[Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Neal Schermerhorn
I promised I would not respond. Oh well... The difference between 6/4 and 3/2 is precisely the same difference between 6/8 and 3/4. You can argue all night on what the difference is between using a quarter note and a half note as the beat results in, but what it all comes down to is that there

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Owain Sutton
Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant Really? I only know the term as referring to the chord built on the 4th of the scale. It's

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Gerald Berg
Well placed Neal. But I know my eyes won't let me follow. I just can't see it in a passage that mixes time sig. So 4/4 5/4 3/4 6/4 3/2 7/4 Often times I find my 5/4 and 7/4 alternating like 3+2/5 then 2+3/5 Throwing a 3/2 into the mix (to me) indicates a sort of half time feel (that is )

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: Christopher Smith / 2005/06/29 / 06:00 PM wrote: Just to thoroughly discredit my own argument, though, here are two exceptions. There are two pieces of common repertoire which are ordinarily written in 6/8 (divided 3+3) with swing SIXTEENTHS

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Owain Sutton
Gerald Berg wrote: Anyone ever read Paul Creston's Rational Metric Notation? He advocates replaces 6/8 with 6/12. Jerry I haven't read it - but it sounds like this theory would conflict with the more common(!) use of x/10, x/12 etc. in Ferneyhough and the like.

Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

2005-06-30 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel
Regarding "...Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to)...etc." From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was under the impression that Subdominant was a chord at the same

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/06/30 / 01:38 AM wrote: and neither you nor George raised any objections. Are you saying we have met before?!! Oh, this is embarrassing. How come you never mentioned it?! -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com

[Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Godofredo Romero
Good morning, no, not angels, but ladies and gentlemen of the agora, does anyone know how to completely uninstall QuickTime,on Mac. The reason I need to do this is because I need to install the new 7.0 professional version and when trying to do so so I get a warning stating that it can not be

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Stephen Peters
Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: (the I want to live in America effect I don't remember how Bernstein wrote this, but I'd write it with one combined time signature 6/8 and 3/4 and think that that was pretty clear. I've actually

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Godofredo Romero wrote: Good morning, no, not angels, but ladies and gentlemen of the agora, does anyone know how to completely uninstall QuickTime,on Mac. The reason I need to do this is because I need to install the new 7.0 professional version and when trying

Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:31 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: Regarding ...Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to)...etc. From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was under the

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Ken Durling
Well, if you think of it as a subdominant *function* it's not so very wrong. In a similar way vii serves a dominant function. Ken At 09:54 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Gerald Berg
Well it does have rational in the title... :) Jerry On 30-Jun-05, at 9:08 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: Gerald Berg wrote: Anyone ever read Paul Creston's Rational Metric Notation? He advocates replaces 6/8 with 6/12. Jerry I haven't read it - but it sounds like this theory would conflict

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Godofredo Romero / 2005/06/30 / 10:39 AM wrote: does anyone know how to completely uninstall QuickTime,on Mac. The reason I need to do this is because I need to install the new 7.0 professional version and when trying to do so so I get a warning stating that it can not be installed because

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 8:48 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: Anyone ever read Paul Creston's Rational Metric Notation? He advocates replaces 6/8 with 6/12. I read another book of his on rhythm (I forget the name now) and liked what he had to say on the subject. There is so little written on the

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
I am obviously stupid, but can someone explain to me what this means, and in what way it is an example for 6/4 being 3x2/4? The poem seems to be in 2x3/4. Johannes Sorry, I misread your post to mean the opposite of what it actually said. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, I realise that, just as there are many more dominants available than the one built on the 5th degree (speaking of both dominant function and dominant quality). Some of these concepts have grown so much that they deserve their own terms. Like the bVII dominant7 chord resolving to I in

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
(the I want to live in America effect The actual line is I like to be in America. I don't remember how Bernstein wrote this, but I'd write it with one combined time signature 6/8 and 3/4 and think that that was pretty clear.  It seems cluttered to change time signatures every measure for

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
Some of my colleagues have replaced this term with Predominant to be more clear. Christopher Is that the predominant opinion? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Some of my colleagues have replaced this term with Predominant to be more clear. Christopher Is that the predominant opinion? Ooh, TWO puns aimed my way in less than twelve hours! I love it! Christopher (hoping to convert the

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Owain Sutton
Andrew Stiller wrote: The beaming of the hemiolated (3/4) measures is inconsistent. Well, that's consistent with the utter mess of the hand-scrawled parts that I've played off! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Godoredo, If the installer is telling you you have a newer version installed, then in all likelihood you do in fact have a newer version installed! (Probably 7.0.1) Also, QuickTime and QuickTime Pro are exactly the same code. If you purchased QuickTime Pro, all you need to do is enter

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Also, QuickTime and QuickTime Pro are exactly the same code. If you purchased QuickTime Pro, all you need to do is enter your registration code (in Preferences) to unlock the Pro features. You don't need to uninstall or reinstall

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Phil Daley
On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant Really? I only know the term as referring to the chord built on the 4th of the scale. So you're telling me that

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Neal Schermerhorn
Andrew Stiller wrote: The beaming of the hemiolated (3/4) measures is inconsistent. Just conducted WSS last fall. It is 6/8 (3/4). Yes, it is irregular in spots but it plays itself. Only a few spots where it isn't one then the other, and those are easily pointed out in rehearsal. I conducted

Re: Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread richard.bartkus
On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant If this is true, then do you call the 7th a sub-tonic ? Call me aa A-retentive tradionalist, but I believe that by

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2005, at 1:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant If this is true, then do you call the 7th a sub-tonic ?

