Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'm sure he meant boeing.com (hey, Stacie was first!). Now with Boeing and Sikorsky on board, where is EADS/Airbus? Come on! We know you are here! And Fokker!? And *cough* Diamond *cough* ... ;-) I get the sense (from little bits and pieces I've gleaned over time)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-27 Thread Jon Berndt
directly. We aren't trying to eventually replace JSBsim with a proprietary flight dynamics model here so please, I don't want anyone to worry. :-) coughJon/cough :-) My main goal for attending this show was to show the flexibility and adaptability of FlightGear as an engineering and rapid

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-27 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, thanks for your resume ! Curtis L. Olson wrote: I just got back from a Mathworks matlab/simulink symposium in LA this week. (Thank you John, Alex, and Trisha for all your efforts! And I have to thank Mathworks who went all out to help us get John's 747 sim down to the show

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-27 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Hello Curt, thanks for your resume ! Oops, did I misclick with this stupid laptop touch pad and attach my resume by mistake? That sounds interesting, but it's not completely clear to me what they acutally did to achieve this ;-) Did they create an interface within

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-27 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Hello Curt, thanks for your resume ! Oops, did I misclick with this stupid laptop touch pad and attach my resume by mistake? :-)) No, you didn't, I was just echoing the funny habit of a British colleague in the way he translates the French word

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Alberico, James F -- Thursday 26 May 2005 16:42: Erik Hofman wrote: Harald JOHNSEN wrote: Alberico, James F wrote: Hi Jim, It good to see some big names showing up on the list. This might give the project a boost to get to the next level. You certainly mean Harald, not me, unless

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery size constraints

2005-05-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Alberico, James F -- Thursday 26 May 2005 16:42: You certainly mean Harald, not me, unless you are commenting on the ugly format of my name here. :-) I'm sure he meant boeing.com (hey, Stacie was first!). Now with Boeing and Yep. Sikorsky on board, where is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-02-02 Thread Adam Boggs
I understand the fear that many companies have of open source software, and the concern that the product that is their bread and butter might be illegally transferred among those users. However, there's another side to this that could be very positive for both sides. Just like giving away free

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-02-01 Thread Matthew Law
Hi Mally, I wasn't aware that you were an MSFS developer and since I currently do a bit of x-country practice in MSFS with the VisualFlight scenery I'd like to congratulate you on an awesome job! I for one would be elated to see a commercially available version of the getmapping derived

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-31 Thread David Luff
Mally writes: Dave ... It would be nice to know whether visualflight regard buying the MSFS scenery and converting it for personal FlightGear use as fair use or not. As you (Dave) know, I'm the developer of Visual Flight photo scenery, though I've been on the flightgear lists

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread mat churchill
Just to clear up the visualflight question, the scenery I have built does not use the visualflight scenery rather the same source material as visualflight. This is a UK company called Getmapping that has done an almost complete aerial survey of the UK. They actually sell this data in fairly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread Mally
Dave ... It would be nice to know whether visualflight regard buying the MSFS scenery and converting it for personal FlightGear use as fair use or not. As you (Dave) know, I'm the developer of Visual Flight photo scenery, though I've been on the flightgear lists for many years under my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread Mally
Mat If you've not already read it, please read my reply to David Luff before reading on. Just to clear up the visualflight question, the scenery I have built does not use the visualflight scenery rather the same source material as visualflight. I'm not sure David was implying this, but it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery - CORRECTION!

