Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
I wish I could help, all I can do is lend moral support. I would still hide any I didn't want stolen under color of law, but I'm understandably a bit paranoid. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat > Network?): > > Talked to Sally and here's the situation: > > She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet. She is very worried > about two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats. IF they are seized they would > likely be put down immediately. What she needs most right now is some place > to put these cats for 4 to 6 weeks to see if the situation will blow over. > (She could use adoption assistance or additional foster space to move out > some other cats too but the positives are her biggest concern.) > > Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just go > away. Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just never came > back. So it may go away again. She does not want to antagonize them by > having an attorney make inquiries on her behalf and I tend to agree. > > She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area. We are > setting her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a dial up > connection for her before she takes the computer home. But she's paying for > AT&T DSL at home and needs someone in the San Jose area who can get that > working for her. > > > On 3/12/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is > > VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a > > couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see > > on "animal planet," unless the management is committed to power-within, and > > not power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement. > > > > send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please > > > > MC > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I'll try her again this evening too. > > > > > > Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their > > > local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually > > > pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By > > > comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > > > Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC > > > somewhere. > > > > > > On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and > > > > number but have not heard back from her. > > > > > > > > I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen > > > > really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my > > > > local > > > > ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in > > > > August > > > > and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. > > > > > > > > *Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure > > > > Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an > > > > unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the > > > > gestapo. Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is > > > > quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate > > > > additional fosters for the cats in her possession. > > > > Say a prayer everybody, > > > > Nina > > > > > > > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, > > > > or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that > > > > matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from > > > > getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > > > > > > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to > > > > cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave r
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
I could cross post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - list owner is in southern California, as I recall, great guy. Think that's ok? Gloria On Mar 16, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat Network?): Talked to Sally and here's the situation: She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet. She is very worried about two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats. IF they are seized they would likely be put down immediately. What she needs most right now is some place to put these cats for 4 to 6 weeks to see if the situation will blow over. (She could use adoption assistance or additional foster space to move out some other cats too but the positives are her biggest concern.) Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just go away. Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just never came back. So it may go away again. She does not want to antagonize them by having an attorney make inquiries on her behalf and I tend to agree. She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area. We are setting her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a dial up connection for her before she takes the computer home. But she's paying for AT&T DSL at home and needs someone in the San Jose area who can get that working for her. On 3/12/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on "animal planet," unless the management is committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement. send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please MC On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'll try her again this evening too. Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere. On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have not heard back from her. I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her possession. Say a prayer everybody, Nina SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley Subject: Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
Please cross-post selectively (anyone a member of the Homeless Cat Network?): Talked to Sally and here's the situation: She has not been cited, nothing in writing, yet. She is very worried about two FeLV+ kittens and two FIV+ cats. IF they are seized they would likely be put down immediately. What she needs most right now is some place to put these cats for 4 to 6 weeks to see if the situation will blow over. (She could use adoption assistance or additional foster space to move out some other cats too but the positives are her biggest concern.) Four years ago she had a run-in with animal control but it did just go away. Theyb gave her 60 days to get her numbers down and just never came back. So it may go away again. She does not want to antagonize them by having an attorney make inquiries on her behalf and I tend to agree. She also needs someone computer-savvy in the San Jose area. We are setting her up with a functioning computer and can at least set up a dial up connection for her before she takes the computer home. But she's paying for AT&T DSL at home and needs someone in the San Jose area who can get that working for her. On 3/12/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on "animal planet," unless the management is committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement. send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please MC On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll try her again this evening too. Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere. On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have not heard back from her. I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her possession. Say a prayer everybody, Nina SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone.... Kelley Subject: Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties -- Spay &am
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
If I ever encounter one, I will certainly do that. On 3/12/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL > that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple > in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on > "animal planet," unless the management is committed to power-within, and not > power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement. > > send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please > > MC > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I'll try her again this evening too. > > > > Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their > > local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually > > pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By > > comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive. > > > > > > > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere. > > > > > > On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number > > > but have not heard back from her. > > > > > > I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen > > > really good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my > > > local > > > ac really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in > > > August > > > and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. > > > > > > *Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure > > > Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an > > > unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the > > > gestapo. Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is > > > quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate > > > additional fosters for the cats in her possession. > > > Say a prayer everybody, > > > Nina > > > > > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or > > > whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter > > > if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting > > > their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > > > > > > > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > > > > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry > > > on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone > > > > > > Kelley > > > > > > > > >Subject: > > > Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: > > > Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: > > > > > > Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: > > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws > > > on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally > > > is > > > in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. > > > > > > I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law > > > pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to > > > have a > > > grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make > > > arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > Check out our Memsaic! > > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > Please help Clarissa! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart > > > > http://www.change.org/rescuties > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
