Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
Did you know that there's screening available that is pet'proof? Our cats climb the screens, and we will replace them with the special ones. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I guess I am trying to say you can hold them inside a lot longer than estimated. I've had them in for 3-4 months. The thing is to build a relationship with them during that period. They see you with the food. I handle all the dry food with my hands so there is my odor. Etc. I like Feliway when they are in confined. Because she won't be released into a known area, developing that relationship is very important. Frankly, I have been very concerned moving or traveling with cats but have been successful in both several times. Ebony, a feral--ok all my guys/gals have been feral--went out on a leash for cats for a long time when we moved so he could learn where he was. The leash got longer and longer and...but he knew where he was. The boys I have now travel around in a carriage so they get a sense of home--it has paid off when ..left a door unlocked and Copper took unauthorized walk-abouts. Now they are familiar with lots of scents on the farm...they go for mile walks when the weather permits. All of this is to say that, with a lot of love and patience, you can do this. Frankly, I like the enclosed area. I did this for Ebony and Mi Tu then repeated it on the farm for Dixie. Now I want to replact it for the boys by way of a screened in porch...and a reenforced screened area for the ones I will bring over if Mom leaves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn't get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
I used chain link since a major goal was to protect the cats. I suspect I will use chicken wire to make a screened in porch here. The bugs don't bother me nearly as much as the thoughts of something harmful getting on the porch to be. On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Natalie wrote: Did you know that there’s screening available that is “pet’proof”? Our cats climb the screens, and we will replace them with the special ones. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I guess I am trying to say you can hold them inside a lot longer than estimated. I've had them in for 3-4 months. The thing is to build a relationship with them during that period. They see you with the food. I handle all the dry food with my hands so there is my odor. Etc. I like Feliway when they are in confined. Because she won't be released into a known area, developing that relationship is very important. Frankly, I have been very concerned moving or traveling with cats but have been successful in both several times. Ebony, a feral--ok all my guys/gals have been feral--went out on a leash for cats for a long time when we moved so he could learn where he was. The leash got longer and longer and...but he knew where he was. The boys I have now travel around in a carriage so they get a sense of home-- it has paid off when ..left a door unlocked and Copper took unauthorized walk-abouts. Now they are familiar with lots of scents on the farm...they go for mile walks when the weather permits. All of this is to say that, with a lot of love and patience, you can do this. Frankly, I like the enclosed area. I did this for Ebony and Mi Tu then repeated it on the farm for Dixie. Now I want to replact it for the boys by way of a screened in porch...and a reenforced screened area for the ones I will bring over if Mom leaves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn’t get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
Dont use chicken wire, it goes to pot very soon. Use ¼ or ½ hardware cloth, or even turkey-wire much more sturdy and you dont look like youre sitting in a chicken coop. Then you can staple or nail screening on the outside and not be bothered with flies/mosquitoes! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I used chain link since a major goal was to protect the cats. I suspect I will use chicken wire to make a screened in porch here. The bugs don't bother me nearly as much as the thoughts of something harmful getting on the porch to be. On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Natalie wrote: Did you know that theres screening available that is petproof? Our cats climb the screens, and we will replace them with the special ones. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I guess I am trying to say you can hold them inside a lot longer than estimated. I've had them in for 3-4 months. The thing is to build a relationship with them during that period. They see you with the food. I handle all the dry food with my hands so there is my odor. Etc. I like Feliway when they are in confined. Because she won't be released into a known area, developing that relationship is very important. Frankly, I have been very concerned moving or traveling with cats but have been successful in both several times. Ebony, a feral--ok all my guys/gals have been feral--went out on a leash for cats for a long time when we moved so he could learn where he was. The leash got longer and longer and...but he knew where he was. The boys I have now travel around in a carriage so they get a sense of home--it has paid off when ..left a door unlocked and Copper took unauthorized walk-abouts. Now they are familiar with lots of scents on the farm...they go for mile walks when the weather permits. All of this is to say that, with a lot of love and patience, you can do this. Frankly, I like the enclosed area. I did this for Ebony and Mi Tu then repeated it on the farm for Dixie. Now I want to replact it for the boys by way of a screened in porch...and a reenforced screened area for the ones I will bring over if Mom leaves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesnt get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
