RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Berndt Sent: 20 June 2005 01:33 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error? So, you think the UK is part of Europe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Gerard Robin wrote: Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 23:27 +0200, Harald JOHNSEN a écrit : Now I don't understand. Flightgear uses a key, its the same for all contries whatever keyboard you use. What changes is the position of this letter on the keyboard, not the key because we are not using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 19 June 2005 13:50, Jon Berndt wrote: This short reference: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and , (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing. IMNSHO the really confusing part

[Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Jon Berndt
This short reference: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and , (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Berndt wrote: shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and , (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing. This was written by a German (Michael Basler) - we acually _have_ a comma as the decimal separator on the numeric keypad :-) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Oliver C.
On Sunday 19 June 2005 13:50, Jon Berndt wrote: This short reference: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and , (comma) keys. There is no comma on the numeric keypad. This is confusing. Then you have a keyboard with US

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Jon Berndt
So there's nothing wrong with it, it's just that every user has another kind of keyboard layout. ;) Best Regards, Oliver C. Aha! Well, yes, I understand, now, but for newbies from the U.S. it will be wrong. I'll modify the PDF and send it to Curt (or whoever maintains that doc). It needs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Gerard Robin
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 20:03 +0200, Oliver C. a crit : On Sunday 19 June 2005 13:50, Jon Berndt wrote: This short reference: http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/FGShortRef.pdf shows the rudder control on the numeric keypad as being the 0 and , (comma) keys. There is no comma on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Berndt wrote: Aha! Well, yes, I understand, now, but for newbies from the U.S. it will be wrong. I'll modify the PDF and send it to Curt (or whoever maintains that doc). It needs to be clear. Aha ? In fact the notation in the cheat sheet _is_ correct and clear, why the hell do you want to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Jon Berndt
Aha ? In fact the notation in the cheat sheet _is_ correct and clear, why the hell do you want to break it ? It's just a matter of point of view an I assume there are _many_ FlightGear users out there that have a comma as a decimal separator - it's just that they probably don't live in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt wrote: Aha ? In fact the notation in the cheat sheet _is_ correct and clear, why the hell do you want to break it ? It's just a matter of point of view an I assume there are _many_ FlightGear users out there that have a comma as a decimal separator - it's just that they probably

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread bass pumped
Hi guys, Since you are updating the documentation, I think it might be a good idea to include the byte order lists of the various input/ouput protocols. It would help someone who would want to fly flightgear through some external application, and especially help those who are building external

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Oliver C.
On Sunday 19 June 2005 22:20, Jon Berndt wrote: Aha ? In fact the notation in the cheat sheet _is_ correct and clear, why the hell do you want to break it ? It's just a matter of point of view an I assume there are _many_ FlightGear users out there that have a comma as a decimal separator

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Jon Berndt wrote: I think you are making a disingenuous assumption, here, on what I am saying. It IS correct and clear for*European*users, yes. All that I did to the PDF document was to add a _note_ in the appropriate section in brackets that says: [U.S. keyboards use . instead of ,] Now

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Theo Reticle
Hear hear. - Original Message - From: Oliver C. To: FlightGear developers discussions Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] "Short Reference" Document error? On Sunday 19 June 2005 22:20, Jon Berndt wrote: Aha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Berndt wrote: Are you opposed, in principle, to providing U.S. users with accurate information? I don't understand what's got you so hot about this. It's an international project. Let's be clear for everyone. This complies entirely with my intention. Please excuse me for missing the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Gerard Robin
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 23:27 +0200, Harald JOHNSEN a crit : Jon Berndt wrote: I think you are making a disingenuous assumption, here, on what I am saying. It IS correct and clear for*European*users, yes. All that I did to the PDF document was to add a _note_ in the appropriate section

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Jon Berndt
So, you think the UK is part of Europe, eh? We use the same convention as the US for ./, Vivian. Heh. :-) What's above the number 4 (not on the numeric keypad)? Is it a $ or a ? (not sure that will print correctly)? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Jon Berndt
This complies entirely with my intention. Please excuse me for missing the point - from reading your comment I had the impression you simply changed the comma to a dot in the PDF. Please send me a copy of your PDF and I'll change the TeX source accordingly. Thanks - will do. I'm currently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:33:19 -0500, Jon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, you think the UK is part of Europe, eh? We use the same convention as the US for ./, Vivian. Heh. :-) What's above the number 4 (not on the numeric keypad)? Is it a $ or a ? (not sure that will print

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Short Reference Document error?

2005-06-19 Thread Andy Ross
Oliver C. wrote: Maybe it sounded in your first letter like that you may be one of those Americans who allways try to make the USA the center of the world. It should be pointed out that those Americans live almost exclusively in your television set. Real people, even republicans, are