subject:"For Nina"

Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or feline.  
If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that someone has either 
taken him in or at least is feeding him.  With the flyer coverage -- close to 
100 in the area -- and out of the immediate area at grocery stores, 
restaurants, car washes, etc., where the residents might gather -- it is hard 
to believe someone hasn't seen the flyers and the reward.  But it is still 
possible.I know Dianne is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest 
going out at that time.  So many good ideas from all you guys.  We all 
appreciate it.

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Such a bittersweet story about the 
neighborhood Jack's gone missing in. 
It sounds like so much good will be done in his honor. Isn't that just 
life in a nutshell? Since the folks in that area seem so kindly 
disposed to animals, I'm wondering if someone has taken Jackie in, or is 
at least keeping him fed. I know it must be cold out, but is your 
friend keeping a window or door ajar in case he wanders back home? 
Around 3am seems to be the time when they feel safe to attempt travel. 
Has your friend been going outside and shaking a package of dry food 
around that time? Since other's have been trapped, it sounds like traps 
are being set where he went missing. How fortunate for the ones that 
have been/will be helped. Thank you Jack, now COME HOME! 
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Nina, thank you so much. Please do send prayers Jack's way. He 
 disappeared on Jan. 1st and there hasn't been a day, hardly that 
 someone from his family or our rescue group hasn't been on the 
 streets looking for him and talking to people. I really do like the 
 business card idea -- we did, in addition to flyers, half-size 
 handbills -- half of an 81/2 x 11 page which we put on doors and 
 gave to people - but the business cards are easier for people to hold 
 on to. The neighborhood is really interesting -- an old downtown 
 'hood area where people are moving in and renovating old homes. Lots 
 of boarded up homes, brushy areas mixed in with better cared for 
 places. Last night a couple of kids brought a black cat to Dianne's 
 (Jack's mom) door thinking it was Jack. It wasn't but Dianne took it 
 in because it had an injured tail and took to vet this morning. 
 She's also taken all unaltered animals she's trapped to be altered. 
 Our rescue group has discovered in this search that this is the 
 neighborhood where we want to begin to concentrate on tnr- we are 
 calling our effort The Jackie Project in Jack's honor -- we have met 
 many wonderful people with essentially zero resources who are willing 
 to feed strays but can't afford spay neuter. Jack's nicknames are 
 Jackie and Ducky. He is black but with a brownish tint in the sun. 
 He has lots of sinus problems and lots of the time has the tip of his 
 tongue sticking out. I have been amazed that every single person we 
 have talked to -- including knocking on the door at all hours -- has 
 been indredible -- not one single person has refused a request to let 
 us check basements or walk their property -- and we have felt safe 
 even though this is a neighborhood high in drug activity and police 
 activity. Other than not finding Jack yet it has been a totally 
 positive experience.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula in even though they knew 
that she was being searched for.  Ursula, if I do say so myself, is 
quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give 
her up.  One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could 
see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in.  My house has a 
picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the 
neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I 
thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and 
went into their yard.  I was relentless in my search and I suspect that 
this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the 
night.  Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in 
the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass 
door waiting to be let in.  I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't 
imagining her there.  She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also 
made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or 
feline.  If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that 
someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him.  With the 
flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate 
area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the 
residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen 
the flyers and the reward.  But it is still possible.I know Dianne 
is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that 
time.  So many good ideas from all you guys.  We all appreciate it.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

Wow, that is encouraging.  Know what you mean about people thinking you are 
nuts!   We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with out a 
second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe because 
people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!!

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula 
in even though they knew 
that she was being searched for. Ursula, if I do say so myself, is 
quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give 
her up. One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could 
see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in. My house has a 
picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the 
neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I 
thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and 
went into their yard. I was relentless in my search and I suspect that 
this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the 
night. Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in 
the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass 
door waiting to be let in. I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't 
imagining her there. She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also 
made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own.
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or 
 feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that 
 someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the 
 flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate 
 area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the 
 residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen 
 the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible. I know Dianne 
 is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that 
 time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread TenHouseCats


some cats have second homes, too--a friend has a calico (of course) who
disappears every may, and comes home every september, fat and sassy and
clearly well-cared for

On 1/22/07, Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wow, that is encouraging.  Know what you mean about people thinking you
are nuts!   We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with
out a second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe
because people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!!

*Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula in even though they knew
that she was being searched for. Ursula, if I do say so myself, is
quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give
her up. One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could
see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in. My house has a
picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the
neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I
thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and
went into their yard. I was relentless in my search and I suspect that
this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the
night. Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in
the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass
door waiting to be let in. I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't
imagining her there. She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also
made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own.
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or
 feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that
 someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the
 flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate
 area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the
 residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen
 the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible. I know Dianne
 is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that
 time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it.







--
Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

My neighborhood is not nearly so friendly to animals as Jack's seems to 
be.  They're not exactly abusive, but very, very neglectful.  Lot's of 
Oh we love our dog, while they keep her chained up ignored in the 
front yard.  It's the main reason our house is overflowing with 
fourleggers.  When an animal goes missing, most of the folks around here 
don't even look for them, (or answer found ads in the paper), they just 
go get another one and their old pets end up at my house :( .   They 
don't for a minute understand my dedication, but they usually treat me 
with indulgence.  They think the way I perceive animal rights is crazy, 
but they seem to smile on my efforts anyway.   It's very frustrating, 
but I keep trying to educate.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
Wow, that is encouraging.  Know what you mean about people thinking 
you are nuts!   We don't venture far into some parts of the 
neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think 
we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are 
nuts -- and harmless!!

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and we 
wonder how well cared for.  The search team yesterday came across several 
yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we have to address 
that in addition to the cat issues.

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My neighborhood is not nearly so friendly to 
animals as Jack's seems to 
be. They're not exactly abusive, but very, very neglectful. Lot's of 
Oh we love our dog, while they keep her chained up ignored in the 
front yard. It's the main reason our house is overflowing with 
fourleggers. When an animal goes missing, most of the folks around here 
don't even look for them, (or answer found ads in the paper), they just 
go get another one and their old pets end up at my house :( . They 
don't for a minute understand my dedication, but they usually treat me 
with indulgence. They think the way I perceive animal rights is crazy, 
but they seem to smile on my efforts anyway. It's very frustrating, 
but I keep trying to educate.
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Wow, that is encouraging. Know what you mean about people thinking 
 you are nuts! We don't venture far into some parts of the 
 neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think 
 we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are 
 nuts -- and harmless!!

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

Oh my dear, be very careful.  You're not going to find anyone being 
indulgent or open to education under those circumstances.  How is 
Animal Control around there?  Don't let those people think for a minute 
that you will be sticking your nose in their horrid business.  Covert is 
definitely the word for dealing with that sort of thing.  Just the 
thought makes my stomach churn. 

