Re: [Finale] Ego sum necrosone

2005-02-01 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Can one imagine the world needing a pejorative term for someone who still has the temerity to profess pleasure upon hearing Bach or Beethoven? Paint me ein Alter Mann. Dean Well there may not be a pejorative term for someone who likes the music of his/her own times,

Re: [Finale] OT: Upgrading OS's (was TAN: More iKey)

2005-02-01 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] But I think most people are too willing to believe that upgrades are magic that can fix every problem they have, when, in reality, they too often just magnify existing problems. I think, also, that people are too willing to believe that upgrades fix all sorts of

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-01 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: David's thought that we might be in the twilight of our art form, made me think of the Fin du sicle phenomenon. Is the recent end of the 20th Century abnormal, compared to the previous, say, four centuries? Was there any sense of culmination and delineation in any of

OT: Future of the arts [was: Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff]

2005-02-01 Thread dhbailey
Lon Price wrote: [snip] I have about 40 woodwind students, and it seems that very few of them have much enthusiasm for what they're doing. I'm constantly trying to think up ways to get them interested enough to practice once in a while. And if one of them shows real promise, what then? I

Re: [Finale] OT Buying sheet music

2005-02-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 1/31/2005 04:47 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Kinda embarrassing question but I'd appreciate any recommendation what I should be looking for and if possible to find a good place to purchase online. I have found JWPepper a good online site. And you can establish an account and they will just bill

[Finale] From the QuicKeys Feb newsletter:

2005-02-01 Thread Simon Troup
I found this in the QuicKeys February newsletter --- 8 === =- COOL CUSTOMER === How are

[Finale] Re: OT: Future of the arts

2005-02-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/1/2005 06:05 AM, dhbailey wrote: I don't think we're in the twilight of our art form at all -- I think we might be facing a more realistic place of the arts in a more egalitarian society than that of past centuries where the nobility and the higher levels of the clergy (bishops on up to

Re: [Finale] OT Buying sheet music

2005-02-01 Thread Cecil Rigby
If you want, you can avoid what a well-known composer friend of mine calls being gouged by music stores and cheated by publishers who deal mostly in tuneful crap by doing business with independent publishers and distributors. Try Theodore Presser, Handlo Music, Laurendale Associates, Dantalian,

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The good, the bad, and the difference?

2005-02-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
(Continued) At 11:16 AM 1/31/05 -0800, you wrote: Sibelius, whom you related to us died before you were born. I was seven months old when Sibelius died. It wasn't Sibelius. I just wanted it that way, I think. :) It was Bartok and Webern who died a few years before, and sadly, Richard Strauss

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-02-01 Thread Allen Fisher
The way I get by is I press cmd-opt with my thumb and hit the accent key with my index finger, making it very similar to the 2k3 way of doing things. If you have a suggestion for a better keystroke, send it in. On 1/31/05 1:55 PM, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Andrew Stiller

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-02-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Yeah, I really don't have any problem with that keystroke. It needed to be similar to the original shortcut, which was not available because that key combo is reserved by the OS. The good part is that Finale now has a shortcut for cycling through all open windows, which was badly needed.

[Finale] Quarter-tone playback

2005-02-01 Thread Taris L Flashpaw
I've followed the OLD on creating quarter-tone accidentals, but now I need to tap the list's collective wisdom on making quarter-tones playback. I figure I'll need to use pitch bend to do it, but for that I'd need to know how big to bend for a semitone (then divide by 2 for the quarter-tone).

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-02-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am on a German keyboard, so that won't work. Plus I need the shift key as well. Keyboard shortcut support in FinMac on a German keyboard is actually terrible! I don't have any specific keystroke which I prefer, however, my suggestion is to make Finale's keystrokes completely

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-02-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I quite agree, but more to the point, this has got nothing to do with OS X (other than that OS X has more standardized keyboard shortcuts, which is in fact a very good thing!). Johannes Darcy James Argue wrote: Yeah, I really don't have any problem with that keystroke. It needed to be similar

Re: [Finale] Ego sum necrosone

2005-02-01 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I agree totally. Dean On Feb 1, 2005, at 2:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Can one imagine the world needing a pejorative term for someone who still has the temerity to profess pleasure upon hearing Bach or Beethoven? Paint me ein Alter Mann. Dean Well there may not be a

Re: [Finale] OT Buying sheet music

2005-02-01 Thread Guy Hayden
FWIW I accompanied this last year and I believe we worked from an edition from Alphonse Leduc. I have no idea who may be your local distributor. Guy Hayden - Original Message - From: A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:47 PM Subject:

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The good, the bad, and the difference?

