Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] texture animation patch

2003-07-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote:
Fixed texture translation so step and scroll values work with interpolation
tables as well.  Moved step/scroll calculation to utility function to improve
code readability.
Done.

Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Matt Fienberg wrote:
Please excuse the off-topic post...  But I'm too proud to hold back.
Completed my first solo flight as PIC tonight at 13.9 hours.
No problem. It was a nice and sometimes hilarious story. I particularly 
like the part of the empty seat next to you. :-)

Good to see FlightGear is already up to a point where it can help as a 
training tool.

Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Spott
Matt Fienberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, I dropped off the instructor, taxi-ed back to hold short of taxiway
 Bravo, and called Worcester ground (KORH) with a somewhat awkward,
 I-forget-what-I'm-supposed-to-say-and-in-what-order call.

Ha ! I think I know what you're talking about 
For us people that are no native english speakers, there's a second hurdle:
In case you manage to get your 'tale' onto the wire in the correct order,
then you still have to fear the response.

I've been in France over the weekend for the annual French experimental
(RSA) meeting at Chambley (40 km south-west from Metz (LFJL) and on saturday
we headed for Idar-Oberstein (EDGR, not in FlightGear) to have lunch (you
can order from within flight  ;-)
You really don't have any idea how you have to deal with French ATC speaking
english  ;-)  Our pilot was quite good at French (I filled the role as the
'navigator'), otherwise we'd probably been pretty lost  :-)

Thanks for your report - I'm getting jealous  ;-)

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Geoff Drake
Hi Matt

Congratulations.

I did my first solo about five years ago and as you have just found out
there is nothing quite like it!!!  I too looked over at the empty seat and
grinned.

Keep up the good work.

Best wishes
Geoff Drake
(UK PPL).


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Please excuse the off-topic post...  But I'm too proud to hold back.
Completed my first solo flight as PIC tonight at 13.9 hours.

Before dropping off the instructor at the parking area, I did seven
touch and goes dual.  I was supposed to do three, but I needed a little
more confidence in my landings...  After five, I was confident enough,
and just kept radio-ing in without announcing full stop...  Oh, well,
one more time around.   And yet one more

The last touch and go prior to solo was a little interesting on the
take-off   As I'm approaching rotation speed (~55 KIAS on a C152) I
notice there's something in front of me making it's way across runway 29
from right to left, about 5 feet from the centerline.  I think I got us
in the air about 20 feet prior to a turkey dinner.  ;)

So, I dropped off the instructor, taxi-ed back to hold short of taxiway
Bravo, and called Worcester ground (KORH) with a somewhat awkward,
I-forget-what-I'm-supposed-to-say-and-in-what-order call.  There was no
other traffic in the pattern except for a 172 who just taxied out ahead
of me.  Hopefully they were tuned to tower, and not ground, but I doubt
it...  I'm sure the student and instructor in the 172 got a chuckle
Anyway, I got my clearance to taxi, held short of 29-er, and called to
tower for take of for left closed traffic.  Got all the words in cleanly
this time...  Cleared for takeoff, and lights, camera, action, as my
instructor says.  (Landing light, transponder to ALT, and slowly open up
the throttle to full.)  Next thing I know, I'm at about 55 KIAS, and I'm
airborne.  And nobody nagging me to hold 67 KIAS!  (Best rate of
climb.)  I kept looking over at the empty seat, as my grin grew from ear
to ear!  This is *GREAT*!

Winds were [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not a big deal, but I did fall victim to it
*every* time.  (With and without the instructor.)  Every turn from
downwind to base ended past the point where I needed to start the turn
to final.  Every turn to final overshot, and I needed to correct quite a
bit.

First landing was pretty uneventful, aside from the pilot giving a
wahoo! that could probably be heard from miles away.  Upwind wheel
first, then downwind, then nose.  Pretty smooth.  Probably my best
landing yet.  (Who needs that extra baggage in the right seat?)