The mention of pet screening sent me searching. Did you know Pfifer als makes a no seeum screen. Those monsters make huge welts on me. Now the question is: do I need pet screen and no seeum to make a comfortable place for myself and the cats? I was going to use 1/4 wire cloth, but if pet screen keeps all the bad guys out, then all I need is bug protection. Would probably look nicer too. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Dont use chicken wire, it goes to pot very soon. Use ¼ or ½ hardware cloth, or even turkey-wire much more sturdy and you dont look like youre sitting in a chicken coop. Then you can staple or nail screening on the outside and not be bothered with flies/mosquitoes! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I used chain link since a major goal was to protect the cats. I suspect I will use chicken wire to make a screened in porch here. The bugs don't bother me nearly as much as the thoughts of something harmful getting on the porch to be. On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Natalie wrote: Did you know that theres screening available that is petproof? Our cats climb the screens, and we will replace them with the special ones. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... I guess I am trying to say you can hold them inside a lot longer than estimated. I've had them in for 3-4 months. The thing is to build a relationship with them during that period. They see you with the food. I handle all the dry food with my hands so there is my odor. Etc. I like Feliway when they are in confined. Because she won't be released into a known area, developing that relationship is very important. Frankly, I have been very concerned moving or traveling with cats but have been successful in both several times. Ebony, a feral--ok all my guys/gals have been feral--went out on a leash for cats for a long time when we moved so he could learn where he was. The leash got longer and longer and...but he knew where he was. The boys I have now travel around in a carriage so they get a sense of home--it has paid off when ..left a door unlocked and Copper took unauthorized walk-abouts. Now they are familiar with lots of scents on the farm...they go for mile walks when the weather permits. All of this is to say that, with a lot of love and patience, you can do this. Frankly, I like the enclosed area. I did this for Ebony and Mi Tu then repeated it on the farm for Dixie. Now I want to replact it for the boys by way of a screened in porch...and a reenforced screened area for the ones I will bring over if Mom leaves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesnt get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
The general time allotted for any cat that one plans to release in an area, is 4 weeks.that includes taking the cat outside to allow it to get to know the area, in increments. The cat must realize that this is her home, and she must learn the scent. If this were dead in the middle of winter, one cannot do it that way - snow deters a cat from learning any scents..some people move to a new place, and immediately allow their cat(s) to go outside, and if there's snow, bye bye cat... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I'm not completely sure of this, but I think that list advises AGAINST holding a cat you're going to TNR inside for that long unless it is ill and under treatment. The idea being that it will lose its sense of being an outside cat. They DO advocate, when relocating, holding the cat outside in a large cage for a few weeks to get them used to the yard and the idea that this is where food is. Hope this helps. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn't get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I'm not completely sure of this, but I think that list advises AGAINST holding a cat you're going to TNR inside for that long unless it is ill and under treatment. The idea being that it will lose its sense of being an outside cat. They DO advocate, when relocating, holding the cat outside in a large cage for a few weeks to get them used to the yard and the idea that this is where food is. Hope this helps. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
I have often wondered that if I had to move, what would I do about my cats. They are used to going out in the morning, but in a new place they might get lost trying to find their old home. Also, I might end up in town with cars and trucks. I have decided on an outdoor room. Then they can be outside and I won't have to worry about them. All of the ferals I have taken in have become my cats and come inside. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: The general time allotted for any cat that one plans to release in an area, is 4 weeks.that includes taking the cat outside to allow it to get to know the area, in increments. The cat must realize that this is her home, and she must learn the scent. If this were dead in the middle of winter, one cannot do it that way - snow deters a cat from learning any scents..some people move to a new place, and immediately allow their cat(s) to go outside, and if there's snow, bye bye cat... From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I'm not completely sure of this, but I think that list advises AGAINST holding a cat you're going to TNR inside for that long unless it is ill and under treatment. The idea being that it will lose its sense of being an outside cat. They DO advocate, when relocating, holding the cat outside in a large cage for a few weeks to get them used to the yard and the idea that this is where food is. Hope this helps. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
I guess I am trying to say you can hold them inside a lot longer than estimated. I've had them in for 3-4 months. The thing is to build a relationship with them during that period. They see you with the food. I handle all the dry food with my hands so there is my odor. Etc. I like Feliway when they are in confined. Because she won't be released into a known area, developing that relationship is very important. Frankly, I have been very concerned moving or traveling with cats but have been successful in both several times. Ebony, a feral--ok all my guys/gals have been feral--went out on a leash for cats for a long time when we moved so he could learn where he was. The leash got longer and longer and...but he knew where he was. The boys I have now travel around in a carriage so they get a sense of home--it has paid off when ..left a door unlocked and Copper took unauthorized walk-abouts. Now they are familiar with lots of scents on the farm...they go for mile walks when the weather permits. All of this is to say that, with a lot of love and patience, you can do this. Frankly, I like the enclosed area. I did this for Ebony and Mi Tu then repeated it on the farm for Dixie. Now I want to replact it for the boys by way of a screened in porch...and a reenforced screened area for the ones I will bring over if Mom leaves this world before they do..care is a lifetime commitment. On Aug 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Natalie wrote: The one concern is that Hemy is NOT being released in her own territory and if she doesn’t get used to Bonnie and her yard, may start searching for the old area. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but...
Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The place I bought the 42 crate: $77.95 and free shipping (Midwest Crate) http://www.petstreetmall.com/Midwest-I-1542DD-Double-Door-iCrate-Dog-Crate/7 853/2963/ I last used it for 2 young kitties who I'd been feeding outside who I knew wouldn't last the winter. Someone had lent me one of those hard sided dog crates but I found that it didn't allow much air to circulate they could only see out the front. With the wire crate, I used a sheet to drape over it sort of gave them a chance to see what was going on in the room at different side by lifting on side or another. I used a small covered litter box inside they did fine. I made a hammock using a small towel. Made holes in all 4 corners; attached STRONG rope; tied so that it hung above the floor towards the front of crate. This way, they had room to hang out without fighting for space on the floor or climbing over each other to get to the box. I could put their food dishes towards the front so that it wouldn't be close to the box. They loved lying in that hammock looking around! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hey Bonnie - No apologies necessary!! I would crack open a window in the bathroom (if it has a window). If it doesn't have a window - try bringing in some plants/soil/etc (in a pot) from the outside. Once she has gotten more used to you - set up a large crate (covered with a tarp) that is big enough to hold food/water/litter her box outside with her in it. She will be safe protected in the cage out of the elements (due to the tarp) can get acclimated to her surroundings. (I'm assuming the weather is not horrendous by you right now). Then you can let her out of the cage - but prop the cage door open so she can always get back in if she wants. Sending you good vibes for great success!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I use the Midwest crates, but I use two (door-to-door), twistem tie together. I use one as living room and food, the other for litter box and open from the top to clean/feed. If a cat is really feral, I slide a cardboard between the two cages to open one or the other top safely. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... The place I bought the 42 crate: $77.95 and free shipping (Midwest Crate) http://www.petstreetmall.com/Midwest-I-1542DD-Double-Door-iCrate-Dog-Crate/7 853/2963/ I last used it for 2 young kitties who I'd been feeding outside who I knew wouldn't last the winter. Someone had lent me one of those hard sided dog crates but I found that it didn't allow much air to circulate they could only see out the front. With the wire crate, I used a sheet to drape over it sort of gave them a chance to see what was going on in the room at different side by lifting on side or another. I used a small covered litter box inside they did fine. I made a hammock using a small towel. Made holes in all 4 corners; attached STRONG rope; tied so that it hung above the floor towards the front of crate. This way, they had room to hang out without fighting for space on the floor or climbing over each other to get to the box. I could put their food dishes towards the front so that it wouldn't be close to the box. They loved lying in that hammock looking around! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I like the suggestion of finding a Himalayan rescue that could take her in. L - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Can you put up a dog kennel with a topper? On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Folks I’m sorry to be monopolizing all this “air space” on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to ‘living outside’ again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt’s cat, Princess. I know this doesn’t sound like much to some of you, but it’s getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!)…. Again, I can’t thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I'm not completely sure of this, but I think that list advises AGAINST holding a cat you're going to TNR inside for that long unless it is ill and under treatment. The idea being that it will lose its sense of being an outside cat. They DO advocate, when relocating, holding the cat outside in a large cage for a few weeks to get them used to the yard and the idea that this is where food is. Hope this helps. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I'm sorry to be monopolizing all this air space on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to 'living outside' again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt's cat, Princess. I know this doesn't sound like much to some of you, but it's getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!).. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On that, I have had a few ferals that were held inside after vet treatment for various reasons: weather (very hot or cold etc), dangers (size and age of cat and the presents of packs of dogs, hawks etc) healing time + adjust time (they were returning to their own group), and just because of numerous other concerns. None of them have ever forgotten their nature. These ferals live at my Mom's but I am the primary servant. Mom's concerns have to be addressed. This is my experience only. On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: Bonnie, I would suggest going to the feral_cats Yahoogroup and reading the Files. You have to look a little, but there is good advice for dealing with all kinds of situations. You can join the group and just ask, of course, but they will respect you more if you look in the Files first. I’m not completely sure of this, but I think that list advises AGAINST holding a cat you’re going to TNR inside for that long unless it is ill and under treatment. The idea being that it will lose its sense of being an outside cat. They DO advocate, when relocating, holding the cat outside in a large cage for a few weeks to get them used to the yard and the idea that “this is where food is.” Hope this helps. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Sorry to Ask so much, but... Importance: High Folks I’m sorry to be monopolizing all this “air space” on the list this morning, but am trying to figure this out with this cat. So, if I decide to put her in my bathroom for a 2 to 3 weeks, as has been suggested, then how do I introduce her to ‘living outside’ again? I currently have 4 cats PLUS am trying to introduce my aunt’s cat, Princess. I know this doesn’t sound like much to some of you, but it’s getting a bit stress (maybe more for me than for the felines!)…. Again, I can’t thank you enough for sharing your information and experiences. I deeply appreciate you all! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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