2005-02-01 Thread Lon Price
On Feb 1, 2005, at 6:06 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Next component, then: Who will begin the educational change? Ouch, ouch, this is very tough. We've lost one generation of educators, now unfamiliar with nonpop (whether new or old, classical or electroacoustic or performance-art based or

Re: [Finale] OT Buying sheet music

2005-02-01 Thread Lon Price
On Jan 31, 2005, at 1:47 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just bought Emmanuel Pahud's Fauré Flute Fantaisie CD, and was very inspired. The printed music I studied with when I was in College was printed in Japan, and it doesn't look that authentic, and would like to purchase a real stuff once for all.

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
aren't you describing everything that went wrong during the 20th century in the shrinking world of art music, where most composers have to have day jobs? No such thing happened. The art music world actually expanded, vastly, during the 20th century. If a contemporary composer's university

[Finale] FW: Note expression feature request

2005-02-01 Thread Don Hart
I thought you all might like to see Coda's response to this request. I told Brian I used those meta tools and envisioned them working in conjunction with this feature. Similar to your experiences Darcy? Don Hart -- Forwarded Message From: MacSupport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 Jan

Re: [Finale] OT: Pitch frequency table

2005-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
Hi, I know how to calculate individual pitch frequencies, but does anyone know of a table on a web page somewhere that lays it all out for you? This would be for A4=440, equal temperament. I have Googled, but without success. - Darcy - Where f = frequency in Hz, and p = pitch in octaves

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The good, the bad, and the difference?

2005-02-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
(Continued) I forgot something in my last post. I set up some questions I didn't answer: But if in some hermetically sealed state, if it were possible, or at least if there were such positions advanced, what would it sound like? Or if there were analysis done of that culture, what would it say?

Re: [Finale] FW: Note expression feature request

2005-02-01 Thread Chuck Israels
I get similar responses from Brian. They seem snippy and condescending. If you put Carla's name in the subject line, you get a cordial and informed response. Chuck On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Don Hart wrote: I thought you all might like to see Coda's response to this request. I told Brian

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-01 Thread Raymond Horton
Another crrosspost from Orchestra-L: Martin Kettle Tuesday February 1, 2005 The Guardian When did the music die? And why? It will be 30 years in August since the death of Dmitri Shostakovitch. Next year also marks the 30th anniversary of the death of Benjamin Britten. Aaron Copland, older than

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-01 Thread Daniel Wolf
Andrew Stiller wrote: aren't you describing everything that went wrong during the 20th century in the shrinking world of art music, where most composers have to have day jobs? No such thing happened. The art music world actually expanded, vastly, during the 20th century. If a contemporary

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The good, the bad, and the difference?

2005-02-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:54 AM 2/1/05 -0800, Lon Price wrote: what chance do arts programs have? There is such a sadness in that question. There are enough musicians, composers, artists, dancers, novelists, poets, etc., to fill school and community arts programs. But it will be volunteer work, self-motivated,

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The good, the bad, and the difference?

2005-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 01:03 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Okay, I'm done here. :) Thanks to everyone who's read through. I've learned I'm a little less inclined to smash things up, but that's probably because I'd end up breaking my aging self in the process. Dennis Fantastic! Very

[Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Stig Christensen
Hey, 2 months ago I left the Windows platform determined to concentrate on my Mac also for Finale. Now I go back for many reasons. But my question is: Is it my imagination or was it possible to scroll vertical with a logitech mouse using the shift keys or something??? Can you help me?? regards

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Jack Ellis
I use a Microsoft optical mouse with a scroll wheel and can scroll up and down. FYI, I programmed the scroll wheel (as middle button) to double click which eases strain on theold tendons. Jack - Original Message - From: Stig Christensen To: Finale Mailing List Sent:

Re: [Finale] OT Buying sheet music

2005-02-01 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Guy Hayden / 05.2.1 / 11:35 AM wrote: I accompanied this last year and I believe we worked from an edition from Alphonse Leduc. Ahh, many of my collection of French music I studied in College seems to be published from Leduc. I certainly believe it must be much better than International

