[Flightgear-devel] Re: Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Wednesday 26 June 2002 03:10: I now think that was a mistake, since people probably want their own, local, customized .cvsignore files if they want any at all. Huh?? You think that everybody should maintain his own .cvsignore files now? They are supposed to list all

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Glut font format

2002-06-26 Thread Norman Vine
Andy Ross writes: Norman Vine wrote: I think that you will find that inorder to get 'high quality' fonts one needs to use a vector based font directly. The only problem in doing this is that the polygon count goes up considerably. Have you tried the antialiased fonts in KDE, WinXP or recent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread julianfoad
I don't mind either way. I have found it generally useful to have them provided, and have wished the plib would do the same (for .deps directories, in particular). However, I have only ever worked on small patches, never adding files, so I have never needed to take note of the ? and unknown

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread Norman Vine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wwrites: I have found it generally useful to have them provided, and have wished the plib would do the same (for .deps directories, in particular). FYI the FlightGear 'configure' is designed to be able to be run in a directory other then then the CVS source tree. This has

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread julianfoad
FYI the FlightGear 'configure' is designed to be able to be run in a directory other then then the CVS source tree. That sounds well worth a try. Thanks. This has several advantages amongst them keeping the source tree MUCH cleaner :-) And being able to keep a debug build and a release

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread Cameron Moore
Personally, I agree with Fred. The number of people who will actually be using a custom cvsignore will be far fewer than those of us who will not. Can you make your custom cvsignore read-only so cvs can't stomp on it? * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic BOUVIER) [2002.06.26 07:09]: Yes, but people

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Remove .cvsignore?

2002-06-26 Thread David Megginson
Cameron Moore writes: Personally, I agree with Fred. The number of people who will actually be using a custom cvsignore will be far fewer than those of us who will not. That seems to be the consensus -- I won't remove them. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-4C attitude indicator

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: * For safety. The A-4 had automatic slats that were retracted by aerodynamic force -- they dropped automatically at low airspeeds and high AoA's. On the ground, they just hung open. This was a great idea for maintenance purposes, but left open the possibility that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-4C attitude indicator

2002-06-26 Thread Gene Buckle
that is simple and effective. I've always thought it would be kind of fun to impliment something like this on an R/C model, not that the typical R/C model would need them ... I once saw an F-4 with controllable slats - they weren't automagic though. The Bf-109 and Me-110 has aerodynamic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spiffy new panel gadget

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: I should explain the problem a little better. What's happening is that there is no place to put a normal vector in the .ac file. The plib loader thus has to generate its own normals by averaging the normals of each polygon attached to a vertex. For vertices that are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-4C attitude indicator

2002-06-26 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:08, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy Ross writes: * For safety. The A-4 had automatic slats that were retracted by aerodynamic force -- they dropped automatically at low airspeeds and high AoA's. On the ground, they just hung open. This was a great idea for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-4C attitude indicator

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:08, Curtis L. Olson wrote: The helio courier also has this feature. The leading edge slats are split so you have two per wing ... four total acting independently of each other. Depending on a variety of factors, each of the four could deploy/retract at a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ANN: C172P Hi-Res Panel Photos

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ryan Larson writes: I can get hires photos of a Warrior, Archer, Arrow, Grumman Tiger, Beechcraft Sierra, C182, C172R, C172RG, Mooney 201, Saratoga II and possibly an Aztec F. I love my new flying club! What do we have and what do we need? Would it also be helpful to get hires photos

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A-4C attitude indicator

2002-06-26 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 15:15, Curtis L. Olson wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:08, Curtis L. Olson wrote: The helio courier also has this feature. The leading edge slats are split so you have two per wing ... four total acting independently of each other. Depending on a variety of

[Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Setting all the view offsets to 0 I was able to prove that the position/rotation matrices generated on the model and the camera are numerically identical. Here's a sample from the dump: POS Aircraft 0.823776 -0.150286 -0.546632 0.00 0.468893 0.722572 0.507965 0.00 0.318641 -0.674762

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Setting all the view offsets to 0 I was able to prove that the position/rotation matrices generated on the model and the camera are numerically identical. Here's a sample from the dump: POS Aircraft 0.823776 -0.150286 -0.546632 0.00 0.468893 0.722572 0.507965

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This tells me the problem is most likely in plib, or at least plib is where we send these numbers. On further investigation, it appears that this is almost certainly due to normal variation in fdm position and orientation output. The variations are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer Engine project started

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
ace project writes: In my previous mail (Multplayer efforts ?) We asked for the status on multiplayer-capabilities. We received responses that suggested that such an engine was not maintained for a while. We ourselves could use the engine for adding NPC to the project, but thats still a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: On further investigation, it appears that this is almost certainly due to normal variation in fdm position and orientation output. The variations are probably correct, but the way 3D rendering works you get what appears to be a jump when a pixel boundry is crossed. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: On further investigation, it appears that this is almost certainly due to normal variation in fdm position and orientation output. This theory doesn't work though. Think about it: in cockpit mode, the orientation of the aircraft is bolted to the FDM orientation. If the FDM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: It seems strange that everything else in the cockpit and 3d model of the aircraft is perfectly stable and only this one instrument is jittery. Actually, the whole cockpit is jittering. The ball just has more high-frequency information to catch your eye. The panel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] jitters testing

2002-06-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems strange that everything else in the cockpit and 3d model of the aircraft is perfectly stable and only this one instrument is jittery. That's an optical illusion. Turn off the panel and you'll see that the whole

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New panel code

2002-06-26 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: 1. Can you post a copy of your modified base-package files (a4-yasim-set.xml and a4-blue.xml)? The -set files don't require any significant changes -- just remove the panel entries and that's it. The model files for the A-4 and 172 are attached. All they needed is a