Stan,
A water fountain is a good way to get a cat to drink more. There
are quite a few to choose from. Here's a link to a couple from KV vet
supply:
http://www.kvvet.com/KVVet/dept.asp?dept_id=741gift=False0=dept.asp%2Cdept_id%3D198%26Tree%3D%2CComplete
Hi, It cut way down on the number I saw. You will not fine dead ones.
They carry the boric acid back to their nest and then they explode. The
reason for that is they can't Fart
Hi, I agree with you whole heartily. I have had to say no as my limit
was at 18 and that is in a one bedroom condo. There are people who just
do not realize that they are in over their head. As for the dead cats in
her backyard...Come On The live ones needed the money and time. I know
many people
Hi, I could not have said it better
That Hospital would have had to pay for their disposal. They do not
get to dispose the expired animals for free
Jenn,
I know this is after the fact - but I wasn't online last night...
Dasani water (by the makers of Coke) has potassium and magnesium added.
It's probable not very much - but it's better than most water.
I hope she's doing better this morning!
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Wed, 25 May 2005 [EMAIL
Jenn,
Also remember the raw liver shake - it can be very nourishing.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Wed, 25 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 23:23:33 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: emergency
Fluids can be harmful if the cat is having fluid related heart
problems, I have on one of my lists heard about a cat that was almost
killed by too much fluids per the vets instructions.
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post
I. too have been worried about
Michelle,
Poor girl, having to face so MANY abdolutely
terrible illness/diseases with her babies..
And losing Prpsi.
I jusy pray Ginger is improving and Fern, is
gomfortable.
too many major health issues going
on.
Mu heart goes out to her and her furkids, and
Just FYI: I saw a report this past weekend on how all these sports drinks and energy waters are so horrible for the body...too much acid, it strips the calcuim right from the teeth and other bones, and most are loaded with caffine. If you must give something, ask the vet if Pedialight (sp?) used
This is the last time I'll comment on this thread, I promise
Yes, vet hospitals, shelters, etc. DO have to pay ...per pound...to dispose of the deceased animals this is why they charge for drop offs. (This is why the owner of DAR in MD was charged with dumping carcusses from his no kill into
Barbara,
Actually Jersey started to looked much better but he is not able to stand on his back legs.
Now he is n the clinic for X-rays and in the afternoon the doctor will call me.
There are many outcomes- transplantation, medications, nothing to be done,
I am waiting...
Thanks
StanFrom:
Yes the pedialight is good, definitely stay away from the sports drink most do have caffiene and sugar with very little if any added nutrients. The Pedialite would be better than the water and sports drinks if your baby has been seldem eating and drinking.
I apoligize for not being up to date on
Michelle,
I am so sorry about Pepsi and Fern...wow you have been through a lot all at
once...I bet the retreat will be a great thing for you too.My prayers are
with you to be ok...
Lisa and the
furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and
Anza
Dear Jenn:
Do you have a dripbag of LRS and are you able to give her subQ fluids? If
not, then use Pedialyte (fluid w/electrolytes for babies, the non-flavored
sort)
available at most supermarkets and give her fluids orally with a syringe, a
little (5-10 ml) at a time every hour or so. Give
you're right, of course, belinda, in cases of diagnosed heart
conditions; i wasn't thinking things out guess this is a good one
to research in advance--i'm not sure that i'd choose the possibility
of harm over the probability of the benefits of hydration, tho,
especially in the case of a cat
Dear Group,
It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby
crossed over on Tues. evening (Mar. 24th). I had taken him to the vet
clinic that morning, to obtain some repeat blood work to check his numbers from
the previous week. Our intent was to then take him the next morning to see
I'm so sorry. Please know we are here for you.
Mia and kittiesMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Group,
It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby crossed over on Tues. evening (Mar. 24th). I had taken him to the vet clinic that morning, to obtain some repeat blood work
Marlene,
I am so sorry it was Digby's time. What wonderful compassionate vets you have, definitely keepers:) How peaceful for Digby to be able to pass in his favorite place, surrounded by his loving family, feeling safe and confident.
Our thoughts and tears are with you.
HUGSMarlene Chornie
Title: Message
Dear
Marlene
I'm so
sorry to hear you've lost your dear little Digby, after the hard struggle you
and he have gone through.