The dogs for protection people can sometimes be reached with reason 
and tact, (hard to do, but you have to approach them as if you do 
believe they have some feelings for their animals).  There was a group 
of people, I can't remember the organization's name, that used to go 
door to door with things like run lines to install for dogs chained up.  
You know, a line strung from tree to tree, (or post to post), that would 
allow the dog a little more freedom of movement.  They'd bring gifts of 
food and supplies and try to get their message out to the people that 
might be swayed.  Bless their hearts, and your's too, it seems to be a 
never ending uphill battle.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and 
we wonder how well cared for.  The search team yesterday came across 
several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we 
have to address that in addition to the cat issues.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

Your friend should put a note on her collar introducing herself!  It 
would be nice to know where the heck she goes and I'm always looking for 
allies in my neighborhood.

Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:
some cats have second homes, too--a friend has a calico (of course) 
who disappears every may, and comes home every september, fat and 
sassy and clearly well-cared for

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

Animal Control is -- better than it used to be.  We haven't been able to get 
them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a miracle of a 
turn of events just a little while ago we found out that the head of AC is 
going to work with our rescue group  on Operation Jack that our President 
just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort in Jack's neighborhood.  We 
determined that we needed to do this and got all our input during our searches 
for Jack.  He is offering his facility to our vet -- and will sanction the 
altered animals and not pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is 
what.  I can't tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for 
this city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet.  

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Oh my dear, be very careful. You're not going 
to find anyone being 
indulgent or open to education under those circumstances. How is 
Animal Control around there? Don't let those people think for a minute 
that you will be sticking your nose in their horrid business. Covert is 
definitely the word for dealing with that sort of thing. Just the 
thought makes my stomach churn. 

The dogs for protection people can sometimes be reached with reason 
and tact, (hard to do, but you have to approach them as if you do 
believe they have some feelings for their animals). There was a group 
of people, I can't remember the organization's name, that used to go 
door to door with things like run lines to install for dogs chained up. 
You know, a line strung from tree to tree, (or post to post), that would 
allow the dog a little more freedom of movement. They'd bring gifts of 
food and supplies and try to get their message out to the people that 
might be swayed. Bless their hearts, and your's too, it seems to be a 
never ending uphill battle.
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and 
 we wonder how well cared for. The search team yesterday came across 
 several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we 
 have to address that in addition to the cat issues.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

OMG that's fantastic!!  A friend of mine has been trying to work with 
the shelter in her area to not pts tipped ferals.  Her rescue group is 
now micro chipping all their tnr cats so that they know the colony to 
return them to.  Small grueling steps can sometimes pay off.  Oh so good 
for you guys!  The icing on the cake would be for Jack to come home!

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
Animal Control is -- better than it used to be.  We haven't been able 
to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a 
miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that 
the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group  on Operation 
Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort 
in Jack's neighborhood.  We determined that we needed to do this and 
got all our input during our searches for Jack.  He is offering his 
facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not 
pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what.  I can't 
tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this 
city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing.  What a 
wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats!   So far what we have been able to work 
out with AC was for our previous director to evaluate cats in the feral room to 
separate truly feral from just fractious.  They he ok'd us taking any feral we 
could relocate.   They still withhold the existence of a feral room from the 
general public when they go in searching for a cat they've lost.  But the 
current situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the 
feral room was to the euthanasia room.

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  OMG that's fantastic!! A friend of mine has 
been trying to work with 
the shelter in her area to not pts tipped ferals. Her rescue group is 
now micro chipping all their tnr cats so that they know the colony to 
return them to. Small grueling steps can sometimes pay off. Oh so good 
for you guys! The icing on the cake would be for Jack to come home!
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 Animal Control is -- better than it used to be. We haven't been able 
 to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a 
 miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that 
 the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group on Operation 
 Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort 
 in Jack's neighborhood. We determined that we needed to do this and 
 got all our input during our searches for Jack. He is offering his 
 facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not 
 pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what. I can't 
 tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this 
 city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

2007-01-22 Thread Nina

It's so ridiculous to think that just anyone could tell a frantic 
out-of-their-mind with fear house cat from a feral under those 
conditions.  And for Heaven's sake, not giving people access to the 
feral room when they are searching for their cats is unconscionable.  I 
hate going to the shelter, some of the worst of my haunting images come 
from those brave, stoic ferals waiting on death row.  I'm always 
battling my sensitivities that make me want to pull the covers over my 
head with the NEED to get involved.  Where do you live?  I wish I had 
such wonderful like-minded people to join forces with.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing.  
What a wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats!   So far what we have 
been able to work out with AC was for our previous director to 
evaluate cats in the feral room to separate truly feral from just 
fractious.  They he ok'd us taking any feral we could relocate.   They 
still withhold the existence of a feral room from the general public 
when they go in searching for a cat they've lost.  But the current 
situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the 
feral room was to the euthanasia room.

Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina

I'm in LIttle Rock, AR.  Wish you were here to work with us!!

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It's so ridiculous to think that just anyone 
could tell a frantic 
out-of-their-mind with fear house cat from a feral under those 
conditions. And for Heaven's sake, not giving people access to the 
feral room when they are searching for their cats is unconscionable. I 
hate going to the shelter, some of the worst of my haunting images come 
from those brave, stoic ferals waiting on death row. I'm always 
battling my sensitivities that make me want to pull the covers over my 
head with the NEED to get involved. Where do you live? I wish I had 
such wonderful like-minded people to join forces with.
Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
 We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing. 
 What a wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats! So far what we have 
 been able to work out with AC was for our previous director to 
 evaluate cats in the feral room to separate truly feral from just 
 fractious. They he ok'd us taking any feral we could relocate. They 
 still withhold the existence of a feral room from the general public 
 when they go in searching for a cat they've lost. But the current 
 situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the 
 feral room was to the euthanasia room.

OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

Hey guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her spay
Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call. 
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't as
it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it?  

Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread Marylyn

I'm no dog expert but I've shared my life with plenty of them.  I've never 
had a problem like this.  Do you have an emergency vet nearby or will your 
vet come in for emergencies?  My concern is for the rest of the weekend. 
Also, I would not be put off.  I would want to see a vet for my own peace of 
mind.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:36 AM
Subject: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after 
spay




Hey guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her spay
Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call.
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't as
it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it?

Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

Thanks Marylyn,

They open in less than half an hour, so we'll call
right away.  If we have to take her in, we will, but I
am hoping all she needs is antibiotics.  I don't want
her stuck at the vets all day Sunday by herself if all
she needs is antibiotics, you know?

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm no dog expert but I've shared my life with
 plenty of them.  I've never 
 had a problem like this.  Do you have an emergency
 vet nearby or will your 
 vet come in for emergencies?  My concern is for the
 rest of the weekend. 
 Also, I would not be put off.  I would want to see a
 vet for my own peace of 
 mind.
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:36 AM
 Subject: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla
 Belle peeing blood after 
 spay
 
 
  Hey guys,
 
  Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her
 spay
  Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight
 because
  she bled a lot because she was in heat and they
 said
  they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all
 this
  means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
  been in the house and we didn't let her out in
 time
  and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
  reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that
 she
  peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of
 the
  pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
  other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
  another hour and a half, so I have to wait to
 call.
  If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't
 as
  it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
  causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed
 into
  her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she
 has
  had a UTI and we didn't know it?
 
