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Laurie, Just give me a call at 740-992-5782. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form. Should I be used the Transfer Factor Nano Plus instead? She is not FeLV+ but is not a good eater. Thanks, Laurie (ps I can call if you would rather...) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here...
Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Karen, Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen any trials with TF with feline heart disease patients? I have a kitty who has a severe congenital heart defect. She's going on 4, fingers crossed. Kelley On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.netwrote: Judy, I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kelly, Haven't seen any research on congenital heart defect. Have used it (Transfer Factor) with several very old cats including one of mine that died at known over 25 yrs of age. He, before TF would fill up abdominally and around lungs and heart (severe respitory distress due to fluid build up).. After 1 TF/day and no other treatment, would do fine with in 2 days, and continue to improve. Abdominal swelling gone, respitory distress alleviated, normal eating and breathing. Not saying it will help heart defect, but found it to decrease vascular inflammation and do away with the usual abdominal/lung filling of fluid associatiated with cardiac failure. After his diagnosis of cardiac, liver, kidney failure, he lived another 9 years. Keep in mind that this is just one case with no double blind control. Just my experience with TF in this situation. Karen Griffith -740-992-5782 - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Karen, Sorry to go off topic, but have you seen any trials with TF with feline heart disease patients? I have a kitty who has a severe congenital heart defect. She's going on 4, fingers crossed. Kelley On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.netwrote: Judy, I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Karen, I have Feline Transfer Factor in powder form. Should I be used the Transfer Factor Nano Plus instead? She is not FeLV+ but is not a good eater. Thanks, Laurie (ps I can call if you would rather...) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Judy, I just noticed that your kitty is having breathing problems. That worried me. In all of my treatments for FeLV, I use Transfer Factor Plus in addition to other supportive treatments depending upon the symptoms .You can do what you want, but the only reason that I paid the money and became a distributor was so that I could order it at wholesale. I was using it on multiple species and with the amount that I was using it just made sense to pay the money to become a distributor to get it wholesale. (By the way, I and my 84 yr old cancer surviving mother who mows 2 acres of grass with a push mower and rakes it by hand both take it.) I have seen great improvement in surrounding cardiac fluid decrease, liver and kidney malady fluid problems remedied with the treatment of TF (all of which can cause breathing difficulties and fluid build-up around the lungs and heart). I can't go into the trials I have done tonight because I have 2 mares ready to foal. I would suggest your kitty to take one Transfer Plus Nano Factor/day. Hopefully it will decrease the fluid about the lung and heart. My ID number is 6109801 and the company's toll free number is 888-454-3374 . I would also suggest that you buy some fresh chicken livers and slow cook them on a low heat until the outsides appear cookedleave the centers a bit pink. Use the water from the cooking as drinking water for your cat and feed the livers as best you can. (Whole, chopped, mashed.) Maybe need to mash them, cut them up, etc. Whatever, put all water and livers in a closed container for further feeding, to decrease O2 from mixing. The boiled water will have better hydrating effects, as we used to call it'Heavy Water...Will have increased hydration plus increased iron content. Put this for drinking water separately or over anything the cat will eat to help the anemia and fluid replenishment. Feed the liver as best you can, (In addition to the Nutrical) and as needed sub/cut Lactated Ringers (previous email). If your kitty resumes appetite, I am a big fan of a raw diet (I can send recipes if that occurs), as this is what nature gave the feline for the best immune support. Keep in mindeven the Wal-mart diet food, if that is what your cat wants to eat is great. Food in any form is good! What ever the cat will eat is great. Don't worry about this diet or that. (And that is from an Animal Nutritionist.) Just get the cat to eat something it will eat. Good luck, and good eating to your feline friend. Karen Griffith 740-992-5782 P.S. Here is a non-company, non-distributor site to read a few abstracts of research papers (human), but will give you an idea of Transfer Factors' effectiveness. (Click on all of the links from overseas.) As a nurse you will appreciate the results. http://www.transferfactorresearch.com/research1.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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How were his liver values? He isn't yellow at all (whites of eyes, insides of ears)? Just worry about hepatic lipidosis, the couple of run ins we've had with it were very, very sick cats but a friend just had a rescue who looked so good (also eating pretty well) they had no idea she was jaundiced though there was yellow they were missing. If so she should be on a SAME med like denosyl or denamarin and likely some other supplements as well, with force feeding or a feeding tube. I'm not an expert but wanted to mention--keep up posted! On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com wrote: This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome! Glad you are here and sorry for reason. But, it isn't a death sentence! My FeLv+ cats, Squeaky and Stripes lived to ages 22 and 16. Re Wilson, it is really important to get him eating asap. Cats, unlike humans, cannot go long without eating their normal amount of food. They risk liver failure after 24-48 hours of not eating their normal amount of food. When this happen, they don't want to eat. Please consider also joining Feline Assisted Feeding for information about food needs and feeding options. For my anorexic cats, vets have suggested canned Fancy Feast, canned Friskies and chicken baby food (without garlic). A friend with a sanctuary recommends Whiskas in packets with cheese. Weruva canned Paw Lickin chicken, Solid Gold canned tuna and canned Petguard Turkey and Barley Lite, human salmon, human canned mackerel and cooked tilapia have been irresistible for my cats. They also like Wellness turkey and salmon. Isabella, FeLV+, likes dry EVO and canned Fancy Feast. My FeLV+ cats have not had eating issues but other cats with whom I share my home have. Have you tried baking a chicken thigh (dark meat) or even (gag) Kentucky Fried chicken? Laurie (Iowa) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Judy Eaton Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:57 PM To: Feline leukemia Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Judy We all know what a heartbreak a Felv diagnosis is, but as all of us on this list know, there is always hope. Have you tried Nutri-cal? Although I have never used it, I have heard it described as a highly caloric paste that is used to help cats maintain weight and also to stimulate their appetite. I have a 3 year old who was diagnosed when we got her when she was around a year. She was highly symptomatic (URI, swollen glands, chronic diarrhea, stomatitis etc) and it took several months for her to recover, but she has and she is living an (almost) normal and active life. If you can get help with his eating issues, there is always hope that he will recover and begin to feel like a 'normal' kittie. There is always hope and there are people on this list who have cats who are living far beyond statistics. Hoping Wilson Combat can recover. Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Judy Eaton wrote: This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith wrote: Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/ Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Dear all Just been reading the most recent postswhere Imulan is mentioned, is it shorthand for LCTI ---Imulan's product? I just want to be clear -- I only just heard of this product. Thanks, Kerry On 23/04/2009, at 5:55 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith wrote: Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/ Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would be interested as well. Just today, I was discussing this treatment with Tommy's vet. - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith wrote: Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/ Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Judy, the link to the Assist Feeding group is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ As Laurie said it is important to get enough calories into Wilson. Often gently warmed meat baby food will entice kitties to eat. It is easy to syringe and some kitties will lick it off a baby spoon. Hugs to Wilson Sharyl --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 6:33 PM Welcome! Glad you are here and sorry for reason. But, it isn't a death sentence! My FeLv+ cats, Squeaky and Stripes lived to ages 22 and 16. Re Wilson, it is really important to get him eating asap. Cats, unlike humans, cannot go long without eating their normal amount of food. They risk liver failure after 24-48 hours of not eating their normal amount of food. When this happen, they don't want to eat. Please consider also joining Feline Assisted Feeding for information about food needs and feeding options. For my anorexic cats, vets have suggested canned Fancy Feast, canned Friskies and chicken baby food (without garlic). A friend with a sanctuary recommends Whiskas in packets with cheese. Weruva canned Paw Lickin chicken, Solid Gold canned tuna and canned Petguard Turkey and Barley Lite, human salmon, human canned mackerel and cooked tilapia have been irresistible for my cats. They also like Wellness turkey and salmon. Isabella, FeLV+, likes dry EVO and canned Fancy Feast. My FeLV+ cats have not had eating issues but other cats with whom I share my home have. Have you tried baking a chicken thigh (dark meat) or even (gag) Kentucky Fried chicken? Laurie (Iowa) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Judy Eaton Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:57 PM To: Feline leukemia Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Jane, I am in no way connected to Immulan. Personally, I feel there has not been enough control group research on the product, and not enough availability of what research there has been. Having said that, I have seen some improvement of symptoms with it's use in one of my client's cats. (She decided to give it a try on it's own with a couple of kitties, and also used it in combination with Transfer Factor Plus, where she found better results.) I myself have not used it. Will wait until it has been on the market a bit longer and see if there are side effects, etc. I am associated with 4- Life Transfer Factor, as I had used it in many situations, read over 600 research paper on it, and myself ran several trials where antibiotics and other meds didn't do the job. I found it very useful in the treatment of URI's, chronic infections, FeLV, non-healing wounds, EPM, joint-ill in foals, tumor regression, etc. After seeing it's success in these varying situations, and the amount I was using, I became a distributor. As far as feeding the cat with little to no appetite, Nutrical works very well as a food replacement and is very palatable. It is foaling season here, so am called out most every night to deliver a baby (equine), but will set down soon and write what I have found to be helpful for the FELV kitties. Karen - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... Hi Karen I would be interested ( as would everyone on this list) in knowing about the success you have had in treating Felv. Are you representing or connected in anyway with Immulan ? Thanks Jane On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Karen Griffith wrote: Judy, Sorry to hear about your Wilson's test results. You will receive much good advise from the members here. I am an Animal Scientist/ Animal Nutritionist from Ohio State University. Feel free to call me at 740-992-5782. I have had much success with FELV+ kitties and can speak with you personally and fill you in on what I have found to be the best protocol / support / treatment options. (This offer also goes to anyone on the list that would like some help. For those wondering about the Immulan, I have one client using it with additional treatments with success. Did not have the luck she had hoped for with it alone.) Looking forward to speaking with you. The best time to reach me is after 9 pm EST. Karen Griffith - Original Message - From: Judy Eaton jude...@yahoo.com To: Feline leukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] I'm new here... This is my introductory note to you guys. I am Judy Eaton and live in Richland, Oregon, a tiny, remote farming community. I am a lifelong animal lover, especially of cats, and have owned many. Currently, I have an 11 month old grey tabby, Wilson Combat, who is fel leuk positive. I found out about the diagnosis when I had him neutered at 5 months, and last weekend had him checked again, due to lethargy, no appetite, and third eyelid over one eye. He is still positive. His blood was checked, and actually his count was pretty good. However, he still isn't eating, and just moping around. I have offered him every kitty treat I can think of( cooked chicken, hamburger, tuna), with no luck. He purrs, and looks good,no vomiting or diarrhea, but the anorexia has to lead to major weight loss. Do these cats get better and then worse in cycles? I would suspect that. I am an RN and have had comparable experiences with people with devastating diagnoses, and guessed that this cat's case may be similar. I am so sad about all this, and I guess I just need some support! We are letting him go outside. He has his own kitty door...We are very isolated, and my husband and I want him to be as happy as he can be. I know the risks. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
