Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-15 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm so glad your Dixie is doing well!!  I haven't read about it, but  
in my experience when I have gotten young FELV cats/kittens, they tend  
to decline and die at age 2.5 to 3 yrs old.  If I get another one that  
young, I intend to put it on daily interferon and see if we can make  
it thru that stage!  I do know someone who has had their FELV cat thru  
the age of 3 - has had her on daily interferon.  Kitty does great, is  
probably 5 or  6 now...?


I have one FEV cat now that's just made it past 3 - name is BB.  I  
acquired him recently,  when he was about 4. He's healthy and happy.
I have two others that are over 10, but that's a different story :)


I don't know what it is about that age - whether it's the type of FELV  
that they have or what.


Gloria



On Nov 15, 2007, at 1:26 AM, Marylyn wrote:

I've heard several people refer to 3 as the magic age.  Exactly what  
do you mean?  I am unsure of Dixie's age but she has been with me  
for almost 3 years now and is as healthy as she can be most of the  
time.  Just normal minor problems except for the teeth and that  
seems to be ok now.







 If you have men who  
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of  
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise  
with their fellow man.
   
St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Gloria Lane
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Interferon Question

Hi Gary,

Never heard of that for interferon alpha.  LIke Lance said, maybe  
it's for VO.


I can't see the harm for a diabetic cat.  But my experience with  
FELV cats is that they can look so great, then turn symptomatic, and  
in my experience theres not much that can be done when they're  
symptomatic, at least for the young ones that I've had.  So I'd  
probably try it out.  I remember when I got Calawalla Banana and she  
was about 6 months to a year.  She looked so healthy and hearty.   
Then at 2.5 yr she developed lymphoma and nothing we did would touch  
it.  I'd wished I'd had her on interferon prior to her being  
symptomatic.


(The interferon alpha protocol I use is a daily dose - not the on  
and off.)


On the other hand, I now have 2 FELV cats that are over 10, and 1  
that's 4-5. Go figure.  They were over the magic age of 3 when I got  
them, so it's nothing I've done that's kept them going...


Good luck,

Gloria



On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:26 PM, gary wrote:

First time I've ever heard of that protocol.  Mostly I've heard 7  
days on and seven days off because they can develop an immunity to  
the human interferon alpha.


Can't see why it would harm a diabetic cat. However, that's just a  
guess on my part.


Gary
- Original Message -
From: Belinda Sauro
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Interferon Question

   Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about  
this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the  
answer, would you mind asking the group? I followed the  
prophylactic regimen recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+  
cats, which is every day for five days in three runs starting the  
1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in studies seems to double  
cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to Patches  
this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and  
am wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I  
have say anything about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you  
know? Also, I can't find anything on whether it is ok to give to  
diabetic cats. Any idea?







Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread Marylyn
I give Dixie oral interferon every other day.  I don't know what to tell you 
about what you are giving.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda Sauro 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: Interferon Question


 Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the answer, 
would you mind asking the group? I followed the prophylactic regimen 
recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+ cats, which is every day for five 
days in three runs starting the 1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in 
studies seems to double cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to 
Patches this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and am 
wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I have say anything 
about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you know? Also, I can't find anything 
on whether it is ok to give to diabetic cats. Any idea?


-- 

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Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread gary
First time I've ever heard of that protocol.  Mostly I've heard 7 days on and 
seven days off because they can develop an immunity to the human interferon 
alpha.

Can't see why it would harm a diabetic cat. However, that's just a guess on my 
part.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda Sauro 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: Interferon Question


 Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the answer, 
would you mind asking the group? I followed the prophylactic regimen 
recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+ cats, which is every day for five 
days in three runs starting the 1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in 
studies seems to double cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to 
Patches this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and am 
wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I have say anything 
about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you know? Also, I can't find anything 
on whether it is ok to give to diabetic cats. Any idea?

Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread Lance
I believe this person is referring to feline recombinant interferon.  
That looks like the protocol that is recommended for treating FeLV+  
with Virbagen Omega. I'm wrestling with similar concerns, but we  
haven't even tried the stuff yet. Ember is in good shape right now,  
and I worry that giving her the VO might rock the boat. I'll have to  
figure it out in the next few months, as it expires in June or July, I  
think.


