Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Has the vet suggested lactulose for the constipation? Does she get enough fluids? Canned food? I have a friend who has had a cat or more with CH. Is there an internal medicine specialist anywhere near you? Would you be interested in a telephone consult with one? L now I really am going off line for the night! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Laurie, I actually attached a small rug to a plastic carpet runner with those large metal clasps. She wouldn't use it. I'd place her on it and she would crawl off of it and go beside it when I had carpet there. Then I just started carrying her to her box a few times a day. She is very constipated. I think it is because she gets very little exercise/movement from her rear end and legs part of her body. She really just pulls her rear part along with her front limbs. She has very little muscle mass in her hind leg region. Her upper body strength is tremendous. I have found though that all this pulling herself along seems to exert so much energy from her that it will make her asthma start acting up. That's part of the reason I try to help her out as much as I can by taking her places. She also has lymphoid hypoplasia. She has already had one surgery to remove a few nodes and have them studied and she is in need of having this done again. She has a huge amount of real and "fake" enlarged lymph nodes around her intestines. Currently she is not healthy enough to have this surgery again to investigate more of what her problem might be with the enlargements of her nodes. CH is cerebellar hypoplasia. This is the definition from Wikopedia: Cerebellar hypoplasia is a disorder found in cats and dogs in which the cerebellum is not completely mature at birth. Usually symptoms of cerebellar hypoplasia can be seen immediately at birth in cats, but sometimes can take two months or so to become apparent in dogs. Cerebellar hypoplasia causes jerky movements, tremors and generally uncoordinated motion. The animal often falls down and has trouble walking. Tremors increase when the animal is excited and subside when at ease. There are several bacterial infections and viral infections such as feline panleukopenia, caused by feline parvovirus, [1] that can result in the disorder in both cats and dogs. However, the disease can also be caused by malnutrition, poisoning, injury or general accidents during development in the fetus. The disease does not get better or worse with age, but the cat or dog can usually learn to somewhat compensate for it and should have a normal lifespan. Most afflicted animals can lead a fairly normal life if special considerations for the animal's disability are taken by the pet's owner. "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hi Kim Wonder if you put a rug or towel in the litter box if she would use it there. Wonder if the sides of the box scare her. I try to "think like a cat". She is telling you she likes something soft and flat to urinate. I feel your fear. Sometimes when I don't know what to do, I put it "out there" when I go to bed and sometimes I know what to do in the morning. Have you considered acupuncture? A friend had this for her cat whose rear legs were no longer working and she had a complete return of function. That kitty did not have FELV or the other issues you are dealing with. (What is CH?) The fits seem so odd...I am recalling that my Teddy (also asthmatic) started having what looked like seizures. He would stop with one paw in the air, like he was frozen. By the time I rushed him to the vet, it had passed. He would thrash around in the bed at night. After he died we discovered he had metastasized lung cancer. The vet didn't know how he could even breathe because his lungs were so full of cancer. The specialists did not detect his cancer despite doing biopsies (including a needle biopsy of his lungs), blood work, etc. I was frustrated to learn the vet did not include Teddy's brain in the necropsy as I truly felt he must have had some cancer in his brain because of the apparent seizures. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Please look into inhaled medications...they go directly to the lungs (obviously). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Her name is Itty Bitty and my vet has only given us prednisone to use. She was also put on an oral mediation to enlarge her bronchial tubes but the medication did not help her as much as the prednisone has. "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Has anyone suggested inhaled medications for the asthma? flovent for preventive and albuterol for asthma attacks? Frankie takes Flovent twice a day for his asthma. What is your kitty's name? - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Laurie, I actually attached a small rug to a plastic carpet runner with those large metal clasps. She wouldn't use it. I'd place her on it and she would crawl off of it and go beside it when I had carpet there. Then I just started carrying her to her box a few times a day. She is very constipated. I think it is because she gets very little exercise/movement