Re: [Finale] turn quarters into 16ths

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Mark D Lew schrieb: I do those as an articulation. Mass Mover's Apply Articulation function gives enough flexibility to do it fairly efficiently en masse. Of course as articulation. With a metatool you can apply it to a whole screenful at once. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] midi chanels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Neal Schermerhorn schrieb: Maybe one of the many so preoddupied with the non-Finale threads would care to coment? Is this your first post to the list? I can't remember your name somehow. You must be one of the owners then? Or what other rights do you have to complain? Johannes --

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
Richard Smith wrote: These explanations are very wordy but if you play with it, I think you will find Sibelius easy to use without a midi. I work quickly on both my desktop and my laptop without midi. Just give yourself a little time to get adjusted to Sibelius before making a judgment.

RE: [Finale] Beams over rests

2005-07-13 Thread Lee Actor
On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Lee Actor wrote: I want to extend 16th note beams over rests in one particular measure without setting it that way for the entire file. Does anyone have a simple/clever workaround for this? (And wouldn't it be nice if this option could be turned on and

Re: [Finale] Accidental Bug

2005-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:20 PM 7/12/05 -0700, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jul 10, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: And another one -- the bass-clef first-note speedy-entry bug. Type along from the computer keyboard and at random the first note of some measures will be way up high, as if it were

Re: [Finale] Finale SongWriter??

2005-07-13 Thread Rocky Road
http://www.makemusic.com/press_releases.aspx?pid=53 Does MakeMusic! really need *another* intermediate-level notation product? I just wish they'd update Printmusic from 2004 so I can replace NotepadFree with something cheap that recognizes a USB MIDI keyboard. -- Rocky Road - in Oz

Re: [Finale] A Brief Commentary

2005-07-13 Thread Rocky Road
I've been away for a few days, receiving e-mails but not really reading any. Today I looked to see 457 messages in my Finale List folder. 243 of them are about Sibelius. It's no skin off my nose, since I'll delete 'em without further ado, but if finale@shsu.edu is going to be spending so

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-13 Thread Rocky Road
I believe, as has been pointed out before, that to Mailman the words private list mean something different from how you mean it. As the list page says, This is a private list, which means that the list of members is not available to non-members. That's *all* it means to Mailman. It does not

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:18 PM, Richard Smith wrote: These explanations are very wordy but if you play with it, I think you will find Sibelius easy to use without a midi. And without a mouse, too, I hope. I work quickly on both my desktop and my laptop without midi. Just

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/12/2005 03:49 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Apologies for my earlier message, I misunderstood what this was showing No problem. Still, I maintain that if you don't want your email address to be widely-publicised, using a mailing list to which anyone can subscribe is a silly thing to do Why

Re: [Finale] midi chanels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
Neal Schermerhorn wrote: Hey, I know the FINALE list is all so busy discussing everything but FINALE, but his guy had a question. I am pretty bad in understanding how midi works, having been always interested in music typesetting, but I have a problem here and I don't know what to do. The

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/12/2005 03:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the difference between posting to any unmoderated Usenet group and posting to the Finale list. It's a *huge* difference. I guess you need to explain why there is ANY difference, other than having to subscribe ahead of time. Since ANYONE

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Phil Daley schrieb: Here you go: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:06:43 EST From: MX mailing list processor [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RETAIN IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE You have been added to mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil, you may not have noticed, but the

RE: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread ronan
Cool down, Man! I have as much right to voice my opinion as any other member of the list. I have been very active in other forums for the past several years, taking part in discussions and helping novices with their problems. Just because I'm new to this list serve does not classify me as a

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Dan Carno
At 03:52 AM 7/13/2005, you wrote: Sibelius asks that you define these properties of a note before you enter the note itself. Not true. I use Sibelius (as well as Finale) regularly, and I never input in this manner. I always enter the notes first and then everything else afterwards. Just

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Ronald, As someone who is new to this list, did it ever occur to you that maybe you shouldn't begin your involvement with this list by lecturing everyone else on how it ought to be run? This is not a moderated list, and people are free to discuss whatever they deem appropriate. And LOTS of

