Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread James E. Bailey
> The problem over here, in Italy, is that (since Napoleons domination on > Italy) actually, the sol-fa names are used to determine the absolute > pitches and, actually (since Napoleon), there's no use of letter names > for pitches and there's no application of relative or movable do system > in

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Giovanni Andreani
In my previous posting I quoted part of a message sining the authors name erroneously as Johan Howell instead of John Howell. Please accept my excuses. Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/fi

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Giovanni Andreani
>At 5:27 PM +0200 7/26/04, Giovanni Andreani wrote: >>you all probably already know that >>Italian musicians don't use alphabetical names for absolute pitches; we >>once did, up on a time, but alphabetical names unfortunately got >>substituted by the sol-fa nomenclature, which was a marvellous sys

Re: [Finale] Resizing notes - text

2004-07-26 Thread Jim and Pat Sodke
Brad Thanks - but I think you misunderstood my statement (sorry about that - it was poorly worded). When I said Mass edit changes both, I meant the size of the notes and lyrics, not the size of notes in two different layers. The solution I was looking for was to fix the text to a locked size. Th

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread John Howell
At 1:25 PM -0400 7/26/04, Raymond Horton wrote: Normally, no key should be listed on a tuba part. Agreed, but the players know! I happen to play a 3-valve Eb tuba in our community band, because that's the instrument I was able to borrow. Lowest legitimate note is an AA natural. You can tell i

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread John Howell
At 5:27 PM +0200 7/26/04, Giovanni Andreani wrote: you all probably already know that Italian musicians don't use alphabetical names for absolute pitches; we once did, up on a time, but alphabetical names unfortunately got substituted by the sol-fa nomenclature, which was a marvellous system (as f

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
It was clearer in the 18th century, when parts were not transposed but written in one of the appropriate 9 movable clefs. It's the 19th century publishers who confused things by transposing the parts. John Not true. First of all, trumpet and horn parts were transposed even in the seventeenth c

Re: [Finale] Repeat Question

2004-07-26 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hello, I don't generally care about playback but a student of mine does, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to do what he wants. He has a D.S. al Coda where the jump to the Coda happens *after* a first ending - second ending repeat. Everything is working fine excep

Re: [Finale] Repeat Question

2004-07-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Darcy James Argue wrote: Hello, I don't generally care about playback but a student of mine does, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to do what he wants. He has a D.S. al Coda where the jump to the Coda happens *after* a first ending - second ending repeat. Everything is working fine exce

[Finale] Repeat Question

2004-07-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hello, I don't generally care about playback but a student of mine does, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to do what he wants. He has a D.S. al Coda where the jump to the Coda happens *after* a first ending - second ending repeat. Everything is working fine except that, on the D.S. pass

Re: [Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 26.07.2004 19:44 Uhr, shirling & neueweise wrote > > johannes: >> What kind of Mac have you got? Does it have room for an extra HD? They are >> cheap these days. > > you mean to get one hard wired? i have a G4/400MHz/10G. Well, I am pretty sure you can put another disk inside the G4 box eas

Re: [Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
Jef, Fercrissakes, dump the Zip drive and get an external FW hard drive for backups. I just got a *160 GB* FW drive (far more room than I know what to do with -- yet) for $150. Backing up to Zip disk in this day and age is almost as bad -- and as unreliable -- as backing up to floppies. - Da

[Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
johannes: What kind of Mac have you got? Does it have room for an extra HD? They are cheap these days. you mean to get one hard wired? i have a G4/400MHz/10G. jef -- shirling & neueweise \/ new music notation specialists mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com __

[Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Javier Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If I were you I¥d try to sell the ZIP and the disks before they start to die (and they will). yeah, i usually take the zips elsewhere and burn them. although i have one zip that goes back to 1996 that has never failed (!), i do only use them for temp stor

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread John Howell
At 1:34 PM -0700 7/24/04, Michele Sharik wrote: John Howell wrote: (And of course current practice is to omit the key of the instrument anyway, at least in the band world: We know that Alto Sax is in Eb, Trumpet is in Bb, and Tuba is in Bb, so the pitch is not needed to identify them.) Question

[Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Lon Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you're new music notation specialists, why are you trying to use antiquated computer hardware and an antiquated operating system to do your work? check out the following and tell me if you think an "antiquated computer hardware and an antiquated operating s

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Raymond Horton
The pitch of some tubas is Bb (BBb). Some are C (CC), Eb, F, etc. But all are written in concert pitch, (except in the British Brass Band tradition, which writes for BBb and Eb in transposing treble clef.) The pitch of the instrument may not matter much to the composer/arranger, but it is vital

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Raymond Horton
One exception that euphoniumists run into are the Strauss "Tenor Tuba" parts in _Don Quixote_ and _Eine Heldenleben_, which are in Bb Bass Clef. This might be explained by the fact that Strauss wrote these originally for Wagner tuba, but later (in his additions to the Berlioz _Treatise on Instrum

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:43:42 -0400, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What matters is that the higher brass instruments > (trumpet, horn, fluegelhorn, etc.) tend to read from transposed parts, > while the lower brass instruments (trombone, euphonium, tuba, etc.) > tend to read from con

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 26 Jul 2004, at 07:32 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: We DON'T say the tuba in IN Bb, we only say it's a Bb tuba (I know, sounds like a word game!) But those terms are used interchangeably. "Trumpet in Bb" and "Bb Trumpet" refer to the same instrument; same with "Clarinet in Bb" and "Bb Clarine

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Giovanni Andreani
>We DON'T say the tuba in IN Bb, we only say it's a Bb tuba (I know, >sounds like a word game!) It means that the fundamental (open) note is >a Bb. There are C tubas, F tubas, and Eb tubas as well (at least!), >none of which read transposed parts; they all read in C bass clef >(except for Briti

Re: [Finale] Resizing notes - text

2004-07-26 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Jim wrote: > The notes and text are in layer two - Mass edit still changes both You can go to View > Show Active Layer only, and then Mass Edit changes will only affect the currently selected layer. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___

Re: [Finale] 2004c for mac

2004-07-26 Thread Allen Fisher
View-->Hide Guides If you want to not snap to them anymore, Edit-->Snap To Guides. On 7/26/04 6:41 AM, "Martin Banner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do I turn off guides? > > > > > Martin Banner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Finale mailing lis

Re: [Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
OK...I am still using OS 9.2 on my PowerComputing PowerCenter Pro 180. I bumped the computer up to a G3 and it works just fine for the kind of work I do. (Quintet, mostly) I installed OSX on my wife's iMac so that I could get a chance to see it in action. For me, OSX is too un-Mac like to be wor

[Finale] 2004c for mac

2004-07-26 Thread Martin Banner
How do I turn off guides? Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 24, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Michele Sharik wrote: Question: why do we say that the Tuba is in Bb, when it's actually in C. I mean, I know that the fundamental of the tuba's tube is Bb, but it's a C instrument, just like bassoon or cello, isn't it? (and unlike the other instruments you mentio

Re: [Finale] Placing codas, etc

2004-07-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 25, 2004, at 5:56 PM, Giz Bowe wrote: I can't get Finale to accept my offsets for coda or dal segno signs (sorry for the redundancy!). Using the Repeat tool, I click on a measure, select the sign or instruction, set the horizontal & vertical offsets, then click Select, only to find that F

Re: [Finale] Resizing notes - text

2004-07-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 25, 2004, at 3:26 PM, Burt Fenner wrote: In Lyrics > Edit Text > Text > Font, check Fixed Size under Effects.   BF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jim and Pat Sodke Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-26 Thread dhbailey
Michele Sharik wrote: John Howell wrote: (And of course current practice is to omit the key of the instrument anyway, at least in the band world: We know that Alto Sax is in Eb, Trumpet is in Bb, and Tuba is in Bb, so the pitch is not needed to identify them.) Question: why do we say that the

Re: [Finale] Re: No more OS9!

2004-07-26 Thread Javier Ruiz
If I were you I´d try to sell the ZIP and the disks before they start to die (and they will). A CD burner is less than 40 euros/bucks these days... But if you like to live dangerously... Javier > >> From: Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Just out of interest: What is keeping you in OS9?