Second landing  well, I made it work.  I got extended on downwind,
since the radio was tied up by an incoming Bonanza.  I've been in this
position before, but it still makes me nervous...  Had I been more
confident, I'd have slowed my flight to not extend downwind too far
outside the normal pattern.  By the time the Bonanza conversation with
ATC was done, tower contacted me, and said I was cleared number 2,
behind the Bonanza.  Report traffic in sight.  Well, I knew where it
had to be.  Straight in approach to runway 29er.  Could not find it for
the life of me.  Finally I find him almost abeam me, and about 200 feet
below on long final.  After radio-ing that I had traffic in sight, I
thought that the tower was going to joke that he was already on the
ground...  The Bonanza pilot was probably waving his arms at me for 30
seconds...  In any case, with him past me, and clearance from the tower,
I made my turn, and tried to adjust for the long extended downwind.  I
kept power in at about 2000 RPM to hold altitude until the picture
looked right to be on final.  Next thing I know, I'm descending at about
85-90 KIAS, and I'm *high*.  I pulled power out completely, and did my
best to slowly pitch up to slow myself, such that I could get the first
stage of flaps in.  Long story short, I went from too high to too low,
and pushed power back in.  Moderate side-slip got me lined up pretty
well, and pulled power once again when I knew I'd made the threshold.
Thud-ed the landing...   Not too bad, I guess.  (Yes, I've had worse,
and I'm sure, will again...)

Third time around was uneventful, except that I misjudged the flare a
bit.  I was unpowered at that point, and flared with too much speed.
Ballooned up a bit, then had too little speed to really flare properly
the second time around.  I should have added power to get it under
control, and re-approach at 65 KIAS again.  But I didn't, and tried to
glide it back down.  Thud.  Okay, bring back the right seat baggage...
I apparently need some more work.

My instructor was just glowing when I got back.  I think he was more
excited than I was.  He made some comment about seeing his kid taking
his first steps.  I now call him Dad.  He was very impressed with my

re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes:

  Please excuse the off-topic post...  But I'm too proud to hold back.
  Completed my first solo flight as PIC tonight at 13.9 hours.

Congratulations!

  First landing was pretty uneventful, aside from the pilot giving a
  wahoo! that could probably be heard from miles away.  Upwind wheel
  first, then downwind, then nose.  Pretty smooth.  Probably my best
  landing yet.  (Who needs that extra baggage in the right seat?)

Did tower know that it was your first solo?  Around here, the schools
always quietly phone tower in advance, and tower ensures that you get
an easy circuit and congratulates you afterwards over the frequency
just before handing you off to ground (so that all the big airliners
get to hear as well).  From what I've heard, that's common at many
towered airports.

  My instructor was just glowing when I got back.  I think he was
  more excited than I was.  He made some comment about seeing his kid
  taking his first steps.  I now call him Dad.  He was very
  impressed with my progress, and we both attribute much of it to
  FlightGear.  It's certainly paying off.  He's now thinking about
  getting FlightGear in the office, partly to play with, and partly
  to teach/demonstrate.

Great stuff.

  PIC 0.6.   Hmmm...  not so impressiveyet.  ;)

That number will increase rapidly.  Did you go through any post-solo
rituals?  In the U.S., I know, the instructor often cuts off your
shirt-tail after the first solo.  At the Ottawa Flying Club, they
throw a large garbage pail full of ice water on you, even in the
winter (I got two, just for good measure).


All the best, and congrats again,


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RE: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread David Megginson
Geoff Drake writes:

  I did my first solo about five years ago and as you have just found out
  there is nothing quite like it!!!  I too looked over at the empty seat and
  grinned.

I'd just like to mention that while first solo was great, the
highlight of the PPL training (for me) was the first solo
cross-country.  The best is still ahead ...


All the best,


David

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[Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Alex Perry
From: Matt Fienberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Winds were [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not a big deal, but I did fall victim to it
 *every* time.  (With and without the instructor.)  Every turn from
 downwind to base ended past the point where I needed to start the turn
 to final.  Every turn to final overshot, and I needed to correct quite a
 bit.

Lucky you don't have two runways.  Tower can get quite sarcastic at your
expense if you keep overshooting the turn.  When you make the turn and
are lined up for L when you should be R, they might change your clearance
because they're not sure you can make it back to R in time to land.
Later, they'll clear you for L and, when you overshoot that turn too,
apologize that they don't have a third runway to the left of L.  Etc.

Congratulations.  Did you like the improved climb performance ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


David Megginson wrote:

 Matt Fienberg writes:

   Please excuse the off-topic post...  But I'm too proud to hold back.
   Completed my first solo flight as PIC tonight at 13.9 hours.

 Congratulations!

Why, thank you (all)!


   First landing was pretty uneventful, aside from the pilot giving a
   wahoo! that could probably be heard from miles away.  Upwind wheel
   first, then downwind, then nose.  Pretty smooth.  Probably my best
   landing yet.  (Who needs that extra baggage in the right seat?)

 Did tower know that it was your first solo?  Around here, the schools
 always quietly phone tower in advance, and tower ensures that you get
 an easy circuit and congratulates you afterwards over the frequency
 just before handing you off to ground (so that all the big airliners
 get to hear as well).  From what I've heard, that's common at many
 towered airports.


Yes, my instructor told me that he'd call the tower to let them know.  I
got no indication from the tower that anything was different though.  On
the second of three touch and goes, I couldn't radio in at midfield since
there was an ongoing discussion between tower and an incoming Bonanza on an
instrument approach.  Finally, I hear him clear the Bonanza to land on
29er, and then he immediately calls me to let me know I'm number two.  At
this point, I'm still about 1000 AGL, now venturing out over the city of
Worcester...  I panicked a little bit, and later heard that my instructor
did too...  Speech was very clear over the radio, so maybe the phone call
had some effect.  Not that they'd disrupt an instrument approach to get a
solo 152 to touch and go ahead of them


   My instructor was just glowing when I got back.  I think he was
   more excited than I was.  He made some comment about seeing his kid
   taking his first steps.  I now call him Dad.  He was very
   impressed with my progress, and we both attribute much of it to
   FlightGear.  It's certainly paying off.  He's now thinking about
   getting FlightGear in the office, partly to play with, and partly
   to teach/demonstrate.

 Great stuff.

   PIC 0.6.   Hmmm...  not so impressiveyet.  ;)

 That number will increase rapidly.  Did you go through any post-solo
 rituals?  In the U.S., I know, the instructor often cuts off your
 shirt-tail after the first solo.  At the Ottawa Flying Club, they
 throw a large garbage pail full of ice water on you, even in the
 winter (I got two, just for good measure).

 All the best, and congrats again,

 David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


David Megginson wrote:

 Geoff Drake writes:

   I did my first solo about five years ago and as you have just found out
   there is nothing quite like it!!!  I too looked over at the empty seat and
   grinned.

 I'd just like to mention that while first solo was great, the
 highlight of the PPL training (for me) was the first solo
 cross-country.  The best is still ahead ...


I can't wait!  Thanks!


 All the best,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes:

  Actually, I do fear the response.  I know the language (and am
  learning the new lingo...) and still have trouble.  My hearing was
  easily good enough to pass the medical (can you hear me now?), but
  I have a lot of trouble picking out voices from a crowd.

Buy some foam earplugs: put them in your ears first, then put on your
(presumably PNR) headset, then turn the radio up a bit.  The foam
earplugs work mostly on background noise, so you'll have less
background rumble and clearer radio.


All the best,


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes:

  Yes, my instructor told me that he'd call the tower to let them
  know.  I got no indication from the tower that anything was
  different though.  On the second of three touch and goes, I
  couldn't radio in at midfield since there was an ongoing discussion
  between tower and an incoming Bonanza on an instrument approach.
  Finally, I hear him clear the Bonanza to land on 29er, and then he
  immediately calls me to let me know I'm number two.  At this point,
  I'm still about 1000 AGL, now venturing out over the city of
  Worcester...  I panicked a little bit, and later heard that my
  instructor did too...  Speech was very clear over the radio, so
  maybe the phone call had some effect.  Not that they'd disrupt an
  instrument approach to get a solo 152 to touch and go ahead of
  them

Please remember that your 152 VFR has the same importance as a Bonanza
IFR (or a 747, for that matter), unless the other flight happens to be
a medevac, a declared emergency, or something similar.  The tower
chooses priorities based on safety and traffic flow, not aircraft size
or IFR/VFR.

