Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Hi, Talked to my vet last night and she would be happy to talk with your vet once she's ready :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Yes it is the test he suggests and was sent to the lab he has listed on his website. I called them to ask how much they charged when I got the bill from my vet and they charge $120.00 per test. Maybe the cost he mentions is with his fee for handling and shipping. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Did your kitties get treated on his treatment? If so, how did it go? I am very curious because of my OB is getting thinner and thinner - and so is his hair..and I want to try it - Did you use Antech or Idexx lab? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo Yes it is the test he suggests and was sent to the lab he has listed on his website. I called them to ask how much they charged when I got the bill from my vet and they charge $120.00 per test. Maybe the cost he mentions is with his fee for handling and shipping. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
PS. I forgot to mention the first test she sent they never got, so maybe she charged me a little something for that, we had to draw blood a second time. Poor babies, they really hate that :( -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Hi, This is the lab on his website that he has listed as doing the test: National Veterinary Diagnostic Services (N.V.D.S) 27994 Bradley Rd., Suite 1 Sun City, CA 92586 Phone: (951) 672-1494 Website: www.national-vet.com Their cortisol was very low for both, their estrogen was alittle high on both, their T3 and T4 was normal for both and the IgA, IgM, IgG's were low on both. My vet put them both on prednisilone, and Joey was on metronidazole for his off and on diarrhea. But the most important thing was to get them both on hypoallergenic food, so I decided to make their food because everyone around here eats the same thing and the hypoallergenic was just too expensive and they didn't like it. It costs me about 7 or 8 dollars a day to feed them and I haven't got it down pat yet, I'm still working onthe supplements and figuring out how much to put in. I'm also trying to come up with a dry food by dehydrating because I have a few that are dry food junkies. It will probably be a good month before they are completly off of the Fancy Feast, right now they are getting 2/3 rds my stuff to 1/3 rd FF, but until I'm sure they are getting all of the supplements they need I can't take them completely off the FF, my vet is reseaching but there isn't much info for cooked homemade food, just raw :) The protocal he lists is for humans, I think my vet talked to him and that's where she got the treatment we're following (not positive of that though, it does say to replace the cortisol with pred, or some other choice on his protocal sheet). -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
They've been on it for a while but until I can afford to retest I really won't know how their levels are now and whether I need to adjust the dose they are getting. With Bailey being positive we have to be careful not to comprimise his immune system. Joey's diarrhea is much better, and Bailey is eating better, he was starting to lose weight but he also had stomastisis and had his teeth pulled, once that healed he was eating good again. They have both gained alittle weight. Joey also has mild to moderate cardiomyapathy we just found out, so we are also going to start treatment for that shortly. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
The only thing I did not like about it using steroid- He does mention about using natural type - have you ever looked into that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo They've been on it for a while but until I can afford to retest I really won't know how their levels are now and whether I need to adjust the dose they are getting. With Bailey being positive we have to be careful not to comprimise his immune system. Joey's diarrhea is much better, and Bailey is eating better, he was starting to lose weight but he also had stomastisis and had his teeth pulled, once that healed he was eating good again. They have both gained alittle weight. Joey also has mild to moderate cardiomyapathy we just found out, so we are also going to start treatment for that shortly. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
I think I did ask my vet about that and she said something about the way the pred works is better than a natural steriod for now. And they are getting a very miniscual dose 1/4ccs once a week. Even at their highest dose it was only 5ccs a day for 4 weeks, then we lowered it to 2ccs everyday for 4 weeks, then to 1 ccs daily for 4 weeks and then lowered it again to 1/2ccs daily for 4 weeks and then went to 1/2ccs every 3 days for 4 weeks, and now we're at 1/2ccs once a week (just started that this week) and if their symptoms stay good we'll probably stay there until I get them completely switched to homemade and then get them retested. So they have been on it for quite a while. I watch them very closely :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Interesting, thank you so much for your information - which state are you located at ? Was it easy to find a vet to follow dr. Plechner's approach? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo I think I did ask my vet about that and she said something about the way the pred works is better than a natural steriod for now. And they are getting a very miniscual dose 1/4ccs once a week. Even at their highest dose it was only 5ccs a day for 4 weeks, then we lowered it to 2ccs everyday for 4 weeks, then to 1 ccs daily for 4 weeks and then lowered it again to 1/2ccs daily for 4 weeks and then went to 1/2ccs every 3 days for 4 weeks, and now we're at 1/2ccs once a week (just started that this week) and if their symptoms stay good we'll probably stay there until I get them completely switched to homemade and then get them retested. So they have been on it for quite a while. I watch them very closely :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
I'm in Washington state and the vet I've used for years is very open to anything I suggest, I told her about it and faxed over some info and his website and she researched it and thought it sound interesting, she was surprised at their bloodwork results. She is always going to continued education conferences, infact she just got back and learned some new stuff about heart disease. Which is good since we are having to deal with it now. She is learning acupuncture and more holistic things. I've always said if she ever moves I'll have to sell my house and move too :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Oh my gosh - I thought I liked my vet - I just LOOOVE yours!! That's my kind of vet!! I would almost want to move to where you are now just so that your vet can take care of mine, too! (I have got over 50 of them - I do make lots of visit to the vet office)- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Do you think your vet would be willing to talk to my vet about her experience in treatment of Dr. Plechnner? I was going to talk to her about it, and I haven't - I am sure that she will be open to this, but I feel more comfortable if she can talk to someone who actually applied the practice like your vet - My vet, she is also a very nice special person, too. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Thank you, let me talk to my vet first to explain what I am thinking of as she has no information on this treatment at all at this moment - as soon as I get a chance, I will let you know. Basically, if possible, I would like your vet to answer any questions that my vet may have in terms of effectiveness or validity of the treatment from what she can tell from her experience - Thank you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo I can ask her, give me your vets number and exactly what you'd like her to talk to your vet about and I will ask her, I should be talking to her today or tomorrow. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
She probably won't have alot to say until I can get them all switched over to homemade food and get a retest on their bloodwork. I'm not going to retest them until they are on the homemade food completely. She can verify that they have both gained weight and Joey's allergy symptoms are better. He was getting scabs on the sides of his chin, being that his normal bloodwork was all OK, and with his continuous diarrhea we suspect IBD. Then when the special bloodwork came back showing his hormones are out of whack we decided to put them both on pred and it has helped as far as the diarrhea and the scabs, he gets them less frequently, and it takes months for all the toxins from the crap food to get out of their system, but until I get them completely off the Fancy Feast I won't really know how good they are actually doing. Just made a new batch of food and am dehydrating a batch for dry, only took me 2 hours to rollthem into bite size balls. I sure hope they eat it :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