  Any advice is appreciated,
  Thanks,
  Wendy
 
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Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread Marylyn

No I would not want her alone at the vet's.  She would be better off with 
someone (you) watching after her.  My concerns are whether you have backup 
if the vet is not open.  I live in a rural area and finding vets off hours 
here can be (at best) interesting.  Nilla is such a lucky dog.  I wish her a 
long and happy life with you and you with her.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after 
spay




Thanks Marylyn,

They open in less than half an hour, so we'll call
right away.  If we have to take her in, we will, but I
am hoping all she needs is antibiotics.  I don't want
her stuck at the vets all day Sunday by herself if all
she needs is antibiotics, you know?

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm no dog expert but I've shared my life with
plenty of them.  I've never
had a problem like this.  Do you have an emergency
vet nearby or will your
vet come in for emergencies?  My concern is for the
rest of the weekend.
Also, I would not be put off.  I would want to see a
vet for my own peace of
mind.





 If
you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who

will deal likewise with
their fellow man.

 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:36 AM
Subject: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla
Belle peeing blood after
spay


 Hey guys,

 Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her
spay
 Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight
because
 she bled a lot because she was in heat and they
said
 they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all
this
 means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
 been in the house and we didn't let her out in
time
 and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
 reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that
she
 peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of
the
 pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
 other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
 another hour and a half, so I have to wait to
call.
 If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't
as
 it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
 causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed
into
 her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she
has
 had a UTI and we didn't know it?

 Any advice is appreciated,
 Thanks,
 Wendy

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread ETrent

 
Wendy - I am praying for you both.  Please let us know what the doctor  says.
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 12/16/2006 6:37:38 AM Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey  guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her  spay
Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled  a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her.  I  am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.   She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed  on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got  up and noticed that she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of  the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty  red.  The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to  wait to call. 
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't  as
it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this?   Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder?  That doesn't  sound right.  Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it?   

Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread catatonya

I would call the vet this morning before they close.  I have never heard of 
that and had many a cat spayed, in heat, and pregnant as well
   
  t

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her spay
Thursday. They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her. I am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood. She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed on the tile. Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty red. The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call. 
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't as
it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this? Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder? That doesn't sound right. Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it? 

Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

Well, the vet said that it isn't uncommon for this to
happen.  She said she is 90% sure a round of
Cephalexin should do the trick, so I went and picked
some up this morning (in the middle of our garage
sale).  She said if it didn't, to bring her in Monday.
 Other than peeing blood, Nilla Belle is doing great. 
You wouldn't know she was ill other than the blood.

:)
Wendy
 
--- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would call the vet this morning before they close.
  I have never heard of that and had many a cat
 spayed, in heat, and pregnant as well

   t
 
 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey guys,
 
 Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her
 spay
 Thursday. They wanted to keep her overnight because
 she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
 they had to wrap her. I am not sure what all this
 means, but now I notice she's peeing blood. She's
 been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
 and she peed on the tile. Yesterday it was medium
 reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that
 she
 peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of
 the
 pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
 other was pretty red. The vet doesn't open for
 another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call. 
 If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't
 as
 it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
 causing this? Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
 her bladder? That doesn't sound right. Maybe she has
 had a UTI and we didn't know it? 
 
 Any advice is appreciated,
 Thanks,
 Wendy
 
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Re: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn

Eee Gads! Shame on your vet, I say, he COULD have sent her home and told you 
sorry,
the complications are too high while she is in heat, please reschedule after 
she is
out of heat. JMO. I wonder if it is actually blood in the pee, or if she's 
bleeding
from her vagina, and it's just mixing in with the pee as it passes through the 
vulva.
There shouldn't be any reason for there to be blood in the urine after a spay, 
the
bladder is not involved with the spay surgery. The only way there would be 
blood in
the urine caused by a spay is if the vet accidentally lacerated the bladder, 
and had
to repair it, and the repair is not holding.

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread Nina


Hi Sweetie,

You've probably brought Nilla in to the vet by now.  I am concerned.  I 
don't like that the blood in her urine seems to be getting more 
concentrated, not less.  The fact that she was in heat during her spay 
does cause further complications. 

I did a quick Google and did come up with a site that mentioned blood in 
the urine after spay: *The usual cause is manipulation of the urinary 
bladder (which is directly adjacent to the uterus) during the surgical 
procedure. Under normal conditions these symptoms disappear within a few 
days.


*She's a strong healthy girl, I'm praying they are able to figure out 
what's going on and let her come home with you, (I wouldn't leave her 
there unless they have round the clock care). 


Please let us know as soon as you can.  You're in my prayers and thoughts,
Nina

wendy wrote:

Hey guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her spay
Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call. 
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't as

it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it?  


Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

2006-12-16 Thread Nina

Maybe it isn't uncommon for this to happen after /your/ vet operates, 
but I've never experienced or heard of it being something not to be 
concerned about.  I'm with Jen, she should have told you it's better to 
wait until Nilla was out of her heat cycle.  Did you tell her the blood 
was getting more concentrated?  I'm glad Nilla is not acting like she's 
in distress or pain, but make sure you keep her quiet for her own good.  
Keep a close eye on the situation and make sure you have someplace to 
take her if things get worse before Monday.


I'm still concerned.  Please let us know how she's doing,
Nina

wendy wrote:

Well, the vet said that it isn't uncommon for this to
happen.  She said she is 90% sure a round of
Cephalexin should do the trick, so I went and picked
some up this morning (in the middle of our garage
sale).  She said if it didn't, to bring her in Monday.
 Other than peeing blood, Nilla Belle is doing great. 
You wouldn't know she was ill other than the blood.


:)
Wendy
 
--- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  

I would call the vet this morning before they close.
 I have never heard of that and had many a cat
spayed, in heat, and pregnant as well
   
  t


wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey guys,

Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her
spay
Thursday. They wanted to keep her overnight because
she bled a lot because she was in heat and they said
they had to wrap her. I am not sure what all this
means, but now I notice she's peeing blood. She's
been in the house and we didn't let her out in time
and she peed on the tile. Yesterday it was medium
reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that
she
peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of
the
pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
other was pretty red. The vet doesn't open for
another hour and a half, so I have to wait to call. 
If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't

as
it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
causing this? Can she pop a stitch and it bleed into
her bladder? That doesn't sound right. Maybe she has
had a UTI and we didn't know it? 


Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Wendy

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood after spay

Thanks Nina,

That's exactly what the vet tech told me when I came
in.  She said they have to express the bladder and
that can sometimes irritate the bladder.  She also
mentioned nicking the bladder could be a cause, but
didn't think that was the reason.  I hope she isn't
going to get anemic from losing blood.  Let's hope
this clears up soon!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Sweetie,
 
 You've probably brought Nilla in to the vet by now. 
 I am concerned.  I 
 don't like that the blood in her urine seems to be
 getting more 
 concentrated, not less.  The fact that she was in
 heat during her spay 
 does cause further complications. 
 