there ARE good a/c officers out there--and when we find them, it is VITAL that we let them know how much they are appreciated. i even know of a couple in texas. too often, however, they are NOT like what people see on "animal planet," unless the management is committed to power-within, and not power-over, which is not the most usual attitude in law enforcement. send thank-you notes to the good acos you encounter, please MC On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll try her again this evening too. > > Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their > local feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually > pulled from animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By > comparison with what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive. > > > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere. > > On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number > > but have not heard back from her. > > > > I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really > > good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac > > really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August > > and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. > > > > *Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally > > will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable > > fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally > > doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking > > steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters > > for the cats in her possession. > > Say a prayer everybody, > > Nina > > > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or > > whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter > > if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting > > their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > > > > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on > > I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone > > > > Kelley > > > > > >Subject: > > Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: > > Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: > > > > Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws > > on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is > > in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. > > > > I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty > > well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace > > period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make > > arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. > > > > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help Clarissa! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart > > http://www.change.org/rescuties > > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
I'll try her again this evening too.
Several animal control agencies in the Bay Area actually notify their local
feral groups when an ear tipped cat comes in. Cats are actually pulled from
animal control and returned to their colonies around here. By comparison with
what I hear about elsewhere, it's really impressive.
Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere.
On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried calling last
night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have not heard back from
her.
I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good
rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really
impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally
will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable
fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally
doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps
to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the
cats in her possession.
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina
SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I
can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone....
Kelley
Subject:
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From:
Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San
Jose area, about an hour south of me.
I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty
well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on.
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
http://www.rescuties.org
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9
http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
Please help Clarissa!
http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart
http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
Hopefully she will call you back. I'm glad there is good AC somewhere. On 3/12/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but > have not heard back from her. > > I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really > good rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac > really impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August > and in the current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation. > > *Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally > will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable > fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally > doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking > steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters > for the cats in her possession. > Say a prayer everybody, > Nina > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or > whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter > if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting > their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I > can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone > > Kelley > > >Subject: > Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: > Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: > Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on > the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in > the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. > > I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty > well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace > period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make > arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
I tried calling last night but got voicemail. Lefft my name and number but have
not heard back from her.
I have always had a negative impression of ac too but I have seen really good
rescue/ac working relationships in the SF/Bay Area and my local ac really
impressed me with their light touch during my house fire in August and in the
current dealings with a really ugly hoarder situation.
Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally will
appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable fear of
animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally doesn't seem
to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps to address any
concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her
possession.
Say a prayer everybody,
Nina
SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or
whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I
absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil
hands on them, but that would be a last resort...
Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them.
Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I
can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone
Kelley
Subject:
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From:
Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the
books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San
Jose area, about an hour south of me.
I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty
well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace
period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make
arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on.
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
Thank you Susan and Kelley for your replies and concern. I'm sure Sally will appreciate any help or advice you can give her. I have an unreasonable fear of animal control, I think of them like I would the gestapo. Sally doesn't seem to be panicking the way I might, but she is quickly taking steps to address any concerns they may have and to locate additional fosters for the cats in her possession. Say a prayer everybody, Nina SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley Subject: Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on.
