Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
Hi, Before I even read your last e-mail I was going to suggest an abdominal ultrasound to look for lymphoma. One of our cats had lymphoma and it was mis-diagnosed by 4 vets. She ended up having chemotherapy and did really well for 7 years. She eventually died due to a mass in her esophagus, which showed up suddenly. Her symptoms were not eating and heaving breathing. Unfortunately, the mass was inoperable. She was at least 18 years old at this point though. Michele www.veggienumnums.com - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:31:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Thanks Belinda. I just received the latest on Petey, see below. Will keep you all posted. Kerry Petey is at Family Pet – they’ll do a full blood work-up and probably give him some fluids. The Dr. didn’t seem too optimistic. She thinks his heart murmur is recent – the emergency vet last night heard it and I told him I thought he’d always had that, but the FP vet didn’t have that in any of her notes from her previous times with him. She also thinks his gums are too pale, even for a FeLeuk cat. She looked at his x-rays and thought his small intestine looked abnormal and will have other vets give their opinion. She has a few preliminary ideas - anemia, which could also have something to do with his heart murmur; a gastro-intestinal issue; or, worst case scenario, lymphoma – and I think she mentionedstomach cancer. Hopefully they will be able to rule out or find out more with the blood work. I’m hoping to hear from her within the hour to discuss the results and our options. She didn’t sound very optimistic about any of it. She thought he was quite sick and was very concerned about his heavy breathing during his visit. Will let you know what I find out.. From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:23:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Hi Kerry, What's his HCT, anemia will cause these types of symptoms. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4011 (20090415) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster or permanent home needed for Tofu
Well, as I mentioned I can make a donation to her boarding and I'll still ask around for a foster home. I live in Northern California. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We are in Austin, TX and so is Tofu. I expect our vet will board her, but I > haven't asked him. They closed at noon, and I didn't get the news about her > being combo + until after that. > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:13 PM, wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am dealing with several cats that need major medical care myself, but I > > can ask around to all my rescue friends. I am trying to find a good foster > > home for a cat myself, he will need medication as he is going to have all > > his teeth pulled. He is Felv negative but has chronic health problems. > > > > Where do you live and where is Tofu? Do you know of a place that will board > > her. I can make a donation. > > > > -- > > Michele > > > > -- Original message -- > > From: "Kelley Saveika" > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We found this little girl outside. She's been spayed and had her shots, > > > combo tested double pos. I know she may not even be pos, but this foster > > is > > > not willing to keep her. I can't keep her for several reasons. She's > > > adorable and loves people. We just paid a $600 vet bill and have no way > > to > > > board her even...anyone willing to help? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kelley > > > > > > -- > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > > > Check out our Memsaic! > > > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > > > Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens > > > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them > > first > > > as long as you leave me alone". > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster or permanent home needed for Tofu
Hi, I am dealing with several cats that need major medical care myself, but I can ask around to all my rescue friends. I am trying to find a good foster home for a cat myself, he will need medication as he is going to have all his teeth pulled. He is Felv negative but has chronic health problems. Where do you live and where is Tofu? Do you know of a place that will board her. I can make a donation. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi all, > > We found this little girl outside. She's been spayed and had her shots, > combo tested double pos. I know she may not even be pos, but this foster is > not willing to keep her. I can't keep her for several reasons. She's > adorable and loves people. We just paid a $600 vet bill and have no way to > board her even...anyone willing to help? > > Thanks, > > Kelley > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
Hi, I can only tell you my experience with chemo and lymphoma. You should, of course, discuss everything with your vet. One of my cats has lymphoma and has been through three rounds of chemo. When the side-effects were just too severe I asked them to lower the dosage. I was happy with my decision because it did not seem to effect the outcome of the treatment and my cat wasn't suffering from awful side-effects. Good luck! Michele -- Original message -- From: hebert ferrarezzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Olá amigos, > As already told, Pupa (8 years old) was tested FeLV+ in January/2008 and > diagnosed with lymploma (large cell type) at the submandibular lymphnode in > april. Since then, she has been treated with Staphylococcal Protein A and has > recovered very well from severe thrombocytopenia and neutropenia. The > lymphoma > had an apparent short time of remission but returned in a persistent constant > slow growth. > A chemmo protocol using L-asparaginase+Prednisone was initiated and > interrupted > after 3 weeks since no effect was noted. A