Buddy.  Prayers for peace for you.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
>>> change the
>>> world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret
>>> Meade
>>> ~~~
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>>> From: dana giordano 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:59:08 PM
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.
>>>
>>> HI All, please add my boy Buddy to the list. He was 10 years old, both
>>> F

[Felvtalk] anyone in philly area? senior FeLV at ACCT in urgent list

[dana giordano]

Hi everyone, this kitty needs a home and I didn't let Buddy loose in my
house, he was content in the bathroom. I think this little guy needs more
human attention than living in my bathroom would give him, and my cats would
eat him alive anyway - no word yet on IFA confirmation but they move kinda
quick...he seems like a total lover who needs some love.

More info below.
he is at the ACCT shelter in philadelphia - you can see a photo of him in
the philadelphia Urgents photos section for kitties.
Or for a direct link after the facebook dot com add this:

/#!/photo.php?fbid=1651466497581&set=a.1457687733233.2056813.1564571765&theater



Save LOVER BOY! Lover Boy (A12501941) is the snuggliest, sweetest senior cat
you will ever meet. Ever. He LOVES to wrap his arms & legs around you and
snuggle his head in your neck and give you kisses all over your neck. And
they are little, wet, sandpaper kisses - the BEST! True to his name, he is
quite the lover boy.

Lover Boy was surrendered to ACCT when his owner passed away. He is 10 to 15
years old, a grey tabby, and is already neutered. This senior cat is
slightly underweight, his coat is in bad shape, he is missing a few teeth,
and it should be noted that he may have underlying medical conditions due to
his age. Poor Lover Boy had two fosters lined up, and was ready to leave
ACCT when he was tested and turned up FeLV+. Now Lover Boy is still waiting
at ACCT and doesn't have much time. He desperately needs a quiet, loving
home to spend his remaining golden years.

Lover Boy URGENTLY needs foster care or adoption. Due to his FeLV+ status,
he will need a home where he will be the only cat or a home with other FeLV+
cats. Please do not let ACCT be the last home Lover Boy knows.

Lover Boy is part of the Pen Pal program at ACCT, which allows him to have
more extensive socialization and one-on-one attention from his Pen Pal,
Leslie. If you are interested in adopting or fostering Lover Boy, please
email his Pen Pal at leslie.pen...@gmail.com
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[Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?

[dana giordano]

Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging
10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died.

Can anyone take him in?

He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's
good enough for this little lovebug.
As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I
will make sure he's confirmed.  Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in
the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance.

Let me know.
Dana

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport

[dana giordano]

I found this via facebook that my contacts have friended. Maybe they can
help you.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Take-Me-Home-Animal-Rescue-Transports/191304693761
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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Does anyone know anything about transport?  I am trying to get these 2
> FELV+
> kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has
> yet).  I do not know the first thing about it.  Often our adopters have
> limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the
> essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first.
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
>
> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
>
> Please help Trooper!
>
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
>
>
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
>
> - Nathan Winograd
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Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?

[dana giordano]

Will do Stray Cat Alliance.

Thank you Beverly for sharing. He needs some help.


Catherine Thank you for reaching out and offering to take him. I sent you an
email last night but maybe it didn't make it, my internet was acting funny
last night and I didn't get a response yet so I'm worried you didn't get it.
Where are you in NYC? Could you send me your info or may I send you the info
to reach out directly to the rescue who is trying to place him. My contact
think that they will allow transport to you. I hope we manage to connect -
maybe you might be interested in a kitten too? Someone sent me an email
today asking for help.  I should have a link with image on it soon.


I also just had someone local contact me about a FeLV kitten her friend
pulled from a nyc shelter but her family is flipping out about his felv
status and she has to rehome the cat.

If you want to see the kitty, he's in facebook on the Philly Urgent's page -
photo gallery called urgent cats - he's gray, he's a bit beat up but still
cute and over someone's shoulder. He just takes your heart.

Open to suggestions. I'm not a rescue or non profit. Just involved b/c of
Buddy. :)

Dana



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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  wrote:

> My cat Bob shared the link on his Facebook profile, too...
>
> www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1651466497581&set=a.1457687733233.205681
> 3.1564571765
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:41 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey
> friendly FelV positive senior?
>
> Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing
> hugging
> 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died.
>
> Can anyone take him in?
>
> He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's
> good enough for this little lovebug.
> As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the
> interim, I will make sure he's confirmed.  Even a foster would be
> appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave
> him this long a chance.
>
> Let me know.
> Dana
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[Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?

[dana giordano]

Have you thought about getting on facebook or twitter? I think so many
people on there would appreciate easy access to this amazing group of very
educated and passionate group of people. There is nothing there I have found
that even comes close to this group/site/list.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(

[dana giordano]

I'm so glad you found her and helped her. Just knowing someone was
therein some ways I'm sure she was aware there was caring and love
surrounding her finally -  and now when you meet again someday, she'll tell
you so.

