Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-28 Thread Lynda Wilson

The saliva test is not recommended. It's not accurate at all.

Lynda

-Original Message- 
From: katskat1

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

Oh yeah, there is a saliva test.  The vet takes a swab from inside the
cheek of the cat, then puts it in a test tube with purified water and
maybe something else, I don't know.  If the swab turns blue within 5
minutes the cat is supposedly positive.  Then, if it hasn't turned
blue, she takes it out and puts it in a different solution that is
supposed to make it turn blue to confirm she had a good test.



On 11/26/12, Lee Evans  wrote:

Both ELISA/SNAP and IRA use blood drawn from the cat.  The saliva test is
something else entirely.  I think it is supposed to test in much the same
way as the ELISA/SNAP for the same thing.  I don't think there's a saliva
test that tests for the virus in the bone marrow (IFA).  Anyone have a
definite answer to this?



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!







From: Kathryn Green 
To: Beth 
Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


Oops wait a minute I re read your email.  It is the other way around isn't
it.  SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for 
bone

marrow?
Kt
Kathryn Green  wrote:
OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
"saliva" test right?
Thanks.  That helps a lot!
Kat
Beth  wrote:
The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs 
around

$100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone
marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.



Beth


Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org





From: Kathryn Green 
To: Kathryn Hargreaves 
Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


So which is the "snap" test?  Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it 
would

be to reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  
wrote:


I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested 
again
and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many 
rescues,

I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.





Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!







From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading:
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-28 Thread katskat1
Oh yeah, there is a saliva test.  The vet takes a swab from inside the
cheek of the cat, then puts it in a test tube with purified water and
maybe something else, I don't know.  If the swab turns blue within 5
minutes the cat is supposedly positive.  Then, if it hasn't turned
blue, she takes it out and puts it in a different solution that is
supposed to make it turn blue to confirm she had a good test.



On 11/26/12, Lee Evans  wrote:
> Both ELISA/SNAP and IRA use blood drawn from the cat.  The saliva test is
> something else entirely.  I think it is supposed to test in much the same
> way as the ELISA/SNAP for the same thing.  I don't think there's a saliva
> test that tests for the virus in the bone marrow (IFA).  Anyone have a
> definite answer to this?
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Kathryn Green 
>>To: Beth 
>>Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>>
>>
>>Oops wait a minute I re read your email.  It is the other way around isn't
>> it.  SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone
>> marrow?
>>Kt
>>Kathryn Green  wrote:
>>OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
>> "saliva" test right?
>>Thanks.  That helps a lot!
>>Kat
>>Beth  wrote:
>>The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs around
>> $100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone
>> marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.
>>
>>
>>
>>Beth
>>
>>
>>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kathryn Green 
>>To: Kathryn Hargreaves 
>>Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>>
>>
>>So which is the "snap" test?  Or is it something else??
>>Kat
>>Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
>>Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
>>  ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
>> be to reconcile with the ELISA.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>>
>>I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
>> test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
>> strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
>> and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
>> I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
>> with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
>>> neighbors too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Lorrie 
>>>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>>>>8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
>>>>were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
>>>>the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>>>>the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>>>>boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
>>>>don't make it past aa year or so.
>>>>
>>>>Lorrie
>>>>
>>>>___
>>>>Felvtalk mailing list
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
>>
>>
>&

Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Lee Evans
Both ELISA/SNAP and IRA use blood drawn from the cat.  The saliva test is 
something else entirely.  I think it is supposed to test in much the same way 
as the ELISA/SNAP for the same thing.  I don't think there's a saliva test that 
tests for the virus in the bone marrow (IFA).  Anyone have a definite answer to 
this?


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: Kathryn Green 
>To: Beth  
>Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
> 
>
>Oops wait a minute I re read your email.  It is the other way around isn't it. 
> SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone marrow?
>Kt
>Kathryn Green  wrote:
>OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the "saliva" 
>test right?
>Thanks.  That helps a lot!
>Kat
>Beth  wrote:
>The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs around 
>$100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, 
>meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.
>
>
>
>Beth
>
> 
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
>
>
>
>
> From: Kathryn Green 
>To: Kathryn Hargreaves  
>Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
> 
>
>So which is the "snap" test?  Or is it something else??
>Kat
>Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
>Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
>are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
>reconcile with the ELISA.
>
>
>On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>
>I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
>in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
>positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
>negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
>test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
>rescues for the past 6 years now.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>>neighbors too!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: Lorrie 
>>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>>> 
>>>
>>>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>>>8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
>>>were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
>>>the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>>>the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>>>boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
>>>don't make it past aa year or so.
>>>
>>>Lorrie
>>>
>>>___
>>>Felvtalk mailing list
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>>>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>
>Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
>
>
>If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
>life.  Contact your local pound for information. 
>
>
>If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
>free up cage space.
>
>
>Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
>implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/
>
>Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
>http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)
>
>Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
>
>More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
>
>More fun watching: 
>http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to 
>respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
Oops wait a minute I re read your email. It is the other way around isn't
it. SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone
marrow?

