Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
I could use the links/recipe for my pride. Right now they get dry duck alternated with canned and the mice,moles, voles and srews they catch outside. They very seldom get a bird because theya are too fast for them. I have a neighbor who raises rabbits for food and I could get one from him. I tried one, but just gave it to them and they backed off from it. I think it was bigger than they are and that bothered them. Found one recipe that said use ground meat, bones, organs, the whole animal. Yes or no? I have noticed that when they catch a mouse, or mole, they never eat the organs. Any reason why? Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot -- *From:* Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's
Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply
Dot, I can relate to your cost situation, I don't have ferals, but 7 indoor/outdoor cats of my own and it does get pricey. Half were feral, rest were given up by owners and the sucker culd not turn them away. I aerage $100.00 per month on food and litter (Worlds Best because it is corn based and not clay). I like Worlds Best because it is lighter weight, last longer and can be composted. Good luck in your search for food. dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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mailmail pg - Hi. Reading your email, how do you get the free food. I still don't quite understand. You also vet them as you said. Please explain. Are they ferals that you have trapped and kept indoors? Or do you mean that you trap them, neuter and release and vet them when necessary? Sorry - I did not understand and am trying to learn some things so that I can help my 7 outdoor cats. dotty From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? The cats get free food, shelter and the best care we can provide cats that have to be trapped to be vetted. I can provide worming and some other things without touching them but they are cautiousas they should be. It has kept them alive for a long time and allowed them to have a good life ... not the life I would like for them but the life they are born to. If they are going to eat and enjoy the protection we can give them, they make the trip to the vet. Some have managed to avoid trapping for really long times but I do insist and, eventually, they make that trip. We don't have a lot of money either so I do understand. Right now there are 6 ferals plus those who wander by and go on. We don't belong to a program either. We just believe this is something we need to do. Otherwise there would be zillions of cats/kittens here and finding homes is almost impossible. I have always had house cats who were feral at one time and consider them the smartest of cats but they are all very independent...even those that came in when they were very little kittens. Unfortunately, most people want cats who are lap cats or less independent or whatever and don't want to spend the time necessary with ferals. On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:21 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight Dozens of years re feeding. We trap, s/n and release. That is the price of free food. I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends. When I moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at that house. I visited when I could and furnished the food. We have fed ferals at Mom's for as long as I can remember. And calling a shelter will probably result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for. On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi. I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - I didn't see any replies. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat feeding. I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now. I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery. I have no-one else to feed the cats. I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight. Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper. I also could try to help in the adoption process. ALSO, my other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats? I am thinking this cannot go on forever. Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't find adoptions? Any input on this, would be great. Thanks From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites? I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no cancer. I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites
Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/FREE FOOD
MailMail pg - ok I read further your e-mail. That is a good idea - I'll visit Petco where I buy my indoor cats food. And see if they can donate any torn or damaged bags. Anything in particular i should tell them about what i am doing or why that would help them want to give me free food? I also was watching the tv show Extreme Couponing. One woman bought boxes and boxes of cat food at the supermarket for free with her coupons - it is science they have down pat. Dotty From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Or expired food. It is still good. On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:31 PM, GRAS wrote: You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any torn/damaged bags of dry food – most will gladly donate them. That’s right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth! Go to www.chipin.com – you’d be surprised what people collect money for, a party, a present for someone, and serious stuff! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!~WRD000.jpg www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot -- *From:* Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze. Dry food should never be the ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK. Unfortunately, many people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats because of what they put into it. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot _ From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com
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On that note, talk to some of the small groceries and or meat shops. I get a lot of quick sale meat...still very good...for my guys. I got a pound and a half + of sirloin tip for $2 today. That will make 8 meals for the two inside cats + 4 meals for the dog. I add green beans and other things to the dog's diet but not so much the cats and vary their food frequently. I just had geriatric blood work done on all three even though they aren't that old and the results were wonderful. And they all have very clean teeth. This beats even cheap canned food and I know what they are eating. On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk
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Ok, I goofed. My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck. How do I break the adiction? GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze. Dry food should never be the ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK. Unfortunately, many people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats because of what they put into it. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot _ From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's
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If they won't go cold turkey, start adding small amounts of the food you want them to eat, gradually increasing it and decreasing the amounts of the food you don't want them to eat. You'll end up by crumbling the dry food onto the full portion of the new food, and then you can test if you can stop that, too. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Ok, I goofed. My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck. How do I break the adiction? GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze. Dry food should never be the ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK. Unfortunately, many people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats because of what they put into it. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot _ From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound
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Here's some great info on cats: http://www.catinfo.org/ Do your cats not like canned food? Have you ever tried? I would prepare a dish with 1/2 the normal amount of dry food and next to it some canned food. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Ok, I goofed. My guys are on dry blue buffalo duck. How do I break the adiction? GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Feeding dry food to outside cats is often the only option, especially in the winter, so that the food doesn’t freeze. Dry food should never be the ONLY food for cats, but as a supplement, it’s OK. Unfortunately, many people feed only dry food. It was found that dry food is extremely addictive to cats because of what they put into it. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best commercial canned food out there (currently Merrick Before Grain, even though Merrick has had some complaints about their dog food). That's about 70 cents/day/cat, and you could probably be doing it for 35 cents/day/cat. You'll also save on vet bills for diabetes, etc., and they won't be as susceptible to urinary problems, which can kill a male in hours before you even notice it. A local pet store gives me outdated raw and canned food. (I refuse the dry food, as it's so bad for cats.) If you let them know you're feeding ferals, one of yours may do the same. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Talk to local rescues. Our rescue strictly uses Science Diet, so when people donate other kinds of food, they give it to volunteers or feral feeders. Sometimes it's really high quality food, sometimes not. We also have something called Daffy's Pet Soup Kitchen which provides food to people who cannot afford it. There are 2 organizations like that in our area. The best thing to do would be to get friendly with a shelter that can provide you with info on resources. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply Hi Beth - how do I find out about places that donate food? Or how do I get it at cost? I work alone and don't belong to an organization. thanks, Dot _ From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter
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Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight Dozens of years re feeding. We trap, s/n and release. That is the price of free food. I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends. When I moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at that house. I visited when I could and furnished the food. We have fed ferals at Mom's for as long as I can remember. And calling a shelter will probably result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for. On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi. I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - I didn't see any replies. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat feeding. I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now. I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery. I have no-one else to feed the cats. I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight. Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper. I also could try to help in the adoption process. ALSO, my other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats? I am thinking this cannot go on forever. Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't find adoptions? Any input on this, would be great. Thanks From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites? I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no cancer. I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites? My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any torn/damaged bags of dry food - most will gladly donate them. That's right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth! Go to www.chipin.com - you'd be surprised what people collect money for, a party, a present for someone, and serious stuff! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. _ attachment: ~WRD000.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The cats get free food, shelter and the best care we can provide cats that have to be trapped to be vetted. I can provide worming and some other things without touching them but they are cautiousas they should be. It has kept them alive for a long time and allowed them to have a good life ... not the life I would like for them but the life they are born to. If they are going to eat and enjoy the protection we can give them, they make the trip to the vet. Some have managed to avoid trapping for really long times but I do insist and, eventually, they make that trip. We don't have a lot of money either so I do understand. Right now there are 6 ferals plus those who wander by and go on. We don't belong to a program either. We just believe this is something we need to do. Otherwise there would be zillions of cats/kittens here and finding homes is almost impossible. I have always had house cats who were feral at one time and consider them the smartest of cats but they are all very independent...even those that came in when they were very little kittens. Unfortunately, most people want cats who are lap cats or less independent or whatever and don't want to spend the time necessary with ferals. On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:21 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight Dozens of years re feeding. We trap, s/n and release. That is the price of free food. I would not feel right about abandoning my wild friends. When I moved to care for my mother, I got neighbors to take care of the one feral at that house. I visited when I could and furnished the food. We have fed ferals at Mom's for as long as I can remember. And calling a shelter will probably result in the death of most of the cats you have been caring for. On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, dot winkler wrote: Hi. I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went thru - I didn't see any replies. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat feeding. I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now. I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks and will have a very difficult postop recovery. I have no- one else to feed the cats. I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously the newspaper to expose their plight. Perhaps some can be adopted, if a facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the newspaper. I also could try to help in the adoption process. ALSO, my other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats? I am thinking this cannot go on forever. Where do I find people to help me out with it, if I can't find adoptions? Any input on this, would be great. Thanks From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites? I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted fluid from the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high protein content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so concluded that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was greenish_his sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical; yellow viscous fluid, no cancer. I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Forgotten Felines toledoc...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites? My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Or expired food. It is still good. On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:31 PM, GRAS wrote: You can always go to a large pet supply store and ask if they have any torn/damaged bags of dry food – most will gladly donate them. That’s right, chip in is a GRRREAT idea, Beth! Go to www.chipin.com – you’d be surprised what people collect money for, a party, a present for someone, and serious stuff! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Are there any places which donate food in your area? We have several in Atlanta. Also rescues can sometimes get food to feral feeders at cost. You could also set up a Chip-in for people to donate $ for food. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!~WRD000.jpg www.Furkids.org From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food? Hi I was reading your mail. What did you mean about that is the price of free food? Do you receive food free for feeding the cats? I do not TNR. I don't belong to any program. Just my lone self feeding the 7 cats. (they are all neutered except 2 by someone else) I have spent so much money on them each week. Money I don't have. It is getting to be a bad situation for me. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
