Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: We just learned about a potential bug in using Finale's Reference Manual (or whatever it's called) for 2k8, from Daniel Spreadbury on one of the Sibelius Lists. I'll let David Bailey explain it, since he seems to understand it and I'm not sure I do, but it seems that

Re: [Finale] Chromatic Transposition chord symbol bug

2007-07-07 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Joe from MM Customer Support wrote: 2. (Chord transposition) While this is the normal functionality of the program (as Finale does not make assumptions for how chords are to be redefined/spelled when transposed in a staff with no tonal center), feel free to submit a

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
I thought the PDF files worked just fine for Finale's On-Line Documentation, and am bewildered as to why they would change. much easier to edit/update and to encode the massive amount of links and cross references, not to mention the ease with which you can control styles. it doesn't

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:30 AM 7/7/2007, dhbailey wrote: Daniel explained that the system they had been using to create HTML help files had several problems with it: 1) it required the use of Safari on Macs and IE on PCs and that wasn't changeable; and 2) it had lousy customer support and had major bugs which

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread dhbailey
shirling neueweise wrote: I thought the PDF files worked just fine for Finale's On-Line Documentation, and am bewildered as to why they would change. much easier to edit/update and to encode the massive amount of links and cross references, not to mention the ease with which you can

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Williams, Jim
Is it as easy to print out the manual in 2008's HTML format as it was in 2006's PDF format? Yes, some of us print it out. From: Aaron Sherber Sent: Sat 07-Jul-07 8:16 To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning At 05:30 AM 7/7/2007, dhbailey wrote:

[Finale] mid-measure clef question

2007-07-07 Thread Martin Banner
In Finale 2003a (on a Mac), I need two different mid-measure clefs, a tenor clef on the second beat of the measure, and a bass clef on the fourth beat of the measure. I have no problem inserting the first moveable clef. However, when I double in the measure to get the second one, a bass clef,

Re: [Finale] mid-measure clef question

2007-07-07 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 7, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Martin Banner wrote: In Finale 2003a (on a Mac), I need two different mid-measure clefs, a tenor clef on the second beat of the measure, and a bass clef on the fourth beat of the measure. I have no problem inserting the first moveable clef. However, when I

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
Is it as easy to print out the manual in 2008's HTML format as it was in 2006's PDF format? Yes, some of us print it out. you can always print from html pages, have you never tried? it is quite easy to create CSS styles (html) specificly for printing which give excellent output, much

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Richard Huggins
Dialog. Is it such a hard concept to adopt? MM seems to fear it, while Sibelius seems to grasp that in community both sides benefit. If MM does not at least monitor this and the Yahoo forum, it is stupid on a colossal scale. Not to participate is to fail to grasp that even in admitting

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Williams, Jim
From: shirling neueweise Sent: Sat 07-Jul-07 9:53 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning Is it as easy to print out the manual in 2008's HTML format as it was in 2006's PDF format? Yes, some of us print it out. you can always print from html pages, have you

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 5:30, dhbailey wrote: I simply asked Daniel why Sibelius had abandoned HTML in favor of PDF, especially in light of MakeMusic's abandoning PDF in favor of HTML for the help system in Fin2008. Daniel explained that the system they had been using to create HTML help files

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 12:42, shirling neueweise wrote: it doesn't sound like a bug at all, but a design decision. each browser reads the html differently (IE being the worst, refusing to follow much of the standard html protocol), but designers usually create different style sheets that are

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 10:29, Williams, Jim wrote: From: shirling neueweise Sent: Sat 07-Jul-07 9:53 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning Is it as easy to print out the manual in 2008's HTML format as it was in 2006's PDF format? Yes, some of us print it out. you

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Williams, Jim
Yes, but there have always been problems of pagination, right-hand text being cut off, etc. You must be using Internet Explorer -- only IE has these problems, as no other modern browser has them. Correct. Have I not heard that the 2008 manual requires IE7?