I've often had tower ask a big airliner on an IFR approach to reduce
to minimum approach speed so that I can slip in in front (as a
courtesy, I usually increase my approach speed to about 110-120 kias
so that there's not any serious delay, and so that I feel less guilty
for holding up 200-300 passengers).


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


David Megginson wrote:

 Matt Fienberg writes:

   Actually, I do fear the response.  I know the language (and am
   learning the new lingo...) and still have trouble.  My hearing was
   easily good enough to pass the medical (can you hear me now?), but
   I have a lot of trouble picking out voices from a crowd.

 Buy some foam earplugs: put them in your ears first, then put on your
 (presumably PNR) headset, then turn the radio up a bit.  The foam
 earplugs work mostly on background noise, so you'll have less
 background rumble and clearer radio.

That's an interesting idea.  I'll give it a try.  Thanks!

-Matt



 All the best,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


Alex Perry wrote:

 From: Matt Fienberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Winds were [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is not a big deal, but I did fall victim to it
  *every* time.  (With and without the instructor.)  Every turn from
  downwind to base ended past the point where I needed to start the turn
  to final.  Every turn to final overshot, and I needed to correct quite a
  bit.

 Lucky you don't have two runways.  Tower can get quite sarcastic at your
 expense if you keep overshooting the turn.  When you make the turn and
 are lined up for L when you should be R, they might change your clearance
 because they're not sure you can make it back to R in time to land.
 Later, they'll clear you for L and, when you overshoot that turn too,
 apologize that they don't have a third runway to the left of L.  Etc.


Well, there are two runways, 29/11 and 33/15, but not parallel...
Overshooting 29 on left traffic doesn't leave you with too many options...


 Congratulations.  Did you like the improved climb performance ?


Of course...  Anything's better than a 152 at full weight...  ;)


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg

 That number will increase rapidly.  Did you go through any post-solo
 rituals?  In the U.S., I know, the instructor often cuts off your
 shirt-tail after the first solo.  At the Ottawa Flying Club, they
 throw a large garbage pail full of ice water on you, even in the
 winter (I got two, just for good measure).

I've seen some pictures of torn shirts on the wall, but I think those were
PPL, not first solo, although I could be wrong...  No, there was nothing
more than a couple of Polaroids.  One goes on the instructor's wall, the
other for the student.  I might have welcomed the ice water.  It was about
85 degrees, and at 7PM, I was staring into the sun on both departure and
final legs on runway 29...  Although the pools of sweat may have had
nothing to do with temperature at all...  ;)

-Matt



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


David Megginson wrote:

 Matt Fienberg writes:

   Yes, my instructor told me that he'd call the tower to let them
   know.  I got no indication from the tower that anything was
   different though.  On the second of three touch and goes, I
   couldn't radio in at midfield since there was an ongoing discussion
   between tower and an incoming Bonanza on an instrument approach.
   Finally, I hear him clear the Bonanza to land on 29er, and then he
   immediately calls me to let me know I'm number two.  At this point,
   I'm still about 1000 AGL, now venturing out over the city of
   Worcester...  I panicked a little bit, and later heard that my
   instructor did too...  Speech was very clear over the radio, so
   maybe the phone call had some effect.  Not that they'd disrupt an
   instrument approach to get a solo 152 to touch and go ahead of
   them

 Please remember that your 152 VFR has the same importance as a Bonanza
 IFR (or a 747, for that matter), unless the other flight happens to be
 a medevac, a declared emergency, or something similar.  The tower
 chooses priorities based on safety and traffic flow, not aircraft size
 or IFR/VFR.

