On 01/02/2009 05:33 PM, Bohnert Paul wrote:

> http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=39  vordme_1 
> http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modeledit.php?id=615  vordme_2

1) Thanks for the points.

2) For folks without "edit" passwords, the following is more
useful:
  http://scenemodels.flightgear.org/modelbrowser.php?shared=12

> vordme_1 is the default VOR/DME model for FlightGear.  I don't know
> it's history.

That can serve as a model for "tiny" VOR shacks, but those seem
to be rare in the US, although FHU VOR is tiny; see below


> I modeled vordme_2.  It is modeled after VOR/DME OSH. Located at KOSH
> airport. 

Very nice.

>  I used photographs to estimate it's dimensions.

These days you can google the critical dimension i.e. diameter.

   Tiny:   FHU  
http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&ie=UTF8&ll=31.589978,-110.345204&spn=0.003646,0.004635&t=h&z=18

   Medium: SFO  
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.61953,-122.374024&spn=0.000848,0.001159&t=h&z=20

   Large:  GEP  
http://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.145694,-93.373194&spn=0.012077,0.018539&t=h&z=16
           COL  http://www.google.com/maps?q=+39.8156++-74.4316

   Huge:   JFK  
http://www.google.com/maps?ll=40.632867,-73.771576&spn=0.001624,0.002317&t=h&z=17

Monstrous  OKB  
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.221311,-87.951474&spn=0.001232,0.002843&t=h&z=19


My conclusions bases on what I see are:

FHU  Tiny       -1 model OK
SFO  Medium     -2 model OK
GEP  Large      should switch to larger version of -2 model
COL  Large      ditto
JFK  Huge       could switch to much larger version of -2 model
                although for now I'd be happy to lump it in with 
                the merely "large" VORs
OKB  Monstrous  maybe a project for another day


> vordme_2 is positioned at VOR/DME OSH and VOR/DME SFO.  SFO is the
> one at KSFO airport. It is not the correct model for SFO. 

It looks OK to me.  It looks nice, and it's pretty much the 
right size.  What's not to like?

>  If someone
> can provide pictures and dimensions for SFO I will model it for
> FlightGear.

IMHO the most reward per unit effort would be 
 a) start by making a scaled-up version of the -2 model, scaled up
  to about 17 meter diameter
 b) in parallel with that, somebody could add the code to choose
  the VOR model based on range as tabulated in nav.dat

As before, for the US at least the proposal is:
 if actual size data, ...... use actual data
 else if range >= 100 ...... 17 m shack large (scaled up -2)
 else if range >= 35  ...... 12 m shack medium (-2)
 else                 ......  5 m shack tiny (-1)



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