I'm
amazed and impressed by the vet who came because she wanted to be with you all.
Vets really do come in all "shapes and sizes."
I had
also never
Marleen
My heart goes out to you at this time. I know that Digby will be
missed and will live in your hearts forever.
Again I am truly sorry for your loss of sweet Digby.
Carla
From: Marlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date
I have bad news form the vet. she said the problem was somewhere beteen the kidneys. I am confused. Is the leukimia really causing everything or the doctor cannot find the reason?
Yestereday he was eating good and looked good. Are the doctors really qualified enough?
She offered me euthanesia.
I
Marlene,
I'm so sorry to hear about Digby. I'm glad he was able to pass with you near, in his favorite spot. What a wonderful idea you had about allowing his body to be examined! I wish I had had the presence of mind to do that when Quintapus passed-it never occured to me, but I will remember for
Title: Message
Marlene,
I am
so sorry about Digby. That he passed so gently,in his favorite
spot surrounded by people who loved him, is indeed a
blessing.
Take
care and again, please accept my sympathies,
Joan
-Original Message-From: Marlene Chornie
[mailto:[EMAIL
I am so sorry for your loss, and glad thatDigby did not suffer. It was a nice thing for your vet to come to the house. I had a CRF kitty that died in pain 4 years ago that and it was so heart breaking to see. I hope i never have to go through that again. How old was Digby?
Barbara BaassMarlene
Stan,
Cats with chronic renal failure/kidney disease are said to have rear
leg weakness from lack of phosphorus.
Bonnie
www.elephants.com
---BeginMessage---
Barbara,
Actually Jersey started to looked much better but he is not able to stand on his back legs.
Now he is n the clinic for
I am sorry for your loss Marlene, Digby is I am sure better now, my thoughts and prayers are with you.
CherieMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Group,
It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby crossed over on Tues. evening (Mar. 24th). I had taken him to the vet clinic
Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I called my vet today
(the better one), and told them what I had, and what I was doing, and they said
without bringing her in for bloodwork (which would require a 12 hour fasting
that I don't think she would live through at this point), I was doing
Jenn,
That all sounds very promising, especially Jeff's love at first meow!
I agree about the fasting. There's no way I would withhold food from
an emaciated kitty. If she's showing signs of rehydration, I wouldn't
worry too much about her not drinking. Cats get most of their water
from their
sorry. I have no experience with CRF or Jersey's
problem of weak back legs. what do the cat owners on the CRF say? has anyone
there offered any helpful info or suggestions?
Have you asked your vet for referral to a
specialist(if you can afford the vet fees?)---don't be worried about hurting
Thanks a lot Barbara. I just chose the vet from the list. I can afford to pay let's say 500- 600. By the way, I have a pet insuarance but it is from a month ago. I don't know if they cover past diseases?
Does anybody know about that?
I mean, insuarance companies have lots of protection.
I am
I'm so very sorry for your loss Marlene. I only wish that my
cats could have gone in such a wonderfully peaceful way. None of my local vets
will do house calls, your vet sounds like a great person. It sounds like you did
the absolute best you could for Digby, and you should be proud of that.
Great work Jenn!
Let's hope she turns out felv negative.
Bonnie
www.elephants.com
Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I called my vet today
(the better one), and told them what I had, and what I was doing, and they said
without bringing her in for bloodwork (which would require a 12
Stan try to get Eubanuka or Science Diet AD to feed him they are
both high in calories and can be blended to syringe feed if necessary.
Try and get atleast a can's worth into Jersey through-out the day. Both
can be bought from a vet, I think you can buy the Eubanuka at a pet
store also,
Marlene,
I'm very sorrow to hear that Digby has passed, he is forever in your
heart. Take care ...
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
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I have one of the petmate fresh flowfountains, and my
cats LOVE it (though I still have one that HAS to have you turn the bathroom
sink faucet on everytime you go into the bathroom). If you buy one, go ahead and
buy MANY refill filters, because in my experience they only last 2 weeks max,
Gatorade has water, glucose, sucrose, citric acid, salt,
potassium, colors, and flavors, NO CAFFEINE. I would NEVER be stupid enough to
give any pet any caffeine.
