Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Check with another vet just to make sure yours is up to date. On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Lynne wrote: Sue, I was all set to start BooBoo on Interferon this week but now his vet says it will do him no good at this stage, so maybe Buzz would be started on it if his blood work shows any kind of deficiency or the beginning of anemia. In Buzz's case I would just have his blood work done maybe every 3 to 6 months and as long as it's ok he probably doesn't need to be on anything like Interferon or Immunoregulin. I think if Buzz is on a really good diet that will probably be the best thing for him right now. I finally found a food our guy loves. It's Recovery. I think it has been mentioned on the list. The main ingredient is chicken liver, fish oil and a lot of vitamins and minerals. I honestly think that's what's keeping him going. I so sympathize with how you are feeling. I've stopped reading and am only going on the information I see on this list from people who are familiar with these cats. I too look at my little guy and can't believe this is happening. I swear I'm still in denial. To look at him you would think he is the most beautiful healthy cat alive. I'm tellin you it's taking its toll on me. I am so bloody tired anymore, just worrying about him. On the other hand the 19 year old healthy guy seems to have new life injected into him. He's all mouthy and affectionate lately. Lynne - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise It's a good thing that he's active and playful. I personally would not start immunoregulin until there was reason to. My positive cat is on nothing now, besides premium food and lysine. tonya Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have a lready learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sue, I was all set to start BooBoo on Interferon this week but now his vet says it will do him no good at this stage, so maybe Buzz would be started on it if his blood work shows any kind of deficiency or the beginning of anemia. In Buzz's case I would just have his blood work done maybe every 3 to 6 months and as long as it's ok he probably doesn't need to be on anything like Interferon or Immunoregulin. I think if Buzz is on a really good diet that will probably be the best thing for him right now. I finally found a food our guy loves. It's Recovery. I think it has been mentioned on the list. The main ingredient is chicken liver, fish oil and a lot of vitamins and minerals. I honestly think that's what's keeping him going. I so sympathize with how you are feeling. I've stopped reading and am only going on the information I see on this list from people who are familiar with these cats. I too look at my little guy and can't believe this is happening. I swear I'm still in denial. To look at him you would think he is the most beautiful healthy cat alive. I'm tellin you it's taking its toll on me. I am so bloody tired anymore, just worrying about him. On the other hand the 19 year old healthy guy seems to have new life injected into him. He's all mouthy and affectionate lately. Lynne - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise It's a good thing that he's active and playful. I personally would not start immunoregulin until there was reason to. My positive cat is on nothing now, besides premium food and lysine. tonya Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have a lready learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
My Mandy is also "on" nothing but Wellness food and lysine. My vet's opinion is not to start immunoregulin until there is an actually reason (symptom) to do so. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise It's a good thing that he's active and playful. I personally would not start immunoregulin until there was reason to. My positive cat is on nothing now, besides premium food and lysine. tonya Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
It's a good thing that he's active and playful. I personally would not start immunoregulin until there was reason to. My positive cat is on nothing now, besides premium food and lysine. tonya Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Wendy, if it isn't already too late with the anemia he has I will do everything I can to get a vet to either find this stuff for me or interferon, which may be a little easier to get hold of here. Lynne - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > Lynne, > > The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known in the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ) injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks! My Cricket got a few IV injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so progressed. If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since Cricket was so fractious and did not do well with needles. But if Boo Boo does IV's easily, I would go with that. > > :) > Wendy > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ > > > - Original Message > From: cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. > Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be > given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. > It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many > shots they would fix up for me. I think it was > anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 > dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have > never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. > I hope this will help. > > Cindy Reasoner > > --- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Cindy, > > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing > > taking him in to the vet > > several times a week and them putting an IV into his > > arm. I was even > > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do > > it. Obviously I know > > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what > > they do - if my vet even > > does it. I have had to give cats things before > > subq, so that would work > > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's > > fevers? > > Sue > > - Original Message - > > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix > > the > > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. > > At > > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the > > shots > > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. > > Just > > > thought I would let you know what my experience > > with > > > it has been. > > > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, > > upset > > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that > > commercial). > > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco > > won't > > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she > > is > > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball > > the > > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. > > As > > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. > > I > > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > > >> kitchen now for notes. > > >> L > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: Lynne > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > > >> exercise > > >> > > >> > > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted > > about > > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood > > work > > >> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > > >> cough
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Lynne, The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known in the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ) injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks! My Cricket got a few IV injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so progressed. If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since Cricket was so fractious and did not do well with needles. But if Boo Boo does IV's easily, I would go with that. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cindy, > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing > taking him in to the vet > several times a week and them putting an IV into his > arm. I was even > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do > it. Obviously I know > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what > they do - if my vet even > does it. I have had to give cats things before > subq, so that would work > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's > fevers? > Sue > - Original Message - > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix > the > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. > At > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the > shots > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. > Just > > thought I would let you know what my experience > with > > it has been. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, > upset > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that > commercial). > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco > won't > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she > is > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball > the > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. > As > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. > I > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > >> kitchen now for notes. > >> L > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Lynne > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted > about > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood > work > >> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > >> coughing. I just don't know how none of this > >> concerned the previous owners. He's also > becoming a > >> ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many > different > >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks > his > >> nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat > likes > >> it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all > just > >> such a drain on one. > >> > >> Lynne > >>- Original Message - > >>From: Sue & Frank Koren > >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > >>Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >>Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to > run > >> ar
