Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/28/2011 4:58 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 28 Jul 2011 at 7:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > >> On 7/28/2011 3:44 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: >>> Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go >>> 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. >> >> Please not that Sib is not excl

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jul 2011 at 14:36, David H. Bailey wrote: > It will be interesting come the Fall when Finale finally gets their > new version out the door, to see whether Finale's become 64-bit and > has other modernization features. The only benefit of 64-bit for Finale on Windows would be, I think, in a

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2011 at 17:50, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 7/28/2011 5:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2011 at 17:25, David H. Bailey wrote: > > > >> On 7/28/2011 4:57 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > >>> On 28 Jul 2011 at 9:44, Jari Williamsson wrote: > >>> > On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTT

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/28/2011 5:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 28 Jul 2011 at 17:25, David H. Bailey wrote: > >> On 7/28/2011 4:57 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >>> On 28 Jul 2011 at 9:44, Jari Williamsson wrote: >>> On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: > Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibel

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2011 at 7:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > On 7/28/2011 3:44 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > > Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go > > 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. > > Please not that Sib is not exclusively 64-bit, at least not on > Windows. On my 6

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2011 at 17:25, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 7/28/2011 4:57 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2011 at 9:44, Jari Williamsson wrote: > > > >> On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: > >>> Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: > >> > >> Since Sib is on a 2-year release

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/28/2011 4:57 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 28 Jul 2011 at 9:44, Jari Williamsson wrote: > >> On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: >>> Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: >> >> Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go >> 64-bit with this releas

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jul 2011 at 9:44, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: > > Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: > > Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go > 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. Er, what? There's nothing in th

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jul 2011 at 13:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: > Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: > > http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/7/system_requirements.html The requirement for Windows 7 SP1 is bogus, I'm sure. If they support Vista, they have to support intervening versions of

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread John Howell
At 8:02 PM +0200 7/28/11, Jari Williamsson wrote: >On 2011-07-28 19:42, John Howell wrote: > >> And please note that Sib is not necessarily on a >> 2-year release schedule. > >Which version during the last 10 years was not released timely within >the 2-year release period? I honestly don't have

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-07-28 19:42, John Howell wrote: > And please note that Sib is not necessarily on a > 2-year release schedule. Which version during the last 10 years was not released timely within the 2-year release period? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread John Howell
At 7:41 AM -0400 7/28/11, Aaron Sherber wrote: >On 7/28/2011 3:44 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: >> Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go >> 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. > >Please not that Sib is not exclusively 64-bit, at least not on Windows. >On my 64-b

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 7/28/2011 3:44 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go > 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. Please not that Sib is not exclusively 64-bit, at least not on Windows. On my 64-bit Windows 7 systej, the demo installed both a 64-bit

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Except there is no native way to import finale files. If they want > finale users that bad, then they should have Sibelius able to open up > to finale 2011 files right from the program. They used to, I believe, > have something like this in a previous version Which is true

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/27/2011 9:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Except there is no native way to import finale files. If they want > finale users that bad, then they should have Sibelius able to open up > to finale 2011 files right from the program. They used to, I believe, > have something like this in a previous v

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-28 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2011-07-27 21:34, Wade KOTTER wrote: > Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: Since Sib is on a 2-year release schedule, they had the choice to go 64-bit with this release or wait 2 years. I think they made the right decision, since (I believe) much of the school and home/hobby

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Except there is no native way to import finale files. If they want finale users that bad, then they should have Sibelius able to open up to finale 2011 files right from the program. They used to, I believe, have something like this in a previous version Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Mu

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Williams, Jim
I think it's user-definable! file>preferences>to enter a quarter note (crochet) type, then select one of the radio buttons Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listi

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 7/27/2011 8:41 PM, Matthew Hindson Gma wrote: > There is a place for us Speedy refugees now it seems. *Almost*. My entry method of choice in Finale is Speedy with the computer keyboard. The new Sib note entry method does allow you to use A-J as notes C-B, so no more hunting and pecking for th

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Matthew, Really? WOW. You mean 5 = quarter note instead of the longstanding Sib standard of 4 = quarter note? I'm actually not even sure how I feel about that. Seems like it could be a bit confusing for new Sibelius users who might want to experiment with both rhythm-then-pitch vs. pitch-t

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Matthew Hindson Gma
If you watch the video on the Sibelius site directed at Finale users, when changing from rhythm-before-pitch to pitch-before-rhythm, the note entry palette changes to the same values we are used to in Speedy. Sibelius have really gone to a lot of trouble to accommodate other ways of working.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi John, I meant an equivalent to Finale's Scroll View, i.e. Panorama. I'm aware that feature was introduced in an earlier version. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 27 Jul 2011, at 8:25 PM, John Howell wrote: > At 3:00 PM -0400 7/27/11, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread John Howell
At 2:36 PM -0400 7/27/11, David H. Bailey wrote: > >It will be interesting come the Fall when Finale finally gets their new >version out the door, to see whether Finale's become 64-bit and has >other modernization features. I hope so. Interesting to note that both Sibelius and Finale seem to hav

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Matthew Hindson Gma
I have been banging on about note-before-rhythm to them for years now, as I'm sure many others here have too. Now at last I can give Sibelius a red hot go. Will be interested to see how resizeable the dialog boxes too. Some of them are currently awful and Finale has this all over Sibelius. The

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Wade KOTTER
Note the minimum systems requirements for Sibelius 7: http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/7/system_requirements.html Wade >>> "David H. Bailey" 07/27/11 12:50 PM >>> Sibelius 7 has been announced, to start shipping on August 11th. There are many changes, but two of particular importanc

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 7/27/2011 2:36 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > 2) note entry will now have allow pitch-first/rhythm-second in addition > to the older rhythm-first/pitch-second that so many Finale users have > found frustrating. I echo Darcy: This is huge. (The other bits too, but for me primarily this.) I'm down

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Or, rather: "FIXES TO the three fundamental UI problems... " Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 27 Jul 2011, at 3:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > The three fundamental UI problems I had with Sibelius (lack of scroll view, > no pitch-before-rhythm entry, and those

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all, This is huge. The three fundamental UI problems I had with Sibelius (lack of scroll view, no pitch-before-rhythm entry, and those awful modal tool palettes) have now all been implemented. I can't see myself switching entirely unless my hand was forced, but it's encouraging that Sibeliu

[Finale] Sibelius 7 has been announced, to ship on August 11th.

2011-07-27 Thread David H. Bailey
Sibelius 7 has been announced, to start shipping on August 11th. There are many changes, but two of particular importance to Finale users are: 1) export of MusicXML is now built-in to Sibelius, so it can now import and export (previously export was only with the extra-cost Dolet plugin) so fil