This is true.  But I'm glad that the controller didn't give me any special
treatment.  When I finally did get a visual on the Bonanza, he was
cruising in.  He'd have had to slow quite a bit to get me in first.
What's the phrase, head for the numbers?  Maybe he took the first solo
phone call into account and decided to be nice and make me number 2...

 I've often had tower ask a big airliner on an IFR approach to reduce
 to minimum approach speed so that I can slip in in front (as a
 courtesy, I usually increase my approach speed to about 110-120 kias
 so that there's not any serious delay, and so that I feel less guilty
 for holding up 200-300 passengers).

So it was you that made me late...!;)  Well, it can take several
minutes for the wake to dissipate, so the quick drop in advance does save
you quite a bit of time...


 All the best,

 David

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [fgsd-devel] Building better Airports

2003-07-21 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Martin Spott wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 02:43:03PM +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

  Do you read the file description of default.apt. It is at
  http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/AirNav/AptNavFAQ.FlightGear.html
 
  All runways and taxiways are rectangles in this format.

 I'm not quite shure if it's already clear what happens to  manually
 additions to the airport database. Right now FG sticks to the database
 provided by Robin Peel - and he did not manage to do a release in
FlightGear
 format for ages  :-(

 We had a discussion some weeks ago but I must have missed the final
 decision,

I think there was already some manual modifications to the default.apt.gz
file.

The idea of a distributed database based on XML files spread in a file
system hierarchy was already discussed, but the needed infrastructure
needs someone to jump in.

 Martin.
 P.S.: X-post to fg-devel

Ok ( you screwed the fg-devel address so the original post would not
appear )

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Jim Wilson
Matt Fienberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Please excuse the off-topic post...  But I'm too proud to hold back.
 Completed my first solo flight as PIC tonight at 13.9 hours.

Congratulations!

 par, but I think he may see the benefit in upgrading...  Does anybody
 know if there's a way to generate an mpeg of a flight?

I wish I more info, but there is something that runs under windows.  I've seen
mpegs made from other opengl applications using a windows based utility that
captures the contents of an opengl window.  It probably isn't free in either
sense of the word, but I don't think it was all that expensive.

 in a 152 seat, and put Flightgear to real use!  Trust me, you'll all
 love it.  (No, I won't finance it  ;)

Dang :-)

Thanks for the great story!  Maybe we should start a wiki page of these kinds
of postings as well :-)

Best,

Jim

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes:

  So it was you that made me late...!  ;) Well, it can take several
  minutes for the wake to dissipate, so the quick drop in advance
  does save you quite a bit of time...

Airliners approach on a very low (2-3 degree) glidepath, while a
152/172 or Cherokee can easily drop in from much higher.  If you're
following an airliner visually, just stay high and aim for the middle
of the runway (it has to be long if an airliner's using it), assuming
no LAHSO.

On of my most exciting approaches was literally almost on top of a
737.  Tower had me turn straight to the threshold when the 737 was on
short final.  I stayed 600 ft AGL to the threshold, arriving almost on
top of the 737, then just did a normal approach to land in the far end
of the runway.  The 737, which was (of course) faster, landed ahead of
me and exited long before my planned touchdown point.


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On of my most exciting approaches was literally almost on top of a
 737.  Tower had me turn straight to the threshold when the 737 was on
 short final.  I stayed 600 ft AGL to the threshold, arriving almost on
 top of the 737, then just did a normal approach to land in the far end
 of the runway.  The 737, which was (of course) faster, landed ahead of
 me and exited long before my planned touchdown point.

You should visit Chambley so see similar situations occuring permanently for
several hours (it's probably the same with Oshkosh). When the weather is
fine many hundred aircrafts ('air vehicles'  ;-)  come to visit the meeting
on an old NATO airbase on Saturday morning. Very often _three_ aircraft
are in final approach simultaneously from top to down: 1.) commercial
aircraft, 2.) ultralight, 3.) _real_ ultralight (trike or similar). The
runway is that large that approaching is done on the right half on the
runway while some other bird takes off on the left half - while about a
dozend aircraft is on downwind or makes the final turn for approach.