2004-01-30 Thread Mally
In any case, I think that generating textures for FlightGear from the MSFS textures would be the ideal solution. I've not been following the Oops, I meant to say that it would NOT be the ideal solution! Sorry about that. Mally --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread mat churchill
Mally, After a phone call I have emailed Richard Cook at Coch Media the makers of the High in the Sky distribution of the Getmapping scenery. He is going to get back to me with a definitive answer on the EULA for this product and has said he will speak to their partner in the product Getmapping

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread Mally
Mat From what you say there may be restrictions as to how I can legally view the scenery having paid for a copy of it. This is something I hadn't considered, so I will wait to hear back. It's possible that the EULA will have a restriction against modifying the images, but obviously I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:04:25 +, Matthew Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm interested in how you did this as I thought of extracting the files from the MS FS VFR scenery discs I have and somehow stitching it together for use in FGFS..? ..does the EULA allow

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread mat churchill
That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000859.html http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2004-January/006927.html Had just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Erik Hofman
mat churchill wrote: Had just slightly improved this method after advice from Curt on how to stop the tile edges cutting into inclines. But have had loss of fat on my hardrive (linked to powercut I think). If anyone knows of a good file recovery solution that will work with reiser fs would like

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Thursday 29 January 2004 13:57: A good journaling file system like RiserFS would never lose (actually 99.995% of the time, and even then just very small portions of the) data. Any reason why you don't recommend XFS instead? :-] m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Matthew Law
I'm interested in how you did this as I thought of extracting the files from the MS FS VFR scenery discs I have and somehow stitching it together for use in FGFS..? In theory you should be able to get at the data as Reiser should still be able to give you everything since the last time it wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
mat churchill wrote: That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000859.html

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Russell Suter wrote: mat churchill wrote: That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000859.h tml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Mally
I once been a Terraserver subscriber. I was allowed to download everything i want at full resolution for a short period of time. I have now the bay area at 1m resolution in color. You are not allowed to redistribute images but derived work is yours. -Fred

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Mally
Fred I once been a Terraserver subscriber. I was allowed to download everything i want at full resolution for a short period of time. I have now the bay area at 1m resolution in color. You are not allowed to redistribute images but derived work is yours. Derived work in a GIS context would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Russell Suter wrote: mat churchill wrote: That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000859.h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Mally
Russ I'm not planning on redistributing the work. The work would be for a client of mine who is trying to upgrade their simulator's visual database... Are you sure that doesn't count as redistributing? Mally --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Matthew Law
The ones I have are from www.visualflight.co.uk and are about 20GBP per region. I bought the regions aroung my airfield to help with VFR practice in MSFS but I'd like to see them in FGFS much more :-) An extension script to rip these into FG for people who have purchased the images would be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread David Luff
On 1/29/04 at 10:05 PM Frederic Bouvier wrote: I once been a Terraserver subscriber. I was allowed to download everything i want at full resolution for a short period of time. I have now the bay area at 1m resolution in color. You are not allowed to redistribute images but derived work is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
Mally wrote: Russ I'm not planning on redistributing the work. The work would be for a client of mine who is trying to upgrade their simulator's visual database... Are you sure that doesn't count as redistributing? Not if they buy the images and I simply provide the labor... --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread David Luff
On 1/29/04 at 10:08 PM Matthew Law wrote: The ones I have are from www.visualflight.co.uk and are about 20GBP per region. I bought the regions aroung my airfield to help with VFR practice in MSFS but I'd like to see them in FGFS much more :-) An extension script to rip these into FG for

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery mirrors

2003-10-15 Thread simon
Martin Spott writes: James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the reasons that relative links are a good idea. As a made up example, a link from http://gnucash.org/en/contribute.phtml to http://gnucash.org/pub/gnucash/sources/stable/ should use a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery update feedback

2003-09-07 Thread Dave Perry
This is really a question. I live near Jeffco (KBJC) half way between Denver and Boulder, CO and often shoot practice ILS approaches in fgfs in this area. The new scenery, etc., make Jeffco much more realistic from the air. There used to be a huge hump in the middle of 29R (the main ILS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery update feedback

2003-09-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dave Perry writes: This is really a question. I live near Jeffco (KBJC) half way between Denver and Boulder, CO and often shoot practice ILS approaches in fgfs in this area. The new scenery, etc., make Jeffco much more realistic from the air. There used to be a huge hump in the middle

[Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery doesn't load after cvs update