*WARNING THIS IS NOT A VET'S OPINION!!!*

I think I'd hold off on giving the stuff until at least a year from  
the prior dose (ie February). Were I in this person's shoes, I'd  
probably just try to sell the VO to someone who needs it for a  
symptomatic FeLV+ kitty. Sadly, we don't know enough about VO and how  
well it treats the virus.


*WARNING THIS WAS NOT A VET'S OPINION!!!*

I really need to get in touch with a European vet to see what they're  
doing over there. Very few folks in the States seem to have experience  
with VO.


Hopefully, something in my response was at least vaguely helpful.


Lance

On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

   Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about  
this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the  
answer, would you mind asking the group? I followed the  
prophylactic regimen recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+  
cats, which is every day for five days in three runs starting the  
1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in studies seems to double  
cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to Patches  
this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and  
am wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I  
have say anything about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you  
know? Also, I can't find anything on whether it is ok to give to  
diabetic cats. Any idea?


--

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Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread Jane Lyons

Hi
I know that Hideyo (who was on this list) has used VO successfully.  
There are people here who are in touch with her. Maybe she would be

willing to post her experience with it.

Jane
ps.
I haven't used VO. With the exception of Giardia, I have been able to  
get rid of all of the many FeLK symptoms we were dealt. I cannot believe
I now have a cat who has a great appetite and will eat several cans  
of Petguard (the Whole Foods brand) a day. We had gotten rid of the
Giardia, but the diarrhea returned, so we have tried a stronger  
remedy. Fingers are tightly crossed as I type this, but MeMe is  
leading an almost

normal, happy life.

I believe this person is referring to feline recombinant  
interferon. That looks like the protocol that is recommended for  
treating FeLV+ with Virbagen Omega. I'm wrestling with similar  
concerns, but we haven't even tried the stuff yet. Ember is in good  
shape right now, and I worry that giving her the VO might rock the  
boat. I'll have to figure it out in the next few months, as it  
expires in June or July, I think.


*WARNING THIS IS NOT A VET'S OPINION!!!*

I think I'd hold off on giving the stuff until at least a year from  
the prior dose (ie February). Were I in this person's shoes, I'd  
probably just try to sell the VO to someone who needs it for a  
symptomatic FeLV+ kitty. Sadly, we don't know enough about VO and  
how well it treats the virus.


*WARNING THIS WAS NOT A VET'S OPINION!!!*

I really need to get in touch with a European vet to see what  
they're doing over there. Very few folks in the States seem to have  
experience with VO.


Hopefully, something in my response was at least vaguely helpful.


Lance

On Nov 14, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

   Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about  
this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the  
answer, would you mind asking the group? I followed the  
prophylactic regimen recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv 
+ cats, which is every day for five days in three runs starting  
the 1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in studies seems to  
double cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to  
Patches this past February. I have another batch of feline  
interferon and am wondering when to give it to her again. None of  
the studies I have say anything about repeating it, or when to do  
so. Do you know? Also, I can't find anything on whether it is ok  
to give to diabetic cats. Any idea?


--

Belinda
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Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread Gloria Lane

Hi Gary,

Never heard of that for interferon alpha.  LIke Lance said, maybe it's  
for VO.


I can't see the harm for a diabetic cat.  But my experience with FELV  
cats is that they can look so great, then turn symptomatic, and in my  
experience theres not much that can be done when they're symptomatic,  
at least for the young ones that I've had.  So I'd probably try it  
out.  I remember when I got Calawalla Banana and she was about 6  
months to a year.  She looked so healthy and hearty.  Then at 2.5 yr  
she developed lymphoma and nothing we did would touch it.  I'd wished  
I'd had her on interferon prior to her being symptomatic.


(The interferon alpha protocol I use is a daily dose - not the on and  
off.)


On the other hand, I now have 2 FELV cats that are over 10, and 1  
that's 4-5. Go figure.  They were over the magic age of 3 when I got  
them, so it's nothing I've done that's kept them going...


Good luck,

Gloria



On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:26 PM, gary wrote:

First time I've ever heard of that protocol.  Mostly I've heard 7  
days on and seven days off because they can develop an immunity to  
the human interferon alpha.


