Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-13 Thread Carl Welch
After all this discussion, I've decided to suck it up and give these a read: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/Learning_Objective-C_A_Primer/index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40007594 http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/O

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread Carl Welch
37 signals just posted a good article: Five rational arguments against Apple's 3.3.1 policy http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2273-five-rational-arguments-against-apples-331-policy --carl On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jer Brand wrote: > I apologize in advance for perpetuating this thread. I ju

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread Jer Brand
I apologize in advance for perpetuating this thread. I just can't seem to do the right thing and simply shut up. Wasn't part of the promise of the SDK that it would be open? That one day we'd be building apps in Python or C# or whatever language we wanted? When you get right down to it, isn't Xcod

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jon Bradley wrote: > Although all of us would love to develop iPhone and iPad applications using > the Flash platform, frankly that is not a proper methodology for developing > for these systems, in my opinion. That depends on what it is that you want to develop.

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread Juan Pablo Califano
>>> Learn C, C++ or Objective-C. They are not that hard, you have much more control and you are not at the beck and call of a translation governed by something like LLVM, which you have no control over. >>> Learn assembly. It's are not that hard, you have much more control and you are not at the

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread Carl Welch
Wow thanks for the advice. Crap, it took me almost a year make the switch from AS2 to AS3. How long is going to take to learn obj-c? It's not at all intuitive. Many of us were looking forward to jumping right in with CS5. Now I get to be a newbie again and start from the very beginning? Think about

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVkqbycvuKw&feature=player_embedded * * *apologies in advance ;) * On 12 April 2010 11:12, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) < alla...@gmail.com> wrote: > ooo this is interesting > > http://tec

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
ooo this is interesting http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/04/12/062232/Adobe-Flash-CS5-Exports-Animations-To-HTML5-Canvas?from=twitter cs5 exports animations to html5 canvas a On 12 Ap

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
actually the tablet that's interesting me the most is the Notion Ink Adam which uses a Pixel Qi screen that goes from a full beautiful colour led to a black and white easy-to-read screen in strong sunlight (something that apparently affects the ipads led-only screen quite badly) On 12 April 2010 1

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
i was in print at the time that came out and i remember that. As a platform the mac was failing, the powerpc chip was flaky and quite often not living up to the workhorse quadra chips before it. Adobe was looking at pulling out as a business decision because premiere was very popular on pc and the

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-12 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
thanks lee brimelow for this amazing post http://theflashblog.com/?p=1888 On 11 April 2010 23:00, Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW) < ematth...@webershandwick.com> wrote: > OK, that sort of makes sense - the "sort of" because cross-platform > compiled apps can already be accepted or rejected at the app

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-11 Thread Dave Watts
> A lot of outrage hass been expressed, but there has to be a "why". Why? Because it makes economic sense for Apple, and it hurts a company that Steve Jobs doesn't care for right now. If you don't allow cross-platform tools to work, developers have to explicitly choose your platform. Right now, A

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Watts
> Yeah, you don't think that you need to manage memory in those. But you do. > Just not as often. And not in the same way, either. But yes, there are memory management concerns in VM languages too, you just don't typically get faced with them directly every time you do something. Dave Watts, CTO,

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-10 Thread Dave Watts
> But I wonder how much of this is based on the old MS vs Apple war - > calculated on the fact there's probably more C++ than > ActionScript developers out there. I don't really think that's the right comparison, though. AS3 is a lot more like Java and C# than C++ is, actually. The core syntax is

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-10 Thread Matt S.
Anyone else sign up for the FlashInTheCity workshop on flash development for mobile? iPhone dev was definitely going to be a centerpiece, it'll be interesting to see how that goes now .m ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-09 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
Huge news today that Mobile Orchard is no more because of Apple's move: http://www.mobileorchard.com/goodbye/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MobileOrchard+(Mobile+Orchard)&utm_content=Google+Reader

Re: [Flashcoders] @#$% New iPhone Developer Agreemen t Bans the Use of Adobe’s Flash-to-iPhone Compiler

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Carl Welch wrote: > http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler > > I can't even explain how frustrated I am about apple. I just feel that Mr > Job's is just giving the finger to so many people that have supported and > promoted his compan