Kt

Kathryn Green  wrote:

OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
"saliva" test right?

Thanks. That helps a lot!

Kat

Beth  wrote:

The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs around
$100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone
marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>


  --
*From:* Kathryn Green 
*To:* Kathryn Hargreaves 
*Cc:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

So which is the "snap" test? Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!


  --
*From:* Lorrie 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.
<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537


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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the
"saliva" test right?

Thanks. That helps a lot!

Kat

Beth  wrote:

The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs around
$100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone
marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>


  --
*From:* Kathryn Green 
*To:* Kathryn Hargreaves 
*Cc:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
*Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

So which is the "snap" test? Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.


Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!


  --
*From:* Lorrie 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.
<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537


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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab & costs around 
$100 depending on your area & tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, 
meaning the cat will not throw off the virus.


Beth

 
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 From: Kathryn Green 
To: Kathryn Hargreaves  
Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

So which is the "snap" test?  Or is it something else??
Kat
Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in 
a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Lorrie 
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>> 
>>
>>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>>8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
>>were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
>>the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>>the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>>boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
>>don't make it past aa year or so.
>>
>>Lorrie
>>
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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902




Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to 
respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Green
So which is the "snap" test? Or is it something else??

Kat

Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:

Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
> test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
> strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
> and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
> I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
> with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
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> *From:* Lorrie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>
> I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
> 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
> were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
> the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
> the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
> boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
> don't make it past aa year or so.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
Yes, even a positive cat can have a good life. I have 4 positives right not (in 
addition to my 2 negatives). They are happy & healthy.

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 From: Lynda Wilson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the 
virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome.
 
Beth is correct!  Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier 
than 90 days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an 
IFA. If the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty 
can’t clear the virus.
 
Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Hugs to you and your kitten!
 
Lynda
 
  
From: Beth 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
  An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply 
means it is in the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw 
off the virus. I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it 
is still positive I would test him on the IFA.

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 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 
2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

 
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false 
negatives.    ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if 
you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. 
 
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

I  don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
in  a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong  
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and  it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had  the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with  20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter  your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors  too!
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Lorrie 
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>Sent: Saturday, November  24, 2012 10:49 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>>
>>
>>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued 
kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>>8 weeks old and I just had him 
tested again.  This time the results
>>were a "light pos."  They 
told me it just barely turned positive on
>>the test.  Would this 
indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>>the virus? I LOVE this 
kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>>boy, and I'm praying I 
don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
>>don't make it past aa 
year or 
so.
>>
>>Lorrie
>>
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their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: 
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sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Lynda Wilson
Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the 
virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome.

Beth is correct!  Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier than 90 
days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an IFA. If 
the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty can’t 
clear the virus.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Hugs to you and your kitten!

Lynda



From: Beth 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in 
the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. 
I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still 
positive I would test him on the IFA.


Beth


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From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA. 

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

  I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, 
in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.




  Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!






From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
    Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat


I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Beth
An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in 
the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. 
I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still 
positive I would test him on the IFA.

Beth

 
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 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
 

Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.    ELISAs 
are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to 
reconcile with the ELISA.


On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in 
a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Lorrie 
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>> 
>>
>>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>>8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
>>were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
>>the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>>the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>>boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
>>don't make it past aa year or so.
>>
>>Lorrie
>>
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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-26 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.
 ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would
be to reconcile with the ELISA.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate
> test, in a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested
> strong positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again
> and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues,
> I had the IFA test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living
> with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Lorrie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
>
> I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
> 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
> were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
> the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
> the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
> boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats
> don't make it past aa year or so.
>
> Lorrie
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
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<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/>

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar)

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-25 Thread Lee Evans
I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in 
a month do the IFA test on him.  I had an adult cat who tested strong 
positive.  I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was 
negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA 
test done and it was also negative.  Moses has been living with 20 of my 
rescues for the past 6 years now.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: Lorrie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
> 
>I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
>8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
>were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
>the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
>the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
>boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
>don't make it past aa year or so.
>
>Lorrie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat

2012-11-25 Thread Lorrie
I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten.  He tested FelV pos. at
8 weeks old and I just had him tested again.  This time the results
were a "light pos."  They told me it just barely turned positive on
the test.  Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off
the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much.  He is such an affectionate
boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him.  So many FelV positive cats 
don't make it past aa year or so.

Lorrie

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