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cindy, > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing > taking him in to the vet > several times a week and them putting an IV into his > arm. I was even > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do > it. Obviously I know > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what > they do - if my vet even > does it. I have had to give cats things before > subq, so that would work > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's > fevers? > Sue > - Original Message - > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix > the > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. > At > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the > shots > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. > Just > > thought I would let you know what my experience > with > > it has been. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, > upset > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that > commercial). > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco > won't > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she > is > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball > the > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. > As > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. > I > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > >> kitchen now for notes. > >> L > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Lynne > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted > about > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood > work > >> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > >> coughing. I just don't know how none of this > >> concerned the previous owners. He's also > becoming a > >> ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many > different > >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks > his > >> nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat > likes > >> it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all > just > >> such a drain on one. > >> > >> Lynne > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Sue & Frank Koren > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to > run > >> around and play like a maniac - after all he is > only > >> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He > >> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a > >> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but > >> maybe that is something that is normal for any > cat. > >> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things > >> differently with him. Right now I have to decide > >> what will help him most and what I can afford. I > >> have already switched him to an all canned > Wellness > >> diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty > expensive. > >> I also have two boys in college that I have to > think > >> of also. > >> Do you know how many cats actually ever end > up > >> eventually testing negative with this? I guess &
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Hi Lynne It looks like Revival will ship ot of the US. You would have to call them for the rate. They also ship this item chilled. I found a site in canada that also carried the horse version, same stuff juts larger vial. I feell you should be able to get the smaller vial in Canada. It is listed as Equistim http://www.cdmv.com/CDMVhtml/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=2488 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ If you go subq I found insulin syringes work just fine. Junior hardly knows I gave him a shot. Sally Davis On Feb 11, 2008 8:16 PM, Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to > me buying it online. I don't even know if it is readily available over here > (Canada). But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then > through the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you > pay. For my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was > going to cost a small fortune because they were going to make it up for me. > I work across the hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and > they made the prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost. The Vet > (not the same one as BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the > prescription be called into the pharmacy but I don't really care. It's > worked for Lennie and saved me some bucks. > > Lynne > > - Original Message - > *From:* Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM > *Subject:* Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his > gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the > hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing > the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the > macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from > Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping. > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Cindy, > > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet > > several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even > > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know > > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet > > even > > does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work > > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? > > Sue > > - Original Message - > > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the > > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At > > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots > > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just > > > thought I would let you know what my experience with > > > it has been. > > > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset > > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). > > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't > > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is > > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the > > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. As > > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I > > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > > >> kitchen now for notes. > > >> L > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: Lynne > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > > >> exercise > > >> > > >> > > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about > > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood work > > >> and it's worse than
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to me
buying it online. I don't even know if it is readily available over here
(Canada). But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then through
the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you pay. For
my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was going to cost a
small fortune because they were going to make it up for me. I work across the
hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and they made the
prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost. The Vet (not the same one as
BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the prescription be called
into the pharmacy but I don't really care. It's worked for Lennie and saved me
some bucks.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sally Davis
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his
gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the
hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing the
cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the
macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from
Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping.