from her rear end and legs part of her body. She really just pulls her rear part along with her front limbs. She has very little muscle mass in her hind leg region. Her upper body strength is tremendous. I have found though that all this pulling herself along seems to exert so much energy from her that it will make her asthma start acting up. That's part of the reason I try to help her out as much as I can by taking her places. She also has lymphoid hypoplasia. She has already had one surgery to remove a few nodes and have them studied and she is in need of having this done again. She has a huge amount of real and "fake" enlarged lymph nodes around her intestines. Currently she is not healthy enough to have this surgery again to investigate more of what her problem might be with the enlargements of her nodes. CH is cerebellar hypoplasia. This is the definition from Wikopedia: Cerebellar hypoplasia is a disorder found in cats and dogs in which the cerebellum is not completely mature at birth. Usually symptoms of cerebellar hypoplasia can be seen immediately at birth in cats, but sometimes can take two months or so to become apparent in dogs. Cerebellar hypoplasia causes jerky movements, tremors and generally uncoordinated motion. The animal often falls down and has trouble walking. Tremors increase when the animal is excited and subside when at ease. There are several bacterial infections and viral infections such as feline panleukopenia, caused by feline parvovirus, [1] that can result in the disorder in both cats and dogs. However, the disease can also be caused by malnutrition, poisoning, injury or general accidents during development in the fetus. The disease does not get better or worse with age, but the cat or dog can usually learn to somewhat compensate for it and should have a normal lifespan. Most afflicted animals can lead a fairly normal life if special considerations for the animal's disability are taken by the pet's owner. "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hi Kim Wonder if you put a rug or towel in the litter box if she would use it there. Wonder if the sides of the box scare her. I try to "think like a cat". She is telling you she likes something soft and flat to urinate. I feel your fear. Sometimes when I don't know what to do, I put it "out there" when I go to bed and sometimes I know what to do in the morning. Have you considered acupuncture? A friend had this for her cat whose rear legs were no longer working and she had a complete return of function. That kitty did not have FELV or the other issues you are dealing with. (What is CH?) The fits seem so odd...I am recalling that my Teddy (also asthmatic) started having what looked like seizures. He would stop with one paw in the air, like he was frozen. By the time I rushed him to the vet, it had passed. He would thrash around in the bed at night. After he died we discovered he had metastasized lung cancer. The vet didn't know how he could even breathe because his lungs were so full of cancer. The specialists did not detect his cancer despite doing biopsies (including a needle biopsy of his lungs), blood work, etc. I was frustrated to learn the vet did not include Teddy's brain in the necropsy as I truly felt he must have had some cancer in his brain because of the apparent seizures. L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Her name is Itty Bitty and my vet has only given us prednisone to use. She was also put on an oral mediation to enlarge her bronchial tubes but the medication did not help her as much as the prednisone has. "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Has anyone suggested inhaled medications for the asthma? flovent for preventive and albuterol for asthma attacks? Frankie takes Flovent twice a day for his asthma. What is your kitty's name? - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Has anyone suggested inhaled medications for the asthma? flovent for preventive and albuterol for asthma attacks? Frankie takes Flovent twice a day for his asthma. What is your kitty's name? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hi Kim Wonder if you put a rug or towel in the litter box if she would use it there. Wonder if the sides of the box scare her. I try to "think like a cat". She is telling you she likes something soft and flat to urinate. I feel your fear. Sometimes when I don't know what to do, I put it "out there" when I go to bed and sometimes I know what to do in the morning. Have you considered acupuncture? A friend had this for her cat whose rear legs were no longer working and she had a complete return of function. That kitty did not have FELV or the other issues you are dealing with. (What is CH?) The fits seem so odd...I am recalling that my Teddy (also asthmatic) started having what looked like seizures. He would stop with one paw in the air, like he was frozen. By the time I rushed him to the vet, it had passed. He would thrash around in the bed at night. After he died we discovered he had metastasized lung cancer. The vet didn't know how he could even breathe because his lungs were so full of cancer. The specialists did not detect his cancer despite doing biopsies (including a needle biopsy of his lungs), blood work, etc. I was frustrated to learn the vet did not include Teddy's brain in the necropsy as I truly felt he must have had some cancer in his brain because of the apparent seizures. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hi Laurie, I Hate myself for having thoughts of letting her go at such a young age. She is a very beautiful cat whom I have raised since she was one day old. She was brought to me on Mother's Day in 2008. Her CH was made worse when I had her vaccinated and again when I had her spayed. It seems like I have done the wrong thing to her constantly because of lack of knowledge. I don't think my vet will come here to euthanize her. She will start having a "fit" once I put her in a carrier to take her there. If I carry her she will "fit" just from being in the car. I am so upset and just don't know what to do. It is comforting to hear that your cat bites you too when he has asthma attacks. At least I know this is normal now. I am so sorry you have to go through this though. AS you know, an attack is so hard on them. I know my cat only bites us because she cannot breathe...the same as yours. I've had cats for over 20 years now and she is my first one to have asthma as well as so many other health issues. She stopped going to her litter box after I had all the carpeting removed from our home. This wasn't the smartest thing for me to do but at the time I didn't put two and two together. She needed the carpet to get around with her CH. I Have since went back and placed area rugs around the house over the hard wood floors to aid her walking abilities. This has helped about 80%. She still will not go to her potty and when I take her there and place her in the potty she will fight with me and start having a "fit." It is like my placing her in the litter box makes her have an asthma attack. I feel like everything I have done has worked against her. This is the last thing I ever wanted to do. I only take her to the potty about two times a day now and when she starts fighting with me I take her out immediately before she gets too worked up and then she rushes to the hallway and potties on the runner rug I placed there. Taking her to the vet is so traumatic on her too and makes her so much worse. I am to the point I just don't know what to do. With all of her "fits" she has I think she would be better off passing. Actually, the last time I took her to the vet I was told that they weren't to sure she wouldn't die she was "fitting" so badly. After she is allowed to go home with me, she is great but then she will "fit" before I can even get her home and it seems like it is a never ending story with her. She has been dealing with this for about a month now and I just hate putting her through this! I don't even know what's best for her right now. Thanks, for answering my email. You have helped me greatly just letting me know you and your cat go through this too. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Hi Kim Wonder if you put a rug or towel in the litter box if she would use it there. Wonder if the sides of the box scare her. I try to "think like a cat". She is telling you she likes something soft and flat to urinate. I feel your fear. Sometimes when I don't know what to do, I put it "out there" when I go to bed and sometimes I know what to do in the morning. Have you considered acupuncture? A friend had this for her cat whose rear legs were no longer working and she had a complete return of function. That kitty did not have FELV or the other issues you are dealing with. (What is CH?) The fits seem so odd...I am recalling that my Teddy (also asthmatic) started having what looked like seizures. He would stop with one paw in the air, like he was frozen. By the time I rushed him to the vet, it had passed. He would thrash around in the bed at night. After he died we discovered he had metastasized lung cancer. The vet didn't know how he could even breathe because his lungs were so full of cancer. The specialists did not detect his cancer despite doing biopsies (including a needle biopsy of his lungs), blood work, etc. I was frustrated to learn the vet did not include Teddy's brain in the necropsy as I truly felt he must have had some cancer in his brain because of the apparent seizures. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hi Laurie, I Hate myself for having thoughts of letting her go at such a young age. She is a very beautiful cat whom I have raised since she was one day old. She was brought to me on Mother's Day in 2008. Her CH was made worse when I had her vaccinated and again when I had her spayed. It seems like I have done the wrong thing to her constantly because of lack of knowledge. I don't think my vet will come here to euthanize her. She will start having a "fit" once I put her in a carrier to take her there. If I carry her she will "fit" just from being in the car. I am so upset and just don't know what to do. It is comforting to hear that your cat bites you too when he has asthma attacks. At least I know this is normal