David W. Fenton / 2005/07/30 / 05:54 PM wrote:
I would much rather see HP opened up so that one could tune the
parameters that are behind the scenes, rather than seeing black-box
enhancements specific to one set of samples.
I totally agree with this. More and more I feel NI wants to eliminate
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:04 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:56 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I have an enormous problem with the fact that the majority of my
upgrade dollars have gone to something which is problematic to use
at best (now we have to prepare THREE files
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO,
then?
1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly
*far* superior to the Finale SoundFont, especially the wind, ensemble
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
And does anyone fear that MakeMusic may have placed their bets on the
wrong horse in the sound samples race?
I'll raise my hand on this one.
I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge mistake
in including any such playback device.
I have
At 06:56 AM 7/30/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge mistake
in including any such playback device.
I agree with you.
The production of 'human playback' Midi was worthwhile, because it pretty
much covers the ground of how effective production
At 06:56 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote:
we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via
GPO and another playback file to share with others who don't have
machines powerful enough to use GPO.)
This does seem like sort of a problem.
For example, for my own use, I will
Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 06:56 AM 07/30/2005, dhbailey wrote:
we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for playback via
GPO and another playback file to share with others who don't have
machines powerful enough to use GPO.)
This does seem like sort of a problem.
For example,
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:56 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I have an enormous problem with the fact that the majority of my
upgrade dollars have gone to something which is problematic to use at
best (now we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for
playback via GPO and another playback file
dennis c. wrote:
dhbailey wrote:
In any event, the plug-ins for mid-measure repeats work fine, the
automatic adjustment of measure numbers when deleting a measure is
very nice, but hardly worth the $100 upgrade fee.
One wonders why you were in such a hurry to spend these 100 bucks. After
On 30 Jul 2005 at 7:37, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 06:56 AM 7/30/05 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
I'll go further and say that I think MakeMusic has made a huge
mistake in including any such playback device.
I agree with you.
The production of 'human playback' Midi was worthwhile, because
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 30 Jul 2005, at 6:56 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I have an enormous problem with the fact that the majority of my
upgrade dollars have gone to something which is problematic to use at
best (now we have to prepare THREE files -- one for printing, one for
playback via GPO
On Jul 30, 2005, at 2:44 PM, dhbailey wrote:n the past, even when there hasn't been much of great import touted in the upgrades, I have found each one I have purchased (every one since I started using version 3.5) to have had significant numbers of small improvements all through the program. I
On Jul 30, 2005, at 2:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:If you're going to use a different file for playback, why not just save your printable score as MIDI then use a sequencer to tweak playback? Why use Finale at all for creating a playback file if you're going to fork your playback from the
I'll bet Gary Garritan is smiling like the Cheshire Cat over that bit
of marketing. He gets a bunch of us to buy GPO for a cut rate, and
we're all thinking we're getting this great bargain. Then, a month
later, MakeMusic announces that GPO is rolled into the next upgrade
of Finale. Well,
There is certainly something to what you say. Several years ago I gave
my daughter my PC I got in 1997 with a Turtle Beach Pinnacle card. That
card had some great sounds - really fine piano, some very good wws,
etc. The next several years were a real step backward, and I never
understood
Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This doesn't
seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use Hyperscribe with GPO.
Is there any practical way to convert an older score to use GPO? I read
the documentation on this and the procedure is truly horrendous. It
An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more like it.
Jerry
On 29-Jul-05, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This
doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use
Hyperscribe with GPO.
Is there any practical way
On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Anybody have success playing click tracks while using GPO? This
doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it impossible to use
Hyperscribe with GPO.
Is there any practical way to convert an older score to use GPO? I
read the
Gerald Berg wrote:
An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more like it.
Jerry
I meant per track. :)
Really, that is about the crappiest integration I have seen in the
past 15 years. It took me 20 minutes just to register the GPO feature.
The GPO website is pushing the frontiers of
Christopher Smith wrote:
I think the best way is to copy the old score into a newly-created
GPO-friendly template. Obviously, there would be WAY too many tweaks
to make it look good, too, so it would just be for playback. For the
expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the
On Jul 29, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
When the sounds work, they are nice, but one can achieve nearly the
same results with a decent set of sound fonts in a Soundblaster Live
card.
I couldn't address that, as I am on a Mac.
I haven't spent enough time with this new
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the
expressions that were imported into the template one by one,
subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native to the template,
which is what would take the time.
On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the
expressions that were imported into the template one by one,
subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native
On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too?
They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided you have
Optimized for GPO checked).
2k6 has an auto-detect option for GPO, making it unnecessary to
change
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too?
They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided you have
Optimized for GPO checked).
2k6 has an auto-detect option for GPO, making
There is a clave sound file.
Jerry
On 29-Jul-05, at 1:58 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 12:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
And dynamics? Tempo markings? Are they handled automatically, too?
They were handled automatically in 2k5 as well (provided
Darcy James Argue wrote:
However, one annoyance is that if you have a Fin2k4 or 2k5 file with
expressions that *are* defined for keyswitching during playback, you
must set the playback options to None for Finale 2k6 (or, at least,
the ones Human Playback recognizes). This can get a bit
On 29 Jul 2005 at 11:02, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For the expressions to playback, you would have to delete all the
expressions that were imported into the template one by one,
subsituting the ones that DO playback that are native
On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
That's a nice thing, though I'd never found it too hard to deal with
(arco cello always worked fine for me)
It's much nicer not to have to assign three different versions of
arco and pizz etc to three different metatools each. (For mute
On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
However, one annoyance is that if you have a Fin2k4 or 2k5 file with
expressions that *are* defined for keyswitching during playback, you
must set the playback options to None for Finale 2k6 (or, at
On 29 Jul 2005 at 19:48, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 6:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
That's a nice thing, though I'd never found it too hard to deal with
(arco cello always worked fine for me)
It's much nicer not to have to assign three different versions of
arco and
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO,
then?
1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly
*far* superior to the Finale SoundFont, especially the wind, ensemble
strings, and percussion
On 29 Jul 2005 at 20:26, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
If HP works with any GM synthesizer, what's the advantage of GPO,
then?
1) Apparently opinions differ here, but I think GPO sounds are clearly
*far* superior to the Finale SoundFont,
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
2) GPO + Human Playback support numerous playing techniques not
included in the Finale SoundFont, including true legato on slurs,
fluttertongue and n.v. flutes, mutes for all brass (except tuba),
muted strings, recorded string trills and
On 29 Jul 2005 at 21:18, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
2) GPO + Human Playback support numerous playing techniques not
included in the Finale SoundFont, including true legato on slurs,
fluttertongue and n.v. flutes, mutes for all brass
On 29 Jul 2005, at 9:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
So, by not using the GPO that comes with Finale, you're sacrificing a
bunch of ease-of-use features associated with HP.
Correct -- but HP is a *lot* more than just GPO integration!
Got it -- key velocity and volume work the way they always
--- Gerald Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An hour! Should I be so lucky. A month is more
like it.
Jerry
On 29-Jul-05, at 9:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Anybody have success playing click tracks while
using GPO? This
doesn't seem to work for me, which makes it
impossible to use
Tyler,
The half an hour I cited includes waiting for the patches to load
(which can take quite some time, at least on Mac). You also have to
ratchet down the polyphony on each instrument (especially percussion,
strings, keyboard, etc), and because of a stupid bug in the NI player,
you often
--- Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tyler,
The half an hour I cited includes waiting for the
patches to load
(which can take quite some time, at least on Mac).
You also have to
ratchet down the polyphony on each instrument
(especially percussion,
strings, keyboard,
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