 I did a quick Google and did come up with a site
 that mentioned blood in 
 the urine after spay: *The usual cause is
 manipulation of the urinary 
 bladder (which is directly adjacent to the uterus)
 during the surgical 
 procedure. Under normal conditions these symptoms
 disappear within a few 
 days.
 
 *She's a strong healthy girl, I'm praying they are
 able to figure out 
 what's going on and let her come home with you, (I
 wouldn't leave her 
 there unless they have round the clock care). 
 
 Please let us know as soon as you can.  You're in my
 prayers and thoughts,
 Nina
 
 wendy wrote:
  Hey guys,
 
  Nilla Belle was brought home yesterday after her
 spay
  Thursday.  They wanted to keep her overnight
 because
  she bled a lot because she was in heat and they
 said
  they had to wrap her.  I am not sure what all
 this
  means, but now I notice she's peeing blood.  She's
  been in the house and we didn't let her out in
 time
  and she peed on the tile.  Yesterday it was medium
  reddish yellow, but I just got up and noticed that
 she
  peed twice more while we were sleeping and one of
 the
  pees was the color of the other yesterday, but the
  other was pretty red.  The vet doesn't open for
  another hour and a half, so I have to wait to
 call. 
  If anyone is up out there (I am betting Nina isn't
 as
  it's 4:30 am her time), do you know what could be
  causing this?  Can she pop a stitch and it bleed
 into
  her bladder?  That doesn't sound right.  Maybe she
 has
  had a UTI and we didn't know it?  
 
  Any advice is appreciated,
  Thanks,
  Wendy
 
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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood afterspay

2006-12-16 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn

If a HUMAN was peeing blood after a surgery, I bet no one would take the wait 
and
see stance!

Phaewryn

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeing blood afterspay

2006-12-16 Thread Kelly L


At 06:21 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote:



Actually, It depends upon the kind of surgery. Many of my patients 
after hysterectomies or C sections do have blood in their urine. It 
depends upon how much..as little usually clears in a day or so if it 
a lot we might assume the bladder was nicked. That usually heals on 
it's own also..Again it depends on just how much...all blood and 
no urine is a big concern...pink and blood tinged urine is not

Kelly


If a HUMAN was peeing blood after a surgery, I bet no one would take 
the wait and

see stance!

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeingblood afterspay

2006-12-16 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn

OMG! If I peed blood after a surgery, I would DIE of a heart attack, LOL! The 
blood
wouldn't have to kill me, the shock would be enough! I didn't when I had my 
tubes
tied, but that's not very invasive either I suppose. I will have to ask my mom 
is she
peed blood after her VERY traumatic emergency hysterectomy (she was prolasping, 
I
hope that doesn't run in the family).

Phaewryn

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Re: OT: To Nina and other dog experts: Nilla Belle peeingblood afterspay

2006-12-16 Thread Kelly L


At 06:52 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote:


Fortunately the foley catheter bag is out of site so they do not see 
the blood,,,We actually chart the color change from red to orange to 
yellowNo one has died of shock though once we explain it is not a 
bid deal,,even the little bood vessels in the bladder can rupture 
when there is a bit of trauma,,,so you have never had a bad UTI 
yourself,,,lucky woman

Kelly


OMG! If I peed blood after a surgery, I would DIE of a heart attack, 
LOL! The blood
wouldn't have to kill me, the shock would be enough! I didn't when I 
had my tubes
tied, but that's not very invasive either I suppose. I will have to 
ask my mom is she
peed blood after her VERY traumatic emergency hysterectomy (she was 
prolasping, I

hope that doesn't run in the family).

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Re: New member introduction/questions-Nina

2006-12-09 Thread Susan Tillman

Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:44:00 -0800, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How is Shane with vet visits?  Would he do okay with dental work while he's
awake?  How long ago was your last vet visit?  Did he drop the weight quickly,
or over a length of time?  Depending on how bad his gums are, you might want to
 try and address his gingivitis and herpes infection first.  Maybe try
 the antibiotics and lysine and see how he responds.

Hi Nina,

Shane does quite well at the vet's office. He usually purrs the whole time
he is there and is very cooperative about everything. However, I'm sure he
finds it stressful (don't most animals?) between being put in his carrier,
riding in the car and then all the weird sounds and smells at the clinic. He
certainly does better than many cats I've seen there. It had been about six
weeks since his last vet appointment so the weight loss took place over that
period of time. He's a little on the pudgy side, so he can actually stand to
lose a little weight. However, since I hadn't been making a concerted effort
to get any weight off of him, the weight loss does concern me. I plan to
take him back in about a week to see if he is continuing to drop weight. He
has been on L-lysine, 250 mg. twice daily for months (since his eye
infection was diagnosed). The vet didn't start him on an antibiotic yet but
will probably put him on a course of antibiotics whether we decide to do the
dental or not. Thanks for your help!

Sue and Shane
Jerome, AZ

Re: add to CLS - Valley, Susan's baby (Nina)

2006-11-26 Thread catatonya

Susan,  My condolences as well.  I was hoping Valley had turned the corner.  
I'm so sorry.
   
  tonya

Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Susan,
  I am so sorry to hear about Valley's loss.  I was so hoping for his continued 
recovery.  Too much heartbreak in your corner of late.  I hope that your 
students can help you heal, you are giving both them and your cats an amazing 
gift in bringing these two worlds together. 
   
  Sleep sweet, Valley.
   
  Leslie 
   

  G. Lane wrote:
 Susan's away from her computer,  as it's Thanksgiving and she doesn't
 have a computer at home. 

 But I just wanted to write and tell you guys that she lost beloved
 Valley today.  He's an adult FELV flame point Siamese, and he died
 tonight probably from a disease caused by his FELV condition.  His 
 hematocrit was very low, and today he started having trouble
 breathing. She can address the details better than I, but I just
 wanted to put this out on the list..

 Valley was a wonderful,  gorgeous baby, who had been with her for 
 maybe 3 years (?), and served as a Library Cat at the Blind School
 where Susan is Librarian.  He will be very much missed.

 Sleep soft, sweet Valley.

Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-11 Thread catatonya

It's best for them to come to your house. My guy came for a small fee (dinner money). lol.wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Karen,Thanks! I would love that. Do you think she willwant to come look at her interact with our dogs, or doyou think she will want us to bring her to Lewisville?I am in Rockwall.Thanks!Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some reliable person in lewisville  who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure what she charges but she  gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had my pit. She will not sugar  coat anything let me know. Karen
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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread catatonya

Don't be so sure wendy. Everyone I showed pics of the dog I found said 'pit', but then the vet and pit rescue said he was NOT a pit. Does this dog act aggressive toward your other dogs? Does he chase the cats?twendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. We are absolutely sure she's a Pit Bull. Shemight be mixed, but her head is unmistakably pit bull.:)Wendy--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Wendy, I'm glad your rescue girl is in out of danger and sleeping soundly. I do wonder about her puppies though. Life can be so tough sometimes. Unfortunately I have to second Karen's input on Pits. (Congratulations on placing the pos today Karen!). You probably know me well enough to
understand how it pains me to generalize about any breed, but Pits have the rep they do for a reason. I have met plenty of of lovable ones, but they have to be well trained and adhere to a different kind of interaction than say, a Golden Retriever. I don't specialize in aggression problems, but I've seen dogs that wag their entire bodies when they greet you, turn mighty ugly mighty fast when matched with an owner that isn't alpha enough to influence their behavior sufficiently. Any breed of dog can have these problems, but this is a breed that is known for them. Esp since you have no idea of her history, you'll need to stay alert and help her understand that you are capable of making decisions in order to insure everyone is safe. Are you absolutely sure that she's Pit x and not
something else? Perhaps Boxer, or Lab? I much prefer to see Pit Bulls placed in an 'only pet' home with no children situation. If the vet thinks she's a Pit Bull, I would contact the Pit Bull rescue in your area and see if they are willing to help you place this girl. It's a good sign that she's not immediately fence fighting with your other dogs, but it could just be because she's worn out and is waiting to feel out the situation. I've also heard about Thyroid problems causing sudden aggression, I wish I could remember the details involved, you can probably Google it and find out more. She was sent to you for a reason. Just be careful and think carefully about making a long-term commitment to her. You may just be meant to be the "go-between" in finding her true forever
home. Good luck sweetie and thank you for helping her. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phaewryn and all, Well I have been doing dog and until recently pit rescue for 20 some years. I am afraid I do not agree. I had a pit from weaning till 4 1/2 years and she "turned" or developed sudden rage. A beloved indoor family fully vetted dog became a killer in 6 months. I also have a foster who was attacked by her own pit with injuries including 26 staples in her head. Also from a dog with sudden rage syndrome. Never no matter how long you have them trust a pit completely. They were born and bred to kill and that is what they do best. My pit Judas used to help me potty bottle baby kittens,. then started
chewing up pups. When you get yours checked please include a test for lyme and thyroid.another major cause of aggression in pits and other breeds of dogs. A rescued pit needs lots of training love patience and RESPECT. I have only read a few of these emails we had petco adoptions all weekend but good luck with the pit. BY THE WAY ALL I PLACE A FIV POSITIVE CAT TODAY WHO WILL HAVE A FIV BUDDY TO HANG WITH. KAREN Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview)

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread catatonya

I can't take the test either. The dog I found my family, and people on my rescue list all thought was a pit. But he was friendly as all get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.He has 5 rescued pits. They don't fight at all except trying to push each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together. A pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who seems friendly to 'turn'. They just have more strength.I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the quiz..  LOL  Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....



Many years ago I had adobe that hid under the bed during storms and who let somebody break-in and rob our house. The meter reader came once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put her inside since his little computer tablet said "BAD DOG" for our address. As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into the house while trying to explain that she was not the problem dog, it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down. He was so focused on the dobe he never even noticed thathe was already under attack until I came back to grab her.I've heard since that there is a personality difference between male and female dobes,I wouldlove to have another female again.But those cute little curly-haired terriers are just vicious... :o)

Beth

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

Many years ago I had adobe that hid under the bed during storms and who let somebody break-in and rob our house. The meter reader came once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put her inside since his little computer tablet said "BAD DOG" for our address. As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into the house while trying to explain that she was not the problem dog, it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down. He was so focused on the dobe he never even noticed thathe was already under attack until I came back to grab her.I've heard since that there is a personality difference between male and female dobes,I wouldlove to have another female again.But those cute little curly-haired terriers are just vicious... :o)

Beth

Original message from Catatonya:
I can't take the test either. The dog I found my family, and people on my rescue list all thought was a pit. But he was friendly as all get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)

There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.

He has 5 rescued pits. They don't fight at all except trying to push each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together. A pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who seems friendly to 'turn'. They just have more strength.

I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.

t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the quiz..
LOL
Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




LOL yeah I have a min pin mix that will bite a stranger and draw blood in a 
quick ness.
I was raised with Dobes and don't believe there is much difference in the 
disposition. Males should be neutered as early as possible, that helps a lot 
with aggression

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Nina

Rotties need to be raised with care and respect, but I feel more 
comfortable around one I've just met because, (at least for me), they 
are easier to read than Dobbies.  Their facial expressions and body 
language signal what's going on in their heads and give more of an 
indication of their emotions than Dobermans.  There can be something 
unnerving about the cool stillness in a Dobbie's stare when he's unsure 
of your intentions.  Every dog, just as every human, is an individual 
and is the result of genetics and environment.  You just can't judge a 
book by it's cover.  Think Ted Bundy.

Nina

Gary Murphy wrote:
Many years ago I had a dobe that hid under the bed during storms and 
who let somebody break-in and rob our house.  The meter reader came 
once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put 
her inside since his little computer tablet said BAD DOG for our 
address.  As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into 
the house while trying  to explain that she was not the problem dog, 
it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment 
latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down.  He was so 
focused on the dobe he never even noticed that he was already under 
attack until I came back to grab her.  I've heard since that there is 
a personality difference between male and female dobes, I would love 
to have another female again.  But those cute little curly-haired 
terriers are just vicious... :o) 
 
Beth 
 
Original message from Catatonya:
I can't take the test either.  The dog I found my family, and people 
on my rescue list all thought was a pit.  But he was friendly as all 
get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though 
I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)
 
There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit 
from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.
 
He has 5 rescued pits.  They don't fight at all except trying to push 
each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together.  A 
pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who 
seems friendly to 'turn'.  They just have more strength.
 
I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.
 
t


*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the
quiz..
LOL
Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....



Oh, I understand about that "cool stare". People would cross the street to avoid us when I was out walking her. She was still scary looking even with her uncropped ears, big belly, and genetically caused near baldness. I would never approach a strange dobe with that focused stare...

Missing that dear old dog now :o(
Beth

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




Just say the word Beth and I am sure we can get you anther one 
!!

Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....



I would love that, but am maxed out at 11 dear souls in 1250 square feet... (5 cats, 1 african grey parrot, 2 lovebirds, my mom, my husband, and myself.) If I ever move to a bigger place, a new dobe is a definite!

Thanks,
Beth

Original message:
Just say the word Beth and I am sure we can get you anther one !!

Karen

OT: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread wendy

Hey Nina,

I sent emails to the only two pit bull shelters in
Texas.  The first person I heard back from today. 
He's booked, but he's in Kingsville, which is like 8
hours from Dallas, so that's ok.  He was very nice. 
The other person is in Gun Barrell City, not too far
from here, and I am hoping to hear back from her
today.  She has 8 pits in her shelter, and one of them
has been there three years!  Poor thing!  I am hoping
she will know someone closer to where I live that
might be willing to come over and observe her.  I will
definitely not be turning her over to a regular
shelter, don't worry.  I can't tell what she might be
mixed with, if anything.  I am hoping my vet can tell
me.  I was really wishing I had your phone number
yesterday when we were trying to evaluate whether to
take her with us or not, because I know you do dog
rescue as well.  We are considering keeping her if she
and the other dogs can get along.  So far so good.  We
are also considering building a separate enclosure for
her while we are gone at work during the day.