You don't believe your eyes when you see this but the never had an accident
in all the years,

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[Flightgear-devel] Black sky with CVS version

2003-07-21 Thread Lawrence Manning
Hi,

Running latest CVS now (well, as of yesterday).  Flying 747 out of default 
airport.  I did not know autopoilot could take off.  No idea if this is a 
designed feature, but it is nice.

After flying around for a little while to look at the Golden Gate Bridge 
(VERY nice), I paused to take some screenshots with the outside view.  
Upon restarting with P, everything went black.  Everything, that is, 
except for the hud.  Switching to outside views showed everything except 
the tower view to be completely black.  Zooming etc showed nothing except 
the hud.  Interestingly, the tower view appeared ok, *except* for the 
space between the clouds being black (looked kind of freaky...)  Anyone 
seen this?  Is it worth syncing to the latest code?  Wild guess, but could 
this be related to the replay code?

Lawrence



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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear sound libraries?

2003-07-21 Thread Matevz Jekovec
I wonder, which libraries does FlightGear use, in order to get sound 
working on all platforms? I thought it was OSS, but AFAIK OSS hasn't 
been ported to other non-unix systems?

Thanks in advance.

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear sound libraries?

2003-07-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Matevz Jekovec -- Monday 21 July 2003 23:27:
 I wonder, which libraries does FlightGear use, in order to get sound 
 working on all platforms? I thought it was OSS, but AFAIK OSS hasn't 
 been ported to other non-unix systems?

It uses PLIB's sound interface, which uses OSS for Linux, and others
for other OSes. See plib/src/sl/slDSP.cxx

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear sound libraries?

2003-07-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Matevz Jekovec writes:
 I wonder, which libraries does FlightGear use, in order to get sound 
 working on all platforms? I thought it was OSS, but AFAIK OSS hasn't 
 been ported to other non-unix systems?

FlightGear uses plib's sound system as a portability layer; I'm not
sure what all plib supports.

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Black sky with CVS version

2003-07-21 Thread Jim Wilson
Lawrence Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Running latest CVS now (well, as of yesterday).  Flying 747 out of default 
 airport.  I did not know autopoilot could take off.  No idea if this is a 
 designed feature, but it is nice.
 
 After flying around for a little while to look at the Golden Gate Bridge 
 (VERY nice), I paused to take some screenshots with the outside view.  
 Upon restarting with P, everything went black.  Everything, that is, 
 except for the hud.  Switching to outside views showed everything except 
 the tower view to be completely black.  Zooming etc showed nothing except 
 the hud.  Interestingly, the tower view appeared ok, *except* for the 
 space between the clouds being black (looked kind of freaky...)  Anyone 
 seen this?  Is it worth syncing to the latest code?  Wild guess, but could 
 this be related to the replay code?

There is a bug.  I've noticed this from time to time lately, but haven't had a
chance to track it down.  It's been there for a two or three weeks now. It
isn't any one aircraft or fdm involved,  but there are a few things I've
noticed might be pattern related:

1) The tile loader blows up.

2) The viewer seems to be broken recently (pause screws up something).

3) The failure could be happening with autothrottle engaged.

In any case I'll investigate further, if anyone has more info it would be
appreciated.

Best,

Jim

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Black sky with CVS version

2003-07-21 Thread Jim Wilson
OK I've submitted a patch for this.  The view damping still seems to cause
some issues on pause.  The blacked sky is fixed though.

Best,

Jim

Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Lawrence Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  Running latest CVS now (well, as of yesterday).  Flying 747 out of default 
  airport.  I did not know autopoilot could take off.  No idea if this is a 
  designed feature, but it is nice.
  
