Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:08, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy, I do not notice any differences regarding /autopilot/new-config dir between first load values (after FG loaded) and after reload autopilot. i get two pi-simple-controllers and sixteen pid-controllers. OK, you said that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 10:53 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:08, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy, I do not notice any differences regarding /autopilot/new-config dir between first load values (after FG loaded) and after reload autopilot. i get two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread gh.robin
On Sat 10 February 2007 10:53, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:08, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy, I do not notice any differences regarding /autopilot/new-config dir between first load values (after FG loaded) and after reload autopilot. i get two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 11 February 2007 00:29, gh.robin wrote: I have settled Heading Bug =180 autopilot does not work (crazy) I get messages here an extract .. Updating Heading Bug Hold (DG based) Stage 2 Ts 0.017 input = -0.128936 ref = 0 ep_n = 0.128936

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread gh.robin
On Sun 11 February 2007 01:01, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Sunday 11 February 2007 00:29, gh.robin wrote: The autopilot is holding the wings level, right. I think characterizing this as crazy is very misleading. One might think that it was turning left and right. Yes , in that case crazy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread leee
I couldn't see a parameter to enable dynamic view in the command line but it seemed ok if I enabled it via the menu. The view pitched a small amount when I enabled it and pitched back when I disabled it. LeeE On Friday 09 February 2007 20:51, Maik Justus wrote: Hi LeeE, can you start

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread leee
On Saturday 10 February 2007 16:04, Ron Jensen wrote: On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 10:53 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:08, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy, I do not notice any differences regarding /autopilot/new-config dir between first load values (after FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 00:16 +, leee wrote: I couldn't see a parameter to enable dynamic view in the command line but it seemed ok if I enabled it via the menu. The view pitched a small amount when I enabled it and pitched back when I disabled it. LeeE Dynamic view from the command

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 09 February 2007 02:54, Dave Perry wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 00:25 +, leee wrote: Just checked again, with current cvs osg/simgear/flightgear, and I still got the same problems. As before, re-setting the A/P via the menu seems to kick everything into life. There also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread leee
On Friday 09 February 2007 01:54, Dave Perry wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 00:25 +, leee wrote: Just checked again, with current cvs osg/simgear/flightgear, and I still got the same problems. As before, re-setting the A/P via the menu seems to kick everything into life. There also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread leee
On Friday 09 February 2007 17:07, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 09 February 2007 02:54, Dave Perry wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 00:25 +, leee wrote: Just checked again, with current cvs osg/simgear/flightgear, and I still got the same problems. As before, re-setting the A/P via

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 09 February 2007 18:24, leee wrote: Hi Roy, I am getting this with the SU-37 and I believe the version in cvs displays the problems. This is a pretty complex A/P setup with cascading up to three levels and it also includes filters to un-tie some tied nodes so that I could use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 9 February 2007 18:07, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 09 February 2007 02:54, Dave Perry wrote: I believe that the problem Gérard and Lee has seen is not specific to the KAP140 autopilot. apInit in kap140.nas _only_ initializes the properties that belong to the KAP140 autopilot.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread leee
On Friday 09 February 2007 18:14, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 09 February 2007 18:24, leee wrote: Hi Roy, I am getting this with the SU-37 and I believe the version in cvs displays the problems. This is a pretty complex A/P setup with cascading up to three levels and it also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 09 February 2007 19:26, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy , Every Aircraft which basicaly use the Generic autopilot (no KAP140 or else). I tested it with a lot of the nice aircraft from Lee which do not work and among the others examples the dc3 Autopilot is right with Altitude but crazy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread leee
On Friday 09 February 2007 19:04, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 09 February 2007 19:26, gh.robin wrote: Hello Roy , Every Aircraft which basicaly use the Generic autopilot (no KAP140 or else). I tested it with a lot of the nice aircraft from Lee which do not work and among the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 09 February 2007 20:22, leee wrote: It's difficult to imagine a system problem that might cause this behaviour, in view of the fact that resetting appears to fix the problem. However, I know that there are a few problems that I've seen here that no one else appears to have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread leee
On Friday 09 February 2007 19:45, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 09 February 2007 20:22, leee wrote: It's difficult to imagine a system problem that might cause this behaviour, in view of the fact that resetting appears to fix the problem. However, I know that there are a few problems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread Maik Justus
Hi LeeE, can you start flightgear with the bo105 and dynamic-view enabled? If the view direction is ok during the first second or is it spinning around? Maybe this bug has a similar cause. Maik leee schrieb am 09.02.2007 20:22: On Friday 09 February 2007 19:04, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 9 February 2007 20:04, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: Could you check the property browser before and after you reload the autopilot? Look at the /autopilot/new-config dir. Are all the controllers there prior to reloading the autopilot? (In the cd3 I see two pi-simple-controllers and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 9 February 2007 20:22, leee wrote: It's difficult to imagine a system problem that might cause this behaviour, in view of the fact that resetting appears to fix the problem. However, I know that there are a few problems that I've seen here that no one else appears to have experienced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-09 Thread gh.robin
On Sat 10 February 2007 01:15, gh.robin wrote: On Fri 9 February 2007 20:22, leee wrote: It's difficult to imagine a system problem that might cause this behaviour, in view of the fact that resetting appears to fix the problem. However, I know that there are a few problems that I've seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 8 February 2007 11:13, Thomas Förster wrote: Hi, I hit on a strange problem when using the --flight-plan commandline option with the default c172. All controls are working except the ailerons, which makes flying around a bit challenging... ;-) command line: fgfs --airport=EDDT

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Donnerstag 08 Februar 2007 18:35 schrieb gh.robin: On Thu 8 February 2007 11:13, Thomas Förster wrote: ... If it is FG cvs with OSG, it is not a surprise to me, i told before on several topics regarding autopilot, that it is not working. Nobody but Lee answered to confirm that it is not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread Martin Spott
gh.robin wrote: On Thu 8 February 2007 11:13, Thomas F?rster wrote: I hit on a strange problem when using the --flight-plan commandline option with the default c172. All controls are working except the ailerons, which makes flying around a bit challenging... ;-) If it is FG cvs with OSG,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 8 February 2007 23:09, Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: On Thu 8 February 2007 11:13, Thomas F?rster wrote: I hit on a strange problem when using the --flight-plan commandline option with the default c172. All controls are working except the ailerons, which makes flying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread leee
On Thursday 08 February 2007 23:22, gh.robin wrote: On Thu 8 February 2007 23:09, Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: On Thu 8 February 2007 11:13, Thomas F?rster wrote: I hit on a strange problem when using the --flight-plan commandline option with the default c172. All controls are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread Durk Talsma
leee wrote: On Thursday 08 February 2007 23:22, gh.robin wrote: Just checked again, with current cvs osg/simgear/flightgear, and I still got the same problems. As before, re-setting the A/P via the menu seems to kick everything into life. There also seems to be a random element to this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172p strange behaviour with --flight-plan

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Perry
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 00:25 +, leee wrote: Just checked again, with current cvs osg/simgear/flightgear, and I still got the same problems. As before, re-setting the A/P via the menu seems to kick everything into life. There also seems to be a random element to this problem - in half