Anyone else noticed that Line Spacing is disabled in the Text
Expression Designer dialog box?
Even if this menu item is available, nothing happens when you try to
select it (with or without the expression itself highlighted).
I'll report it when / if someone on the list can corfirm it as a
In case anyone is interested I have now been forced to prove my case to
the client, so I looked at the following list of publications:
Mendelssohn, Hebriden-Ouvertüre, Bärenreiter, 2004.
Mozart, Marriage of Figaro, Peters 1941
Beethoven, Sinfonie Nr 6, Eulenburg 1986
Bach, Wohltemperiertes
I have three nearly complete editions of the Bach
organ works, (Barenreiter, EMB, Peters and a few
Schirmers) including most of the Peters - I'll
check later as this has my curiosity now, but
they are at church not here at home.
Ken
At 08:22 AM 9/8/2005, you wrote:
Johannes Gebauer
I was fascinated with this thread, 'coz I never thought it is an issue.
I always put curtsy repeated accidental with parenthesis (hit '*' then
'P') so we save rehearsal/studio time.
--
- Hiro
Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
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On 17:22 Uhr dc wrote:
The Peters Urtext edition of the (manualiter) Toccatas, 1956, seems
to follow the rule. All my other volumes of organ works are
Bärenreiter (with one Breitkopf).
Thanks, that's what I needed to know.
The client has actually given in. He actually checked his own
If you mean you do this for system breaks, you can use Robert's TieMover
plugin, it can do this automatically. I let it do this in the same run
as I move ties on lines a quarter space away from the note (it's amazing
that Finale can now do this for slurs, but requires a third party plugin
to
I agree, it's never been an issue for me either - more problematic is
a reiteration of the same note later in the 2nd measure, and whether
the measure rule applies from the tied note. But still the courtesy
accidental is always the safe road. (I do like curtsy accidental
though :-) -
dc / 2005/09/08 / 12:05 PM wrote:
I think I've always seen it without the brackets.
To me, without parenthesis, it can be confused with slurred instead of
tied, no?
--
- Hiro
Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com
On Sep 8, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:The client has actually given in. He actually checked his own Peters, and to his surprise found that I was correct...Of course now his trust in me has quadrupled. Took me a whole day, though.Only a day? I'd consider that a speed record! :-)Chuck
On 18:10 Uhr Ken Durling wrote:
I agree, it's never been an issue for me either - more problematic is
a reiteration of the same note later in the 2nd measure, and whether
the measure rule applies from the tied note. But still the courtesy
accidental is always the safe road.
Do you mean you
I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy
accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not
carry through the measure, and if it's e.g., an Eb, the next Eb in
the measure would require a (non-courtesy) accidental.
But it would be nice to know what others
Darcy James Argue / 2005/09/08 / 12:41 PM wrote:
I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy
accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not
carry through the measure, and if it's e.g., an Eb, the next Eb in
the measure would require a (non-courtesy)
Well, I'm not entirely sure being on system break or not affects this
question. If an accidental is tied across a barline it seems to me
it raises the question of subsequent identical pitches in the
following bar in either case, so that adding an accidental - probably
NOT courtesy but normal
At 9/8/2005 01:04 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
Well, I'm not entirely sure being on system break or not affects this
question. If an accidental is tied across a barline it seems to me
it raises the question of subsequent identical pitches in the
following bar in either case, so that adding an
Further to the recent discussions about binding
large format scores, we're now offering the
Akiles CoilMac-M Manual Punch and Coil Inserter.
This machine has an Open Punching Throat, so
accommodates multiple-pass punching for large-format
scores. As Robert Piechaud (creator of November font
and
On 9/7/05, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Revisiting Brad's issue with sluggishness when using FinMac2006. I
had a client experiencing the same thing as Brad was describing. I
had my client look at his crash logs and he found continuous errors
with mdimportserver which has to do with
On 8 Sep 2005 at 16:30, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
If anyone has the time I would really be interested if a (any) Peters
publication of Bach Organ works follows this, sometimes or all the
times, or not at all, since he seems to claim that they don't. I
cannot check this since I don't own one.
On Sep 8, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy
accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not
carry through the measure, and if it's e.g., an Eb, the next Eb in
the measure would require a (non-courtesy)
On 8 Sep 2005 at 17:22, dc wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
If anyone has the time I would really be interested if a (any) Peters
publication of Bach Organ works follows this, sometimes or all the
times, or not at all, since he seems to claim that they don't. I
cannot check this since I don't
On 19:04 Uhr Ken Durling wrote:
Well, I'm not entirely sure being on system break or not affects this
question. If an accidental is tied across a barline it seems to me
it raises the question of subsequent identical pitches in the
following bar in either case, so that adding an accidental -
Yes, I follow you and concur for the tied note. I was just talking
about subsequent iterations of the pitch.
Ken
At 12:05 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote:
On 19:04 Uhr Ken Durling wrote:
Well, I'm not entirely sure being on system break or not affects
this question. If an accidental is tied across
Figured I'd pull out the old Stravinsky Sacre score, the Kalmus reprint
that I bought in the 1960s. Not exactly a monument to engraving, but very
legible in general, considering how much is going on.