:)
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RE: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread Chris

You can also try Leah at Spindletop  http://www.spindletoppitbullrefuge.org/
They're somewhere around Houston

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.

Hey Nina,

I sent emails to the only two pit bull shelters in
Texas.  The first person I heard back from today. 
He's booked, but he's in Kingsville, which is like 8
hours from Dallas, so that's ok.  He was very nice. 
The other person is in Gun Barrell City, not too far
from here, and I am hoping to hear back from her
today.  She has 8 pits in her shelter, and one of them
has been there three years!  Poor thing!  I am hoping
she will know someone closer to where I live that
might be willing to come over and observe her.  I will
definitely not be turning her over to a regular
shelter, don't worry.  I can't tell what she might be
mixed with, if anything.  I am hoping my vet can tell
me.  I was really wishing I had your phone number
yesterday when we were trying to evaluate whether to
take her with us or not, because I know you do dog
rescue as well.  We are considering keeping her if she
and the other dogs can get along.  So far so good.  We
are also considering building a separate enclosure for
her while we are gone at work during the day.

:)
Wendy

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Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




Wendy,
Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some reliable person in lewisville 
who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure what she charges but she 
gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had my pit. She will not sugar 
coat anything let me know.
Karen

Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread wendy

Hey Karen,

Thanks!  I would love that.  Do you think she will
want to come look at her interact with our dogs, or do
you think she will want us to bring her to Lewisville?
 I am in Rockwall.

Thanks!
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,
 Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some
 reliable person in lewisville  
 who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure
 what she charges but she  
 gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had
 my pit. She will not sugar 
  coat anything let me know.
 Karen
 



 

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OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience rescuing dogs

Hi guys,

My husband and I were driving out in the country this
afternoon on our way home from visiting my grandfather
who just had a pacemaker put in, and saw a white Pit
Bull (looks like a puppy; we aren't sure) walking down
the side of a fairly busy road.  It was very emaciated
and looked like it was scavenging for food.  We
discussed it and turned around to check on the dog. 
We pulled up to the dog and I called out to it and it
wagged it's tail but cowered.  I got out of the car
and went over to the dog slowly, and she just laid
down and rolled over.  She was clearly starving, and
not in great shape.  She also looked like she had been
nursing puppies, although I can't tell how long.  We
couldn't find any puppies nearby.  We decided to take
the dog home with us.  We figured that even if she did
have puppies, she couldn't take care of them if she
gets hit by the cars that were driving by at 70+ mph,
or if she starves to death.  Although I'm sad we had
to leave her puppies (if there were any), I feel like
we made the right decision.  We stopped by Walmart and
bought wet food and water and dishes and fed her on
the trip and she's now home with us.  We may or may
not keep her.  My husband has always wanted a pit
bull; he thinks they are beautiful.  But we already
have two dogs, and I don't know how they'll accept
her.  She's completely docile, but one of ours may
give her trouble.  So far so good; our two are in the
dog run right now and aren't growling at her.  I am
going to try to see if there's a Pit Bull Rescue here
in Dallas.  If we don't keep her, I don't want to
adopt her out myself or turn her over to any shelter
because of her breed.  I don't want someone to adopt
her just to try to breed her or fight her.  She looks
and acts as if she's already been treated badly
enough.  We are going to take her to the vet and have
her checked out, probably wormed, and given a pill to
dry up her milk.  Does anyone have any advice as to
how we should care for her?  Anything else we can do
for her?

Thanks,
Wendy 


 

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Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

2006-10-29 Thread ETrent






Wendy,
What a wonderful thing you did! I never knew how truly beautiful a 
pit bull could be until I met my neighbor's dog. I wish I were more 
knowledgeable so I could help you - but just wanted to thank you for doing such 
a noble thing.

love,
elizabeth

In a message dated 10/29/2006 5:17:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi 
  guys,My husband and I were driving out in the country 
  thisafternoon on our way home from visiting my grandfatherwho just had 
  a pacemaker put in, and saw a white PitBull (looks like a puppy; we aren't 
  sure) walking downthe side of a fairly busy road. It was very 
  emaciatedand looked like it was scavenging for food. Wediscussed 
  it and turned around to check on the dog. We pulled up to the dog and I 
  called out to it and itwagged it's tail but cowered. I got out of 
  the carand went over to the dog slowly, and she just laiddown and 
  rolled over. She was clearly starving, andnot in great shape. 
  She also looked like she had beennursing puppies, although I can't tell 
  how long. Wecouldn't find any puppies nearby. We decided to 
  takethe dog home with us. We figured that even if she didhave 
  puppies, she couldn't take care of them if shegets hit by the cars that 
  were driving by at 70+ mph,or if she starves to death. Although I'm 
  sad we hadto leave her puppies (if there were any), I feel likewe made 
  the right decision. We stopped by Walmart andbought wet food and 
  water and dishes and fed her onthe trip and she's now home with us. 
  We may or maynot keep her. My husband has always wanted a 
  pitbull; he thinks they are beautiful. But we alreadyhave two 
  dogs, and I don't know how they'll accepther. She's completely 
  docile, but one of ours maygive her trouble. So far so good; our two 
  are in thedog run right now and aren't growling at her. I 
  amgoing to try to see if there's a Pit Bull Rescue herein 
  Dallas. If we don't keep her, I don't want toadopt her out myself or 
  turn her over to any shelterbecause of her breed. I don't want 
  someone to adopther just to try to breed her or fight her. She 
  looksand acts as if she's already been treated badlyenough. We 
  are going to take her to the vet and haveher checked out, probably wormed, 
  and given a pill todry up her milk. Does anyone have any advice as 
  tohow we should care for her? Anything else we can dofor 
  her?Thanks,Wendy 


If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the 
shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with 
their fellow man. ~St. Francis

Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

Thanks Elizabeth.  I really have to give the credit to
my husband.  He's the one who suggested that we might
need to check on her.  He loves dogs.  She's lucky he
took an interest in her.  We passed at least three
more dogs on our two hour drive home, walking down
different roads.  It's so sad that people don't take
care of their animals.  This poor sweet puppy deserves
so much better.

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
 Wendy,
 What a wonderful thing you did!  I never knew how
 truly beautiful a  pit bull 
 could be until I met my neighbor's dog.  I wish I
 were more  knowledgeable so 
 I could help you - but just wanted to thank you for
 doing such  a noble thing.
  
 love,
 elizabeth
  
 In a message dated 10/29/2006 5:17:37 P.M. Central
 Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi  guys,
 
 My husband and I were driving out in the country 
 this
 afternoon on our way home from visiting my
 grandfather
 who just had  a pacemaker put in, and saw a white
 Pit
 Bull (looks like a puppy; we aren't  sure) walking
 down
 the side of a fairly busy road.  It was very 
 emaciated
 and looked like it was scavenging for food.  We
 discussed  it and turned around to check on the dog.
 
