Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Well chances are it is negative, I do high volume rescue and have to say honestly I don't think I've done a second test on any of my own that I've kept (I don't mean that's a good thing or anything). I don't even live in a house so know how it is dealing with segregating (I have kittens in both bathrooms right now and much of the time). I just know this is a place where most on the list are interested in the various possibilities and experiences others have had with testing and such, so we tend to share those, it's just not a perfect or predictable world. So maybe something positive has already happened! And if not but you are able to find the kitten a good home--that is still a very positive thing. But sounds like you are taken with the kiddo so hope it works out:-) On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: > I understand and I'm very aware of that. I guess I just want this kitten to > have a good home but it might not be with us. > I lost 3 cats in this past year (only one to Felv) and I am just so ready > for something positive to happen in this household. A new kitten is such a > joy, but maybe not under these circumstances. It is to soon I'm afraid. > Still waiting to hear back from my vet, and then I will make my final > decision on what to do with this kitten. > > My other cats were exposed to my Felv+ cat (we just didn't know, until she > got sick) for almost a year and every single one of them tested negative in > the first test. > > 2010/12/8 Melinda Kerr > > > My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 > > months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another > cat. > > She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never > came > > home showing signs of a fight. > > > > Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when > > she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. > > > > So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also > > possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they > recommend > > retesting even for negatives. > > > > Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck > > wrote: > > > > > My other cats are all negative! > > > > > > But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know > > > about false positives being common, but not false negatives. > > > > > > What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? > > > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > > > Peggy > > > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > > > >> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will > be > > >> correct, or a false positive... > > >> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward > > at > > >> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy > improves. > > >> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > > >> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use > FeLV > > >> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are > > only > > >> 80% effective) > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > > Verdonck > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > >> > > >> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his > body > > >> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > > >> > > >> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > > >> > > >> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription > > and > > >> I > > >> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > > >> email, > > >> and waiting on her answer! > > >> > > >> Thanks for your input! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 2010/12/8 Natalie > > >> > > >>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > > >> have > > >>> false results. > > >>> > > >>>
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
I haven't had any false negatives...but it is possible. Let's say a cat has just been exposed to something and is tested; the antibodies haven't yet started to deal with itnegative. That's why they always say to retests after 3 months. In the rescue business, it's very hard to have to isolate each negative cat for three month. In over 18 yrs, we have not yet come across a negative that became a positive. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. My other cats are all negative! But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know about false positives being common, but not false negatives. What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? Thanks for your time! Peggy 2010/12/8 Natalie > You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be > correct, or a false positive... > If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at > our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. > Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV > vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only > 80% effective) > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body > parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > > What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > > I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and > I > will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > email, > and waiting on her answer! > > Thanks for your input! > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > have > > false results. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > She > > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > later. > > She was suffering! > > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > > same > > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > > Oreo for almost a year! > > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > > Found > > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to > take > > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate > into > > the group in about 2 weeks. > > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance > that > > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears > to > > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > > > Peggy > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Yes, and that there is no rule makes it so hard for me. Basicly if you know that it can go both ways, you can't really add another cat to your household because every negative can turn positive at one point. This disease is just very complicated. We got a good scare over this one cat turning out being + after living with our other indoor cats for almost a year. All our other cats turned out to be negative. We can't keep this poor kitten isolated for a couple of months untill everybody has been tested twice, that's why I thought to have the kitten tested and if negative, vaccinate against Felv. But to be honest to myself, the kitten needs to be tested twice also to make sure our other cats will be safe and not just him. 2010/12/8 Heather Wienker > Hi Peggy, > > Here is an example, when I rescued a double positive Mama and her kittens, > at first (6 weeks old, and pulled from Mom at that point) 2 tested double > positive, the other two positive for Fiv only. A vet and another rescuer > told me that with kittens from an felv+ Mom sometimes they will teat > negative at first but then 'go positive'-which unfortunatelybdid happen in > this case. The ones that initially tested + for fiv only, did go on to test > + for felv ( but all cleared the fiv) on multiple tests. All of her kittens > succumbed by 6 months to just over a year of age, but 3.5 years later, Mama > is still going. > > There is no "rule" I don't think, this is just an example of how a kitten > can test negative then turn out to be felv+ after all. And the opposite can > happen as well! > > Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= > > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: > > My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 >> months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. >> She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came >> home showing signs of a fight. >> >> Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when >> she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. >> >> So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also >> possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend >> retesting even for negatives. >> >> Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck >> wrote: >> >> My other cats are all negative! >>> >>> But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know >>> about false positives being common, but not false negatives. >>> >>> What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? >>> >>> Thanks for your time! >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> 2010/12/8 Natalie >>> >>> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be >>>> correct, or a false positive... >>>> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward >>>> at >>>> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. >>>> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? >>>> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV >>>> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are >>>> only >>>> 80% effective) >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy >>>> Verdonck >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. >>>> >>>> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body >>>> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. >>>> >>>> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? >>>> >>>> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription >>>> and >>>> I >>>> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an >>>> email, >>>> and waiting on her answer! >>>> >>>> Thanks for your input! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/12/8 Natalie >>>> >>>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can >>>>> >>>> have >>>&
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