Can't see why it would harm a diabetic cat. However, that's just a  
guess on my part.


Gary
- Original Message -
From: Belinda Sauro
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Interferon Question

   Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about  
this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the  
answer, would you mind asking the group? I followed the  
prophylactic regimen recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+  
cats, which is every day for five days in three runs starting the  
1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in studies seems to double  
cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to Patches  
this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and  
am wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I  
have say anything about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you  
know? Also, I can't find anything on whether it is ok to give to  
diabetic cats. Any idea?




Re: Interferon Question

2007-11-14 Thread Marylyn
I've heard several people refer to 3 as the magic age.  Exactly what do you 
mean?  I am unsure of Dixie's age but she has been with me for almost 3 years 
now and is as healthy as she can be most of the time.  Just normal minor 
problems except for the teeth and that seems to be ok now.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gloria Lane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Interferon Question


  Hi Gary,


  Never heard of that for interferon alpha.  LIke Lance said, maybe it's for VO.


  I can't see the harm for a diabetic cat.  But my experience with FELV cats is 
that they can look so great, then turn symptomatic, and in my experience theres 
not much that can be done when they're symptomatic, at least for the young ones 
that I've had.  So I'd probably try it out.  I remember when I got Calawalla 
Banana and she was about 6 months to a year.  She looked so healthy and hearty. 
 Then at 2.5 yr she developed lymphoma and nothing we did would touch it.  I'd 
wished I'd had her on interferon prior to her being symptomatic.


  (The interferon alpha protocol I use is a daily dose - not the on and off.)


  On the other hand, I now have 2 FELV cats that are over 10, and 1 that's 4-5. 
Go figure.  They were over the magic age of 3 when I got them, so it's nothing 
I've done that's kept them going...


  Good luck,


  Gloria






  On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:26 PM, gary wrote:


First time I've ever heard of that protocol.  Mostly I've heard 7 days on 
and seven days off because they can develop an immunity to the human interferon 
alpha.

Can't see why it would harm a diabetic cat. However, that's just a guess on 
my part.

Gary
  - Original Message -
  From: Belinda Sauro
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: Interferon Question


 Got this from a friend, anyone know or heard anything about this??


   I have a feline interferon question.  If you don't know the answer, 
would you mind asking the group? I followed the prophylactic regimen 
recommended in studies for asymptomatic felv+ cats, which is every day for five 
days in three runs starting the 1st, 14th, and 60th days. This regimen in 
studies seems to double cats' chances of being alive a year later. I gave it to 
Patches this past February. I have another batch of feline interferon and am 
wondering when to give it to her again. None of the studies I have say anything 
about repeating it, or when to do so. Do you know? Also, I can't find anything 
on whether it is ok to give to diabetic cats. Any idea?



Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-16 Thread catatonya
I think you can go off now.  Congratulations on your negative results!!
  t

Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Everyone, 
   
  I don't post much but have a serious question re Interferon.  Kitty tested 
positive for FeLV/FIV at nine months old.  She has had daily Interferon for the 
past 3+ months.  Now that she has tested negative for both diseases, what 
experience has anyone else had and vet recommendations for tapering off the 
IFN?  
  I thought once kitties were FIV+ that disease did not disappear but the FeLV+ 
sometimes is fought off (30%).  
  This sweet girl can be adopted out once she is off the interferon.  
   
  Del
   
  In memory of Effie 2001-2005



Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread Kelly L

At 05:50 PM 12/15/2006, you wrote:


That is so wonderful..
Kelly



Hi Everyone,

I don't post much but have a serious question re Interferon.  Kitty 
tested positive for FeLV/FIV at nine months old.  She has had daily 
Interferon for the past 3+ months.  Now that she has tested negative 
for both diseases, what experience has anyone else had and vet 
recommendations for tapering off the IFN?
I thought once kitties were FIV+ that disease did not disappear but 
the FeLV+ sometimes is fought off (30%).

This sweet girl can be adopted out once she is off the interferon.

