Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread John Check
Okay, the sounds in CVS are all 8 bit now and tested. I don't know if it's just my system but rumble.wav could be a little "bumpier".. at anyrate... sounds are all now 8 bit but various sample rates and everything seems ok. I noticed FWIW that in src/Sound/fg_fx.cxx, only the cranking.wav sound

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery server

2001-11-12 Thread Alex Perry
> Is the scenery server down? Which one do you mean ? My one is up, for all three services. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread John Check
just copied cranking.wav to flaps.wav, it's definitely pitch shifted lemme see where the sounds are specified.. On Tuesday 13 November 2001 12:19 am, you wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2001 9:26 pm, you wrote: > > John Check writes: > > > On Monday 12 November 2001 8:15 pm, you wrote: >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread John Check
On Monday 12 November 2001 9:26 pm, you wrote: > John Check writes: > > On Monday 12 November 2001 8:15 pm, you wrote: > > > John Check writes: > > > > I dunno Curt, there are 16 and 8 bit samples in Sounds at between > > > > 11025 and 32000Hz. Are you saying the playback rate is fixed? Rumble > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Displays

2001-11-12 Thread John Wojnaroski
> > > area. It looks like OpenGC will need a nav database comparable with FG's > > (airports, navaids, don't want to keep shipping that stuff across the > > interface) > > This is actually the main impediment to designing an ND gauge. Offhand, I > had been thinking about using Robin Peel's (if I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Displays

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
Hi... > area. It looks like OpenGC will need a nav database comparable with FG's > (airports, navaids, don't want to keep shipping that stuff across the > interface) This is actually the main impediment to designing an ND gauge. Offhand, I had been thinking about using Robin Peel's (if I'm remem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: > On Monday 12 November 2001 8:15 pm, you wrote: > > John Check writes: > > > I dunno Curt, there are 16 and 8 bit samples in Sounds at between 11025 > > > and 32000Hz. Are you saying the playback rate is fixed? Rumble is > > > 16bit@32000 I was planning on resampling them all t

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread David Megginson
Jon S. Berndt writes: > I am trying to add some logic in there that freezes the model when > a crash occurs. The problem is coming up with a set of cases that > works for crash detection. This is hard to do accurately without a > surface normal and knowing which triangle a contact point is on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread John Wojnaroski
> Is this a criticism of CMake, autoconf, or the standard build practice? Both > CMake and autoconf are open-source, the only distinction is that some > existing projects rely on autoconf (and are therefore not particularly good > candidates for CMake) and that CMake supports Borland and Visual

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread David Megginson
Flavio Villanustre writes: > I saw a different kind of crash (literally)... After crashing against a > mountain, everything became unresponsive and the engines suddenly stopped. > I couldn't turn the engine back on and the pannel looked funny, with > missing needles, instruments, etc. (I reg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread John Check
On Monday 12 November 2001 8:15 pm, you wrote: > John Check writes: > > I dunno Curt, there are 16 and 8 bit samples in Sounds at between 11025 > > and 32000Hz. Are you saying the playback rate is fixed? Rumble is > > 16bit@32000 I was planning on resampling them all to 8 bit. Time is a > > little

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Displays

2001-11-12 Thread John Wojnaroski
> Oh!!! Excelent resource! Now it's a bookmark on my browser for more in > depth reviewing! OK, I'll hold on until you have it worked out. May I help > you in anything? I'd be glad to help if I can... > > Regards, > > Flavio. > As you can see there is a lot to add to the flight deck. Perhaps you

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > no terrain intersection > > no terrain intersection > > load() base = /usr/local/lib/FlightGear/Scenery > > Loading tile > > /usr/local/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w180n1879048190/w180n1879048191/5712 > > This is (most likely) caused by the current lack of crash protection in > JSBSim. What's happ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: > I dunno Curt, there are 16 and 8 bit samples in Sounds at between 11025 and > 32000Hz. Are you saying the playback rate is fixed? Rumble is 16bit@32000 > I was planning on resampling them all to 8 bit. Time is a little tight for a > couple more days I seem to recall tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Tony Peden
On Monday 12 November 2001 04:21 pm, you wrote: > I saw a different kind of crash (literally)... After crashing against a > mountain, everything became unresponsive and the engines suddenly stopped. > I couldn't turn the engine back on and the pannel looked funny, with > missing needles, instrumen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
Curt, maybe you were right and the sound system is responsible for the freezes... I got it to hang again while debugging and I saw this from a backtrace in gdb: (gdb) backtrace #0 slSamplePlayer::skip (this=0x9499798, nframes=1024) at sl.h:260 #1 0x08308cc1 in slPlayer::preempt (this=0x94997