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 0:14, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 11:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 29 Jun 2005, at 9:28 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: The work in question is most definitely in two groups of 3 beats each (although it often hemiolas into 3/2 temporarily). That's

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 2:09, Neal Schermerhorn wrote: NOW - 3/2 could be felt in one but who would do such a thing? 3/4 or 3/8 would more meaningfully carry the sense of in one to the musician. 3/2 is almost always felt in 3. Well, depends on what you're talking about. If you're talking about

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 9:20, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:54 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant Really?

Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 10:30, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:31 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: ...Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant (though it doesn't invariably have to)...etc. From:

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread Owain Sutton
David W. Fenton wrote: If you're talking about choosing a meter for a composition of your own, you'd make the choice depending on what the musicians you're composing for would expect. If I'm writing for viol consort, I'd choose 3/2, since viols are more accustomed to reading small

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Godofredo Romero
This is what happened, this is what I did. I was running QuickTime pro version 6.5 and downloaded the latest version, 7.0, of QuickTime Player and when I runned the installer I received the message that it can not be installed because there is a newer version running in my machine, in view of

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Godofredo Romero / 2005/06/30 / 06:44 PM wrote: pleeese... help me... Did you repair permission? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Godofredo, Running Software Update should get you the latest version of all QuickTime components. But are you sure you don't already have QuickTime Player 7.0.1 on your computer somewhere? Go to System Preferences - QuickTime - Register. It should tell you there which version is

Re: [Finale] uninstalling quicktime

2005-06-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Oh, I forgot, you can also try System Preferences - QuickTime - Update instead of/in addition to Software Update. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Subdominant-was half rests in 6/4

2005-06-30 Thread Harold Owen
For some time I have used the term pre-dominant (I think the hyphen is helpful) for a number of harmonies that can precede the dominant - N6, A6, V/V, vi, ii, Vo7/V, bVII, etc. (including the addition of 7ths). The term subdominant really should be restricted to the harmony built on the 4th

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!

2005-06-30 Thread Harold Owen
Hello folks. Has anyone mentioned the term sesquialtera? One source i have says IIn Hispanic Music, it may refer to the mixture of duple and triple time within groups of six quavers (eighth notes). Hal Owen -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my

[Finale] Open Recent...

2005-06-30 Thread Brian Williams
Hello all, Is there some way to clear out the Open Recent... list in the File menu of Finale 2005 (Mac) without trashing all of the global preference settings? Thanks in advance for your help, Brian ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Open Recent...

2005-06-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Brian Williams wrote: Is there some way to clear out the Open Recent... list in the File menu of Finale 2005 (Mac) without trashing all of the global preference settings? Try selecting options program options advanced, and setting the value to zero. After clicking OK, shut down the

Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 11:35, Andrew Stiller wrote: (the I want to live in America effect The actual line is I like to be in America. That was my memory misfire. I don't remember how Bernstein wrote this, but I'd write it with one combined time signature 6/8 and 3/4 and think that that was

(Fwd) Re: Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the origin

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 13:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant If this is true, then do you call the 7th a sub-tonic ? In

Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 10:46, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 30, 2005, at 8:48 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: Anyone ever read Paul Creston's Rational Metric Notation? He advocates replaces 6/8 with 6/12. I read another book of his on rhythm (I forget the name now) and liked what he had to say

Re: [Finale] Open Recent...

2005-06-30 Thread Richard Yates
In Windows the list is stored in the Registry under: HKEY_CURRENT_USER Software CodaMusic Finale2005 FINALE Recent File List You may be able to simply delete the entries but I have heard so many warnings about editing the Registry that I will leave it to you to try! Richard Yates -

[Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
Well, I got an education this afternoon trying to find a free WAV to MP3 converter. I downloaded about 6 different ones, some shareware, some freeware. In the process, the installers put in place any amount of adware and spyware. It was ridiculous. Does anyone have recommendations on a

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:07 PM 6/30/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Does anyone have recommendations on a Windows WAV to MP3 converter that has a decent interface, produces non-corrupt results with good quality (they all seemed to use the LAME compression library, but the sound of the result was not uniformly

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread Cecil Rigby
Hi David- I went through the same frustrating process of trying to find a free converter. I finally gave up and tried something that was recommended by a friend of mine--PolderbitS. I love it. http://www.polderbits.com © 1998-2004 PolderbitS Software I wish I owned that

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread Cecil Rigby
yeh, I know- I forgot to say clearly that PolderbitS is not free. sorry. I just never found a free one that would do what I wanted and do it right. Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 22:25, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:07 PM 6/30/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Does anyone have recommendations on a Windows WAV to MP3 converter that has a decent interface, produces non-corrupt results with good quality (they all seemed to use the LAME compression

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread Richard Yates
MusicMatch JukeBox Does anyone have recommendations on a Windows WAV to MP3 converter that has a decent interface, produces non-corrupt results with good quality ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:58 PM 6/30/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 Jun 2005 at 22:25, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: (And if you by any chance have Adobe Audition, it can save in mp3 format and includes the codec.) I don't have that. I'm no fan of Adobe products in general. I agree with you, and use them

Re: [Finale] WAV To MP3 Converters

2005-06-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2005 at 21:05, Richard Yates wrote: Does anyone have recommendations on a Windows WAV to MP3 converter that has a decent interface, produces non-corrupt results with good quality MusicMatch JukeBox No way! That's a horrid program that I've seen pre-installed on a lot of