Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 12:24:55AM -0500, Peter O'Gorman wrote: Hi, Jack, I am sure that Jean-Francois was trying to be helpful, and was doing a task that I basically asked him to do, as I did not feel that I had the time for it. I do however understand your reaction, you have good reason

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Actually it appears that my last round of packaging on... https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2992713group_id=17203atid=414256 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2994489group_id=17203atid=414256 works as intended and the info files are avialable when the main gcc4X

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Max Horn
Am 03.05.2010 um 02:27 schrieb Jack Howarth: [...] Max, Okay. I read them out of order then. At first I was uncertain from the message in the gcc44-4.4.4-1000 entry, but coupled with the interest in maintainership shown in the message in the gcc45-4.5.0-1000 and the impact of your

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Max, Considering that I was only accused of not notifying other maintainers on commits rather than any error in packaging, I find your demand that I go through a full review process (satisfying all developers involved) to be extremely high-handed. This weekend I wasted a complete day on the

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Max, As to technical discussions, please review the proposed refactoring of gcc4x... - One small additional comment, sorry .. Going for such a structure, it helps a lot (to speed up upgrading by users and other pkgs) if the main pkg (the symlinks)

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Benjamin Reed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/3/10 8:02 AM, Jack Howarth wrote: ...you exempted yourself from that process. Max's header on his info files exists because of people changing his packages *in fink CVS* without his permission, and without notification, which is what you did to

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
Benjamin, I don't object to a review process but simply an endless one (where I am treated as novice packager without the recourse of calling enough, commit when the package meets the basic requirements). Otherwise, I am held hostage to the whims of whichever reviewer I pull and am really no

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Max Horn
Jack, this is ridiculous. First off, nobody holds you hostage to anything. And that you call JF's well thought and politely formulated questions, suggestions and objections whims is simply inflammatory and insulting. Let's try to scaled down on the ad-hominem attacks, too, OK? Discussion and

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-03 Thread Jack Howarth
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 05:11:32PM +0200, Max Horn wrote: Jack, this is ridiculous. First off, nobody holds you hostage to anything. And that you call JF's well thought and politely formulated questions, suggestions and objections whims is simply inflammatory and insulting. Let's try to

[Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Jack Howarth
Can someone explain to me at what point did it become acceptable behavior here to make random package grabs when another developer has a disagreement over packaging. After spending literally months upstream submitting patches and testresults to keep the FSF gcc 4.5 release in decent shape on

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Max Horn
Hi Jack, could you please elaborate what went wrong here, which package exactly was modified when by whom in which way that you take offense? Thanks for the clarification, Max Am 03.05.2010 um 00:42 schrieb Jack Howarth: Can someone explain to me at what point did it become acceptable

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Jack Howarth
Max, How am I supported to interpret the sudden appearance of... Taking over JF in https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2994489group_id=17203atid=414256 immediately after I make the wrong choice (in JF's eyes) of the two alernatives for packaging the info files that Daniel Macks

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread David R. Morrison
Jack, If you read the *previous* comment, which JF made, you will see that he was talking about taking over as the fink committer who was helping to evaluate your package. Taking over from Peter O'Gorman, in fact, not from you. -- Dave On May 2, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jack Howarth wrote:

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Max Horn
Am 03.05.2010 um 01:27 schrieb Jack Howarth: Max, How am I supported to interpret the sudden appearance of... Taking over JF in https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2994489group_id=17203atid=414256 immediately after I make the wrong choice (in JF's eyes) of the two

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Jack Howarth
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 01:34:51AM +0200, Max Horn wrote: Am 03.05.2010 um 01:27 schrieb Jack Howarth: Max, How am I supported to interpret the sudden appearance of... Taking over JF in https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2994489group_id=17203atid=414256

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Jack Howarth
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 04:31:52PM -0700, David R. Morrison wrote: Jack, If you read the *previous* comment, which JF made, you will see that he was talking about taking over as the fink committer who was helping to evaluate your package. Taking over from Peter O'Gorman, in fact, not

Re: [Fink-devel] unacceptable behavior

2010-05-02 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Hi, Jack, I am sure that Jean-Francois was trying to be helpful, and was doing a task that I basically asked him to do, as I did not feel that I had the time for it. I do however understand your reaction, you have good reason to be wary, but he was only taking over ownership of the ticket, not