RE: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread ronan
Okay, I seem to have started a tempest in a teapot here. I joined this list serve a week ago. There were days when all I saw where lists of Sibelius this and Sibelius that. As a newcomer I was beginning to believe this was a Sibelius list and that I had joined the wrong one. I thought, okay, this

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
ronan schrieb: Cool down, Man! I have as much right to voice my opinion as any other member of the list. I have been very active in other forums for the past several years, taking part in discussions and helping novices with their problems. Just because I'm new to this list serve does not

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:51 AM 7/13/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: I think that speedy entry in Finale, where you can work along without a mouse once you have clicked to enter the editing frame, and you use only the computer keyboard without the numeric keypad, isn't quite possible in Sibelius. I see. This is the

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 08:09 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Phil Daley schrieb: Here you go: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:06:43 EST From: MX mailing list processor [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RETAIN IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE You have been added to mailing list

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Yates
Anyhow, let's drop the whole thing. Ron Sounds good, but stick around. The tides of topics come and go. Some here will remember the (it seems like) hundreds of messages over the question of when the 20th Century actually ended. Ultimately, though, you will find that this list is a tremendous

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Yates
Missing from this list is: 70. Note spacing cannot be set to avoid collisions with expressions. This, combined with the inability to move articulations horizontally, was the key deficiency in my deciding not to buy Sibelius. Richard Yates I was looking through my archives. I guess Sib must

Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!

2005-07-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 12, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Simon Troup wrote: ... apart from the fact that when you join it says ... This is a private list, which means that the list of members is not available to non-members. ... which I would have thought covered _not_ having my email address readily available on

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
Yes.. This List has always been a valuable resource when I needed an answer about Finale. Ron should be forgiven for not knowing that it is futile to suggest that a topic be dropped on the Finale List...I have been wearing out my delete key recently too, and I don't recall hearing such anger

[Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
OK, here's the current list info when you subscribe: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:41:52 -0500 Welcome to the Finale@shsu.edu mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: finale@shsu.edu General information about the mailing list is at:

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: Anyhow, let's drop the whole thing. Ron Sounds good, but stick around. The tides of topics come and go. Some here will remember the (it seems like) hundreds of messages over the question of when the 20th Century actually ended. It's over? Yikes! Why wasn't I

Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread Ken Durling
I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this list looks like it was from version 1.4. I'm really not sure what relevance it has at this point. But at a glance I see things that have been fixed, things that haven't and things that display an ignorance of how Sibelius works. Did

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
Dan Carno wrote: Not true. I use Sibelius (as well as Finale) regularly, and I never input in this manner. I always enter the notes first and then everything else afterwards. Just as in Finale, it is a simple matter to do mass entry of articulations, mass copying of expressions, etc.

Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 09:49 AM, Ken Durling wrote: I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this list looks like it was from version 1.4. I'm really not sure what relevance it has at this point. But at a glance I see things that have been fixed, things that haven't and things that display

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Randolph Peters
At 9:25 AM -0400 7/13/05, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I have been wearing out my delete key recently too, This is a handy tip for some email programs: In Eudora, for example, you can option-click on a subject line in the mail box and it will quickly select and group all of the same subject

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list

2005-07-13 Thread Allen Fisher
Hope nobody unsubscribes you *grin* On 7/13/05 8:40 AM, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: -- Allen ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] midi channels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Allen Fisher
Hi Eric, If you've got each instrument on a separate channel, make sure you choose Channels become Staves in the import MIDI file dialog. HTH, Allen -- Allen J. Fisher Quality Assurance Developer MakeMusic! Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.makemusic.com On 7/12/05 3:27 PM, Eric Dussault

RE: [Finale] midi chanels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread ronan
I own Finale 2004 (about to be 2006) and it supports 64 channels. Check the midi option settings. Ron Ronald J Brown -Original Message- From: Neal Schermerhorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 13, 2005 12:38 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] midi chanels assignment Hey,

[Finale] Changing Instruments

2005-07-13 Thread George Galway
Dear All, Can someone please help? How can I change instruments after creating a file. I have created a piece for clarinet, piano and double bass. I would like to change the bass to another bass inst. Or perhaps tuba. Many Thanks, George Galway Manchester UK attachment:

[Finale] Confusion re staff systems

2005-07-13 Thread BillSincl
Hi Finale gurus; I'm trying to understand better how to manipulate staff systems, or line grouping of measures. Suppose I encounter a situation where 4 measures (let's say 33-36) are on a linethat istoo crowded. I see that I can reduce crowding by forcing measure 36 to be on a line with the

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
Not a problem. I already unsubscribed. It was just a test address so I could see what the message was. I guess I should have read it more carefully ;-) At 7/13/2005 10:39 AM, Allen Fisher wrote: Hope nobody unsubscribes you *grin* On 7/13/05 8:40 AM, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said

Re: [Finale] Changing Instruments

2005-07-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Go into staff tool, click on the stave you wish to change - change the name of the stave in the "staff attributes" box. To change the midi sound, go into "window" - "instrument list" and change the relevant instrument there. All the best, Lawrence - Manchester "þaes ofereode - þisses

Re: [Finale] Confusion re staff systems

2005-07-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:01 AM 07/13/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to understand better how to manipulate staff systems, or line grouping of measures. Suppose I encounter a situation where 4 measures (let's say 33-36) are on a line that is too crowded. I see that I can reduce crowding by forcing measure

Re: [Finale] Confusion re staff systems

2005-07-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to understand better how to manipulate staff systems, or line grouping of measures. Suppose I encounter a situation where 4 measures (let's say 33-36) are on a line that is too crowded. I see that I can reduce crowding by forcing measure 36 to be on a line

RE: [Finale] Changing Instruments

2005-07-13 Thread George Galway
Hi Lawrence, Many thanks for your rapid reply! I owe you a pint of best bitter if I ever bump into you. George G. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 13 July 2005 16:11To: finale@shsu.eduSubject: Re: [Finale] Changing Instruments Go

Re: [Finale] Confusion re staff systems

2005-07-13 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 13/07/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to understand better how to manipulate staff systems, or line grouping of measures. Suppose I encounter a situation where 4 measures (let's say 33-36) are on a line that is too crowded. I see that I can reduce crowding by

[Finale] Rights to complain

2005-07-13 Thread Neal Schermerhorn
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is this your first post to the list? I can't remember your name somehow. You must be one of the owners then? Or what other rights do you have to complain? 1) No it is not. I've been a member and lightly posting since early 04. Not that it would be relevant, as probably

[Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Shaw
I haven't used Finale for several years, and I'm getting ready to start up again. Has the copy protection changed since Finale 2003? I don't want to upgrade to a version that e.g. requires me to mount the CD or whatever. Thanks, Phil Shaw ___

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
Hi Randolph, I am interested in your Eudora tip. Thanks for sharing. What is the equivalent on a Windows keyboard of the Mac option key? Ken Fowler At 09:25 AM 7/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: At 9:25 AM -0400 7/13/05, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I have been wearing out my delete key recently

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Phil Daley schrieb: OK, here's the current list info when you subscribe: I hvae sort of lost the point of it, though. What was it you were trying to say? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale

[Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Phew, man, reading that many posts in English is almost torturing to me. I hope I didn't miss anything so my following question won't look stoopid. And no, I don't have time to download Sib demo since reading Finale list takes all day long on my end :-) Ever since Finale v1.0, my biggest gripe

Re: [Finale] midi channels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dussault
But i still have to make sure that my Finale is configured so that each 16 midi port is connected to a device if I don't want it to screw my channels when importing midi. Do I? Éric Dussault Le 05-07-13 à 10:43, Allen Fisher a écrit : Hi Eric, If you've got each instrument on a separate

[Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread Jonathan Smith
I did this list years back, at v1.4 and then again after v2. Many of the points as you mention are fixed, some still there, and there are always new ones to moan about.But I don't think these things are a bash at anything. There are 2 good notation applications out there, Finale and Sibelius. They

Re: [Finale] Rights to complain

2005-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:13 PM 7/13/05 -0400, Neal Schermerhorn wrote: So please save your big-fish-little-pond ego for someone else. I don't care to stroke it. Please do not stroke *any* fish on this list! Requisite emoticons: :-) :-O =:O Dennis ___ Finale mailing