Del

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Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread Lernermichelle
 
That's great! I never heard of a cat throwing FIV, but I have heard of high  
rates of false positives on FIV tests. Was it confirmed by an IFA or DNA test? 
 If it was an in-house snap test, I would guess she was never actually 
positive  and the test result was wrong. Either way, good news! knock on wood!  
 :)
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 12/15/2006 8:59:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Everyone, 

I don't post much but have a serious question  re Interferon.  Kitty tested 
positive for FeLV/FIV at nine months  old.  She has had daily Interferon for 
the past 3+ months.  Now that  she has tested negative for both diseases, what 
experience has anyone else had  and vet recommendations for tapering off the 
IFN?  
I thought once  kitties were FIV+ that disease did not disappear but the 
FeLV+ sometimes is  fought off (30%).  
This sweet girl can be adopted out once she is off  the interferon.  

Del


 


Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread gblane
Kittens, of course, can show a positive result for a while after nursing a 
positive mama.  But then at some point they throw off the antibodies.  I've 
thought that FIV+ kittens could go negative, as FELV+ kittens can.  

Interesting - it's really good to hear news like this.

Gloria



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 That's great! I never heard of a cat throwing FIV, but I have heard of high 
 rates of false positives on FIV tests. Was it confirmed by an IFA or DNA 
 test? 
 If it was an in-house snap test, I would guess she was never actually 
 positive 
 and the test result was wrong. Either way, good news! knock on wood!nbsp; 
 
 nbsp;
 Michelle
 nbsp;
 In a message dated 12/15/2006 8:59:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi 
   Everyone, nbsp;I don't post much but have a serious question 
   re Interferon.nbsp; Kitty tested positive for FeLV/FIV at nine months 
   old.nbsp; She has had daily Interferon for the past 3+ months.nbsp; Now 
 that 
   she has tested negative for both diseases, what experience has anyone else 
 had 
   and vet recommendations for tapering off the IFN?nbsp; I thought once 
   kitties were FIV+ that disease did not disappear but the FeLV+ sometimes is 
   fought off (30%).nbsp; This sweet girl can be adopted out once she is off 
   the interferon.nbsp; nbsp;Del
 
 nbsp;









Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread gblane
Kittens, of course, can show a positive result for a while after nursing a 
positive mama.  But then at some point they throw off the antibodies.  I've 
thought that FIV+ kittens could go negative, as FELV+ kittens can.  

Interesting - it's really good to hear news like this.

Gloria



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 That's great! I never heard of a cat throwing FIV, but I have heard of high 
 rates of false positives on FIV tests. Was it confirmed by an IFA or DNA 
 test? 
 If it was an in-house snap test, I would guess she was never actually 
 positive 
 and the test result was wrong. Either way, good news! knock on wood!nbsp; 
 
 nbsp;
 Michelle
 nbsp;
 In a message dated 12/15/2006 8:59:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi 
   Everyone, nbsp;I don't post much but have a serious question 
   re Interferon.nbsp; Kitty tested positive for FeLV/FIV at nine months 
   old.nbsp; She has had daily Interferon for the past 3+ months.nbsp; Now 
 that 
   she has tested negative for both diseases, what experience has anyone else 
 had 
   and vet recommendations for tapering off the IFN?nbsp; I thought once 
   kitties were FIV+ that disease did not disappear but the FeLV+ sometimes is 
   fought off (30%).nbsp; This sweet girl can be adopted out once she is off 
   the interferon.nbsp; nbsp;Del
 
 nbsp;









Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
It's possible she was never positive to begin with. Did you test more than
once, and using two different methods? Regardless, I may consider doing the
week on and week off schedule for a while, slowing stretching out the off
days by reducing the on days over a period of months. Of course, there's no
reason to take her off of it at all, there's no HARM in giving it long term
that I am aware of. It's possible her natural immunity finally kicked in now
that she is an adult.

Phaewryn

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Re: Interferon question - FeLV+/FIV+ = now negative

2006-12-15 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
yes, FIV antibodies can be passed along in the milk, but she said her cat tested
positive at 9 MONTHS, any momma cat that would let a kitten nurse THAT long is a
brave and devoted soul, LOL! I think most maternal antibodies wear off by 6 
months of
age (or a couple of months after the kitten last nursed).

Phaewryn

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