Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread Peter Taylor
I have the corrected proofs back. Only a very few changes, mainly punctuation to comply with the approved printed text. However, there's another question on which I'd like your collective wisdom please... Should a punctuation mark be after a word or at the end of the extension line? : a)

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Smith
A) is definitely in agreement with common practice. B) is actually cited as wrong by most of my sources. Christopher On Tue Oct 4, at TuesdayOct 4 5:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: I have the corrected proofs back. Only a very few changes, mainly punctuation to comply with the approved printed

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread John Howell
At 10:21 AM +0100 10/4/11, Peter Taylor wrote: I have the corrected proofs back. Only a very few changes, mainly punctuation to comply with the approved printed text. However, there's another question on which I'd like your collective wisdom please... Should a punctuation mark be after a word

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 4, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: Should a punctuation mark be after a word or at the end of the extension line? : a) peace; __ or b) peace __ ; There is some tradition for both, but (a) is more common in every era and near-universal now. All the

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Peter Taylor wrote: Should a punctuation mark be after a word or at the end of the extension line? : a) peace; __ or b) peace __ ; For whatever my opinion might be worth, if the extension is only an extension, I prefer the first option; where the word extension is

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-10-04 Thread Peter Taylor
Thankyou everyone, that's unanimous. The music will be off to the printers in the morning. Peter From: Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net On Oct 4, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: Should a punctuation mark be after a word or at the end of the extension line? : a) peace; __

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Peter This is how I'd approach your situation. I do concur with those who advise that this is a non-standard usage of word extensions, but I can also perceive that they may not, in fact, be extensions, but instead have another use. Therfore, first verify with your client exactly why she has

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Taylor
Just an update for those who were kind enough to help. I took the proofs to show the composer today and when I showed her the bar in question she said, Oh, you mean THAT bar. Those lines are to indicate where words have been missed out. The priest sings a long sentence here, and there's no

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread Lawrence Yates
I once spent almost a whole weekend producing a spreadsheet for someone who had asked for a spreadsheet. Turned out he didn't know what a spreadsheet was but thought using the word made him sound clever. Same person had a virus on his computer the first day he had it. He didn't know what a

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: Just an update for those who were kind enough to help. I took the proofs to show the composer today and when I showed her the bar in question she said, Oh, you mean THAT bar. Those lines are to indicate where words have been missed out.

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread John Howell
At 5:32 PM +0100 9/28/11, Peter Taylor wrote: Just an update for those who were kind enough to help. I took the proofs to show the composer today and when I showed her the bar in question she said, Oh, you mean THAT bar. Those lines are to indicate where words have been missed out. The priest

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Taylor
From: Mark D Lew In that case I would use ellipses instead of underscores. Simple. Done! Thanks. John, thanks but I'm on Windows. An ellispis is Alt+0133 on the num pad. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
I have a problem I've never had to deal with before. I'm using WinFin 2005. I know how to insert word extensions that cover two or more notes. How do you insert one within the span of one note? (The opposite of a melisma). I'm working on a choral score for a Mass. One bar contains a breve

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Lawrence Yates
Can you not do this with an underscore on the keyboard? On 27 September 2011 16:45, Peter Taylor pe...@euphonium.plus.com wrote: | ___ and lead us to _ e | ternal (ternal being in the next bar). My client has hand-drawn extension lines on her m/s score before and and

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: I have a problem I've never had to deal with before. I'm using WinFin 2005. I know how to insert word extensions that cover two or more notes. How do you insert one within the span of one note? (The opposite of a melisma). I'm

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question Can you not do this with an underscore on the keyboard? Thank you Lawrence. I did try that but the moment you

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Dean M. Estabrook d.e...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question The perfect drive..a diminishing sphere of white impaling the azure heavens in a graceful elliptic

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread christopher.smith
a Smart line manually. I don't recommend either solution, as it is incorrect notation and will just generate useless questions in rehearsal. Christopher - Original Message - From: Dean M. Estabrook d.e...@comcast.net Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 pm Subject: Re: [Finale] Word

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Howard Weiner
I would switch to another level, fill the bar with, say, eighth notes, enter the text where I want it (including word extensions), hide the notes, and then switch back to the original level. Howard On 27.09.2011 17:45, Peter Taylor wrote: I have a problem I've never had to deal with

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Howard Weiner
On 27.09.2011 20:45, Howard Weiner wrote: I would switch to another level, fill the bar with, say, eighth notes, enter the text where I want it (including word extensions), hide the notes, and then switch back to the original level. I of course meant layer. Sorry! Howard Howard On

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Wade KOTTER
To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question The perfect drive..a diminishing sphere of white impaling the azure heavens in a graceful ellipticheight and distance vying for supremacy..compatriot's jowls lax, eyes huge

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Harold Owen
Peter. In chant notation when several syllables are to be chanted on a single tone, no extensions are needed. If the choir sings a sustained chord (or unison} against a cantor or priest, there should still be no word extensions. Hal Owen Can you not do this with an underscore on the

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Mark D Lew
christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: To Peter, most likely your client misunderstands the use of word extensions. They should only be used for non-hyphenated syllables under more than one notehead. You should correct that in your work for him. But if you HAD to, just click Adjust Word

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: christopher.sm...@videotron.ca To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question To Peter, most likely your client misunderstands the use of word extensions. They should only be used for non

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Howard Weiner h.wei...@online.de To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question I would switch to another level, fill the bar with, say, eighth notes, enter the text where I want it (including word

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Harold Owen hjo...@uoregon.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Word extension question Peter. In chant notation when several syllables are to be chanted on a single tone, no extensions are needed

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net I don't agree with that. I understand that the standard is to only use a word extension when a syllable continues to another note, but in a situation where one voice has a long whole note while others are doing something

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread John Howell
At 9:48 PM +0100 9/27/11, Peter Taylor wrote: Out of interest, would word extensions be correct if you wanted to pinpoint words to certain notes in an operatic cadenza? I've always done that without any queries. Word extension are always correct for melismas, and I would always add slurs as

Re: [Finale] Word extension question

2011-09-27 Thread John Howell
At 4:45 PM +0100 9/27/11, Peter Taylor wrote: I have a problem I've never had to deal with before. I'm using WinFin 2005. I know how to insert word extensions that cover two or more notes. How do you insert one within the span of one note? (The opposite of a melisma). I'm working on a choral