So glad to know people like you people. What you do is so important and so
hard. You make the world a better place - a place I want to be, and a reason
why I think we're here (and given thumbs! lol)  in the first place.


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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM,  wrote:

> This is so sad, that pople hve no compssion for a creature in pain.  Even
> worse, those same people usually do not have compassion for suffering
> people.  Thak you for caring and giving her some comfort in her last hours.
>
>
>  Jannes Taylor  wrote:
> > So heartbreaking. Thank you for doing what you could. It is so sad to
> think
> > about how many more there are out there. So many people just look the
> other
> > way...Bless you for your compassionate heart.
> >  Jannes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Diane Rosenfeldt 
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 5:56:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(
> >
> > Aww. This hurts my heart. But bless you for bringing her in and giving
> her a
> > caring passage and people to grieve her. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to
> little
> > Lola.
> >
> > Diane R.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:06 AM
> > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(
> >
> > Got a call at 5pm yesterday that someone had seen a kitty in the ATM
> drive
> > thru lane at a local bank. I ran up there & didn't see a thing at first.
> She
> > was a tiny brown tabby sitting so still in the leaves that I didn't even
> see
> > her. She blended right in. She was so cold & wet & could barely make a
> > sound. I put her in a carrier wrapped in a towel & met some other
> volunteers
> > who took her to the emergency vet.
> > She was so cold her temp didn't even register. She was FeLV positive &
> had
> > severe ulcers in her mouth. The vet estimated her to be about 2 years old
> > though she looked like she was only 3 months old. After some time trying
> to
> > raise her temp they determined the best thing was to euthanize her. Her
> > heart was barely pumping.
> > I named her Lola so she would have a name before going over the Rainbow
> > Bridge.
> > It is so sad to think how long she may have been there & how many people
> saw
> > her & just kept going without a second thought. What a sad story. Even
> > sadder because I know she is just one of many who meet their end this
> way.
> > At least she had a name :(
> >
> > Beth
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Casanova aka "Studs" going over the rainbow bridge

[dana giordano]

I'm so sorry, and so glad to hear you both got a chance to share love. Love
the gentle vibes over the Rainbow bridge sentiment. I will send mine for him
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM,  wrote:

> So sorry, I will keep you both in my prayers
>
>  Beth  wrote:
> > Too emotionally exhausted to go into detail, but it is time. I've only
> had this kitty since Monday & he has already stolen my heart. I'm thankful I
> got to sleep in his room with him last night - he slept glued to me. He
> knows he is loved.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas

[dana giordano]

For you house, I recommend diluting Dawn dishwashing liquid soap (supposedly
only the Blue Dawn works) and spraying it all over and under your furniture,
walls floors - I couldn't get rid of my house fleas until I tried that last
home remedy - and I think I've tried them all.  The Dawn soap one works! It
supposed to work as a desiccant and is one of the few I found that actually
works on adult fleas, not the larvae.  Put as much as your comfortable with,
I put a sqeeze or two in a small spray bottle.

For cleaning, I use white vinegar (straight) although you can dilute that
too if you want, and that is also supposed to be something fleas hate, or it
kils them...sorry I forget exactly on that one...

For putting ON the cats, I second the capstar ,

Frontline...eh. You could also carefully rub FOOD grade diatomaceous earth
powder in their fur.  Be warned it's like drywall dust and extremely drying
but it's an option. Food grade is ok for cats (and humans) to digest.  I had
one cat who would roll in it ( I dropped a small pile of it on the basement
floor) and he was my flea indicator. :)

I wouldn't recommend putting it all over your house it's messy, and the
small particles are not great for the lungsI'd definitely stick with the
soap.

I had more success with the Dawn.

On another note - if your cat has flea allergies, and licking themselves
bald, I've found that giving them Hylands bioplasma tablets fixed that. The
one cat I have who does and had licked himself bald comes running for his
almost daily or sometimes twice daily pills when I shake the bottle. The
others I gave them to, come intermittently now when I shake the bottle, but
my little Hobbie was desperate for them. Over the winter, he didn't want
them as much but he's started to ask for them again now.


Dana



On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Cindy McHugh  wrote:

> I just realized our FeLV cat has fleas. Our other cats are housed
> separately and haven't shown any sign of them, so I'd like to nip this in
> the bud. I don't like using chemicals when I can possibly avoid them, but I
> have to do something. Can anyone recommend an effective flea treatment
> program for a FeLV+ cat? I'd also welcome suggestions of cleaning supplies
> that won't harm him.
>
> He's housed in our basement and really needs/deserves a forever home of his
> own. He's fully vetted (vaccinated, neutered, and microchipped). He's the
> sweetest cat we've ever fostered. He's a lovely blue/grey with green eyes.
> Photos gladly provided to anyone interested.
>
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[Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary

[dana giordano]

I've never seen one of these, but wanted to pass it on in case anyone wants
to reach out to her, knows a sanctuary or wants to adopt.

They have $700 out of $1000 raised with 20 days left

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/alan-s-sanctuary

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