I understand and I'm very aware of that. I guess I just want this kitten to have a good home but it might not be with us. I lost 3 cats in this past year (only one to Felv) and I am just so ready for something positive to happen in this household. A new kitten is such a joy, but maybe not under these circumstances. It is to soon I'm afraid. Still waiting to hear back from my vet, and then I will make my final decision on what to do with this kitten. My other cats were exposed to my Felv+ cat (we just didn't know, until she got sick) for almost a year and every single one of them tested negative in the first test. 2010/12/8 Melinda Kerr > My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 > months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. > She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came > home showing signs of a fight. > > Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when > she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. > > So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also > possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend > retesting even for negatives. > > Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck > wrote: > > > My other cats are all negative! > > > > But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know > > about false positives being common, but not false negatives. > > > > What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > Peggy > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > >> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be > >> correct, or a false positive... > >> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward > at > >> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. > >> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > >> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV > >> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are > only > >> 80% effective) > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > Verdonck > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > >> > >> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body > >> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > >> > >> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > >> > >> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription > and > >> I > >> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > >> email, > >> and waiting on her answer! > >> > >> Thanks for your input! > >> > >> > >> > >> 2010/12/8 Natalie > >> > >>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > >> have > >>> false results. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > Verdonck > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > >>> > >>> About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > >> She > >>> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > >> later. > >>> She was suffering! > >>> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > >>> same > >>> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living > with > >>> Oreo for almost a year! > >>> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > >>> > >>> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > >>> Found > >>> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to > >> take > >>> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > >>> He is now warm and safe in
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Hi Peggy, Here is an example, when I rescued a double positive Mama and her kittens, at first (6 weeks old, and pulled from Mom at that point) 2 tested double positive, the other two positive for Fiv only. A vet and another rescuer told me that with kittens from an felv+ Mom sometimes they will teat negative at first but then 'go positive'-which unfortunatelybdid happen in this case. The ones that initially tested + for fiv only, did go on to test + for felv ( but all cleared the fiv) on multiple tests. All of her kittens succumbed by 6 months to just over a year of age, but 3.5 years later, Mama is still going. There is no "rule" I don't think, this is just an example of how a kitten can test negative then turn out to be felv+ after all. And the opposite can happen as well! Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came home showing signs of a fight. Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend retesting even for negatives. Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck > wrote: My other cats are all negative! But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know about false positives being common, but not false negatives. What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? Thanks for your time! Peggy 2010/12/8 Natalie You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be correct, or a false positive... If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only 80% effective) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have false results. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came home showing signs of a fight. Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend retesting even for negatives. Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: > My other cats are all negative! > > But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know > about false positives being common, but not false negatives. > > What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? > > Thanks for your time! > > Peggy > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > >> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be >> correct, or a false positive... >> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at >> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. >> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? >> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV >> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only >> 80% effective) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. >> >> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body >> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. >> >> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? >> >> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and >> I >> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an >> email, >> and waiting on her answer! >> >> Thanks for your input! >> >> >> >> 2010/12/8 Natalie >> >>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can >> have >>> false results. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. >>> >>> About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. >> She >>> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week >> later. >>> She was suffering! >>> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the >>> same >>> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with >>> Oreo for almost a year! >>> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. >>> >>> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. >>> Found >>> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to >> take >>> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. >>> He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. >>> My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him >>> tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate >> into >>> the group in about 2 weeks. >>> Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance >> that >>> there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! >>> >>> We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears >> to >>> be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. >>> >>> Thanks for your thoughts! >>> >>> Peggy >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
My other cats are all negative! But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know about false positives being common, but not false negatives. What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? Thanks for your time! Peggy 2010/12/8 Natalie > You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be > correct, or a false positive... > If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at > our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. > Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV > vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only > 80% effective) > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body > parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > > What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > > I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and > I > will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > email, > and waiting on her answer! > > Thanks for your input! > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > have > > false results. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > She > > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > later. > > She was suffering! > > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > > same > > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > > Oreo for almost a year! > > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > > Found > > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to > take > > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate > into > > the group in about 2 weeks. > > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance > that > > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears > to > > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > > > Peggy > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be correct, or a false positive... If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only 80% effective) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have > false results. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Well, yes we had a felv positive cat, but it was in our current group of cats, who are all negative so far. They need to be tested again (since our vet adviced us to do that in a couple of months, to make a 100% sure). 2010/12/8 Gloria B. Lane > Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start a > process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking since you > once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand that virus is > very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body. > > Gloria > > > > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. >> She >> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week >> later. >> She was suffering! >> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the >> same >> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with >> Oreo for almost a year! >> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. >> >> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. >> Found >> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take >> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. >> He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. >> My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him >> tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into >> the group in about 2 weeks. >> Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance >> that >> there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! >> >> We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears >> to >> be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. >> >> Thanks for your thoughts! >> >> Peggy >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have > false results. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
For now the kitten is seperated from all the others. Only if kitten is negative on the test and vaccinated, we will integrate after 2 weeks (if we decide to keep him). I clean litter boxes every day and they all have their own food bowl. They get fed twice a day. I can't leave food out because of some will keep eating. Thanks on your input! :-) 2010/12/8 Joslin Potter > I would call your vet, but i don't see why it would be a problem, just > remember > kittens immune systems are not as strong as your older cats, make sure you > are > keeping the water dishes, litter boxes and such clean... congrats on your > new > addition! > > > > > > From: Peggy Verdonck > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 11:52:03 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have false results. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start a process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking since you once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand that virus is very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
I would call your vet, but i don't see why it would be a problem, just remember kittens immune systems are not as strong as your older cats, make sure you are keeping the water dishes, litter boxes and such clean... congrats on your new addition! From: Peggy Verdonck To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 11:52:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