[Finale] Help from menu

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
If I click Help User Manual Table of concents, Finale opens a certain browser (NOT of MY choice), which reports: cannot find server. Is that stupid or is that stupid? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
Well, Microsoft's HTML Help has to be coded for a certain browser, as it runs using an embedded IE component for rendering. I don't know what it does on Mac. And the files are not HTML, but an encoded form or HTML that is nonstandard and specific to MS's proprietary CHM files. yes but you can

Re: [Finale] Help from menu

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
Never mind, I found it. I tend to get rather irritated by this Gate$. I wrote: If I click Help User Manual Table of concents, Finale opens a certain browser (NOT of MY choice), which reports: cannot find server. Is that stupid or is that stupid?

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 17:03, shirling neueweise wrote: [quoting me:] Well, Microsoft's HTML Help has to be coded for a certain browser, as it runs using an embedded IE component for rendering. I don't know what it does on Mac. And the files are not HTML, but an encoded form or HTML that is

[Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
Okay, next stupid question (probably). I think the blue of the selection tool is way too dark. Is there a place where I can change it to a lighter shade? (I have searched the help files for the word color, but I have found nothing on changing the colour of the selection tool.)

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
I think you're not talking about MS's HTML Help format at all, but HTML produced by MS products -- not the same thing at all. ah, yes we are talking about two different things. but it would seem that the old help files (PDF) were generated from MS docs, no? -- shirling neueweise ... new

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 17:25, shirling neueweise wrote: [quoting me:] I think you're not talking about MS's HTML Help format at all, but HTML produced by MS products -- not the same thing at all. ah, yes we are talking about two different things. but it would seem that the old help files (PDF)

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 7, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Okay, next stupid question (probably). I think the blue of the selection tool is way too dark. Is there a place where I can change it to a lighter shade? (I have searched the help files for the word color, but I have found nothing on

Re: [Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
Sorry to have wasted everyone's time on this. For some reason I had forgotten that when printing a booklet w.o a duplexer, the page listing needs to be pruned *in pairs*, not one page at a time. When I did it the right way, of course everything came out the way it ought to. Andrew Stiller

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
David H. Bailey wondered: I thought the PDF files worked just fine for Finale's On-Line Documentation, and am bewildered as to why they would change. And Les says: Simple!MM has been completely faithful to its admirable long-term policy of 1) ignoring bugs/problems hoping they'll (or

[Finale] Choice of browser`

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
Where do I tell Finale which browser to use? I hate IE. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
I haven't searched for the word colour yet. Would that help? :) Christopher Smith wrote: Hmm, I would have thought it would be under PreferencesProgram OptionsDisplay Colors (note the United-States-ian spelling), but there is nothing about the colour of the selection tool. I'm not sure

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 6, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: 7. 2-up printing seems to be broken. At least, I can't get it to work with my HP 5100. I had a similar problem in 2K7. The fix is to go into the Page Setup dialog and select Any Printer from the pop-up menu, rather than the name

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:47 AM 7/7/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Microsoft's HTML Help has to be coded for a certain browser, as it runs using an embedded IE component for rendering. This is not, I believe strict MS HTML Help. It's built using a product from MadCap Software (madcapsoftware.com). It works

RE: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:53 AM 7/7/2007, shirling neueweise wrote: Is it as easy to print out the manual in 2008's HTML format as it was in 2006's PDF format? Yes, some of us print it out. you can always print from html pages, have you never tried? But it is no longer as straightforward to print the equivalent

Re: [Finale] Choice of browser`

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:22 AM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: Where do I tell Finale which browser to use? I hate IE. We've been discussing this in the Potential bug warning thread (which really isn't about a potential bug). When you hit F1 from within Finale, the help file will always open in IE on Win and

Re: [Finale] Help from menu

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:27 AM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: If I click Help User Manual Table of concents, Finale opens a certain browser (NOT of MY choice), which reports: cannot find server. Is that stupid or is that stupid? It's true that when the help is opened from within Finale, it will always use IE

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:19 AM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: Okay, next stupid question (probably). I think the blue of the selection tool is way too dark. You're on Windows? Finale uses certain default highlighting colors assigned by the system. There is no way to change this from within Finale. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 12:30, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:47 AM 7/7/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Microsoft's HTML Help has to be coded for a certain browser, as it runs using an embedded IE component for rendering. This is not, I believe strict MS HTML Help. It either is or it isn't. If

