Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-15 Thread Hans Wichman
Completely unrelated conclusion, there is no relation between charging 10 hours for one hour of work and reusing standard components or not. If I follow your line of reasoning you say that because you are so good and can complete it in an hour instead of where someone else would take 10 it allows

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Jon Bradley
On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Good point. I'd recommend using SlideShowPro. It's cheap ($29), looks slick, and you'll be done in no time - your client will be none the wiser and you'll be $350 richer. http://slideshowpro.net/ At least there will be an email post in the

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
Not sure thats really ripping them off considering they probably don't know how to use the thing even if they bought it themselves. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Jon Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Carl Welch wrote: Good point. I'd recommend using

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Matt S.
Yeah, I would add that $350 to provide a working, customized, updateable photo gallery really isnt that much once you factor in a few hours work, set up time, explaining how to use, dealing with the inevitable HELP! emails a week later, etc. etc. especially if the client is technically un-savvy

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Weyert de Boer
Nah, the same as $367. Of course, in general Europe is more expensive then America so we need to ask more ;) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
You could add an AIR panel so they could edit the info in the XML themselves (in a way that was approachable), and you could make a ton more $ in my opinion. If you have the time that is. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Matt S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I would add that $350 to provide a

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Jon Bradley
On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: Not sure thats really ripping them off considering they probably don't know how to use the thing even if they bought it themselves. Well, yea. Charging setup, installation and customization of some store bought product is one thing.

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Glen Pike
Jon Bradley wrote: On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: Not sure thats really ripping them off considering they probably don't know how to use the thing even if they bought it themselves. Well, yea. Charging setup, installation and customization of some store bought

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Ian Thomas
I disagree. The client wants - and is prepared to pay for - an end product. It's up to you how you implement that product. Using off-the-shelf components is perfectly valid. If it wasn't, half the world's web developers would have to rewrite Mambo or Drupal from the group up everytime they

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Ian Thomas
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, if your clients functionality changes etc., then SlideShowPro isn't going to do it for you. :-) That's the risk you'd take in using a packaged product. Sorry - if your client _wants_ functionality changes... Ian

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Wohl
Having used and modified slideshow pro in the past... If the client wants some customization of that product, jack that price up yo! Unfortunately for me, the client was already using the SSP app when they contacted me. And their request on modifications to it almost met the same cost as me

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread dr.ache
jesus... what a question. very simple but acceptable.. 1 day = 500Euro but i would try to avoid those jobs. Pedro Kostelec schrieb: As we are talking about money.What would be the price of a very simple but acceptable web page? And how long does it take to the pros to create one? Pedro

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Pedro Kostelec
As we are talking about money.What would be the price of a very simple but acceptable web page? And how long does it take to the pros to create one? Pedro ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Carl Welch
using tools of the trade is far from ripping clients off. Ridiculous statement. As an Example, if I go to a restaurant and order eggs, is the restaurant ripping me off because they don't raise the chickens themselves? , I want breakfast... You are in this business to make money. And if

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Jon Bradley
On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Carl Welch wrote: using tools of the trade is far from ripping clients off. Ridiculous statement. It's not ridiculous at all. Read my reply to my initial email where I elaborated a bit more. The comment about a client being 'none the wiser' and the

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Glen Pike
You could always give them the box and tell them to install it themselves. My point is that there is always time involved. Setting up someone's website from scratch takes about a morning on a good day and longer on a nasty day, then there is the cost of the project admin time - meeting the

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Knauf
That's a nearly impossible question, define simple define acceptable define pro... Generally speaking if you have to ask, you're probably charging too little ;-), but prices vary from region to region and country to country and industry to industry... there are huge differences from

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Carl Welch
The comment about a client being 'none the wiser' and the implication that you're just making the extra dough by handing off some crap someone else did is what's not cool. The point was, if you're repackaging something that someone already did without any value add, then that's

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Wohl
about tree fiddy. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please. How much does it cost to build a simple but acceptable car ? Pedro Kostelec wrote: As we are talking about money.What would be the price of a very simple but acceptable web page? And how long

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread Latcho
Please. How much does it cost to build a simple but acceptable car ? Pedro Kostelec wrote: As we are talking about money.What would be the price of a very simple but acceptable web page? And how long does it take to the pros to create one? Pedro ___

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-14 Thread sebastian
Pedro Kostelec wrote: As we are talking about money.What would be the price of a very simple but acceptable web page? And how long does it take to the pros to create one? Step 1: Determine your hourly rate. This may be a flat rate, or you may skew the rate depending on the type of client

[Fwd: Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?]

2008-11-14 Thread Latcho
Hedged or unhedged ? Bob Wohl wrote: about tree fiddy. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Latcho [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please. How much does it cost to build a simple but acceptable car ? Pedro Kostelec wrote: As we are talking about

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-13 Thread dr.ache
Anthony Pace schrieb: What is a fair price for a simple photo gallery, in AS3, that loads the photo data from an XML file? I said between $280 to $350; given the hours it would take me, plus some contingency time. Did I under quote? over quote? what do you think? Still new to this

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-13 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi, depends on whether you are writing it from scratch or not. Seeing the huge amount of foto galleries already outthere including open sourced components etc you could save some time by just using one of those. Then it's just implementation time x your hourly rate. greetz JC On Fri, Nov 14,

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-13 Thread Latcho
Also depends where you are located. In the Netherlands we ask as much as 60 to 90 /hour. But then your coding speed counts in too. I think there are a lot of simple viewers out there like (randompick): http://theflashblog.com/?p=225

Re: [Flashcoders] How much would you charge?

2008-11-13 Thread Carl Welch
Good point. I'd recommend using SlideShowPro. It's cheap ($29), looks slick, and you'll be done in no time - your client will be none the wiser and you'll be $350 richer. http://slideshowpro.net/ Cheers, -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com http://www.jointjam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On