On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cindy,
Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet
several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even
thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know
nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even
does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work
out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers?
Sue
- Original Message -
From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
>I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a
> problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I
> would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
> shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At
> first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots
> less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just
> thought I would let you know what my experience with
> it has been.
>
> Cindy Reasoner
>
>
> --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
>> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
>> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
>> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
>> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
>> next day and she is back on track eating again. As
>> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
>> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
>> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
>> kitchen now for notes.
>> L
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Lynne
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
>> exercise
>>
>>
>> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about
>> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the
>> positive test at first and asked for more blood work
>> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little
>> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
>> coughing. I just don't know how none of this
>> concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a
>> ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different
>> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his
>> nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes
>> it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just
>> such a drain on one.
>>
>> Lynne
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sue & Frank Koren
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
>> exercise
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run
>> around and play like a maniac - after all he is only
>> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kit
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I know Sue. I find myself thinking about him far too much, at work, at home,
anywhere. I keep reading and reading looking for some kind of miracle cure
which I know isn't there. My husband and I have always been very attached to
our pets, even the flippin fish in the pond. This cat is different though. He
was destined to be ours. Like I've said before, he came to our house every day
last summer, early in the morning and stayed all day near the trailer in our
driveway. When the weather started getting nasty, I would bring him in and
then he'd go home at dark. It would break my heart to see him leave every
night. We were basically blackmailed into paying 300 bucks for him when the
asking price was 150 but they knew how much we loved him and would do anything
to have him. Now that we finally get our wish, we find out he may not be
around all that long. Last night he came down stairs for a walk through the
house and this morning before I left for work he came down again into the
kitchen. These are real steps forward for him. He just wants to hang around
upstairs on our bed and mostly sleep. He's a real talker though when we go up
to see him which is about every 10 minutes. He ate today, quite a lot
actually. I think we've bought every kind of cat food on the market and at
this point, I don't even care if it is the best for him. I just want him to
eat. This stuff is fancy feast salmon feast. It has salmon as it's main
ingredient and salmon broth. Also has a lot of other crap in it too but until
I can find something that is really good for him and he'll eat it, this will
have to do. He is kind of chubby anyway so I guess that's an ok thing. We
tried giving him lean beef, cooked kind of rare yesterday and he ate a couple
bites of that too.
The Buzzes, Charlies and BooBoos of this world certainly are a challenge but I
have to believe in the long run it is all very worth it and may even make us
better people.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sue & Frank Koren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: ]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Lynn - You said it so well when you say it is a drain on one. I keep
watching Buzz and wondering if what he is doing is OK. There are so many
things that I would not have thought twice about if the other cats were doing
them, but I am worrying about every little thing that Buzz does that seems
unusual.
Charlie, one of my other cats has asthma. He stretches his neck out close
to the floor and makes coughing sounds like he is going to bring up a hair ball
but nothing ever happens. He is on prednisone (not sure if that is spelled
right) and it seems to help him.
BooBoo is a lucky little cat to have finally found a place with people who
love him.
Sue
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: [PHISH]Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing.
I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and
it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic
about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the
previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried
many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up.
Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted.
