Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread Niklas Richardson
Someone might have mentioned this already, but I haven't seen it. If you want some of the functionality of Flex (i.e. forms, data grid, etc...) and cost is an issue, then ColdFusion MX 7 could be an option for you. It has a very cut down version of Flex built into it and accessible via

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread Kevin Langdon
, September 29, 2005 4:43 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives Someone might have mentioned this already, but I haven't seen it. If you want some of the functionality of Flex (i.e. forms, data grid, etc...) and cost is an issue, then ColdFusion MX 7

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread David Solis
This is a commercial alternative solution based on Java: http://www.canoo.com/ulc/ Regards On 9/27/05, Anupam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is there any alternative to Flex server, except the (very expensive) one provided by MM? Are there any other options? Have all the members of

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread Jonathan Bezuidenhout
It DOES affect the developer - few companies can afford the high prices and you are out of a job. I think at the moment pointless for any developer to learn Flex with the few limited opportunities. The place I am currently working is the only one in town that does this work. I think if you

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread Stacy Young
:05 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives It DOES affect the developer - few companies can afford the high prices and you are out of a job. I think at the moment pointless for any developer to learn Flex with the few limited opportunities

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread Carson Hager
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives WARNING: This message contains little-to-no helpful information and for the most part is a rant. The problem with Flex pricing isn't the price itself. The problem is it's model. Most development I have seen is only using Flex as a compiler

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-29 Thread sam / pixelconsumption
@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Niklas Richardson Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:43 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives Someone might have mentioned this already, but I haven't seen

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread JesterXL
Laszlo touts itself as being an alternative, but it's not even in the same league. Not sure what happened to KineticFusion, don't hear about it much. - Original Message - From: Anupam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:31 PM Subject:

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Tracy Spratt
The issue of cost doesn't affect the developer since you can get the perpetual developer license for free. The cost is a major issue when you go to put a commercial application in production, and there is currently no alternative (if using Flex) You can apply for a non-commercial license if that

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Anupam
My issue is with the deployment cost. So the only alternative for small-time Web application developers is to have their own servers for deployment. I am surprised that not many people are talking about it. It seems people are happy with the status-quo, ie. paying huge amounts to MM. I am also

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Mink, Joseph
@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives My issue is with the deployment cost. So the only alternative for small-time Web applicationdevelopers is to have their own servers for deployment. I am surprised that not many people are talking about it. It seems people are happy

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Carson Hager
: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives My issue is with the deployment cost. So the only alternative for small-time Web application developers is to have their own servers for deployment. I am surprised that not many people are talking about it. It seems people are happy with the status-quo, ie

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Tariq Ahmed
Yo. Well as mentioned there was HUGE sticker shock when MM doubled the price, and a lot of complaining. But MM is aiming at large Enterprises that can afford it. Similarly you can complain to Ferrari to drop the prices of their cars... but if you wanna role with the high end you gotta shell

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Anupam
Tariq, Thanks for the long list of alternatives. Some of them actually look promising. Which one in your view comes closest to the gizzmos provided by Flex? My point is, I didn't see this group talk about alternatives. One way to put pressure on MM is to support an open source/3rd party

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Tariq Ahmed
Well I don't know if I would venture to "dirt cheap". What other systems are you referring to? If you're enterprise, and building mission critical apps, and especially if it affects financial performance and need to be SOX compliant you're basic setup is: - 1 Development WS - 1 QA Server -

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Tariq Ahmed
Check out this article: http://www.lukew.com/resources/WebApplicationSolutions.pdf If you search long enough you'll find some slides from a presentation some guy did which I wish I bookmarked which talks about all the offerings and their strengths and weaknesses (it's fairly neutral).

RE: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread James
, September 28, 2005 6:19 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives To be blunt, FLEX was never built for Web Application Developers in the mainstream web environment. Its purpose was to take existing backend systems and provide a unified view infront

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Server Alternatives

2005-09-28 Thread Scott Barnes
On 9/29/05, Tariq Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I don't know if I would venture to dirt cheap. What other systems are you referring to? See SAP for starters, then once you jump that hurdle, now look at anything with the word ORACLE in it. If you're enterprise, and building