recent ultrasonographic image exam > showed a large and encapsulated tumor. Considering that Pupa upholds good > red/white BCC, I decided to begin a more aggressive chemmo protocol (COP: > cyclophosphamide, vincristine, predinisone) two weeks ago. > The response was surprisingly: five days after the first COP session, the > tumor > reduced to an unstructured mass, and at the eighth day, when the second > vincristine injection was done, no sign of it could be founded by touch > inspection. The vets were astonished such a rapid remission and we are > praying > so that thus remains for a long long time. The third chemmo session is to be > tomorrow, after checking the results of her new hematological exam. > My question, I hope you could help me by previous experience or knowledge > about, > is: > > Should I have to shorten the protocol or at least reduce the drugs dosage (in > order to avoid the side effects that are beginning to appear)? > > Any information will be very welcome, > Many thanksSincerely... > Hebert > http://www.butantan.gov.br/ecoevo/index_ing.htm > > > > _ > Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, > videocassetadas e > muito mais no MSN Video! > http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
One of my cats had a huge growth on her lip and five or six different vets misdiagnosed it. We gave her all kinds of medicines. Finally, I found a vet who knew exactly what it was and it was cleared up within a week. The same cat has lymphoma and it took over a year to get a correct diagnosis. Now I see vet specialists whenever possible it if is something unusual. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: "Viky Digangi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > He had a complete blood work up a couple of months ago and nothing was > extremely > high or low. I will suggest a biopsy tomorrow when I take him for his shot. > Thanks > > Viky Digangi > Support Enforcement Officer II > Monroe Regional Office > 318-362-5280 ext 297 > Fax 318-362-3363 > > > > >>> 10/12/08 9:07 PM >>> > Hi, > > Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not > anemic > and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that > you > have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and > to > rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually > benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. > I've > never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv. > > I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know > if > the growth is cancerous or not. > > Good luck! > Michele > > -- Original message -- > From: "Viky Digangi" > > > I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was > > positive > > for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last > > December > > when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. > > Although > > he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the > > virus. > > He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of > the > > immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him > > every > two > > weeks. > > > > Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of > blood > > drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which > > I > > had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have > > and > > he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's > condition > > surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now > > so > > I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He > > cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had > > encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would > > switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Viky Digangi > > > > Viky Digangi > > Support Enforcement Officer II > > Monroe Regional Office > > 318-362-5280 ext 297 > > Fax 318-362-3363 > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help my Mickey
Hi, Have you had bloodwork done on Mickey lately to make sure that he's not anemic and to make sure there's not something else going on? I would suggest that you have your vet do a small biopsy of the growth to get an exact diagnosis and to rule out cancer. I think adenomas are common in older pets and are usually benign. I don't think it is common for them to bleed so extensively though. I've never seen any reference to adenomas being cause by Felv. I am not sure if prednisone would be helpful; I think you would need to know if the growth is cancerous or not. Good luck! Michele -- Original message -- From: "Viky Digangi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I adopted Mickey when he was about 5 months old and found out he was positive > for felv. For 8 years he displayed no signs of the virus until last December > when he fell in the garage about 8 feet and did not land on his feet. > Although > he was not seriously hurt this apparently triggered something with the virus. > He became lethargic and would not eat. My vet at the time began a series of > the > immuno regulen shots and after about 3 months began giving them to him every > two > weeks. > > Last week I awoke to find flood all over my bed and followed the trail of > blood > drops through the house to Mickey. He had an adenoma on his back leg (which I > had not noticed) which burst open. I took him to the vet I currently have and > he said normally he would perform surgery to remove it but in Mickey's > condition > surgery would be dangerous for him. The adenoma had stopped bleeding by now > so > I said ok. It was fine all week until yesterday and it burst open again. He > cannot keep losing blood this way and I was wondering if anyone else had > encountered a situation like this. I thought of asking my vet if he would > switch Mickey to prednisone to see if that would promote healing. > > Any suggestions? > > > Viky Digangi > > Viky Digangi > Support Enforcement Officer II > Monroe Regional Office > 318-362-5280 ext 297 > Fax 318-362-3363 > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?