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
Mmmm... I can reproduce the first freeze I was refering to, almost 100% of the times... Do this, start from KSFO, normal heading, start engine with throttle set to MAX and pull the joystick to force the plane raise ASAP... with some luck you'll get FGFS frozen in 15 to 20 seconds (just a few

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
Agreed. > So as I see it, the best way forward, which would please both crowds, is > to use both systems simultaneously in the various projects, with each > crowd maintaining their own system's scripts, making sure required > changes are notified to the other crowd via the respective mailling > l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
I saw a different kind of crash (literally)... After crashing against a mountain, everything became unresponsive and the engines suddenly stopped. I couldn't turn the engine back on and the pannel looked funny, with missing needles, instruments, etc. (I regret not having taken an snapshot)... Th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Ross Golder
On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 23:10, Damion Shelton wrote: > Is this a criticism of CMake, autoconf, or the standard build practice? Both > CMake and autoconf are open-source, the only distinction is that some > existing projects rely on autoconf (and are therefore not particularly good > candidates for C

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
Curt, I can't assure it's not tied to the sound system, however I was in steady flight not touching any control when fgfs hanged, so I'm quite sure the sound system was just producing the same standard engine sound... Anyway it looks like we have a deadlock somewhere triggered by a yet to be d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mou th"

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
Support means: Input - CMakeLists.txt files Output - Borland project file Open the project file and build it. Pretty simple, in my opinion. The procedure is analogous on other platforms. Except that the output is a makefile (for Unix) or workspace (for Visual Studio). All that's distributed to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread John Check
On Monday 12 November 2001 7:31 am, you wrote: > I think there is only one specific frequency of wav that plib audio > supports, also I don't believe it supports stereo sounds either. I dunno Curt, there are 16 and 8 bit samples in Sounds at between 11025 and 32000Hz. Are you saying the playback

[Flightgear-devel] slips

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Tony, The extra drag on cross controlled slips is cool. Thanks! I'm always setting up my approach too high and this help get down a lot easier. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] M

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
> candidates for CMake) and that CMake supports Borland and Visual C++ I've always wanted something that supports Borland. What does "support" mean in this case? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
Is this a criticism of CMake, autoconf, or the standard build practice? Both CMake and autoconf are open-source, the only distinction is that some existing projects rely on autoconf (and are therefore not particularly good candidates for CMake) and that CMake supports Borland and Visual C++ compil

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread John Wojnaroski
> Curtis Olson writes: > It creates a complex build system from simple input files, but most > people get hung up thinking that they have to look in the configure > script or in the makefiles. That's the last place you want to go > (although it can be useful to debug some problems.) The trick i

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > >Norman, > >With the latest changes we have a problem. :-) > >In Linux with my window manager you can right click on the top window >border to get a list of options such as maximize, minimize, etc. >Unfortunately, the latest code incantation captures mouse events even >wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery server

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM) writes: > Is the scenery server down? No ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intelligent Vehicles Lab FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.o

[Flightgear-devel] Scenery server

2001-11-12 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
Is the scenery server down? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Flavio, I'm seeing this on one machine, but not another ... It seems to be tied to the audio system ... i.e. are you seeing these pauses at a stall or a wheel touchdown? I'm wondering if it's somehow related also to the threaded tile loader and something is getting confused or clobbered and we d

[Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS and updates

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
Dear all, latest changes are really cool, with GUI tweaks, ATIS support, etc. Thanks to all for doing such a great job! OTOH, I'm getting sporadic freezes, where after running FGFS for 10 to 15 minutes, everything stopped as it were paused, but even screen is not refreshed. The only way of e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib: puGetStringWidth() dec. error

