Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread John Denker
On 01/02/2009 05:33 PM, Bohnert Paul wrote: > http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=39 vordme_1 > http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=615 vordme_2 1) Thanks for the points. 2) For folks without "edit" passwords, the following is more useful: http://scenemodels.fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Bohnert Paul
--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Erik Hofman wrote: > From: Erik Hofman > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity > To: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 2:01 PM > John Denker wrote: > > Hi Folks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Martin Spott
John Denker wrote: > Obviously there's considerable variability. I have no idea > how to determine what style is used in any given location. Pass by and take pictures of each individual station. The size/type of the respective housing is usually not recorded anywhere. > http://www.thtech.net/im

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread John Denker
On 01/02/2009 02:25 PM, Alex Perry wrote: > Here is a derivative idea. There are several classes of VOR > (irrespective of the other radio services that might be colocated) > which determine what the receivable range is ... and whether they're > usable for jet routes. That change in transmitter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Jon Stockill
Alex Perry wrote: > Here is a derivative idea. There are several classes of VOR > (irrespective of the other radio services that might be colocated) > which determine what the receivable range is ... and whether they're > usable for jet routes. That change in transmitter power may be a > definin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Alex Perry
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, John Denker wrote: >> Here's a proposal: >> 0) If somebody has actual data, use that; otherwise: >> 1) Put 17m diameter shacks in "enroute" locations. >> 2) Put 12m diamater shacks in "on airport" locations. >> >> >> Anybody got a better idea? Here is a derivat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread John Denker
On 01/02/2009 01:37 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > I can say from personal experience that Gopher (GEP, 117.30) is really tough > to spot from the air. Here's the picture: http://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.145694,-93.373194&spn=0.012077,0.018539&t=h&z=16 If I'm measuring it properly, it's even big

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Alex Perry
Putting on my aluminium foil hat, I'll point out that there are five combinations of VOR/DME/TACAN even before you decide whether it is going to be monitored locally and whether the earth has repeatable conductivity to act as a ground plane. These decisions change what gets physically installed ..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Curtis Olson
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM, John Denker wrote: > On 01/02/2009 01:01 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: > > > I've modeled them after these images in the past: > > http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s63/tundratantrum/kotzebuevortac1.jpg > > http://www.dot.state.mn.us/aero/avoffice/navaids/images/vor3.jpg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread John Denker
On 01/02/2009 01:01 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: > I've modeled them after these images in the past: > http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s63/tundratantrum/kotzebuevortac1.jpg > http://www.dot.state.mn.us/aero/avoffice/navaids/images/vor3.jpg > http://members.chello.nl/vdleije/pics/ssj_vor.jpg Wow, tho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Erik Hofman
John Denker wrote: > Hi Folks > > FG puts a model of a VOR shack into the scenery in places where > there is supposed to be a VOR shack. So far so good. > > The problem is, the model seems awfully small. It looks like > it is about 5 meters in diameter. I've never seen one in RL > that is th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread Jon Stockill
John Denker wrote: > Hi Folks > > FG puts a model of a VOR shack into the scenery in places where > there is supposed to be a VOR shack. So far so good. > > The problem is, the model seems awfully small. It looks like > it is about 5 meters in diameter. I've never seen one in RL > that is that

[Flightgear-devel] VOR shack : scenery model upgrade opportunity

2009-01-02 Thread John Denker
Hi Folks FG puts a model of a VOR shack into the scenery in places where there is supposed to be a VOR shack. So far so good. The problem is, the model seems awfully small. It looks like it is about 5 meters in diameter. I've never seen one in RL that is that small. I've seen them sometimes w