  After flying around for a little while to look at the Golden Gate Bridge 
  (VERY nice), I paused to take some screenshots with the outside view.  
  Upon restarting with P, everything went black.  Everything, that is, 
  except for the hud.  Switching to outside views showed everything except 
  the tower view to be completely black.  Zooming etc showed nothing except 
  the hud.  Interestingly, the tower view appeared ok, *except* for the 
  space between the clouds being black (looked kind of freaky...)  Anyone 
  seen this?  Is it worth syncing to the latest code?  Wild guess, but could 
  this be related to the replay code?
 
 There is a bug.  I've noticed this from time to time lately, but haven't had a
 chance to track it down.  It's been there for a two or three weeks now. It
 isn't any one aircraft or fdm involved,  but there are a few things I've
 noticed might be pattern related:
 
 1) The tile loader blows up.
 
 2) The viewer seems to be broken recently (pause screws up something).
 
 3) The failure could be happening with autothrottle engaged.
 
 In any case I'll investigate further, if anyone has more info it would be
 appreciated.
 
 Best,
 
 Jim
 
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[Flightgear-devel] RE: OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matthew Law
Congratulations!

I'm sure the rest of the training will be over in no time and it's good to 
hear that FG is proving helpful.  I'm intending on investing in a yoke and 
pedals over winter when the weather robs me of some regular training and I've 
already noticed the realism of the flight models in flightgear over other 
flight sims.  Especially when adjusting final with throttle etc.

Unlike you, my last lesson I'd rather forget - second attempt at circuits and 
first time on runway 18 at EGNF. With a TORA of 382 metres it is apparently 
the UK's shortest licensed and also feels like the UK's bumpiest too!  Oh, 
and a  30 deg crosswind for good measure!!!

I bounced in every time and almost took the far fence with me on one of the 
touch and go's.  I've got a long way to go yet... :-(

Hopefully, the short and soft field location will make me a better pilot.  My 
instructor (in a futile attempt to stop me getting downhearted) mentioned 
that students and low time PPLs from larger airfields often have trouble 
landing on 18 and that I'd get it eventually.  Perhaps I'll be a 100 hour PPL 
graduate!

Cheers,

Matt.

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[Flightgear-devel] do you guys know this set of data?

2003-07-21 Thread pandora
A guy called Rafael is using this dataset (url below) (the South America part)
to improve the terrain in MS Flight Simulator. Here are some before-after
screenshots of some parts of Brazil:

http://www.aerovirtual.com.br/br-mesh.html

I asked him (Rafael) where he got this data, and he gave me this
URL:

http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/

He also said he uses flightgear, perhaps he is even subscribed to this list :)
He also thinks flightgear could benefit from this data (but I suppose he
prefers FS for now). Does anybody else know how to make flightgear benefit
from this?


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[Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100

2003-07-21 Thread Jim Wilson
Just a few quick commands that will improve the appearance a little:

1) Select everything in object mode, just like it is when you first load the
model in ac3d.

2) Object menu, optimize vertices.

3) Leave all selected, switch to Vertex mode.

4) Vertex menu, select Snap together by distance.  A value if 0.005 should
be enough so it works and doesn't mess anything up.

5) Back to Object mode.

6) Object menu, optimize vertices again.

7) Object menu, optimize surfaces.

Watch in the 3D view as things get a little better while you do these.  As you
work you can perform the vertex optimizations (on a single object) any time
you merge objects and the surface optimization any time you delete vertices
and a blue line shows up.

I hope this suggestion doesn't come across as impolite.  You are doing *far*
better than I did with AC3D the first few months I had it.  The Fokker is
really looking great!

Best,

Jim

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: OT: First solo!

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Fienberg


Matthew Law wrote:

 Congratulations!

Thank you!

 I'm sure the rest of the training will be over in no time and it's good to
 hear that FG is proving helpful.  I'm intending on investing in a yoke and
 pedals over winter when the weather robs me of some regular training and I've
 already noticed the realism of the flight models in flightgear over other
 flight sims.  Especially when adjusting final with throttle etc.

 Unlike you, my last lesson I'd rather forget - second attempt at circuits and
 first time on runway 18 at EGNF. With a TORA of 382 metres it is apparently
 the UK's shortest licensed and also feels like the UK's bumpiest too!  Oh,
 and a  30 deg crosswind for good measure!!!

