Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 22.11.2005 Godofredo Romero wrote: here is a suggestion - you can tell me I am crazy if you want -: impute the three voices and tie the middle one then in layer two impute only the middle voice and tie the notes, hide the stems in layer two and select and drag the tie from one of the ends

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-22 Thread Barbara Touburg
Could you tell us how you achieved that? Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Here's an image of that broken slur (expression using slur + small white rectangle) http://maltedmedia.com/images/brokenslur1.gif Dennis ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-22 Thread Godofredo Romero
a) imput the three voices in layer one ( a-b-c) b) with the tie tool make a tie of the notes that correspond to the "b" voice c) switch to layer two -- d) in layer two repeat the imput of the notes that correspond to voice "b" e) make a tie of the notes ("b") that you just put

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:47 PM 11/22/05 +0100, Barbara Touburg wrote: Could you tell us how you achieved that? Keep in mnd that this is not a friendly solution if you have to do a lot of them, because you'll need a new shape for every occasion. Here's how I do it -- best to use page view with the spacing already

[Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am sure I have asked this in the past, but I can't remember whether I succeeded and how: Is there a way to white out parts of ties, while leaving the stems and noteheads intact? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:44 PM 11/21/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to white out parts of ties, while leaving the stems and noteheads intact? Sure -- use some white out! No, seriously, I would try using some kind of expression with an enclosure, set to opaque. This will white out whatever is

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.11.2005 Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:44 PM 11/21/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to white out parts of ties, while leaving the stems and noteheads intact? Sure -- use some white out! No, seriously, I would try using some kind of expression with an enclosure, set to opaque.

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Nov 2005 at 20:57, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.11.2005 Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:44 PM 11/21/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is there a way to white out parts of ties, while leaving the stems and noteheads intact? Sure -- use some white out! No, seriously, I would try

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:57 PM 11/21/2005, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Unfortunately this won't work, it will white out the stem, but not the tie.  Sorry, you're right. It looks like it works until you get out of the expression tool, and then the slur pops through. Same happens if you position a white graphic over

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Godofredo Romero
please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. thank you Godofredo Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am sure I have asked this in the past, but I can't remember whether I succeeded and how: Is there

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Godofredo Romero / 2005/11/21 / 04:58 PM wrote: please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. I'd think it would be shape of white box with no frame. I use it for hiding time sig at the end of

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 5:58 PM -0400 11/21/05, Godofredo Romero wrote: please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. thank you It means to erase, or make invisible. The term comes from a product called White Out, a

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Hiroaki Honshuku: I use it for hiding time sig at the end of a line when following Coda has different tim sig (or is there any better way?). Measure Attributes: Hide Cautionary Clefs, Keys, and Time Sigs. I use this at ends of movements. ___

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Godofredo Romero
thank you but this doesn't answer my question , and I apologize for not being more explicit - I know what whiting out is and where the term derives from- what I would like to know is a) in what instances of a music part or score is it used b) what effect does it produced and c) which part of

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Robert Patterson / 2005/11/21 / 05:28 PM wrote: Measure Attributes: Hide Cautionary Clefs, Keys, and Time Sigs. Oh boy. After 17 years with Finale, I still amaze myself how much I don't know! Sigh. Thanks! -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: Godofredo Romero / 2005/11/21 / 04:58 PM wrote: please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. I'd think it would be shape of white box with no frame. I use it for

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Chuck Israels
On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:12 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Godofredo Romero / 2005/11/21 / 04:58 PM wrote: please pardon my ignorance but when you, or anyone else speak of whiting out parts of ties, what does that mean and in what instances is it used?.. I'd think it would be shape of white box

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.11.2005 Godofredo Romero wrote: thank you but this doesn't answer my question , and I apologize for not being more explicit - I know what whiting out is and where the term derives from- what I would like to know is a) in what instances of a music part or score is it used b) what

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Chuck Israels
Johannes, Might it be possible to kludge this with slur shapes? If playback were not an issue, that's the way I'd try it. There have been times that a tie into a second ending did not work as it was supposed to, and I had to use a slur backwards from a note with the slur ending in the

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:14 AM 11/22/05 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: In my particular case I have three voices in one staff, and the middle voice is tied over, while other voices have much shorter note values. The tie collides with notes, and there is simply no way to avoid it. So I would like to white out

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Godofredo Romero
here is a suggestion - you can tell me I am crazy if you want -: impute the three voices and tie the middle one then in layer two impute only the middle voice and tie the notes, hide the stems in layer two and select and drag the tie from one of the ends to wherever you feel is ok then go

Re: [Finale] whiteout ties

2005-11-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Here's an image of that broken slur (expression using slur + small white rectangle) http://maltedmedia.com/images/brokenslur1.gif Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale