Oh, I see, maybe you are talking about the lower left hand corner?
I just tried changing it to 2001-2003, but it messes up the width of
the left hand column...
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On Jan 13,2003 15:44:15 -0600, Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote:
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 20:34 US/Eastern, Carsten Klapp wrote:
Hi All,
Aside from these directory name issues I have a start on some perl
5.8 info files
On Jan 13,2003 16:52:26 -0500, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Monday, Jan 13, 2003, at 08:56 US/Eastern, David R. Morrison wrote:
Oh, I see, maybe you are talking about the lower left hand corner?
I just tried changing it to 2001-2003, but it messes up the width of
the left hand
Just to clarify the situation a bit more:
If the software you are packaging makes use of the Fink package foo
whenever foo is present, and if you have no way to disable it from making
use of foo, then you must list foo as a dependency.
This is the only way we have of guaranteeing that every Fink
Martin,
My understanding is that the following upgrade path:
XFree86-4.2 or Fink-4.2/ threaded-version / XFree86-4.3 or Fink-4.3
is expected to work just fine.
However, as has become apparent this week, the libraries shipped by Apple
are not binary compatible with other versions of the
I am creating rev. 2 of your package with the dependency on dlcompat.
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Let me jump back in one more time regarding multiple versions of perl module
packages.
There is a nifty system for emacs versions in Debian, which has been mostly
implemented in Fink (except that not every package follows it), in which
various files are registered as emacs source files and then
Hi Jared. Thanks for your interest in making Fink packages; we definitely
need more people who want to do that!
The procedure is, once your submission to the package submission tracker
meets Fink's standards, one of the Fink developers will add it to the
unstable tree. (Sometimes this takes a
Dear fink developers,
The version of system-xfree86 in the 0.5.0a distribution has Maintainer:
None [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thus, a user who tries to
install system-xfree86 with FinkCommander (without reading all of
the instructions) and who is then nice enough to send feedback about
the problem,
Please carefully follow the instructions at
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#apple-binary
-- Dave
On Jan 11,2003 11:14:24 -0500, Dan Sauve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
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Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution version: 0.5.0a
Mac OS X version: 10.2.3
July 2002
You probably need to be running the preprocessor with the -no-cpp-precomp
flag. Try setting
CPPFLAGS = -no-cpp-precomp
-- Dave
On Jan 12,2003 08:25:08 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Hi all,
I am the author of a package which uses FFTW and I OSX, I was hoping
to use
On Jan 10,2003 12:19:30 -0600, Kris Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink.
Kris
It's kind of cool, actually... He has done Mac OS 9 development, and he has a
link to our project at the bottom of his page.
fink.net seems to belong to
Here are a few relevant posts:
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg87083.html
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06039.html
and, someone who implemented this, more or less...
http://maikimo.net/radio/stories/2002/11/23/buildingperl580modperlapac.html
We also need to look at the standard instructions for
Thanks for all of your efforts in generating feedback, and your long list
of packages which you believe are suitable to move to the stable tree.
However, you may *not* move my gmp-4.1.1-1 package to the stable tree.
Although it compiles OK, it has problems when running and is definitely not
Giulio Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure if I've got the right mailing-list, or if this issue is
already known about, but here goes :)
I've just tried to install the openh323 pwlib packages, and both
failed, as the files required don't exist on the website
On Jan 9,2003 15:01:16 +0100, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
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I've no problem in moving gnuplot-py to stable, but, as pointed out by
David Morrison, I've not CVS access commit. So you should do it for me.
Alright, here is how I shall
If you are using X11.app, you need to carefully follow the instructions at
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#apple-binary
-- Dave
On Jan 9,2003 12:29:47 -0500, Ahron Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
cant seem to install
--
Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution
Dear Fink users,
Although not mentioned on Apple's website anyplace I can find, the ReadMe.rtf
for Apple's X11.app informs us about a mailing list devoted to Apple's X11.
You can subscribe to this list at
http://www.lists.apple.com/x11-users
Questions and comments about how to install X11.app
You need to install system-xfree86-4.2-3, the latest version.
There was a problem earlier today with installing this using the binary
install, but the problem has been fixed.
sudo apt-get update
followed by
sudo apt-get install system-xfree86
should work.
-- Dave
On Jan 8,2003
The newest version of system-xfree86, required for use with Apple's X11,
is now available in binary as well as source form.
Binary users should run sudo apt-get update prior to following the
instructions on Fink's website. Source users should run fink selfupdate-cvs
prior to following the
Another relevant link, which may indicate which way the wind is blowing,
long-term:
http://www.opendarwin.org/projects/darwinports/en/x11.php
-- Dave
On Jan 7,2003 19:34:12 +, Finlay Dobbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/
Just thought y'all should know :-)
Robert Isenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I hope mailing this list is the correct place, but I've tried to email
the maintainer of the gtk+2 package, but I get an automatic email back
from his email provider saying that he is over his quota, so it won't
receive the message!!!
I'm
Dear Fink developers,
I'd like to make a fink (package manager) release quite soon. Max seems to
be busy with other things, so I'm going to do this myself.
Just an update here. Indeed there is one bug in fink-cvs which is not
present in fink-0.11.1, so I'm going to fix that before I release.
Dear Fink developers,
I'd like to make a fink (package manager) release quite soon. Max seems to
be busy with other things, so I'm going to do this myself.
When I brought this up a few weeks ago, Ben Hines objected that there are
two bad bugs in the package manager right now. One of these I
Daniel Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
I want to make the postfix package track releases and deprecate
postfix-release. There are a couple of problems with this, which I've
already mailed the list about (Upgrading postfix):
1) postfix uses MMDD versioning schemes, but the
As you can learn at
http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/gnupg
the gnupg package, version 1.2.1, is in the unstable tree under Jaguar.
The maintainer and his email address are also listed there; I'm sure that
if you test it successfully, he will be happy to hear about it so that
he can
I'm not sure if I made clear what the fvwm2 problem was.
Sure, there was one set of problems that was easy to spot and was cured
by reverting the -isystem flag.
But there is another problem, which I haven't actually tracked down, in
which some of the files in the fvwm2 package don't build when
Ben: If you and Justin will verify that you have built every package
currently in stable with the -isystem flag enabled, and there are no
problems with any of them, then I don't object to including that flag
in the next release. (I hadn't heard anyone make as strong a claim
as that about having
The dylib files you found are in the package libgnomeui2-shlibs. The ones
you are missing are in the package libgnomeui2-dev (that's where we keep
both the headers and the symbolic links). When you make a Fink package
depending on this library, you specify:
Depends: libgnomeui2-shlibs
Le mardi, 17 déc 2002, à 22:24 Europe/Paris, David R. Morrison a écrit
:
A user is having trouble compling my xdvi package. I don't recognize
this
symbol. I asked which xfree86 version he has installed, and it turns
out to
be the threaded version. Could that be the culprit? (I have
Please help me review and test the new upgrade matrix, now posted on Fink's
website (but not yet announced on the front page -- deliberately).
A few comments:
1) I've tested this starting with many installers between 0.3.0 and 0.4.0,
all of which are still available for download (although the
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as documentation goes, there are now three active documentation
writers for Fink that I'm aware of. The first of these, Alexander
Hansen,
brings to the task many months of faithfully answering questions on the
user list, and bringing those
here's someone having trouble with my new upgrade instructions, and I can't
figure out why. Any ideas?
-- Dave
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:02:38 -0500
From: Paul Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fink install errors
I tried
I propose the creation of a new package category libs/obsolete.
This will be the place that we put a package libfoo-shlibs which we are
only keeping around for backward compatibility, for folks that have
something compiled against the old library. The headers and the key
/sw/lib/libfoo.dylib
One thing I've run into with the here-document parsing: if there is any
whitespace AFTER , on the same line, it won't be recognized as closing
the here-document.
HTH,
Dave
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Ben, I've been working on it today. There are some problems which I would
be happy to discuss with someone. Unfortunately I can't get on IRC right
now -- I'll try again in a bit.
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Dear Fink developers,
As another step towards finishing the 10.1 - 10.2 transition, I've put
the remaining 10.1 Fink packages which aren't yet in 10.2 onto the package
request tracker. I assigned each package to it's original maintainer,
but of course, anybody should feel free to work on these!
I agree, it would be good to have a mechanism to query users in this way,
when there is a decision to be made during an upgrade.
It's a bit hard to see how we would implement that, though, with the current
Fink structure. About the best that could be done would be some kind of
pre-install script
Ben, don't we have to do something about that new environment variable,
whatever it is, before we get users to upgrade? (I can't recall and
haven't installed the new tools yet myself.)
This might require the release of a new version of the package manager,
which sets that environment variable?
After some discussion on #fink this morning, we arrived at a strategy for
handling the MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET environment variable.
Seems that this has been present since the July developer tools, and was
defaulting to 10.1. In the near future, the compiler will start issuing
warnings when
I will present a third way of looking at it: if you set this flag at 10.2,
you change the compiled binaries and hence the debs. Do we want to violate
long-standing Fink policy by doing this without changing version/revision
numbers?
-- Dave
I would like to thank all of you for your assistance in implementing the
most recent phase of the shared libraries project. By now, virtually
all packages which contain .dylib's also have the Shlibs: field which
declares those .dylib's, and virtually all of the Shlibs fields use the
revised
Hi Folks.
I'd like to add to the Fink website a brief explanation that a small number
of the 0.5.0a-stable packages can not be distributed in binary form, and
that users who want them should consult the license first and then compile
them from source if they are eligible to do so. This would
Shouldn't the order on the pdb web pages be: unstable, stable, 0.5.0a, 0.4.1?
(I think that's what it was for a while yesterday, but now 0.4.1 is coming
before 0.5.0a).
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Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:55 Uhr +0100 08.12.2002, Martin Costabel wrote:
In the package database on the fink web site, there are still
package descriptions for xfree86-rootless and xfree86-server,
although these packages are marked as Not present in all
distributions.
I
Chris Leishman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 03:56 AM, Ben Hines wrote:
snip
Don't. Leave it as 10.2. There are NO binaries for 10.2 yet which is
why it is 404. Currently they are pointing at 10.1 binaries, many of
which will not even work.
It will be
Jeremy Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to follow up on this, I've got a question for the other
developers. If, say, gnomemm has BuildDepends on gnome-libs-dev and
gnome-libs, should it also depend on gnome-libs? Would this be the same
for gtkmm, since gnomemm has a BuildDepend on
Dear fink-devel folks,
As some of you are aware, sourcefiles for the 0.5.0 distribution were put
up at sourceforge around 10 days ago, and were publically accessible for
a day or less. (They are still accessible, but there is no longer a URL
which points to them.)
The actual 0.5.0 distribution
I made a branch for fink-0.11.1 development, and I'll merge it back to
the main tree. However, I've run out of time today: have to go back
to my cold house with no power and no phone before the dusk-to-dawn
curfew kicks in (we had an ice storm here, for those who didn't hear).
Just wanted to
One thing which I forgot to mention: When I initially modified the update
procedure and some related things, I put in a postinstall script for Fink.
This was unfortunately not included when fink-0.11.0 was released, but
it's important that it be included, because among other things, it
sets a
Let me briefly explain what the change in update procedure and the bindist
will do, to see if there is any objection to the strategy I have chosen.
As of 10.2, we store package descriptions in the CVS module dists rather
than the CVS module packages. Although it would be possible to create
a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, I see. Do you recomened downgrading to 0.11.0 or will you update
gd2?
Thanks, Chris.
On Dienstag, Dezember 3, 2002, at 12:29 Uhr, David R. Morrison wrote:
Yes, it doesn't compile using the CVS version of the fink package
manager.
It will compile under
Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 05:32 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
There are a handful of packages having trouble with fink-from-CVS, and
the folks working on the new fink haven't yet communicated to the rest
of us how to fix our packages.
Hrm
P.S. Since I already have CPPFLAGS set in this package, when I am correcting
it, do I put the new stuff before or after the flag I already set?
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There are two different things which are meant by Fink from CVS. When
you run fink --version you will see separate numbers reported for the
Package manager and the Distribution.
Stable packages are known to work if you are using a *released* version
of the Package manager. That means Package
Gerben Wierda also contacted me privately about removing his name from
Fink's teTeX distribution, or at least clearly indicating that he no
longer supports the ancient version that Fink synced with. I have
modified the Fink package descriptions, and the README in Fink's tetex-macosx
package, in
Perhaps we could sync with a newer version. :) I'd rather not have
everyone hate fink.
Wierda's strategy is to create a teTeX distribution with an easy-to-use
installer, but only distribute it in binary form. Figuring out how to
stay in sync with him is not easy, and it's something he wasn't
The download URL for texinfo-4.2 was changed several days ago. Please run
fink selfupdate-cvs to get an updated version of the fink .info file for
this package, which will find the source at the correct location.
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Seems to me that sourceforge is serving our needs quite well, and I for one
am proud that we were selected as their project of the month.
That being said, the biggest need that we have IMO is for more volunteers,
since there are a number of tasks that aren't get done as regularly or
as
Regarding sourceforge:
1) Sourceforge has an extensive set of mirrors, which the fink bindist
could be taking advantage of, I'm pretty sure, although probably to do
this we need another configuration setting someplace.
2) It's probably also possible to allow others to mirror the bindist.
At the
The discussion earlier, plus some private emails I received, got me thinking
some more about what Fink needs at this point.
Actually, it's not *just* that we need volunteers; we need a more effective
way of using the talents of people who are willing to volunteer.
Just to give one example: the
The code freeze is lifted. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Let me urge you again, if you need to make changes in 10.2/stable during
this code freeze, to contact me about it.
Thanks,
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Peter and I realized today that his dlcompat package needs a splitoff
version. This has now been put into the 10.2/unstable tree, and at the
same time, dlcompat-dev was added as a BuildDepends in many packages, but
only in the unstable tree.
Please help us test this, so that we can move it to
Well, after thinking about this for a few hours, I've reached the opposite
conclusion. I think we will have a more powerful system if we change the
format of the Shlibs field to include the compatibility version.
Here's how it would work (very similar to debian, actually: see
How about
if [ f %p/sbin/install-info ] ; then %p/sbin/install-info foo
in the scripts? I guess the post-remove script would also need to test if
the thing was installed, (unless the install-info -remove routine just issues
a warning if the thing wasn't found).
-- Dave
Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 11:26 Uhr -0500 15.11.2002, David R. Morrison wrote:
How about
if [ f %p/sbin/install-info ] ; then %p/sbin/install-info foo
in the scripts? I guess the post-remove script would also need to test if
the thing was installed, (unless the install
Has anyone been able to build openldap-ssl under 10.2? I can't get it to
build... But if you have it, I'd appreciate it if somebody could send
me the deb files (for both openldap-ssl and openldap-ssl-shlibs).
Thanks,
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I plan to produce the 0.5.0 distribution beginning next Monday, November 18.
If you have anything to move to stable, please do so prior to Monday. The
10.2/stable tree will be frozen several days as the distribution is prepared.
-- Dave
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before the package could be included in Fink. We try to make sure that
all of the Fink packages work well together, both now and in the future,
and that's the purpose of these standards.
What normally happens when someone
, not the dpkg
install-info we normally use. Problem is, the texinfo one doesn't
support --infodir]
At 16:45 Uhr -0500 11.11.2002, David R. Morrison wrote:
Max, haven't you substituted one problem for another with this change?
For a long time, we've used the dpkg version of install-info
Max, should we be trying to get CVS fink released and tested prior to a
binary distro? This sounds like an excellent feature...
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Yes, there was a problem with xforms-1.0 and lyx, so Jeff has put a lower
version of xforms back in the tree and made lyx depend on this lower
version. I'm not sure what we can do to make the upgrade smooth, though.
-- Dave
Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something about the lyx + xforms
Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David R. Morrison wrote:
Maybe somebody
else can make a new 0.4.1 installer? I'll be happy to talk you through
the process...
In case this is still needed, I made one. It looks OK to me, but since I
had never touched PackageMaker before
In fact, bzip2 should be split off since it has a
dylib and header...
Yes, and a similar remark applies to several other essential packages
like gettext and ncurses.
However, making changes to essential packages without breaking things is
tricky, to put it mildly, and I've yet to hear anyone
Jason,
You are following the instructions on the jag-bootstrap page, and yet one
of your earlier messages showed that you were in a fink-0.4.1-full directory?
Where did that come from? You shouldn't have fink-0.4.1 on your system
at all if you are following those instructions...
-- Dave
I've tried with both source installers I could find on the Fink page.
Well, one is intended for 10.1 and one for 10.2, so that could be part of
the problem.
If you ran the bootstrap.sh found in the fink-0.4.1-full tarball, then you
installed an old, 10.1, version of fink and you need to do the
jeff whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks: I'm getting ready to add a python-2.2.2 package to CVS. Some
time back, I was asked to add a two-level namespace python shared library
(/sw/lib/python2.2/config/libpython2.2.dylib) because koffice apparently
wouldn't build without it. Now
Martin,
Should I make a new copy of the 0.4.1 installer which has permissions 775
on the root directory instead of 700? If so, should I give it a new
name?
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Dear Fink Developers,
As you may have seen in a few recent messages, there is a serious problem
with the fink 0.4.1 binary installer which occurs if a user installs using
the installer twice. The permissions on the root directory of the machine
are altered, and the machine no longer boots!
I've
Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David R. Morrison wrote:
[]
What my fix does is to alter the .pax.gz file with the contents of the
installation so that the permission on . is 1755 in the directory
instead of 0700.
What did you do with the bom file? Not only does it still
I can provide one more clue about this situation: I made the binary
installer for 0.4.1, and my user id is 2011. I'm not at all clear
how the permissions on your system could have been changed, however.
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The time has come to decide the fate of the fink package for openssl in 10.2.
It would be good to get this settled before too many things move to the
stable tree.
My vote is to remove the package, and to eliminate many other packages
from the crypto tree which depend on it. In many cases, those
Let me suggest that if we are going to go for option 1, that the labels
on the pdb web page make this clear, i.e.,
In 0.4.1-stable (10.1):
In current-stable (10.2):
In current-unstable (10.2):
I also think that when we release 0.5.0, for some transition period we
should include four lines
Ben Hines has asked me in private email why we need the %n (= %v-%r)
part of the new Shlibs field.
Although I can't give an example of this at the moment, I can explain
some future scenarios where this will be used.
Suppose that your package builds two shared libraries, libfoo.1.dylib
and
Dear Fink Devlopers,
I have implemented the next phase of the shlibs project, which I'll discuss
in this message.
In this phase, in addition to making sure that all shared libraries are
kept in separate fink packages which can remain installed long after
other things have been upgraded, you will
I'm forwarding this to fink-devel because I'm not sure what the right
approach is.
tetex-base says Provides: dialog and dialog says Conflicts: tetex-base
The situation is that dialog is a very small package which someone might
want independently; tetex-base is a large package which includes
I'm working on the next phase of the shlibs project, and I'd like to get the
opinion of other Fink developers on one aspect of this.
The system will automatically examine the libraries which have been linked
to by a particular binary, and keep track of which packages provide those
libraries.
Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 14:44 Uhr -0700 06.10.2002, Ben Hines wrote:
On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 01:16 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Conflicts: neon-ssl, neon, neon19, neon19-ssl, neon21, neon21-ssl, neon22
Replaces: neon-ssl, neon, neon19, neon19-ssl, neon21, neon21-ssl
Yes, 0.5.0pre.cvs sounds good to me...
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Thanks for diagnosing this problem: I had noticed it affecting fvwm2 at some
point, but was never able to accurately determine what was going on.
I have created modified versions of the swi-prolog and wmmail packages
which do not depend on libxpm, and they both build fine on 10.1 and 10.2;
I
Ben Hines has made a nice list of packages which have not yet been moved to
10.2. Perhaps this is a good time for fink developers to make a list packages
which should *not* be moved.
1) manconf should not be moved (I believe this is the upshot of previous
discussions)
2) presumably,
When your packages are ready, you submit them for consideration by using
the package submission tracker linked from fink's webpage.
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On Sep 20,2002 00:58:41 +1000, Michael Stillwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
What is the fink group's policy on dependencies?
[snip]
I edited the .info file and built the package with /none/ of these
dependencies; it seems to work fine. Why do I need to install python
(and X11!) to get an
If you need to use fink's copy of the sourcefile for you package (which fink
would have for all packages that were stable at the time of the last release),
the URL for accessing this has changed. You formerly used something like
Source: http://fink.sourceforge.net/bindist/source/%n-%v.tar.gz
I have solved the problems with the new version of readline, in a new
revision, readline-2.3-1.
The underlying problem is that the wrong -install_name is being given when the
library is being built. That can't be fixed until the upstream maintainers
have been consulted.
When some users have a
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:52:58 -0700
From: Avi Rappoport [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thanks very much for fink
I'm starting to run command line apps, mainly search engines, on Mac OS X and I really
am happy to have found Fink. I
On Jul 8,2002 07:45:28 -0700, Vartan Katchikian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Dear Fink Admins,
We are the best seller french written Mac magazine SVM Mac, and I'm
the How-To's section editor. We have a cover CD and we would like to
know if you authorize us to put the Fink Installer and a few
From: David R. Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: distributing Fink (was Re: Dr Dobb's Journal)
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Rosalyn Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
DDJ is working on a Lightweight Language CD and would like to possibly
include the MAC version of Python
On Jul 5,2002 13:43:06 -0600, Jeff Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Jeff Whitaker [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
If it doesn't actually need openssl (library-wise or otherwise) then it
shouldn't depend on it. The problem that Martin uncovered is a
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