[Finale] System indent

2005-07-13 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Another wish I have had for long time. Almost all the chart I do, I have Code or TAG at the end, and I like so the system spaced down and indented which will catch sight-reader's eye (I also color-highlight, of course :-). As you can specify Start New System, I love to have indent option and a

Re: [Finale] midi channels assignment

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dussault
By the way thank you Allen (and the others who dared to answer)! Éric Dussault Le 05-07-13 à 10:43, Allen Fisher a écrit : Hi Eric, If you've got each instrument on a separate channel, make sure you choose Channels become Staves in the import MIDI file dialog.

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:19 PM 07/13/2005, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: I am interested in your Eudora tip. Thanks for sharing. What is the equivalent on a Windows keyboard of the Mac option key? Alt-click for Win Eudora. You can also Alt-click on a sender's name to quickly group and select all email in the mailbox

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? Regardless, your comments are totally out of line in what a list is supposed to be. Is there something wrong with people who subscribe to a list, but don't post? I'm on a number of

Re: [Finale] Rights to complain

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Neal Schermerhorn schrieb: That said, what right do I have to complain? As much right as you have to complain - which you have been doing lately with aplomb. Ay? See, we're members of an email list. Some members are really knowledgeable and have a lot to offer. Others are less so, but pipe

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 12:15 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Phil Daley schrieb: OK, here's the current list info when you subscribe: I hvae sort of lost the point of it, though. What was it you were trying to say? D Fenton said he didn't know what the current subscriber info had to say on privacy, ie.

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
Just clicking on the header works fine in V5. At 7/13/2005 12:47 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:19 PM 07/13/2005, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: I am interested in your Eudora tip. Thanks for sharing. What is the equivalent on a Windows keyboard of the Mac option key? Alt-click for Win Eudora. You

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 12:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? The Sib stuff was neither OT nor TAN. Get a life. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Stephen Peters
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 06:51 AM 7/13/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote: I think that speedy entry in Finale, where you can work along without a mouse once you have clicked to enter the editing frame, and you use only the computer keyboard without the numeric keypad, isn't

[Finale] [TAN] Eudora sorting

2005-07-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:09 PM 07/13/2005, Phil Daley wrote: Just click the header, no option key required. It's just Windows ;-) Phil, that sorts the whole mailbox by whatever column you click on. In recent versions of Eudora, if you Alt-click on a *particular* subject or sender, Eudora will quickly group and

[Finale] Eudora column sorting

2005-07-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 01:17 PM, Phil Daley wrote: Just clicking on the header works fine in V5. I just did a test. click, CTRL-click, or ALT-click sorts the list forwards. SHIFT-click sorts the list backwards. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley

Re: [Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
Phil Shaw wrote: I haven't used Finale for several years, and I'm getting ready to start up again. Has the copy protection changed since Finale 2003? I don't want to upgrade to a version that e.g. requires me to mount the CD or whatever. Thanks, Phil Shaw

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? Regardless, your comments are totally out of line in what a list is supposed to be. Is there something wrong with people who subscribe to a list, but don't

Re: [Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 13/07/2005 18:38:26 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: they give you a responding number to enter in the appropriate blank and all is well until you change enough different hardware aspects of your computer that Finale thinks it's on a different machine Does

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Ken Durling wrote: I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this list looks like it was from version 1.4. I'm really not sure what relevance it has at this point. But at a glance I see things that have been fixed, things that haven't and things

Re: [Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 13 Jul 2005, at 1:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean, then, that so long as you don't go on the internet (or if you delete the relevant cookie) you can input the security number onto any machine and it will work? No. Like David said, the code itself is based on your

Re: [Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 13/07/2005 18:38:26 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: they give you a responding number to enter in the appropriate blank and all is well until you change enough different hardware aspects of your computer that Finale thinks it's on

[Finale] copy protection problems OT

2005-07-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Thanks David, The reason I was asking was related not to Finale but, since you mention it, to Windows XP which seems to operate a similar system. I bought the professional version for one of mymachines and stupidly installed it on the wrong one (too small memory). I then installed it on