now. I am so sorry you have to go through this though. AS you know, an attack is so hard on them. I know my cat only bites us because she cannot breathe...the same as yours. I've had cats for over 20 years now and she is my first one to have asthma as well as so many other health issues. She stopped going to her litter box after I had all the carpeting removed from our home. This wasn't the smartest thing for me to do but at the time I didn't put two and two together. She needed the carpet to get around with her CH. I Have since went back and placed area rugs around the house over the hard wood floors to aid her walking abilities. This has helped about 80%. She still will not go to her potty and when I take her there and place her in the potty she will fight with me and start having a "fit." It is like my placing her in the litter box makes her have an asthma attack. I feel like everything I have done has worked against her. This is the last thing I ever wanted to do. I only take her to the potty about two times a day now and when she starts fighting with me I take her out immediately before she gets too worked up and then she rushes to the hallway and potties on the runner rug I placed there. Taking her to the vet is so traumatic on her too and makes her so much worse. I am to the point I just don't know what to do. With all of her "fits" she has I think she would be better off passing. Actually, the last time I took her to the vet I was told that they weren't to sure she wouldn't die she was "fitting" so badly. After she is allowed to go home with me, she is great but then she will "fit" before I can even get her home and it seems like it is a never ending story with her. She has been dealing with this for about a month now and I just hate putting her through this! I don't even know what's best for her right now. Thanks, for answering my email. You have helped me greatly just letting me know you and your cat go through this too. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? I am sorry to hear this. My asthmatic cat bites me. I think he is terrified when he
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Cougar Clan, Thanks for your email to me. I know my cat is just defending herself too; like the feral one that bite youShe is only doing it because she cannot breathe and doesn't know what to do. I really haven't even thought about my safety. I don't blame her at all. I love her so much but I hate seeing her this way. It breaks my heart. I Just sit here petting her and crying. I don't know what to do for her. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? This is concerning your safety and not the well-being of your wonderful cat who is having an awful time: Be very careful about those bites. Perhaps you can get some heavy leather gloves? I had a feral that I was taking to be spayed bite my little finger. She broke it and I had to have two surgeries, one to fix the finger and another to fix the infection that developed despite a lot of high powered antibiotics. The cat was defending herself and not at fault at all. However, had this been reported as is required in a lot of places, I know she would have been killed. Put this in the back of your mind when dealing with your little one. I wish I had some answers for her problems and hope you find some here. Blessings to you for loving her and trying to help her. She really can't help her behavior. On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Kim wrote: > > Jenny and other forum members, too, > > I have a young cat with CH, lymphoid hypoplasia and now severe > asthma. She > has weakened greatly in her hind legs and back. My vet has not been > able to > get her asthma under control. She has "spells" or "fits" and will > get very > very violent with us. She does this while wheezing but she also has > those > "fits" when I put her in her potty or when I put her in her cat > carrier to > take her to the vet. She has had several very bad "fits" where she > will > bite me, anything she can get a hold of. She has bitten me so badly, > down to > the bone, on two of my fingers. They are now swollen and very > painful. She > has done this to my husband too. These "fits" she keeps having is > NOT a > behavior my precious cat is known for. She is the sweetest most > loving cat > ever! > > My vet mentioned that she might have fluid on her brain. I don't > understand > this but I hate seeing my baby like this. Most of the time I am > unable to > help her. She "fits" worse if I put her in her carrier to take her > to the > vet. If I carry her she bites me badly. I am also unable, in most > cases to > get a prednisone pill down her when she is starts out having a > "fit". All I > am able to do is cry and stay beside her until she gets over it. > > Even though she is only one year and four months old I am thinking > about > allowing her to pass. My question to you is; is it easier for the > cat to be > put to sleep at the vet or to die at home? I really need to know > what to > expect. I love her so much and if I see her having a painful death > I will > go even more crazy! Currently she eats very little and I have been > syringe > feeding her. I know that if she doesn't eat she will get liver > disease. I > have a cat with liver disease before and it is a very hard thing to > watch > when they cannot stand up and when they are feeling so sick. I was > able to > save my cat who suffered from the liver disease but I don't know if > I can > knowing let my cat get the disease and pass away in that manner. > > Jenny, I am so sorry for your loss. It is one of the hardest things > we, as > pet owners, go through in life. Did your cat pass away peacefully > once you > stopped feeding her? > > Thanks for your answers. I know this is such a hard time for you and > so > sorry for asking you these questions at this time. > > I had written to this group about a month or so ago about her not > being able > to get in the litter box any more and fighting me when I put her in > it. I > had her urine checked and she was fine. I truly do think something > has gone > wrong in her mind but this is something totally new that I am going > through > and I don't know what to expect. > > Kim > > > > > "...Saving just on
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Hi Laurie, I Hate myself for having thoughts of letting her go at such a young age. She is a very beautiful cat whom I have raised since she was one day old. She was brought to me on Mother's Day in 2008. Her CH was made worse when I had her vaccinated and again when I had her spayed. It seems like I have done the wrong thing to her constantly because of lack of knowledge. I don't think my vet will come here to euthanize her. She will start having a "fit" once I put her in a carrier to take her there. If I carry her she will "fit" just from being in the car. I am so upset and just don't know what to do. It is comforting to hear that your cat bites you too when he has asthma attacks. At least I know this is normal now. I am so sorry you have to go through this though. AS you know, an attack is so hard on them. I know my cat only bites us because she cannot breathe...the same as yours. I've had cats for over 20 years now and she is my first one to have asthma as well as so many other health issues. She stopped going to her litter box after I had all the carpeting removed from our home. This wasn't the smartest thing for me to do but at the time I didn't put two and two together. She needed the carpet to get around with her CH. I Have since went back and placed area rugs around the house over the hard wood floors to aid her walking abilities. This has helped about 80%. She still will not go to her potty and when I take her there and place her in the potty she will fight with me and start having a "fit." It is like my placing her in the litter box makes her have an asthma attack. I feel like everything I have done has worked against her. This is the last thing I ever wanted to do. I only take her to the potty about two times a day now and when she starts fighting with me I take her out immediately before she gets too worked up and then she rushes to the hallway and potties on the runner rug I placed there. Taking her to the vet is so traumatic on her too and makes her so much worse. I am to the point I just don't know what to do. With all of her "fits" she has I think she would be better off passing. Actually, the last time I took her to the vet I was told that they weren't to sure she wouldn't die she was "fitting" so badly. After she is allowed to go home with me, she is great but then she will "fit" before I can even get her home and it seems like it is a never ending story with her. She has been dealing with this for about a month now and I just hate putting her through this! I don't even know what's best for her right now. Thanks, for answering my email. You have helped me greatly just letting me know you and your cat go through this too. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? I am sorry to hear this. My asthmatic cat bites me. I think he is terrified when he can't breathe. He is also blind which could be a factor. He is not FeLV+. We had a FeLV+ who was having tremors. The vet thought it might FeLV+have been a medication we were giving her. Re the bite, I use Calendula gel and also soak the bite area in Epsom salts. It is important to prevent infection. Calendula was recommended by a vet and works amazingly well. If it gets infected you may need antibiotics. You can give prednisone transdermally (inside the outer area of the ear..not into the ear canal itself). It does not need to be given by mouth. None of this answers your question but these are thoughts I had. Also, will your vet come to the house if you decide on euthanasia? I think that is easier for everyone. Is your kitty suffering? Above all I think we owe them that...to not suffer. Bless you. This is a difficult decision. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Jenny and other forum members, too, I have a young cat with CH, lymphoid hypoplasia and now severe asthma. She has weakened greatly in her hind legs and back. My vet has not been able to get her asthma under control. She has "spells" or "fits" and will get very very violent with us. She does this while wheezing but she also has those "fits" when I put her in her potty or when I put her in her cat carrier to take her to the vet. She has had sev
