Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 10 November 2007: L is used to engage in the aircraft carrier's catapult (see $FG_ROOT/Input/Keyboard/carrier-bindings.xml). So around 10 aircraft will overwrite the new lighting binding anyway. err ... the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gerard robin wrote Sent: 10 November 2007 09:29 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 10 November 2007: L is used to engage in the aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Gerard robin wrote There is only a the little number of persons who use and like the carriers, I'm not even sure about that. It's one of the frequently asked questions, and it seems as if everyone of the IRC regulars uses the carrier once in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ Sent: 10 November 2007 10:00 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment * Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Gerard robin wrote There is only a the little number of persons who use and like the

[Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
The c172c by John CHECK is broken since a long time. It references a file that doesn't exist: Error reading default aircraft: Failed to open file at $FG_ROOT/Aircraft/c172x/../c172r/c172r-base.xml And even if one changes that to use ../c172r/c172r-set.xml it doesn't work: Could not open

[Flightgear-devel] New aircraft for CVS - Pitts S1C

2007-11-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Over the last couple of weeks, I've been working on a Pitts S1C - the classic aerobatic biplane. It is available for download at http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pittss1c.tar.gz. Screenshot at http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pittss1c.jpg The model and FDM are fairly basic,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread alexis bory
Vivian Meazza a écrit : Melchior FRANZ Hmm ... ok. I'm just not sure if having two separate keys is a good thing. Maybe we should standardize on c ... toggle canopy C ... engage disengage (toggle) catapult \__c as in carrier Ctrl-c ... launch catapult / control the crew :-) l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft for CVS - Pitts S1C

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The included livery is for the well-known fictional beer company, Hmm ... I'm not sure if that's fictional enough. 20th Century Fox has already sued an Australian brewery for making Duff beer, although they aren't brewing beer themselves,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* alexis bory -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Vivian Meazza a écrit : Sounds reasonable to me. I Agree too. Umm ... it's only that I had forgotten that Ctrl-c is toggle clickable panel hotspots. So the plan doesn't work out exactly like that. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * alexis bory -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Vivian Meazza a écrit : Sounds reasonable to me. I Agree too. Umm ... it's only that I had forgotten that Ctrl-c is toggle clickable panel hotspots. So the plan doesn't work out exactly like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 10 November 2007, gerard robin wrote: A stupid question: Why is it necessary to have a key for lights, isn't it a cockpit feature with hotspot, and switch ? I'm guessing because pressing a key on the keyboard resembles the gesture of pressing a key inside a cockpit of a real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Jon S. Berndt
The C172x is an experimental model for use with JSBSim by itself. It's the aircraft model I use to test all the new features. It should not be released. Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melchior FRANZ Sent: Saturday, November 10,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft for CVS - Pitts S1C

2007-11-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Melchior wrote: * Stuart Buchanan -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The included livery is for the well-known fictional beer company, Hmm ... I'm not sure if that's fictional enough. 20th Century Fox has already sued an Australian brewery for making Duff beer, although they aren't brewing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The C172x is an experimental model for use with JSBSim by itself. It's the aircraft model I use to test all the new features. It should not be released. That only explains why it is in JSBSim's CVS. It does not explain why it should be in FGFS'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, David Megginson wrote: So, in summary, I think a single switch to turn on all required interior and exterior lights for night flying can be a big win for FlightGear. That sounds reasonable. But maybe a menu entry or setup dialog would be better for this - after all it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The C172x is an experimental model for use with JSBSim by itself. It's the aircraft model I use to test all the new features. The funny thing is, after I removed the reference to the non-existent file ... --- c172x-set.xml 20 Sep 2003

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft for CVS - Pitts S1C

2007-11-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
I wrote: From: Stuart Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 1:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft for CVS - Pitts S1C Melchior wrote: * Stuart Buchanan -- Saturday 10

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread SydSandy
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:59:58 +0100 Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: l ... lights (though most are operated via 3D cockpit switches!) L ... tail wheel lock Ctrl-l ... liveries (l for liveries is a bit exaggerated, anyway) m. Im not sure what you mean by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data keyboard.xml, 1.99, 1.100

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv32383 Modified Files: keyboard.xml Log Message: Reassign tail-wheel locking from 'l' to 'L' (previously unused), and use 'l' to toggle lighting. Index:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Jon S. Berndt
* Jon S. Berndt -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The C172x is an experimental model for use with JSBSim by itself. It's the aircraft model I use to test all the new features. It should not be released. That only explains why it is in JSBSim's CVS. It does not explain why it should be in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] c172x ... fix or kill?

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon S. Berndt -- Saturday 10 November 2007: * Jon S. Berndt -- Saturday 10 November 2007: The C172x is an experimental model [...] It should not be released. I think you missed my point. I was stating that I believe it should be removed from FlightGear CVS. It shouldn't have been there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data keyboard.xml, 1.99, 1.100

2007-11-10 Thread David Megginson
On 10/11/2007, gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can notice the update has been done , before we could give any opinion on the topic. Does it mean , that there is not any other alternative, and the CHOICE is that way nothing else :) :) :) From my original message: quote I just moved

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data keyboard.xml, 1.99, 1.100

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, David Megginson wrote: On 10/11/2007, gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can notice the update has been done , before we could give any opinion on the topic. Does it mean , that there is not any other alternative, and the CHOICE is that way nothing else :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data keyboard.xml, 1.99, 1.100

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
gerard robin Sent: 10 November 2007 18:37 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data keyboard.xml,1.99, 1.100 On sam 10 novembre 2007, David Megginson wrote: On 10/11/2007, gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can notice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread dave perry
David Megginson wrote: Switches are hard to find, especially (a) if you're not a real pilot, or (b) if you're not familiar with the aircraft. A single key to turn on all the lights can be very useful for a new user, or even for an experienced user who just wants to fly at night and doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread David Megginson
On 10/11/2007, dave perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked at the changes in cvs. There is a significant problem with at least this implementation of one key to turn on all the lights for all AC. There is no standard followed for how to implement nasal electrical systems. The patches

[Flightgear-devel] [ANN] - Buccaneer - Back seat ride

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi, Tonight we carried out our first ride in the backseat of a Buccaneer over MP, thanks to some excellent recent work by Melchior and Anders. AJ was the intrepid Observer/passenger, and reported himself well pleased with the experience. To try it you need the Pilot and Observer on MP in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [ANN] - Buccaneer - Back seat ride

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote: -Original Message- From: Vivian Meazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2007 23:20 To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject: [ANN] - Buccaneer - Back seat ride Hi, Tonight we carried out our first ride in the backseat of a Buccaneer over MP,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [ANN] - Buccaneer - Back seat ride

2007-11-10 Thread LeeE
On Saturday 10 November 2007 23:20, Vivian Meazza wrote: Hi, Tonight we carried out our first ride in the backseat of a Buccaneer over MP, thanks to some excellent recent work by Melchior and Anders. AJ was the intrepid Observer/passenger, and reported himself well pleased with the

[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: SimGear

2007-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2007-11-08_23:52:58 (frohlich) /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/source/simgear/scene/util/SGNodeMasks.hxx Update node masks 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net

[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear source

2007-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2007-11-05_16:12:01 (mfranz) /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main/viewer.cxx revert swapping of x y offsets in lookat mode This was correct in the old repository and in revision 1.1 of the new, but then broken in revision 1.2.