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
This should now be fixed in cvs ... thanks for the patch Norman. :-) Curt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It seems to me I have seen this one before, but there appears to be a problem > when compiling FlightGear with the plib function puGetStringWidth(). I did a > complete update on everything t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski writes: > Sometimes I have trouble with "gcc -c hello.cpp"; a nice clean simple > understandable build package that I can dissect if I chose without having to > envoke mystical incantations to decipher would be appreciated. Automake/autoconf really isn't that bad once you get goin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread John Wojnaroski
> On Sun, 2001-11-11 at 01:37, Damion Shelton wrote: > > > > Thanks for the feedback everyone - that's an impressive amount of message > > traffic! I've decided to go with the CMake build system from > > public.kitware.com/CMake - it uses a generic "makefile" (not unix format) > > syntax which i

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: > I don't have 'X' so I can't debug this > But since we are relying on GLUT for our mouse messages > it would be interesting to know if this was a problem with other > GLUT programs or PLib programs < demos > It's something that only surfaced with your most recent round of gu

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > >Curtis L. Olson writes: >> Norman, >> >> With the latest changes we have a problem. :-) >> >> In Linux with my window manager you can right click on the top window >> border to get a list of options such as maximize, minimize, etc. >> Unfortunately, the latest code inc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: > FYI > These are a NEW or CHANGED GUI features in the current CVS files > > 1) Jim Wilson's updated external viewer interface > that uses dial's instead of sliders for angles > 2) Jim Wilson's Property browser > This is patterned after a normal file requestor >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > Norman, > > With the latest changes we have a problem. :-) > > In Linux with my window manager you can right click on the top window > border to get a list of options such as maximize, minimize, etc. > Unfortunately, the latest code incantation captures mouse events eve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: > FYI > These are a NEW or CHANGED GUI features in the current CVS files > > 1) Jim Wilson's updated external viewer interface > that uses dial's instead of sliders for angles > 2) Jim Wilson's Property browser > This is patterned after a normal file requestor >

[Flightgear-devel] GUI Tweaks

2001-11-12 Thread Norman Vine
FYI These are a NEW or CHANGED GUI features in the current CVS files 1) Jim Wilson's updated external viewer interface that uses dial's instead of sliders for angles 2) Jim Wilson's Property browser This is patterned after a normal file requestor and a directory tree.

[Flightgear-devel] tile cache bug fixed

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I just nailed an especially annoying tile cache scheduling bug. What was happening was that we screwed up and scheduled tiles for (lon,lon) rather than (lon,lat) ... note the typo. This generated bogus tile id's which the system happily accepted, put into the tile cache system, and attempted to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
> automake/autoconf is working just fine for us, thankyou. :-) Glad to hear it ;-) I am certainly not suggesting using CMake for existing projects (though I am maintaining a local build of FTGL that builds itself using CMake, in the interests of keeping OpenGC in sync with FTGL). Freetype 2, thou

RE: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC6 - Update Nov 11

2001-11-12 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
> > > That's due to a bug in JSBsim's pseudo-XML parser. It fails > > > as soon as it gets a tab instead of a space char. I don't know why > > > that's working under Linux (I'm assuming it does or it would have > > > been fixed much earlier). > > > > Not so fast. > > I'm sorry if I offended you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ross Golder writes: > On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:36, Damion Shelton wrote: > > Comments are of course welcome > > > > Sounds like a good all-round solution to me. I'll have to look into this > CMake stuff before I set about autoconfing it. It may be worth pursuing > for the flightgear/simgear/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Ross Golder
On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 18:36, Damion Shelton wrote: > Comments are of course welcome > Sounds like a good all-round solution to me. I'll have to look into this CMake stuff before I set about autoconfing it. It may be worth pursuing for the flightgear/simgear/jsbsim system too. -- Ross

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Damion Shelton
Hi this is in an important issue so I'm going to bandstand for a bit. First off, let me preface this by saying that I am not terribly familiar with ac/am and therefore I am assuming, based on prior message traffic, that it does not support building under Microsoft or Borland compilers. If thi