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
This is concerning your safety and not the well-being of your wonderful cat who is having an awful time: Be very careful about those bites. Perhaps you can get some heavy leather gloves? I had a feral that I was taking to be spayed bite my little finger. She broke it and I had to have two surgeries, one to fix the finger and another to fix the infection that developed despite a lot of high powered antibiotics. The cat was defending herself and not at fault at all. However, had this been reported as is required in a lot of places, I know she would have been killed. Put this in the back of your mind when dealing with your little one. I wish I had some answers for her problems and hope you find some here. Blessings to you for loving her and trying to help her. She really can't help her behavior. On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Kim wrote: Jenny and other forum members, too, I have a young cat with CH, lymphoid hypoplasia and now severe asthma. She has weakened greatly in her hind legs and back. My vet has not been able to get her asthma under control. She has "spells" or "fits" and will get very very violent with us. She does this while wheezing but she also has those "fits" when I put her in her potty or when I put her in her cat carrier to take her to the vet. She has had several very bad "fits" where she will bite me, anything she can get a hold of. She has bitten me so badly, down to the bone, on two of my fingers. They are now swollen and very painful. She has done this to my husband too. These "fits" she keeps having is NOT a behavior my precious cat is known for. She is the sweetest most loving cat ever! My vet mentioned that she might have fluid on her brain. I don't understand this but I hate seeing my baby like this. Most of the time I am unable to help her. She "fits" worse if I put her in her carrier to take her to the vet. If I carry her she bites me badly. I am also unable, in most cases to get a prednisone pill down her when she is starts out having a "fit". All I am able to do is cry and stay beside her until she gets over it. Even though she is only one year and four months old I am thinking about allowing her to pass. My question to you is; is it easier for the cat to be put to sleep at the vet or to die at home? I really need to know what to expect. I love her so much and if I see her having a painful death I will go even more crazy! Currently she eats very little and I have been syringe feeding her. I know that if she doesn't eat she will get liver disease. I have a cat with liver disease before and it is a very hard thing to watch when they cannot stand up and when they are feeling so sick. I was able to save my cat who suffered from the liver disease but I don't know if I can knowing let my cat get the disease and pass away in that manner. Jenny, I am so sorry for your loss. It is one of the hardest things we, as pet owners, go through in life. Did your cat pass away peacefully once you stopped feeding her? Thanks for your answers. I know this is such a hard time for you and so sorry for asking you these questions at this time. I had written to this group about a month or so ago about her not being able to get in the litter box any more and fighting me when I put her in it. I had her urine checked and she was fine. I truly do think something has gone wrong in her mind but this is something totally new that I am going through and I don't know what to expect. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't start earlier, but I did the best with the knowledge I had at the time. I am so glad yours are doing well. It sounds like you have started early enough and they have a chance. I am so grateful for that. It seems that t
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
I am sorry to hear this. My asthmatic cat bites me. I think he is terrified when he can't breathe. He is also blind which could be a factor. He is not FeLV+. We had a FeLV+ who was having tremors. The vet thought it might have been a medication we were giving her. Re the bite, I use Calendula gel and also soak the bite area in Epsom salts. It is important to prevent infection. Calendula was recommended by a vet and works amazingly well. If it gets infected you may need antibiotics. You can give prednisone transdermally (inside the outer area of the ear..not into the ear canal itself). It does not need to be given by mouth. None of this answers your question but these are thoughts I had. Also, will your vet come to the house if you decide on euthanasia? I think that is easier for everyone. Is your kitty suffering? Above all I think we owe them that...to not suffer. Bless you. This is a difficult decision. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Jenny and other forum members, too, I have a young cat with CH, lymphoid hypoplasia and now severe asthma. She has weakened greatly in her hind legs and back. My vet has not been able to get her asthma under control. She has "spells" or "fits" and will get very very violent with us. She does this while wheezing but she also has those "fits" when I put her in her potty or when I put her in her cat carrier to take her to the vet. She has had several very bad "fits" where she will bite me, anything she can get a hold of. She has bitten me so badly, down to the bone, on two of my fingers. They are now swollen and very painful. She has done this to my husband too. These "fits" she keeps having is NOT a behavior my precious cat is known for. She is the sweetest most loving cat ever! My vet mentioned that she might have fluid on her brain. I don't understand this but I hate seeing my baby like this. Most of the time I am unable to help her. She "fits" worse if I put her in her carrier to take her to the vet. If I carry her she bites me badly. I am also unable, in most cases to get a prednisone pill down her when she is starts out having a "fit". All I am able to do is cry and stay beside her until she gets over it. Even though she is only one year and four months old I am thinking about allowing her to pass. My question to you is; is it easier for the cat to be put to sleep at the vet or to die at home? I really need to know what to expect. I love her so much and if I see her having a painful death I will go even more crazy! Currently she eats very little and I have been syringe feeding her. I know that if she doesn't eat she will get liver disease. I have a cat with liver disease before and it is a very hard thing to watch when they cannot stand up and when they are feeling so sick. I was able to save my cat who suffered from the liver disease but I don't know if I can knowing let my cat get the disease and pass away in that manner. Jenny, I am so sorry for your loss. It is one of the hardest things we, as pet owners, go through in life. Did your cat pass away peacefully once you stopped feeding her? Thanks for your answers. I know this is such a hard time for you and so sorry for asking you these questions at this time. I had written to this group about a month or so ago about her not being able to get in the litter box any more and fighting me when I put her in it. I had her urine checked and she was fine. I truly do think something has gone wrong in her mind but this is something totally new that I am going through and I don't know what to expect. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't st
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Jenny and other forum members, too, I have a young cat with CH, lymphoid hypoplasia and now severe asthma. She has weakened greatly in her hind legs and back. My vet has not been able to get her asthma under control. She has "spells" or "fits" and will get very very violent with us. She does this while wheezing but she also has those "fits" when I put her in her potty or when I put her in her cat carrier to take her to the vet. She has had several very bad "fits" where she will bite me, anything she can get a hold of. She has bitten me so badly, down to the bone, on two of my fingers. They are now swollen and very painful. She has done this to my husband too. These "fits" she keeps having is NOT a behavior my precious cat is known for. She is the sweetest most loving cat ever! My vet mentioned that she might have fluid on her brain. I don't understand this but I hate seeing my baby like this. Most of the time I am unable to help her. She "fits" worse if I put her in her carrier to take her to the vet. If I carry her she bites me badly. I am also unable, in most cases to get a prednisone pill down her when she is starts out having a "fit". All I am able to do is cry and stay beside her until she gets over it. Even though she is only one year and four months old I am thinking about allowing her to pass. My question to you is; is it easier for the cat to be put to sleep at the vet or to die at home? I really need to know what to expect. I love her so much and if I see her having a painful death I will go even more crazy! Currently she eats very little and I have been syringe feeding her. I know that if she doesn't eat she will get liver disease. I have a cat with liver disease before and it is a very hard thing to watch when they cannot stand up and when they are feeling so sick. I was able to save my cat who suffered from the liver disease but I don't know if I can knowing let my cat get the disease and pass away in that manner. Jenny, I am so sorry for your loss. It is one of the hardest things we, as pet owners, go through in life. Did your cat pass away peacefully once you stopped feeding her? Thanks for your answers. I know this is such a hard time for you and so sorry for asking you these questions at this time. I had written to this group about a month or so ago about her not being able to get in the litter box any more and fighting me when I put her in it. I had her urine checked and she was fine. I truly do think something has gone wrong in her mind but this is something totally new that I am going through and I don't know what to expect. Kim "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." "One small cat changes coming home to an empty house to coming home." -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't start earlier, but I did the best with the knowledge I had at the time. I am so glad yours are doing well. It sounds like you have started early enough and they have a chance. I am so grateful for that. It seems that this is an illness that needs to be treated when there are few or no signs or symptoms only a positive test. When we wait, it is too late. It is a shame most vets tell you to do nothing or put them down. Have their CBCs improved? I believe their energy was improving, right? If it were me, I would continue the treatment and have them retested for the virus in a few months. Maybe they'll turn negative. Thanks for asking, Alice and may God bless you and your little ones. Jenny On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: > Just wondering how she's doing-We are into our 2nd month with the > treatments and all is great with our 2. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia
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Jenny, I am so sorry Autumn had to leave you. I'm sure she is at the Bridge telling everykitty how much her mommy loved her. Hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't start earlier, but I did the best with the knowledge I had at the time. I am so glad yours are doing well. It sounds like you have started early enough and they have a chance. I am so grateful for that. It seems that this is an illness that needs to be treated when there are few or no signs or symptoms only a positive test. When we wait, it is too late. It is a shame most vets tell you to do nothing or put them down. Have their CBCs improved? I believe their energy was improving, right? If it were me, I would continue the treatment and have them retested for the virus in a few months. Maybe they'll turn negative. Thanks for asking, Alice and may God bless you and your little ones. Jenny On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: > Just wondering how she's doing-We are into our 2nd month with the > treatments and all is great with our 2. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh Jenny, I am so sorry. I was just telling a mutual friend about Autumn today. Autumn was so lucky to know love in her short life. We get so much more than we giveGod bless you and Autumn. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn?? Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't start earlier, but I did the best with the knowledge I had at the time. I am so glad yours are doing well. It sounds like you have started early enough and they have a chance. I am so grateful for that. It seems that this is an illness that needs to be treated when there are few or no signs or symptoms only a positive test. When we wait, it is too late. It is a shame most vets tell you to do nothing or put them down. Have their CBCs improved? I believe their energy was improving, right? If it were me, I would continue the treatment and have them retested for the virus in a few months. Maybe they'll turn negative. Thanks for asking, Alice and may God bless you and your little ones. Jenny On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: > Just wondering how she's doing-We are into our 2nd month with the > treatments and all is great with our 2. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Hey Alice, Thanks for asking. Actually, Autumn stopped eating again last week and I found a large (3-4 inch) mass in her abdomen. I knew it was a large lymphoma so I let her stop eating and she died two days ago. I miss her deeply. She was so young and vital so full of life and love. I sincerely believe the Imulan and ambrotose could have save her life if I had started it earlier. I wish someone had told me about it before she was knocking at death's door. It is likely she had the lymphoma at the time I started treating her. Her bone marrow was resonding and so I am devastated I didn't start earlier, but I did the best with the knowledge I had at the time. I am so glad yours are doing well. It sounds like you have started early enough and they have a chance. I am so grateful for that. It seems that this is an illness that needs to be treated when there are few or no signs or symptoms only a positive test. When we wait, it is too late. It is a shame most vets tell you to do nothing or put them down. Have their CBCs improved? I believe their energy was improving, right? If it were me, I would continue the treatment and have them retested for the virus in a few months. Maybe they'll turn negative. Thanks for asking, Alice and may God bless you and your little ones. Jenny On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Alice Flowers wrote: > Just wondering how she's doing-We are into our 2nd month with the > treatments and all is great with our 2. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Jenny-How is Autumn??
Just wondering how she's doing-We are into our 2nd month with the treatments and all is great with our 2. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