Don't give up.  Everything that I've heard says that training in more difficult
enviroments does generate better skills.  (Ever see a western US skier come to
ski in New England?  I thought not...  They learn in powder, and can't adjust to
the sheet of ice we call a slope.)  I'm not familiar with the term TORA, but I'll
assume thats a runway length of about 1250 ft, if my I'm doing the math in my
head correctly...  I have the luxury of two runways to chose from of 7000' and
5000'.  And they're in great condition.  KORH had commercial airline traffic
until very recently.  If I want to work on crosswind landings, I can always
request the other runway.  I wonder how I'll do at a short runway...  Actually, I
won't find out anytime soon.  The rental agreement says a minimum of 2500'.

Keep at it, and mirror your real flights on Flightgear.  Set yourself up on long
final, reduce to 1500 RPM, drop in your flaps, and hold 65 KIAS.  Adjust pitch to
control your airspeed, and adjust power to keep that threshold steady on the
windshield.  When you know you've got the threshold made, drop out power to idle,
and lift the nose slightly to counter act the power drop, and slowly level it
off.  Odds are, if you're bouncing consistantly, that you're flaring too high,
but at the right speed.  (I'm assuming you're not ballooning... If you are, and
that's why your bouncing, you're not burning off enough speed before the flare.)

Cross wind landings are tough without rudder pedals.  Sideslips can certainly be
done with the mouse, but it's a hard thing to juggle.  For that, the best thing
is to just experiment on long final, and see how the aircraft reacts with crossed
controls.  Have your instructor run the length of the runway 10' in the air, and
slew the aircraft from side to side simply by adjusting the bank angle.  It's a
really enlightening experience.

 I bounced in every time and almost took the far fence with me on one of the
 touch and go's.  I've got a long way to go yet... :-(

 Hopefully, the short and soft field location will make me a better pilot.  My
 instructor (in a futile attempt to stop me getting downhearted) mentioned
 that students and low time PPLs from larger airfields often have trouble
 landing on 18 and that I'd get it eventually.  Perhaps I'll be a 100 hour PPL
 graduate!

You'll get there.  Who cares what the number is.  Can't expect to do it in
minimums in such a harsh environment.

Good luck,
Matt F.


 Cheers,

 Matt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Black sky with CVS version

2003-07-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 21 July 2003 23:55, Jim Wilson wrote:
 Lawrence Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  Running latest CVS now (well, as of yesterday).  Flying 747 out of default 
  airport.  I did not know autopoilot could take off.  No idea if this is a 
  designed feature, but it is nice.
  
  After flying around for a little while to look at the Golden Gate Bridge 
  (VERY nice), I paused to take some screenshots with the outside view.  
  Upon restarting with P, everything went black.  Everything, that is, 
  except for the hud.  Switching to outside views showed everything except 
  the tower view to be completely black.  Zooming etc showed nothing except 
  the hud.  Interestingly, the tower view appeared ok, *except* for the 
  space between the clouds being black (looked kind of freaky...)  Anyone 
  seen this?  Is it worth syncing to the latest code?  Wild guess, but could 
  this be related to the replay code?
 
 There is a bug.  I've noticed this from time to time lately, but haven't had 
a
 chance to track it down.  It's been there for a two or three weeks now. It
 isn't any one aircraft or fdm involved,  but there are a few things I've
 noticed might be pattern related:
 
 1) The tile loader blows up.
 
 2) The viewer seems to be broken recently (pause screws up something).
 
 3) The failure could be happening with autothrottle engaged.
 
 In any case I'll investigate further, if anyone has more info it would be
 appreciated.
 
 Best,
 
 Jim

I noticed that the lat and lon were getting corrupted (nans) so the tiles 
couldn't be found and the same time relative (to loc) views were getting 
screwed.  Monitoring a plot in Atlas showed this too.

I haven't tried the patch yet so you've probably already figured this:)

LeeE


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