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
They'll probably stop harassing rescuers, about the time when the cities do some other things - like stop outlawing "pit bulls" instead of punishing the bad folks who fight and misuse these dogs... sigh. On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: ... When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
I hope the lawsuits are successful. I hope you are able to help Sally.:) On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > southern California has had a lot of problems. A friend was raided a year > and a half ago. There are a couple of law suits in play down there > already. However, the San Francisco/Bay Area, which includes San Jose, is > very different. > > California is a big state. The more rural/agricultural areas have a lot > of issues vis a vis rescues. The Bay Area, on the other hand, is very > rescue friendly. (For example, we have a very bad hoarder situation in my > area where ac actually asked rescues to intervene. No cats have been seized > by ac. We, i.e. local rescues, are working on it. And ac is giving us > the space and support to be effective.) > > I'll call Sally tonight and see what's going on. > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit. > Literally. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis > > Lots on this case in this blog: > > http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/ > > California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals. > > But I don't know about San Jose. > > > On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws > > on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is > > in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. > > > > I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty > > well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace > > period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make > > arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. > > > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > Nina, > > > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or > > whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter > > if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting > > their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on > > I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone > > > > Kelley > > > > On 3/11/08, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello All, > > > I just got off the phone with Sally Foster. Old timers may remember > > > her from the list. We became friends years ago when I first joined the > > > list > > > and Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on > > > her > > > shoulder. Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years. She's > > > always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open. > > > She > > > got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best > > > way > > > to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the > > > ones that turned her into animal control. Yes, here we go with another > > > nightmare. I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, > > > (they > > > didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then > > > they returned this week with a second officer and came inside. They were > > > making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't > > > indicate > > > what might be coming next. I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and > > > that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't > > > remember > > > if it's an actual permit or just verbal. > > > > > > Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals > > > in the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats. Sally's > > > computer is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through > > > my > > > email. Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be > > > able > > > to lend her some support or suggestions. I'm sure that even some kind > > > words > > > would be appreciated at this point. She's so disheartened thinking that > > > people she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy. > > > > > > Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while > > > asymptomatic, have tested positive... One is a friendly, outgoing orange > > > tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv. A marking on his face looks > > > like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz. The other two > > > are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago. They are 7 > > > mos > > > old. The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny > > > eyes, > > > but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are > > > symptom free and playful. She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange > > > tuxy/tabby. > > > > > > Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been a
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
southern California has had a lot of problems. A friend was raided a year and a half ago. There are a couple of law suits in play down there already. However, the San Francisco/Bay Area, which includes San Jose, is very different. California is a big state. The more rural/agricultural areas have a lot of issues vis a vis rescues. The Bay Area, on the other hand, is very rescue friendly. (For example, we have a very bad hoarder situation in my area where ac actually asked rescues to intervene. No cats have been seized by ac. We, i.e. local rescues, are working on it. And ac is giving us the space and support to be effective.) I'll call Sally tonight and see what's going on. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit. Literally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis Lots on this case in this blog: http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/ California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals. But I don't know about San Jose. On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nina, SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley On 3/11/08, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All, I just got off the phone with Sally Foster. Old timers may remember her from the list. We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her shoulder. Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years. She's always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open. She got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the ones that turned her into animal control. Yes, here we go with another nightmare. I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then they returned this week with a second officer and came inside. They were making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate what might be coming next. I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember if it's an actual permit or just verbal. Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats. Sally's computer is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email. Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend her some support or suggestions. I'm sure that even some kind words would be appreciated at this point. She's so disheartened thinking that people she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy. Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while asymptomatic, have tested positive... One is a friendly, outgoing orange tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv. A marking on his face looks like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz. The other two are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago. They are 7 mos old. The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are symptom free and playful. She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange tuxy/tabby. Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away from the list for so long. Please cross post to anyone that you think might be able to help. I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings. Some day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to. Nina -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