 We pulled up to the dog and I  called out to it and
 it
 wagged it's tail but cowered.  I got out of  the car
 and went over to the dog slowly, and she just laid
 down and  rolled over.  She was clearly starving,
 and
 not in great shape.   She also looked like she had
 been
 nursing puppies, although I can't tell  how long. 
 We
 couldn't find any puppies nearby.  We decided to 
 take
 the dog home with us.  We figured that even if she
 did
 have  puppies, she couldn't take care of them if she
 gets hit by the cars that  were driving by at 70+
 mph,
 or if she starves to death.  Although I'm  sad we
 had
 to leave her puppies (if there were any), I feel
 like
 we made  the right decision.  We stopped by Walmart
 and
 bought wet food and  water and dishes and fed her on
 the trip and she's now home with us.   We may or may
 not keep her.  My husband has always wanted a  pit
 bull; he thinks they are beautiful.  But we already
 have two  dogs, and I don't know how they'll accept
 her.  She's completely  docile, but one of ours may
 give her trouble.  So far so good; our two  are in
 the
 dog run right now and aren't growling at her.  I  am
 going to try to see if there's a Pit Bull Rescue
 here
 in  Dallas.  If we don't keep her, I don't want to
 adopt her out myself or  turn her over to any
 shelter
 because of her breed.  I don't want  someone to
 adopt
 her just to try to breed her or fight her.  She 
 looks
 and acts as if she's already been treated badly
 enough.  We  are going to take her to the vet and
 have
 her checked out, probably wormed,  and given a pill
 to
 dry up her milk.  Does anyone have any advice as  to
 how we should care for her?  Anything else we can do
 for  her?
 
 Thanks,
 Wendy 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who will exclude any of God's
 creatures from the  shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal
 likewise with  their 
 fellow man. ~St. Francis
 



 
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RE: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

2006-10-29 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt




Just 
seconding Elizabeth's thank you! This girlie is lucky she found you 
two.

Diane R.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:22 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Need 
  help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience 
  re...
  
  
  Wendy,
  What a wonderful thing you did! I never knew how truly beautiful a 
  pit bull could be until I met my neighbor's dog. I wish I were more 
  knowledgeable so I could help you - but just wanted to thank you for doing 
  such a noble thing.
  
  love,
  elizabeth
  
  In a message dated 10/29/2006 5:17:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi 
guys,My husband and I were driving out in the country 
thisafternoon on our way home from visiting my grandfatherwho just 
had a pacemaker put in, and saw a white PitBull (looks like a puppy; we 
aren't sure) walking downthe side of a fairly busy road. It was 
very emaciatedand looked like it was scavenging for food. 
Wediscussed it and turned around to check on the dog. We pulled up 
to the dog and I called out to it and itwagged it's tail but 
cowered. I got out of the carand went over to the dog slowly, and 
she just laiddown and rolled over. She was clearly starving, 
andnot in great shape. She also looked like she had 
beennursing puppies, although I can't tell how long. 
Wecouldn't find any puppies nearby. We decided to takethe dog 
home with us. We figured that even if she didhave puppies, she 
couldn't take care of them if shegets hit by the cars that were driving 
by at 70+ mph,or if she starves to death. Although I'm sad we 
hadto leave her puppies (if there were any), I feel likewe made the 
right decision. We stopped by Walmart andbought wet food and water 
and dishes and fed her onthe trip and she's now home with us. We 
may or maynot keep her. My husband has always wanted a 
pitbull; he thinks they are beautiful. But we alreadyhave two 
dogs, and I don't know how they'll accepther. She's completely 
docile, but one of ours maygive her trouble. So far so good; our 
two are in thedog run right now and aren't growling at her. I 
amgoing to try to see if there's a Pit Bull Rescue herein 
Dallas. If we don't keep her, I don't want toadopt her out myself 
or turn her over to any shelterbecause of her breed. I don't want 
someone to adopther just to try to breed her or fight her. She 
looksand acts as if she's already been treated badlyenough. We 
are going to take her to the vet and haveher checked out, probably 
wormed, and given a pill todry up her milk. Does anyone have any 
advice as tohow we should care for her? Anything else we can 
dofor her?Thanks,Wendy 
  
  
  If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures 
  from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal 
  likewise with their fellow man. ~St. 
Francis

Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...




Yep, Pits are awesome dogs, I've known a few of them. It's all about how 
they are raised. Other than a good vet exam, and deworming, dogs, even extremely 
emaciated ones, generally do great with just food and care. They aren't like 
cats in that they don't get fatty liver from starvation. You'll want to get a 
heartworm test right away too, the sooner you treat, the better the 
chances.
Phaewryn

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RE: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

Thanks Diane!  She's sleeping like a baby right now.

--- Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just seconding Elizabeth's thank you!  This girlie
 is lucky she found you
 two.
 
 Diane R.
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:22 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to
 Nina or anyone else with
 experience re...
 
 
   Wendy,
   What a wonderful thing you did!  I never knew how
 truly beautiful a pit
 bull could be until I met my neighbor's dog.  I wish
 I were more
 knowledgeable so I could help you - but just wanted
 to thank you for doing
 such a noble thing.
 
   love,
   elizabeth
 
   In a message dated 10/29/2006 5:17:37 P.M. Central
 Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi guys,
 
 My husband and I were driving out in the country
 this
 afternoon on our way home from visiting my
 grandfather
 who just had a pacemaker put in, and saw a white
 Pit
 Bull (looks like a puppy; we aren't sure)
 walking down
 the side of a fairly busy road.  It was very
 emaciated
 and looked like it was scavenging for food.  We
 discussed it and turned around to check on the
 dog.
 We pulled up to the dog and I called out to it
 and it
 wagged it's tail but cowered.  I got out of the
 car
 and went over to the dog slowly, and she just
 laid
 down and rolled over.  She was clearly starving,
 and
 not in great shape.  She also looked like she
 had been
 nursing puppies, although I can't tell how long.
  We
 couldn't find any puppies nearby.  We decided to
 take
 the dog home with us.  We figured that even if
 she did
 have puppies, she couldn't take care of them if
 she
 gets hit by the cars that were driving by at 70+
 mph,
 or if she starves to death.  Although I'm sad we
 had
 to leave her puppies (if there were any), I feel
 like
 we made the right decision.  We stopped by
 Walmart and
 bought wet food and water and dishes and fed her
 on
 the trip and she's now home with us.  We may or
 may
 not keep her.  My husband has always wanted a
 pit
 bull; he thinks they are beautiful.  But we
 already
 have two dogs, and I don't know how they'll
 accept
 her.  She's completely docile, but one of ours
 may
 give her trouble.  So far so good; our two are
 in the
 dog run right now and aren't growling at her.  I
 am
 going to try to see if there's a Pit Bull Rescue
 here
 in Dallas.  If we don't keep her, I don't want
 to
 adopt her out myself or turn her over to any
 shelter
 because of her breed.  I don't want someone to
 adopt
 her just to try to breed her or fight her.  She
 looks
 and acts as if she's already been treated badly
 enough.  We are going to take her to the vet and
 have
 her checked out, probably wormed, and given a
 pill to
 dry up her milk.  Does anyone have any advice as
 to
 how we should care for her?  Anything else we
 can do
 for her?
 