2003-08-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Saturday 09 August 2003 04:53: Ooops I didn't catch that because I was explicitely specifying the scenery path. SHould now be fixed in cvs. It does still not work under Linux, because sgDirPathSepBad is still defined to be ':' and hence replaced by '/' in SGPath::fix(). I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery doesn't load after cvs update

2003-08-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Something is not making sense to me here. What are you using for your --fg-scenery= and --fg-root= options? Thanks, Curt. Melchior FRANZ writes: * Curtis L. Olson -- Saturday 09 August 2003 04:53: Ooops I didn't catch that because I was explicitely specifying the scenery path. SHould

[Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery doesn't load after cvs update

2003-08-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Saturday 09 August 2003 15:11: Something is not making sense to me here. What are you using for your --fg-scenery= and --fg-root= options? export FG_ROOT=/usr/local/share/flightgear export FG_SCENERY=/home/m/.fgfs/Scenery:$FG_ROOT/Scenery FGTileLoader::add()

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery doesn't load after cvs update

2003-08-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ooops I didn't catch that because I was explicitely specifying the scenery path. SHould now be fixed in cvs. Thanks, Curt. Alex Romosan writes: Matevz Jekovec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yesterday's CVS works fine on my machine (except disappearing sound, but that's probably plib and new

[Flightgear-devel] Re: scenery doesn't load after cvs update

2003-08-14 Thread Alex Romosan
Matevz Jekovec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yesterday's CVS works fine on my machine (except disappearing sound, but that's probably plib and new sound card issue). found the bug: diff -u -r1.2 FGTileLoader.cxx --- FGTileLoader.cxx8 Aug 2003 20:11:22 - 1.2 +++ FGTileLoader.cxx8

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Matevz Jekovec -- Sunday 03 August 2003 11:34: Do we have a CVS for scenery files too or are those on flightgear.org server the latest ones? These are the latest official ones. But you can get newer and better scenery here:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 03 August 2003 11:39: These are the latest official ones. But you can get newer and better scenery here: [...] Well, better is relative. Some of the tiles are a serious step back. The Madeira islands are beautiful in the original scenery, while in the randtechnologies

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 03 August 2003 11:39: These are the latest official ones. But you can get newer and better scenery here: [...] Well, better is relative. Some of the tiles are a serious step back. Like FDM's, there is no best here. They both have good and bad

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Sunday 03 August 2003 13:30: The Madeira islands are beautiful in the original scenery, while in the randtechnologies scenery they look somewhat ridiculous: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/madeira.jpg You don't like the view of that? :-D :-) But seriously: compare

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: But seriously: compare the two pictures, both taken with the following settings: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/flightgear.jpg (14 kB) http://members.aon.at/mfranz/randtechnologies.jpg (14 kB) Ouch! I already had the impression something wasn't completely right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: I already had the impression something wasn't completely right with the vmap0 data, but this beats everything. The elevation doesn't come from the vmap0 data. What happens is that we have to build with --min-triangle=0 because TerraGear cannot handle the complexity of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson wriyes: Erik Hofman writes: I already had the impression something wasn't completely right with the vmap0 data, but this beats everything. The elevation doesn't come from the vmap0 data. What happens is that we have to build with --min-triangle=0 because TerraGear

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: ie look at the vmap0 representation for many islands and you will find that they are just 3 or 4 points wheas the same in GSHHS will show things ike atols and barrier reefs for the same place Again, it depends on where you're looking -- it's just the opposite situation

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery development question

2003-08-03 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: ie look at the vmap0 representation for many islands and you will find that they are just 3 or 4 points wheas the same in GSHHS will show things ike atols and barrier reefs for the same place Again, it depends on where you're looking --

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery Strangeness

2002-03-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Paul Deppe -- Tuesday 05 March 2002 21:53: With the latest CVS (1400 EST 3/5/2002) on my Cygwin/Win2k system the textures in mountainous areas seem to walk across the ground and appear and disappear in a very strange manner. I am wondering if anyone else sees this problem. Same here. It's