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Christopher Smith
I doubt it. They use exclusively US spellings, like color throughout the documentation. C. On Jul 7, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: I haven't searched for the word colour yet. Would that help? :) Christopher Smith wrote: Hmm, I would have thought it would be under

Re: [Finale] mid-measure clef question

2007-07-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
In Finale 2003a (on a Mac), I need two different mid-measure clefs, a tenor clef on the second beat of the measure, and a bass clef on the fourth beat of the measure. I have no problem inserting the first moveable clef. However, when I double in the measure to get the second one, a bass

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2007 at 12:30, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:47 AM 7/7/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Microsoft's HTML Help has to be coded for a certain browser, as it runs using an embedded IE component for rendering. This is not, I believe strict MS HTML Help. It's built using a product

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:42 PM 7/7/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Jul 2007 at 12:30, Aaron Sherber wrote: This is not, I believe strict MS HTML Help. It either is or it isn't. Duh. My emphasis was unclear. I didn't mean that this might be loose MS HTML Help. I mean that it wasn't the MS flavor at all. As

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:55 PM 7/7/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: Meant to include these in my previous reply: Sorry -- your post crossed with my last one. However, I'm not convinced they were using the same tools, as the Help file for the Sib4 demo (which is all I have) has this for the GENERATOR meta tag:

Re: [Finale] Help from menu

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
That was an error on my side. I hadn't changed the path for the help files yet. By the way, the installer offered no installation options. We used to be able to choose from different kinds of installation. Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:27 AM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: If I click Help

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
So you are saying that it could be changed from within Windows? Why do I suddenly find the colour too dark? I can't remember it being so dark, strange. Aaron Sherber wrote: At 11:19 AM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: Okay, next stupid question (probably). I think the blue of the selection

Re: [Finale] Help from menu

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:07 PM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: By the way, the installer offered no installation options. We used to be able to choose from different kinds of installation. You still can. For me, the Windows installer shows the EULA, the install location screen, and then the 'Choose Components'

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:05 PM 7/7/2007, Barbara Touburg wrote: So you are saying that it could be changed from within Windows? Possibly, but I don't know the details of XP and Vista color schemes. (I'm on XP, but I'm running a custom Classic scheme.) Why do I suddenly find the colour too dark? I can't remember

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Barbara Touburg
I think I find it too dark because I can hardly see the contents of the selection anymore. Have they changed that then? I don't have F2007 running anymore, so I can't check. Aaron Sherber wrote: Is it a different color from the selection color in Fin2007? It's the same color on my system.

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-07 Thread John Howell
At 12:03 AM -0400 7/7/07, Christopher Smith wrote: Didn't he write quite a bit for valve trombone? Or some kind of weird hybrid piston-slide instrument? Kind of funny, because his parts are eminently playable on regular slide tenor and bass trombones (the stuff I've played of his,

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-07 Thread Raymond Horton
Given the amount of research Shifrin has done, together with the music of the Dvorak 8th symphony (quite nonidomatic for slide trombone) and other Dvorak excerpts, I'll accept it, at least until your paper comes out. g (BTW, is the slide trombone specialist ... named a permanent instructor

Re: [Finale] Choice of browser`

2007-07-07 Thread dhbailey
Barbara Touburg wrote: Where do I tell Finale which browser to use? I hate IE. That's just it -- apparently from within Finale, you have no choice. Trying to open the help file opens it in IE on PCs and Safari on Macs. But you can always open your preferred browser and then open the Finale

[Finale] The SPAM hiatus seems to be ended...

2007-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
Today tons of spam has come into my inbox, so I guess the spam hiatus that I wrote about a few weeks ago is over. *sigh* Fortunately, it's all on my old email addresses -- none of my new ones have yet been compromised [knock wood!]. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com

Re: [Finale] Colour of selection tool

2007-07-07 Thread Dan Carno
HI all, Let's agree on what we are talking about here. For me, the problem (Fin 2008) is not with the tool (icon) being too dark, it's any measures selected with the tool. I can't see what I have selected; on my screen the selection turns a very dark blue-green (Win 2000 Pro). Dan At