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Stig Christensen / 05.2.1 / 02:36 PM wrote: 2 months ago I left the Windows platform determined to concentrate on my Mac also for Finale. Now I go back for many reasons. But my question is: Is it my imagination or was it possible to scroll vertical with a logitech mouse using the shift keys or

Re: [Finale] FW: Note expression feature request

2005-02-01 Thread Don Hart
Chuck, Thanks for the tip. Now that you mention it, I do remember you offering her name as being helpful a while back. I've taken note. My mileage really varies with their support. I've just gotten (last year or so) to where I've been calling up there again after having given it up for a long

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
My logitech mouse came being able to scroll vertically, out of the box, with no programming necessary, in OS10.3.7. Do you mean scroll horizontally? I don't use that, but I know that the keystroke for that now in FIn2005 is command-pagedown. If there is some way to program that into the mouse,

Re: [Finale] FW: Note expression feature request

2005-02-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Feb 2005, at 3:31 PM, Don Hart wrote: Brian's reply didn't seem too bad compared to other experiences I've had. I just asked Darcy about it because he said he'd already submitted this request numerous times. Yep. Same missing-the-point response from the same individual, who I'm sure is a

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
I think Stig was asking about Windows. But, FWIW, every standard Mac OS X application is supposed to support shift-scroll wheel for horizontal scrolling. Unfortunately, Finale doesn't support this. I've mentioned this to Macsupport a couple of times already. Hopefully it will be fixed in

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Stig Christensen
Thanks for your quick reply. Sorry but it don't bring me closer to the answer to my question: Is it possible to use a Logitech mouse (MX700) to scroll in Finale Windows? venlig hilsen Stig Den 1/2-2005, kl. 20.51, skrev Jack Ellis: x-tad-biggerI use a Microsoft optical mouse with a scroll wheel

[Finale] looking in the archives

2005-02-01 Thread Stig Christensen
Is it possible somehow to browse the archives of this list? Sorry for the miss spelling! regards Stig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] looking in the archives

2005-02-01 Thread Owain Sutton
I always just use Google, searching 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale' plus whatever I've after, e.g. 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale time signature' Stig Christensen wrote: Is it possible somehow to browse the archives of this list? Sorry for the miss spelling! regards Stig

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Randolph Peters
At 5:58 PM -0500 2/1/05, Christopher Smith wrote: My logitech mouse came being able to scroll vertically, out of the box, with no programming necessary, in OS10.3.7. Do you mean scroll horizontally? I don't use that, but I know that the keystroke for that now in FIn2005 is command-pagedown. If

RE: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Lee Actor
Yes, you can scroll in Finale Windows, but not with the most recent Logitech driver (v. 9.79). I'm not sure why, butthe new version broke scrolling in Finale, though not in other applications, as far as I can tell. I reverted to an older driver (9.73), and scrolling works fine. -Lee

Re: [Finale] looking in the archives

2005-02-01 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:24 PM 02/01/2005, Owain Sutton wrote: I always just use Google, searching 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale' plus whatever I've after, e.g. 'site:lists.shsu.edu finale time signature' As of a week or two ago, this list was changed so that the archive is no longer open to Google, and therefore

Re: [Finale] (Moving OT) The necrosone thread

2005-02-01 Thread Bunnydowns
My sadness right now is about the fact that Dennis Bathory is so smart. And no, I'm not being ironic. In the course of these posts and the responses to them (now approaching book-length), Bathory writes as fine and clear an exposition of the dilemma of modern composition as has been made (and

Re: [Finale] Scroll mouse i windows??

2005-02-01 Thread Richard Yates
Yes, you can scroll in Finale Windows, but not with the most recent Logitech driver (v. 9.79). I'm not sure why, but the new version broke scrolling in Finale, though not in other applications, as far as I can tell. I reverted to an older driver (9.73), and scrolling works fine. I

[Finale] Staff Optimaztion Question

2005-02-01 Thread Jim and Pat Sodke
Hi all I'm creating a piano chart that has notes entered in the first two systems, and from system three to the end only chord symbols in the treble clef. I'm attempting to optimize those staffs in page layout, and eliminate the bass, but cannot get anything to happen. I'm using Finale 04