It is all just such a drain on one.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sue & Frank Koren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a
maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He
seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been
playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because
of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have
to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already
switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty
expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing
negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He
tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when
he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the
blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him
again. Meanwhile I will spoil hi
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping. On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cindy, > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet > several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even > does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? > Sue > - Original Message - > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just > > thought I would let you know what my experience with > > it has been. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. As > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > >> kitchen now for notes. > >> L > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Lynne > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood work > >> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > >> coughing. I just don't know how none of this > >> concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a > >> ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different > >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his > >> nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes > >> it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just > >> such a drain on one. > >> > >> Lynne > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Sue & Frank Koren > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run > >> around and play like a maniac - after all he is only > >> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He > >> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a > >> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but > >> maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. > >> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things > >> differently with him. Right now I have to decide > >> what will help him most and what I can afford. I > >> have already switched him to an all canned Wellness > >> diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. > >> I also have two boys in college that I have to think > >> of also. > >> Do you know how many cats actually ever end up > >> eventually testing negative with this? I guess > >> there is a part of me that is still in denial. He > >> tested negative when my brother first rescued him, > >> then he tested positive when he had the in-office > &g
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue & Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee
]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Lynn - You said it so well when you say it is a drain on one. I keep watching
Buzz and wondering if what he is doing is OK. There are so many things that I
would not have thought twice about if the other cats were doing them, but I am
worrying about every little thing that Buzz does that seems unusual.
Charlie, one of my other cats has asthma. He stretches his neck out close to
the floor and makes coughing sounds like he is going to bring up a hair ball
but nothing ever happens. He is on prednisone (not sure if that is spelled
right) and it seems to help him.
BooBoo is a lucky little cat to have finally found a place with people who love
him.
Sue
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: [PHISH]Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I
didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and
it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic
about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the
previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried
many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up.
Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted.
It is all just such a drain on one.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sue & Frank Koren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a
maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He
seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been
playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because
of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have
to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already
switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty
expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative
with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested
negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had
the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood
test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again.
Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in
one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out
the window from his chair.
Sue
- Original Message -
From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he
handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now
you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better
educated.
And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only
got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.
And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was
out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just
took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and
not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have
been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even
meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy
to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help
with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth
of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a
difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I
can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I
did, then my guilt is lessened.
You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what
is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all
you can for him early on.
Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he
wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it.
It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel
like one/doesn't know he is one
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset > stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). > Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't > eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is > trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the > next day and she is back on track eating again. As > Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I > quickly forget which days things happen unless I > make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > kitchen now for notes. > L > > - Original Message - > From: Lynne > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about > our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > positive test at first and asked for more blood work > and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > coughing. I just don't know how none of this > concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a > ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different > can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his > nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes > it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just > such a drain on one. > > Lynne > - Original Message - > From: Sue & Frank Koren > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run > around and play like a maniac - after all he is only > 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He > seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a > little raspy when he has been playing hard, but > maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. > Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things > differently with him. Right now I have to decide > what will help him most and what I can afford. I > have already switched him to an all canned Wellness > diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. > I also have two boys in college that I have to think > of also. > Do you know how many cats actually ever end up > eventually testing negative with this? I guess > there is a part of me that is still in denial. He > tested negative when my brother first rescued him, > then he tested positive when he had the in-office > test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him > the blood test which was also positive. I think > April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I > will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has > to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy > today that there isn't even a good view out the > window from his chair. > Sue > - Original Message - > From: Caroline Kaufmann > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM > Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > I don't know about the IR, but as far as the > vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so > there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. > Now you know better tho and can better protect him > in the future by being better educated. > > And you are very to lucky to have found this > site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was > in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. > And I felt horrible when I realized all the > knowledge and information that was out there on the > internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. > I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted > and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, > his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized > I could have been more proactive with things- like > no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to > ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't > have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the > time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with > Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing > that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself > to miss out o
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I
sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco
won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of.
I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again.
As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days
things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen
now for notes.
L
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I
didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and
it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic
about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the
previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried
many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up.
Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted.
It is all just such a drain on one.
Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sue & Frank Koren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a
maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He
seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been
playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because
of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have
to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already
switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty
expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative
with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested
negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had
the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood
test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again.
Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in
one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out
the window from his chair.
Sue
- Original Message -
From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he
handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now
you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better
educated.
And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only
got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.
And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was
out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just
took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and
not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have
been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even
meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy
to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help
with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth
of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a
difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I
can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I
did, then my guilt is lessened.
You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what
is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all
you can for him early on.
Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he
wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it.
It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel
like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of
Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating
him like an invalid because at that point (until
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue & Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have
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Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all th
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Absolutely - hope it all works out. In my experience, with several young cats, that's been the situation. But only for the young ones less than 3 years old. Some of my older FELV cats do well. Think I've lost 5 or 6, and presently have 3, all over 3 years old. My point is that you need to start treating those young ones early, when they appear healthy and be absolutely consistent - not wait till they show symptoms. There's a tendency to wait, and you really need to start supporting them early... The ones I've had regularly on interferon have done well, but did die when they were about 2.5 years old, and when at the same time, for one reason or another (vacation, pet sitter, etc) they didn't get regular interferon or other appropriate support . My 3 older ones now don't get any extra supplements, and have done great (2 are 10 years, 1 is 4 years). They are in a very stable environment, get wet good cat food daily, and I don't know, just do great. Best of luck, Gloria On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Lance wrote: I think the better way to look at is: the sooner the better. Some positive cats get treated when they're extremely symptomatic and can recover from problems like nasty URIs or GI troubles. We've seen it here. But, it's better not to wait, and I think that this is one place where some vets do positive cats and their owners a real disservice. As some of you may remember, the vet that tested Ember and found her to be positive just suggested that we drop in every six months instead of every year. She said *nothing* about interferon, supplements, good food, low stress environments, etc. Not helpful! :( I've considered writing her a letter to relate my experiences. Lance On Feb 9, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. I'm hoping you're wrong Gloria. We've managed to get rid of a lot of symptoms through homeopathy, supplements, quality food and excessive TLC. I couldn't bare to think it is too late. Jane On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Gloria Lane wrote: I would think you generally start now, before symptoms. When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I think the better way to look at is: the sooner the better. Some positive cats get treated when they're extremely symptomatic and can recover from problems like nasty URIs or GI troubles. We've seen it here. But, it's better not to wait, and I think that this is one place where some vets do positive cats and their owners a real disservice. As some of you may remember, the vet that tested Ember and found her to be positive just suggested that we drop in every six months instead of every year. She said *nothing* about interferon, supplements, good food, low stress environments, etc. Not helpful! :( I've considered writing her a letter to relate my experiences. Lance On Feb 9, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. I'm hoping you're wrong Gloria. We've managed to get rid of a lot of symptoms through homeopathy, supplements, quality food and excessive TLC. I couldn't bare to think it is too late. Jane On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Gloria Lane wrote: I would think you generally start now, before symptoms. When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
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When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. I'm hoping you're wrong Gloria. We've managed to get rid of a lot of symptoms through homeopathy, supplements, quality food and excessive TLC. I couldn't bare to think it is too late. Jane On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Gloria Lane wrote: I would think you generally start now, before symptoms. When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I would think you generally start now, before symptoms. When they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Gloria On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
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I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Immuno-Regullin and exerciseDate: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise. _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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Hi As soon as Junior and Tiny tested positive and I was able to set up the injcetions at the vet's office both received it. Tiny was asymptomatic and Junior had been through a lot, including anemia, uvetis, a URI, and recurring fevers. Junior is still with me over a year later. I may put him back on it as a monthly subQ injection. Right now I am just feeding him as healthy as I can. Tiny died a month and a half after DX. He never really seemed sick and it is likely the sudden death was unrelated to the FELV. I would go ahead and give your kitty the IR now. Sally On Feb 8, 2008 9:32 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no > symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He > seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do > the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much > new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information > that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning > himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. > Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He > chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. > Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? > I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so > glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems > like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the > last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. > Thank you everybody for all your advise. > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