Hi, I am sorry about Emma. As someone else mentioned the important thing is to find a good oncologist. It is possible that Emma does not have FeLV and that the test was a false positive. Does she have any symptoms of FeLV? My cat (FeLV negative) was diagnosed with Lymphoma about 5 years ago. She has had two round of chemo so far. The problem with the chemo is that causes diarrhea, vomiting and loss of appetite. I literally tried about 25 different brands of food to find something she'd eat, and many times I had to force feed her. Once we got through the chemo side-effects she is back to her old self and has gained weight. If you go through with the chemo and you find that the side-effects are too much, don't be afraid to ask the doctor to lessen the dosage. I did, and it made all the difference. There are some chemo drugs that are pills and can be administered at home. We used those as much as possible and my cat was able to avoid many vet visits. My cat takes prednisone and clavamox d aily and I imagine she always will. The clavamox is for the diarrhea. Good luck with Emma! Michele -- Original message -- From: "Adrienne Statfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello. My beloved Emma is 5 ½ years old. Two years ago she was diagnosed > as being FeLV+. > > I dont know how this happened. I raised Emma and her sisters from the time > they were about two days old. > > Her sisters are negative, as are my other cats, despite the fact that they > have all lived together as indoor only cats, and have groomed each other, > and shared bowls, litter boxes, and dishes. Emma tested negative for FeLV > as a kitten. She has never been outside except in a carrier. > > Yesterday, I got the news that Emma has Lymphoma. Ive started her on > Prednisone, and the doctor is recommending chemotherapy. The doctor > estimated an 8 to 10 month survival rate for cats with Lymphoma who go > through chemotherapy, but couldnt give me any idea of the prognosis for a > cat who has FeLV. > > > > Any opinion about chemotherapy for an FeLV+ cat with Lymphoma? Im > heartbroken and I dont want to do anything to prolong my beautiful girls > suffering. > > > > Thank you. > > Adrienne > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - Ants
Hi, There is a product named "Orange Guard" that works really well, smells great and is non-toxic. It is a bit expensive but it lasts a long time. You can buy it a bunch of places online. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi all, > > I am looking for something that will kill ants, yet not hurt my kitties. > > Thanks, > > Kelley > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures?
Hi, I don't think you could substitute steroids for phenobarbital as steroids don't have a sedating effect, more of an anti-inflammatory effect. I know valium is sometimes prescribed in addition to phenobarbital for seizures. We were so fortunate to find a great veterinary neurologist for our cat. The first two vets we went to said to euthanize the cat but I refused to and I searched out the neurologist and he acted like the seizures weren't such a huge deal. I love him! Please let us know what you find out when you get the lab results. You may actually have a physically healthy cat that just needs time to recover from psychological distress. Prozac may be helpful to him. Michele ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures?
Hi, I do have experience with feline seizures as I have a cat that suffered head trauma (before I rescued him). My cat is not aggressive in any way but he does display other odd behaviors. He does not play with toys and he is not interested in catnip. He's really not curious about anything. The phenobarbital is a strong sedative and I think that explains some of my cat's behavior. He is on a fairly high dose to help control the seizures. Have you checked the cat's mouth? I've found that sometimes cats freak out with medication because they have bad teeth or mouth sores. Is there any possibility that the couple abused the cat or that the cat had a head injury? The bloodied nails are a bit suspicious. We have carpeting and all the times my cat has had a seizure he's never gotten stuck in the carpet in any way, though I imagine it could happen. One common sign of brain injury or damage is when a cat walks in a tight circle over and over again. My cat does that and if he's doing it too much I have to give him extra medication to hopefully avoid a seizure. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I apologize for the length of this email but I need some help. It appears the > non-FELV kittens that I fostered a year ago in Sept.- whom all had severe > UTIs > and were rescued from the general population at Metro-- and whom I feel that > I > literally rescued from certain death due to the severity of their UTIs-- are > coming back to haunt me. You may recall that 2 of that group that I was > unable > to get my hands on to foster early enough I feel- I wasn't able to get to > them > until Dec.- ended up dying in late Jan. (Posse- maybe of wet FIP or a > congenital > heart defect- I believe the latter) and early Feb. (Brumley- maybe of dry FIP > or > Toxo). > > Well, one from this same group (we have no info about whether any are > littermates, but all were condo-mates and foster-mates at some point) was > returned to me yesterday. He was adopted out in Dec.