Um, I just yesterday saw a raid in LA that almost made me vomit. Literally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_kJ9nGiVis Lots on this case in this blog: http://laanimalwatch.blogspot.com/ California is definitely not on my list of safe places to own animals. But I don't know about San Jose. On 3/11/08, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on > the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in > the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. > > I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty > well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace > period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make > arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. > > *Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Nina, > > SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or > whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter > if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting > their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... > > Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. > > Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I > can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone > > Kelley > > On 3/11/08, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > I just got off the phone with Sally Foster. Old timers may remember her > > from the list. We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and > > Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her > > shoulder. Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years. She's > > always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open. She > > got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way > > to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the > > ones that turned her into animal control. Yes, here we go with another > > nightmare. I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they > > didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then > > they returned this week with a second officer and came inside. They were > > making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate > > what might be coming next. I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and > > that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember > > if it's an actual permit or just verbal. > > > > Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in > > the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats. Sally's computer > > is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email. > > Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend > > her some support or suggestions. I'm sure that even some kind words would > > be appreciated at this point. She's so disheartened thinking that people > > she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy. > > > > Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while > > asymptomatic, have tested positive... One is a friendly, outgoing orange > > tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv. A marking on his face looks > > like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz. The other two > > are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago. They are 7 mos > > old. The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, > > but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are > > symptom free and playful. She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange > > tuxy/tabby. > > > > Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away > > from the list for so long. Please cross post to anyone that you think might > > be able to help. I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings. Some > > day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to. > > Nina > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help Clarissa! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart > > http://www.change.org/rescuties > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
California and Texas are really different. We have very specific laws on the books governing seizures, very rescue friendly state laws. Sally is in the San Jose area, about an hour south of me. I'll call her and get some details. I know California rescue law pretty well. Let me find out what's going on here. She is likely to have a grace period to improve conditions and network with other rescues to make arrangements for the animals. But let me find out what's really going on. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nina, SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley On 3/11/08, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All, I just got off the phone with Sally Foster. Old timers may remember her from the list. We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her shoulder. Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years. She's always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open. She got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the ones that turned her into animal control. Yes, here we go with another nightmare. I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then they returned this week with a second officer and came inside. They were making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate what might be coming next. I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember if it's an actual permit or just verbal. Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats. Sally's computer is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email. Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend her some support or suggestions. I'm sure that even some kind words would be appreciated at this point. She's so disheartened thinking that people she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy. Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while asymptomatic, have tested positive... One is a friendly, outgoing orange tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv. A marking on his face looks like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz. The other two are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago. They are 7 mos old. The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are symptom free and playful. She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange tuxy/tabby. Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away from the list for so long. Please cross post to anyone that you think might be able to help. I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings. Some day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to. Nina -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Sally Foster needs some help in the San Fran area
Nina, SHE HAS TO MOVE THE CATS. I don't care if she has to board them, or whatever, but if AC has been there, they ARE COMING BACK. For that matter if I absolutely had to I would let them outside to keep AC from getting their evil hands on them, but that would be a last resort... Please, for the safety of the cats, she has to move them. Of course I am not in that areabut if she needs a shoulder to cry on I can call her tonight. When will AC leave rescuers alone Kelley On 3/11/08, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello All, > I just got off the phone with Sally Foster. Old timers may remember her > from the list. We became friends years ago when I first joined the list and > Sally was kind enough to offer me her phone number so I could cry on her > shoulder. Sally has been doing TNR and rescuing cats for years. She's > always been so helpful and compassionate and I guess a little too open. She > got into a discrepancy with one of her new foster parents about the best way > to care for kittens she placed with them and suspects that they were the > ones that turned her into animal control. Yes, here we go with another > nightmare. I think she said she had one officer visit the first time, (they > didn't enter the house, just talked with her about the conditions), then > they returned this week with a second officer and came inside. They were > making noises like the conditions were too crowded, but they didn't indicate > what might be coming next. I know that Sally has dealt with ac before and > that she has some sort of blessing from them to do rescue, I don't remember > if it's an actual permit or just verbal. > > Sally was wondering if I had contact info for rescues or individuals in > the bay area that might be able to help her foster cats. Sally's computer > is down so any communication will have to be by phone or through my email. > Sally's phone number is 408-365-0330 if you think you might be able to lend > her some support or suggestions. I'm sure that even some kind words would > be appreciated at this point. She's so disheartened thinking that people > she trusted may have put her cats in jeopardy. > > Sally is especially concerned about 3 of her charges, that while > asymptomatic, have tested positive... One is a friendly, outgoing orange > tuxy/tabby boy that has tested pos for fiv. A marking on his face looks > like a Mercedes Benz emblem so she's been calling him Benz. The other two > are littermates that tested pos for felv about 2 weeks ago. They are 7 mos > old. The little boy had swollen glands and the little girl had runny eyes, > but since she's started them on feline interferon injections they are > symptom free and playful. She's a long haired tortie and he's an orange > tuxy/tabby. > > Thank you for allowing me to reach out to you guys when I've been away > from the list for so long. Please cross post to anyone that you think might > be able to help. I do miss you all and wish you so many blessings. Some > day I hope to have the strength and energy to participate the way I used to. > Nina > > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