Glucose and sucrose are quick sources of carbohydrates, and
carbs are fast acting calories, which converts into easy to process
Stan, maybe I missed this info in your first email, but how
long has he been this way? Has he always had a weakness in his back legs, or did
this just come on recently? You said he is only 2 years old, right? There are,
of course, many different things that can cause it, from brain damage,
Sorry to hear of Digby's passing
From: Marlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Digby has passed
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:24 -0400
Dear Group,
It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby crossed over
Marlene,
I'm so sorry to hear about your "Digby" but at least he was with his loved ones.His spirit will live on with you and in your heart.
I didn't have the option when Taz was let go...he was in surgery having a tumor removed from his skull and left Eye.
You and your family are in my
Hi Jenn, i don't know if it's just me(and getting
older) but the dark background and small type is hard to read. can you change
your font(is that the right word?) (or computer illiterate me--is there a way I
can change it?)
thanks,
barbara
usually insurance does not cover pre-existing
conditions from what I remember of my research of insurance for pets. did the
insurance require your cat have a full exam before approval or did the insurance
co. just take your money? if you didn't know jersey had leukemia until after you
Hi,
Finally I have the news about Jersey.
The vet said that the problem with the kidneys is due to FIV which is a relatively new disease.
She prescribed me some medications and suggested a blood transfusion (it is 100$, I expected 5-6 hundred)
She gave me: Interferon Alpha, Clavamox,
I am so sorry and angry that another beautiful fur child has succumbed to
this crappy unfair virus. I wish you peace and comfort in your memories of
Digby.
regards
Barbara
One more questions about Jersey.
I think that the common opinion for the blood transfusion is that cats can survive but not long?
Should I accept it or not?
Thanks, again
StanFrom: Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re:
I don't think gatorade is a problem. Doctors recommend it. Some of the 'high energy' or 'power' drinks do have some bad additives.
tMia Nicer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes the pedialight is good, definitely stay away from the sports drink most do have caffiene and sugar with very little if any
I am very sorry about Digby...
Hopefully and hopefully, the new century will give us the treatment for cancer !!!
Stan
Fern died on Sunday, the same day as Pepsi. Thank you for your
concern.
Michelle
In a message dated 5/26/05 9:02:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I. too have been worried about
Michelle,
Poor girl, having to face so MANY abdolutely
terrible illness/diseases
Marlene,
I'm so sorry for your loss. It sounds like it was very peaceful though, for all of you.That helps a lot, but I know you'll miss Digby. It sounds like you have wonderful vets.
Take care,
tonyaMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Group,
It is with great sadness that I tell
was just about to sign off for the night then saw
your question on transfusions.
i had 2 different experiences with blood
transfusions. one was with a less than year old cat with leukemia and it was two
days before xmas. Lenny(the cat) perhaps had a week of quality life with us
before we
oh my gosh, I am so sorry, Michelle. We are so lucky we get to love so many
beautiful wonderful creatures in our lifetime but it doesn't make it any easier
when they cross the bridge. I pray that you find solace in the memory of their
spirits.
Barbara
- Original Message -
From:
I agree - this is not reader-friendly. Older
here, too.
- Original Message -
From:
Barbara
Lowe
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:06
PM
Subject: Jenn/your posts-a question
Hi Jenn, i don't know if it's just me(and getting
I don't understand how the vet got from kidney disease to 'something between the kidneys'? What does that mean? Does she think there's a tumor?
Also, does she think Jersey had felv AND fiv?
I've never heard of either of them causing kidney problems. I don't know enough about the bloodwork, but I
Hi Jenn
To get her to drink try different types of bowls...Becouse there is
no smell for her to recognize she may be used to drinking out of a
different container...She maybe used to drinking out of a colored
plastic bowl which isn't the best but that's what a lot of people would
use...or in
Stan,
You will get much more knowledgeable
answers from folks on this list tomorrow but just a couple of
thoughts. Do you know if vet did both the Elissa the IFA test; the
Elissa is a simple test they do in the officetakes about 10 minutes; the
IFA, they send blood outtakes a day or
Hi Stan,
The liver shake is a very good thing for kitties that are anemic,
also why is Jersey getting clavomax, it is a strong antibiotic that
makes many cats feel very yucky and not want to eat. Jersey already
doesn't have much of an appetite, is there some sort of infection goinng
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