[Flightgear-devel] plib: puGetStringWidth() dec. error

2001-11-12 Thread jsb
It seems to me I have seen this one before, but there appears to be a problem when compiling FlightGear with the plib function puGetStringWidth(). I did a complete update on everything this morning and have successfully built plib and simgear. Does anyone have any insight on this? Jon make[2

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC6 - Update Nov 11

2001-11-12 Thread Christian Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The default JSBSIM failed after - > > > (I have removed the ANSI terminal escape sequences in src) > > > Reading Aircraft Configuration File: c172 > > > Version: 1.50 > > > Reading Metrics > > > WingArea: 174 > > > ... etc > > >

[Flightgear-devel] Build problems again

2001-11-12 Thread jsb
Does this build error look familiar to anyone: ./aclocal.m4:346: /bin/m4: Warning: Excess arguments to built-in `define' ignored configure.in:30: AC_PROG_CPP was called before AC_PROG_CC Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC6 - Update Nov 11

2001-11-12 Thread jsb
> > The default JSBSIM failed after - > > (I have removed the ANSI terminal escape sequences in src) > > Reading Aircraft Configuration File: c172 > > Version: 1.50 > > Reading Metrics > > WingArea: 174 > > ... etc > > Maximum Alpha: 0.28Minimum Alpha: -0

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC6 - Update Nov 11

2001-11-12 Thread Vader
Geoff McLane schrieb: > > The default JSBSIM failed after - > (I have removed the ANSI terminal escape sequences in > src) > Reading Aircraft Configuration File: c172 > Version: 1.50 > Reading Metrics > WingArea: 174 > ... etc > Maximum Alpha: 0.28Minimu

[Flightgear-devel] Night and day

2001-11-12 Thread Marcio Shimoda
How Flight Gear set the hour and knows if is night or day? []'s Marcio Shimoda ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New sounds and some whines

2001-11-12 Thread markpasc
John Check wrote: > > Cameron asked about alternative audio formats, and I thought > > it was worth pointing out Ogg Vorbis > It could be useful if we are talking about canned ATC > audio Sorry to jump in late, but part of our project with FlightGear includes canned control audio. Since we aren

re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I think there is only one specific frequency of wav that plib audio supports, also I don't believe it supports stereo sounds either. Curt. David Megginson writes: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > The sounds effects are working great. Did have some trouble with the > > rumble.wav in CVS. For some

re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound volumes

2001-11-12 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > The sounds effects are working great. Did have some trouble with the > rumble.wav in CVS. For some reason it's sounds like a jet engine...way > over pitched or something. Yes -- it sounds good by itself, but for some reason when we play it in FlightGear, the high end i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATIS Support

2001-11-12 Thread D Luff
Cameron Moore writes: > > Well, after stepping through this a while, I think I've figured out what > the problem is. There is a buffer overflow in src/ATC/ATCdisplay.cxx at > around line 70: > > char buf[256]; > ... I think you might have hit the nail on the head there. I'll make some c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Display Update

2001-11-12 Thread Flavio Villanustre
Hi John, it would be great if you can e-mail me the changes (or the complete updated OpenGC), and the required modifications to FGFS. I'll give it a try as soon as I receive them. Regards, Flavio. On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, John Wojnaroski wrote: > Hi Flavio, > > I've updated the display source

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenGC build process "from the horse's mouth"

2001-11-12 Thread Ross Golder
On Sun, 2001-11-11 at 01:37, Damion Shelton wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback everyone - that's an impressive amount of message > traffic! I've decided to go with the CMake build system from > public.kitware.com/CMake - it uses a generic "makefile" (not unix format) > syntax which is parsed by a

[Flightgear-devel] MSVC6 - Update Nov 11

2001-11-12 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi, Been working for a tad (on NT 4.0 DDK stuff), and then onto some other Windows tools (like my 'own' Spy5,etc) ... but hopefully back for a bit ... did manage to keep up with most of the mail - en brief - Downloaded the newest CVS to a new FG78CVS folders, SimGear FlightGear and used th