- frankly- to a lady I > did > not want him to go to, but was forced b/c he was not my original rescue (it's > a > long story)- but she had clear health issues and this cat was always the most > hyperactive kitten I've ever fostered and I really suspected he would make > mince-meat of this old lady and her husband. > > They called yesterday to say he's been having seizures since the end of July. > He's been to the vet twice- shortly after the seizures started. I'm not clear > on what the vet did that first visit- the people said vet took blood, didn't > find anything, and the cat was doing okay until recently when the seizures > started again. I did have the vet fax me records, but I am having difficulty > reading her notes from the first visit for seizures. The adoptive parents say > he pulled out nails during the seizures on the carpet and he indeed seems to > have a few bloodied nails- but he won't let me touch them to examine. The vet > put him on clavamox for the nails. > > They took him to the vet yesterday morning again due to more seziures and the > vet took more blood to send off to the lab to check for FIV/FELV and most > importantly, Toxoplasmosis (he previously tested neg for Felv/FIV). We are > awaiting those results that won't be in until Monday at the earliest and of > course, I know ALL about the titers and the antibodies so I don't necessarily > expect the blood work to tell me much, unless of course his Toxo titers are > thru > the roof (but even still?). > > Other than his bloodied nails and just looking a tad more neglected than I > would > like (some dander, dirty back feet pads, getting fat- big belly droop that I > am > NOT happy about- the cat just turned 1!, and he had fleas (which the vet > treated > him for)), he looks like a wonderfully healthy cat. But then again, if he's > having neurological issues, I wouldn't necessarily expect him to look > unhealthy > on the outside. > > The adoptive parents called me b/c they said they cannot medicate him. They > were given Phenobaribitol to help control the seziures and Clavamox. The lady > said she couldn't get either in him b/c he is aggressive and has bit her many > times and scratched her.l The husband got on the phone and said his wife is > not > in good health, he's trying to care for her, and he "can't have the cat doing > that to her" so if I didn't come get him, he would put him down. I asked if > he > was willing to wait until the results of the blood panel JUST taken that > morning > came back (which they will have to pay for?) and he said no. So I knew I > wasn't > dealing with people like me and there was no way I was going to ask any more > questions other than those regarding his health and meds. > > I've had him since yesterday and I was able to medicate him, but then again, > come on, I'm good-- I have to admit that. I've
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Hi, We've had several FIV cats and they've all lived well into their teens. We didn't even start to see any health problems until they were older. One of our FIV cats is about 15 and she has only ever been to the vet for routine things. The one thing I would suggest is that you feed a really good quality diet and also that you get regular teeth cleanings. FIV cats tend to have teeth problems. Michele -- Original message -- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We have had a kitten since last summer when he was about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks > old. > He came back possitive FIV. He was tested again when he was about 9 or 10 > months old and sad to say, he was still possitive. So I guess he does have > FIV. > Not sure what to do now. Thanks, Robin P. > gary wrote: > > OK, here we go. > > > > The only reason to test a kitten for FIV before 6 months is to obtain a > negative test and know for certain the kitten does NOT have FIV and can be > adopted without the chance of FIV. We all know that MOST kittens who test > positive for FIV will test negative when retested around 6 months of age. > > > > For FeLV, the accuracy of the test itself is not affected by the age of the > kitten (at least I have never seen any data to indicate that) however, it can > take 1 to 3 months to develop FeLV antigens to a detectable level after > exposure. Some feel they are detectable in as little as 2 weeks. The vet is > just trying to avoid a false negative. > > > > Unfortunately, there has not been enough study done to know just how much > exposure and for what length of time it takes to infect a kitten or a cat. An > article in Shelter Medicine says, "FeLV can be spread transplacentally from > mother to offspring, but spread via nursing or grooming is more common." > http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_feline_felv.shtml > > > > They don't reference any data for that. Sort of leaves you in a tough place > if you have a know FeLV queen about to give birth, do the kittens already > have > it, or do you snatch them away as soon as they are born so they don't get it > from milk or grooming? > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Gary > > - Original Message - > > From: MaryChristine > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens > > > > > > i guess the question is this, tho i may be wrong: > > > > there is no point in testing for FIV until at least six months of age, > because both the ELISA and western blot test antibodies, and kittens will > show > their MOM'S antibodies until (and often for two or three motnsh beyond) then. > > > > is the only reason that the article i just read said you can test for FeLV, > which tests antigens instead of antibodies? why would the vet mentioned above > then say 3 months is the best age? > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi, I'm sorry that you had such an awful experience with Boo. My husband and I take care of special needs cats and it can be very heartbreaking. I think it is great that you will contact the Humane Society about this new kitty as it is obvious he is being neglected, at the very least. Hopefully he will not test positive and a good home can be found for him. Thanks! Michele -- Original message -- From: "Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michelle, when I purchased Boo I was told he had his vaccinations. I loved this cat so much I just wanted him at any cost and didn't bother asking for proof. When we took him to our vet to be cleaned up we found out he was positive. From that point on it was all downhill. Within 2 weeks we were taking him to have his lungs aspirated because he couldn't breathe. He was put on interferon but the vet had told me it was probably too late. He was scheduled for a blood transfusion but didn't make it to that point. I was so hurt and angry I called the Humane Society and told the field worker that they were selling all of their Himilayans because the owner could no longer take care of them due to illness and I was worried about other people running into the same problem as we did. He investigated them and told them they were responsible for informing any other new owners of the possibility of their cats being infected. I don't know what happened. He did come to my place as well to see our Snowy as is their policy to make sure we were suitable owners. He was not at all happy with Boo's owners as they played ignorance and basically accused us of causing his problems and insisted he was healthy when we got him. Well he wasn't and I'm certain they knew this. I will call this man and tell him what is going on and he will go and see them. He warned them he would be back. I have seen this cat in the window almost daily on my way to work but obviously they have let him out and he has been in fights. Boo was a very gentle smallish guy and no doubt got the disease from another cat in the neighborhood. Honestly if this cat were to test positive he would be better off dead than to live with them. They do not believe in vets and he would die a horrible death like Boo did. Our humane society has loosened their policy of euthanizing all positives and some of the shelters now take them. This cat seems to be quite frisky and definitely needs to be groomed and have his nails trimmed for sure. I will not let him wonder the neighborhood and like I mentioned, if he comes around again my husband has decided to call the field worker, have him tested and I'm betting we could have him if we wanted. I will call this man tomorrow and let him know what's happening. He will pay a visit to them and examine the cat. He has to if I lodge a complaint. I live in Ontario Canada and most of the shelters in my city are full so if he is positive I'm not sure what would happen to him. I can only pray he isn't and just needs a good home where people take care of him. Lynne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Hi Lynne, It sounds like the poor guy really needs some medical attention. Is he tame? Where do you live? Is there any way you can keep him in a pen or something and just get him tested for Felv? If he is positive he could spread it to all the other cats in the neighborhood. If you consider getting him tested I can help you find a rescue that will take him. If he is not positive than you can keep him if you want. If those people have any other animals I think you should call the Humane Society and have their animals removed. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Lynne, There is a reason you're seeing this little fellow, and I'm sure it's to help. But give yourself a little time to breath and make the decision on how to handle the situation, especially considering what you went through with BooBoo. It doesn't sound like you need to make the decision right away. Give it a little time and it will come to you. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:20:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is a
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Hi Lynne, It sounds like the poor guy really needs some medical attention. Is he tame? Where do you live? Is there any way you can keep him in a pen or something and just get him tested for Felv? If he is positive he could spread it to all the other cats in the neighborhood. If you consider getting him tested I can help you find a rescue that will take him. If he is not positive than you can keep him if you want. If those people have any other animals I think you should call the Humane Society and have their animals removed. -- Michele -- Original message -- From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Lynne, There is a reason you're seeing this little fellow, and I'm sure it's to help. But give yourself a little time to breath and make the decision on how to handle the situation, especially considering what you went through with BooBoo. It doesn't sound like you need to make the decision right away. Give it a little time and it will come to you. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:20:32 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally con fused right now. Lynne--- Begin Message --- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org --- End Message --- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