 Thanks,
 Wendy
 
 
   If you have men who will exclude any of God's
 creatures from the shelter
 of compassion and pity, you will have men who will
 deal likewise with their
 fellow man. ~St. Francis
 



 

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Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

Thanks Phaewryn-I will add that test to the list of
things to do at the vet!  Glad to have you back!

:)
Wendy

--- Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep, Pits are awesome dogs, I've known a few of
 them. It's all about how they are raised. Other than
 a good vet exam, and deworming, dogs, even extremely
 emaciated ones, generally do great with just food
 and care. They aren't like cats in that they don't
 get fatty liver from starvation. You'll want to get
 a heartworm test right away too, the sooner you
 treat, the better the chances.
 
 Phaewryn
 
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Thanks... I advised someone on the Bengal Rescue Network yahoogroup to join 
here for advice (she thinks her cat may have cancer, and needs help reading the 
CBC panel)... and anyways,I thought well, if she joins, it would be nice 
if I was here for her! Things are settled down here pretty well (with my son). I 
made Zack his winter house today... put plastic up on the porch for a 
wind-break. Working on a new feral cat flyer to post around town for winterizing 
tips. You know, same ole, same ole! :)

Glad to be back!
Phaewryn

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2006-10-29 Thread Sheila208



 Wendy, God bless you and your husband. I want to cry every time I hear of someone taking pity on these poor babies.
 I was taking my husband to the hospital last week on the Interstate and about mid way of a 20 mile desolate stretch we saw something in the medium( we thought was a tire recap) as we were passing We saw it was a black dog that someone had dumped .There were no houses or stores within miles. I took my husband to the VA hospital for an appointment we couldn't reschedule - took at least an hour - before we could get back to the place where we saw the dog. He was not there we looked for him both sides of the Interstate for 2 hrs. I just pray that some kind hearted person saw him and stopped in time to save him. I have not had a day go by that I don't regret not stopping and getting that baby when we first saw him. His little face still haunts me.
So thank you for doing what I wish I had done. By the way I had a pit bull 12 years I raised from a baby . He was the sweetest loving dog I have ever owned. Never bit anyone and never seemed to have a bad day. He died of heart disease in myhusbands arms. I hope you will all be happy together. Gratefully, Sheila

To Sheila: Re: OT: Need help with rescued dog; to Nina or anyone else with experience re...

Hey Sheila,

Thanks for replying.  I hope your husband is doing
well.  Don't feel too badly about not picking up that
dog.  It might not have been for you to do so, but for
someone else who might have been ten minutes behind
you.  Sometimes it's just the way things are supposed
to be.  Out of the four dogs we saw on the road today,
this is the one we ended up picking up (not that we
were looking for a dog!)  Did you and your husband own
any other dogs when you owned your pit bull?  This dog
is so sweet.  Someone would be lucky to have her, but
I agree with Nina; it should probably be someone
without children, and my husband and I are planning on
having kids very soon, God willing.  I am so sorry you
lost your beloved dog.  He sounds like he was part of
the family!

:)
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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....




Absolutely sure? Check out this webpage:
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
(I think most people will be shocked by the results if they take the 
quiz)
Phaewryn

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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the 
quiz..
LOL
Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....




Me neither, but I'd seen it before, and failed it... so that's why I posted 
it, because I know it's really hard to tell a pit "for sure".
Phaewryn

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To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

P.S.  We are absolutely sure she's a Pit Bull.  She
might be mixed, but her head is unmistakably pit bull.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wendy,
 I'm glad your rescue girl is in out of danger and
 sleeping soundly.  I 
 do wonder about her puppies though.  Life can be so
 tough sometimes. 
 
 Unfortunately I have to second Karen's input on
 Pits. (Congratulations 
 on placing the pos today Karen!).  You probably know
 me well enough to 
 understand how it pains me to generalize about any
 breed, but Pits have 
 the rep they do for a reason.  I have met plenty of
 of lovable ones, but 
 they have to be well trained and adhere to a
 different kind of 
 interaction than say, a Golden Retriever.  I don't
 specialize in 
 aggression problems, but I've seen dogs that wag
 their entire bodies 
 when they greet you, turn mighty ugly mighty fast
 when matched with an 
 owner that isn't alpha enough to influence their
 behavior sufficiently.  
 Any breed of dog can have these problems, but this
 is a breed that is 
 known for them.  Esp since you have no idea of her
 history, you'll need 
 to stay alert and help her understand that you are
 capable of making 
 decisions in order to insure everyone is safe.  Are
 you absolutely sure 
 that she's Pit x and not something else?  Perhaps
 Boxer, or Lab?  I much 
 prefer to see Pit Bulls placed in an 'only pet' home
 with no children 
 situation.  If the vet thinks she's a Pit Bull, I
 would contact the Pit 
 Bull rescue in your area and see if they are willing
 to help you place 
 this girl.  It's a good sign that she's not
 immediately fence fighting 
 with your other dogs, but it could just be because
 she's worn out and is 
 waiting to feel out the situation. 
 
 I've also heard about Thyroid problems causing
 sudden aggression, I wish 
 I could remember the details involved, you can
 probably Google it and 
 find out more.
 
 She was sent to you for a reason.  Just be careful
 and think carefully 
 about making a long-term commitment to her.  You may
 just be meant to be 
 the go-between in finding her true forever home. 
 Good luck sweetie 
 and thank you for helping her.
 Nina
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Phaewryn and all,
  Well I have been doing dog and until recently pit
 rescue for 20 some 
  years.
  I am afraid I do not agree. I had a pit from
 weaning till 4 1/2 years 
  and she turned or developed sudden rage. A
 beloved indoor family 
  fully vetted dog became a killer in 6 months.
  I also have a foster who was attacked by her own
 pit with injuries 
  including 26 staples in her head. Also from a dog
 with sudden rage 
  syndrome.
  Never no matter how long you have them trust a pit
 completely. They 
  were born and bred to kill and that is what they
 do best.
  My pit Judas used to help me potty bottle baby
 kittens,. then started 
  chewing up pups.
  When you get yours checked please include a test
 for lyme and 
  thyroid.another major cause of aggression in
 pits and other breeds 
  of dogs.
  A rescued pit needs lots of training love patience
 and RESPECT.
  I  have only read a few of these emails we had
 petco adoptions all 
  weekend but good luck with the pit.
  BY THE WAY ALL I PLACE A FIV POSITIVE CAT TODAY
 WHO WILL HAVE A FIV 
  BUDDY TO HANG WITH.
  KAREN
 



 

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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....