So no answer. It goes both ways. The English Horn line from p1-2
repeats the sharp as does
On 20:57 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote:
The Peters volume that I was looking at is a reprint of one of their
old editions, with a preface dated 1852, so one might guess that the
musical text reflects much older engraving rules.
This reflects my observations as well. I have here a volume of
Interesting. I have the IMC score, and although the pagination is
different, I can see that they follow a similar practice - but here
accidentals are only rarely repeated on ties over system breaks. I've
only found one example so far. Lots of non-repeated ones.
Ken
At 12:14 PM 9/8/2005,
I've been trying for the better part of a year to figure something out.
No luck yet...
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As long as we're talking about this, there's a question I've wondered
about for years that maybe someone on this list knows the answer to:
Is collaging fair usage? Specifically, consider Berio's *Sinfonia*,
which quotes numerous copyrighted works without any notice of written
permission to
I don't know what the limit is, but I always understood that there
was a certain length of quote that went over the line into
infringement. I have in my faulty memory 4 measures for popular
songs, but that doesn't seem too practical to me.
Chuck
On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Andrew
Just curious, although I've heard the work. I'm not intimately
familiar with it, and I'm only aware of the Mahler 2 Scherzo in
there. What else is there? And is/was the Mahler for sure under copyright?
Ken
At 01:51 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote:
As long as we're talking about this, there's a
Andrew,
Significant use of copyrighted material within a new original work
would seem to be in the same spirit as sampling -- which normally
only covers the use of existing _recordings_, but still, the
principle is the same.
http://www.music-law.com/sampling.html
- Darcy
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On Sep 7, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I can't find this in Ted Ross, and am looking for a rule: When a tie
reaches across a System break, should an accidental be repeated on the
second note?
My policy is to do this only following a page turn.
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music
I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy
accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not
carry through the measure, and if it's e.g., an Eb, the next Eb in the
measure would require a (non-courtesy) accidental.
But it would be nice to know what others do
Thank you Christopher, a nice idea that worked perfectly!
/Hans
On Sep 8, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Hans Arktoft wrote:
Anyone else noticed that Line Spacing is disabled in the Text
Expression Designer dialog box?
Even if this menu item is available, nothing happens when you try to
select it (with
hello mr. stiller and listers,
if i recall well, there's a notice acknowledging permission from various
publishers. i don't have it at hand, but i'll check it tomorrow at my
studio.
regards,
marcelo
From: Andrew Stiller
As long as we're talking about this, there's a question I've wondered
Le 05-09-08 à 09:04, Hans Arktoft a écrit :
Anyone else noticed that Line Spacing is disabled in the Text
Expression Designer dialog box?
Even if this menu item is available, nothing happens when you try
to select it (with or without the expression itself highlighted).
I'll report it when
A while back on this list, it was reported that the Windows version
of the Ambience plugin included with Finale did not allow you to
choose any of the presets (Ballroom, Concert Hall, etc).
To the WinFin2006 users out there, I have a few questions about this
bug:
1) Can this be solved by
One more question:
Does the factory preset menu appear at all? On the VST version of
Ambience for Mac, it's located in the bottom-left corner. Is the menu
there, but empty? Are the choices grayed-out? Or is it not there at all.
- Darcy
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On 08 Sep
A further question:
Is it possible to save and load custom reverb settings in the Windows
version?
- Darcy
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ok, i checked it out. here's what you'll find in the full score of this
masterpiece, written for and commissioned by the new york philharmonic. and
it's dedicated to leaonard bernstein.
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We would like to express our cordial thanks to the
At 07:51 PM 09/08/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
1) Can this be solved by downloaded and installing the latest version
of Ambience?
Doesn't look like it.
2) If not, do the presets work in GPO Studio (included with full GPO)?
I don't have full GPO.
Aaron.
So the Mahler was out of copyright I guess...
Boy, I really need to go back and listen to that again!
Ken
ok, i checked it out. here's what you'll find in the full score of this
masterpiece, written for and commissioned by the new york philharmonic. and
it's dedicated to leaonard
Darcy, take a look at the screen shot in the docs:
http://www.garritan.com/support/Ambience-readme.pdf
That's what my screen looks like -- no menu anywhere. Can you post a
Mac screenshot?
Aaron.
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At 07:57 PM 09/08/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Does the factory preset menu appear at all? On the VST version of
Ambience for Mac, it's located in the bottom-left corner. Is the menu
there, but empty? Are the choices grayed-out? Or is it not there at all.
I see no menu at all, and I've clicked
Hey Aaron,
Sent offlist -- Mac VST version. The Mac AU version -- the one that
works with Finale -- has a completely different UI, it looks nothing
like the Windows version.
- Darcy
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On 08 Sep 2005, at 8:28 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Darcy, take a
Darcy James Argue écrit:
I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy
accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not
carry through the measure
But what if you don't use parentheses? Then it would carry through.
One more reason for not having them...
Well, as they sayif it ain't broke...:-)
-K
To be honest (and to go off the beaten path a bit), I'm not altogether
certain that I even *want* Tiger. Quicksilver is better than
Spotlight, even though I'm stuck at a version Blacktree codenamed
Pariah due to my upgrade lag, and Konfabulator
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