Re: [Finale] Beams over rests

2005-07-13 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jul 13, 2005, at 1:52 AM, Lee Actor wrote: I don't think that works in the case of four 16ths where the first and last are rests. Or maybe I don't understand your method? You're right. I didn't realize you were asking for the rests to be at the end of the beam. In that case, I'd do

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yes, some of it was. When people start asking HOW to do stuff in Sibelius, then it becomes not related. Phil Daley wrote: At 7/13/2005 12:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? The Sib

Re: [Finale] Eudora column sorting

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Wow, perhaps you need to label this OT or TAN? No no, that would be getting a life. And that would be polite to the list... Phil Daley wrote: At 7/13/2005 01:17 PM, Phil Daley wrote: Just clicking on the header works fine in V5. I just did a test. click, CTRL-click, or ALT-click sorts

Re: [Finale] [TAN] Eudora sorting

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Thank you! Someone who can respect the list. Woohoo. On the Eudora thing, you could also set up a filter to highlight and flag TAN or other subjects to make them stand out from the rest of the messages. Aaron Sherber wrote: At 01:09 PM 07/13/2005, Phil Daley wrote: Just click the header,

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 13, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Yes, some of it was. When people start asking HOW to do stuff in Sibelius, then it becomes not related. Phil Daley wrote: At 7/13/2005 12:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006 upgrade price

2005-07-13 Thread Raymond Horton
Please excuse me for barging in with a Finale question, g but: For a sucker, err, early adopter like myself, who just can't bear to have a new version of Finale come out without exploring the new features for himself (plus, I have an excuse in that Cimarron Music always upgrades right away,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2006 upgrade price

2005-07-13 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
The only 'deal' I've seen offered is the $99 offer extended down from 2005 users to also include 2004 users; that requires the use of code “FIN6U4” when ordering and this offerexpires September 25, 2005. And really -- I could have just waited for someone else to offer this info, but I'm

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 9:37, Jari Williamsson wrote: Richard Smith wrote: These explanations are very wordy but if you play with it, I think you will find Sibelius easy to use without a midi. I work quickly on both my desktop and my laptop without midi. Just give yourself a little time to

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Very much related, since the whole point was to point out the differences and shortcomings of Finale. It is not only related, it is one of the many things that this list is concerned with. Johannes Eric Dannewitz schrieb: Yes, some of it was. When people start asking HOW to do stuff in

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Eric Dannewitz schrieb: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? The Sibelius discussion was neither TAN nor OT, and it has Sibelius in the subject header. It was spot on topic. Regardless, your comments are totally out

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Well, that's unfortunate. Johannes Jari Williamsson schrieb: Johannes Gebauer wrote: My patience is already stretched with this. If you don't like the way this list works you are free to go. I go. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
A-NO-NE Music schrieb: Ever since Finale v1.0, my biggest gripe is the last system. Why Finale doesn't intellectually resize last system according to given measure(s) size, or there is such option that I can't find? No, as far as I know there is no such feature. I myself would never use

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 13 Jul 2005, at 1:19 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: My patience is already stretched with this. If you don't like the way this list works you are free to go. I go. Well, sorry to hear that. Why? (And why now?) - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY

Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 7:00, Phil Daley wrote: At 7/12/2005 03:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the difference between posting to any unmoderated Usenet group and posting to the Finale list. It's a *huge* difference. I guess you need to explain why there is ANY difference, other than

RE: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 8:29, ronan wrote: Is this how it works here? Only well-known names are allowed to publish complaints? If anyone else does, they are lurkers and thread cops? You are being taken to task not because you've posted, but because you're complaining about what other people are

[Finale] OT: Ensemble promotion help

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Hi, Boy am I going to make myself unpopular now. I need help. I need to redesign my Ensemble's promotional material, and I need to do it very soon. I wonder whether anyone on this list would be happy to share some tips on how to design a (successful) folder/brochure which can be sent to concert

Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 6:49, Ken Durling wrote: I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this list looks like it was from version 1.4. I'm really not sure what relevance it has at this point. But at a glance I see things that have been fixed, things that haven't and things that

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Johannes Gebauer / 2005/07/13 / 03:16 PM wrote: The reason for me is that any publication I have seen would not do it this way. Instead the spacing throughout the piece will have to be tweaked, so that the last system holds a proportional amount of music - and not just a single measure. I

Re: [Finale] Rights to complain

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 12:13, Neal Schermerhorn wrote: Again - of COURSE I understand why the Sibelius thread is on-topic. I also know the discussion of off-SHSU archiving is (sorta) on-topic. I have no problem with that. But jeez, even if I was complaining, don't you think it's less annoying to

Re: [Finale] OT: graphics in MS word

2005-07-13 Thread Burt Fenner
I would guess that if you viewed the document in HTML the source of the graphic would be shown. BF shirling neueweise wrote: does anyone know of a way to find out the file name of a graphic which has been inserted into a word doc? i can find all the info on its placement, adjustments

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Dan Carno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip At 03:52 AM 7/13/2005, you wrote: Sibelius asks that you define these properties of a note before you enter the note itself. Not true. I use Sibelius (as well as Finale) regularly, and I never input in this manner. I always enter the notes

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-13 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/07 / 07:14 PM wrote: I agree, USB 1.1 is inadequate for MIDI + everything else, but that's why the pros get a FireWire or USB 2 MIDI interface. Boy, takes long time to go through all the list traffic :-) Just for the record, USB 1.1 was fine in my MIDI setup. My

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: 2. cautionary accidentals I thought they were locked in versions since about Fin2k. You can tell by a * appearing in the Speedy frame when the cursor is on that note (and pitch). This is pretty stable. In earlier versions you had to manually invoke this condition

[Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Lee Actor
Can anyone who is currently using GPO with Finale 2005 tell me how useful from a practical standpoint the subset of GPO that is shipping with Finale 2006 is compared to the full version? In other words, how much do you depend on the patches not included with the partial version for decent

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 9:50, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? Yes, for OT or TAN posts. Neither the Sibelius or the archiving threads are either OT or TAN. The Sibelius thread was about the future

Re: [Finale] Has Finale changed copy protection since Finale 2003?

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 14:04, dhbailey wrote: The number you provide MakeMusic is specifically generated for your machine somehow (maybe even to the point of being placed in the registry) and needs the specific MakeMusic generated answering number in order to let the software work. My guess is

Re: [Finale] The ultimate Sibelius question...

2005-07-13 Thread Dan Carno
At 04:01 PM 7/13/2005, you wrote: Sibelius DOES ask you to specify the accidentals and augmentation dots before entering the notes. This is not optional unless you backtrack to the note, a method which is obviously not efficient. Hello Tyler, Well, this brings us right back to the point I

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 11:27, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Phil Daley wrote: At 7/13/2005 12:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? The Sib stuff was neither OT nor TAN. Get a life. Yes,

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Jul 2005 at 22:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: 2. cautionary accidentals I thought they were locked in versions since about Fin2k. You can tell by a * appearing in the Speedy frame when the cursor is on that note (and pitch). This is pretty stable. In earlier

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: 2. cautionary accidentals I thought they were locked in versions since about Fin2k. You can tell by a * appearing in the Speedy frame when the cursor is on that note (and pitch). This is pretty stable. In earlier versions you had to manually invoke this condition by

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone who is currently using GPO with Finale 2005 tell me how useful from a practical standpoint the subset of GPO that is shipping with Finale 2006 is compared to the full version? In other words, how much do you depend on the patches not

Re: [Finale] Feature Request: Copy Dialog

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Now that is a good idea. A-NO-NE Music wrote: Another one I have been asking for last 17 years. I am a Shift+Opt(alt)+Click guy since Cmd(Ctrl)+C/V was no available in early Finale ages. I have always wanted to have one more key combi to Shift+Opt(alt)+Click so you get the what items to

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-13 Thread ronan
Hi Lee, I am currently using the full GPO with Finale 2004--and I can't wait for Finale 2006. As I understand it, about 100 GPO instruments are included with F2006--and that means, to me, that they can be loaded directly from Finale. It seems that the GPO instruments missing from the cut down

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