Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightAware flight tracking

2006-10-07 Thread Alex Perry
From: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Josh Babcock wrote:
  Sounds like a good reason to fly VFR. I wonder if they have considered
  the safety implications of this. I know in the US you can request that
  ATC watch you while you are flying VFR, but I don't know if you need to
  give your tail number when you do. I would guess that you do.
 We call this Flight Information Service, FIS - [...]

In the US, you request VFR Flight Following from the ATC sector.
If approved, you receive Traffic Advisory service (no separation).
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[Flightgear-devel] Small bug fix for Cessna Citation-Bravo radio stack

2006-10-07 Thread Mike Dusseault
Couldn't find Syd's email address, so I figured I could get a fix to him here... And anyone having problems with the ADF down button on the Bravo's radio stack can fix it by removing that back tick character. Pure chance I noticed, but I remembered that button not working when I tried it earlier. Who knows, might already have been caught, but just in case... Hope nobody minds me posting the patch here... It's the only place I could think of to let someone know.
On line 517, there's an extra character that shouldn't be there before the number. Here's a patch:*** radiostack.xml.orig 2006-10-07 03:03:19.0 -0400--- radiostack.xml 2006-10-07 03:27:17.0
 -0400** 514,520  button0/button x38/x y-35/y! w`12/w h16/h binding
 commandproperty-adjust/command--- 514,520  button0/button x38/x y-35/y! w12/w
 h16/h binding commandproperty-adjust/commandAnd Syd, very nice work! Having fun with this one right now. I'd love to hear what else you might be planning on doing to it. It's great as it is, but it does look like there are a few areas still being worked on and a few things missing - not complaining here, mind you :). Would love to know what's planned for the Primus 1000's MFD stuff, and it would sure be awesome if the radar/weather stuff actually worked. Probably dreaming there  :).
BTW, in passing and a little off topic, if anyone knows where I can find the Bravo's rotation speed, stall speed, V1, V2, and some other useful parameters, I'd love to know exactly. WIsh there was a list like that for each aircraft. It would really help speed up learning to fly each one. I have the Primus 1000 docs, but very little for the Bravo (or any other plane). Will just have to experiment, I suppose.
And thanks to everyone for such an awesome sim!Mike.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightAware flight tracking

2006-10-07 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Martin Spott wrote:

 Frederic Bouvier wrote:

  And don't tell me a PA28 is an airliner ;-)

  but hey, it is equipped with a mode S transponder, which
 only few light aircraft have nowadays (at least here in Germany),

the Mode S code you see in the FAA registration is a reserved code for
that particular tail number. In fact, a lot of transponders are not like
that, and if you look up the tail number 33966 (an SGS 2-33A that I happen
to have some time in), you'll discover an aircraft with a mode S code
listed, but no transponder (actually, no electrical system at all) on
board! However, if whenever in the future it is equipped to have one, the
mechanic will use the particular mode S code reserved for this very
aircraft to program into the hardware.

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[Flightgear-devel] Bug in concorde (MP)

2006-10-07 Thread Maik Justus
Hello,

the concorde visualization has a small bug. When I fly the bo and 
another pilot is flying the concorde (in multiplayer) and I look from a 
outside view, everything is ok. But when I use (as normal) the cockpit 
view, the concorde is only partly drawed. It seems, that the concorde 
3D-model has two drawings, one for the cockpit view, and one for the 
outside view. It checks, which view is active. But in this case, always 
the outside would be correct.

Maik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking for a Dutch crew

2006-10-07 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 21 September 2006 21:29, Robin van Steenbergen wrote:
 Martin Spott schreef:
  Robin van Steenbergen wrote:
  I might be able to donate a few bits of hardware (yoke etc) to the FG
  booth and if someone is capable of doing a pickup from the Eindhoven
  region, I can do a lot more, [...]
 
  Well, the way from Moenchengladbach to Lelystad by car is going past
  Eindhoven. As our local airport closes early on sunday evening I guess
  I'll have to take the car because I won't be able to return in time
  after the show closes.

 As for the closing hours of the Aviodrome, the show opens at 10 or 11
 but stand holders may enter earlier. The show closes at 1700 and we have
 some time after that to clean things up.

 Here's a little overview of what I can bring to the Aviodrome, depending
 on the space available:
 1 PC, Intel Pentium D940 (3,2 GHz), 1GB RAM, Nvidia 6800XT @ NU, lots of
 harddisk.
 2 x Acer AL1715 17 TFT display
 1 x Apple Mac Mini (Intel Core Duo)
 CH Flight Sim Yoke USB
 Microsoft Sidewinder Racing Wheel (for the pedals)
 Laptop, Intel Pentium-M 1,4, 512MB RAM, integrated video

 Just let me know what you will be needing. I hope I can tie my own
 software to FlightGear in the period in between, to show everyone that
 it's possible to connect these bits. I may even be able to write up a
 piece of software that uses FS2004 or FSX in slave mode as a scenery
 renderer. If we could get a projector up this would be marvellous.

 If we can arrange something with Frans we might even be able to do a
 presentation or a demo in the video room.



I haven't received a personal confirmation from Frans, yet, but he put our 
logo on the FSWeekend website, so it looks like we're in.

http://www.fsweekend.com/exhibitors.php

Robin, it would be great if you could bring an additional desktop. I will 
bring two desktops and a laptop. I'm installing a stock 0.9.10 windows 
install on my windows desktop and have the bleeding edge development version 
running on my Linux box (including lots of traffic, a brand new 3D model of 
EHAM, the full worldwide scenery database, and the full archive from Jon 
Stockill's object database). I'm also planning to install the full worldwide 
scenery database on the windows machine, but other than that, I'd like to 
keep that one pretty basic. 

As for giving a demo in the video room, that sounds interesting. If you can 
work something out, that would be great. Also, feel free to send me your 
powerpoint presentation, so I can put it on my laptop. 

It might be a good idea to plan a bit ahead with regard to the type of demo 
we'd like to give. I'm trying to build a few more groundnetworks for various 
airports, so that we could demo some small commuter type airline flights 
between some of the major European airports (e.g. between Amsterdam and 
London, or Amsterdam and Paris). In order to make it look smooth and 
professional, it might be a good idea to have some flightplans ready for 
these flights. 

I'm currently updating Atlas / plib / and Taxidraw on my laptop, so we could 
use the laptop to demonstrate these programs as well. 

The hosts of the show, the Aviodrome museum, has requested that exhibitors 
involve the public in their demos, and make it an educational event, 
especially for children. 

Another thing to think of is that we don't have internet access in the 
Aviodrome, so automatic metar weather fetch won't work. It might be neat to 
set-up some interesting weather scenario's. 

I can probably borrow a surplus  17 CRT from work, and if worst comes to 
worst, I can also borrow my work computer's keyboard / mouse. I also have a 
network switch, and loads of ethernet cable, which I'll bring along. 

Cheers,
Durk

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for Eurocopter Ec 135

2006-10-07 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb:
 Maik Justus wrote:
   
 Hi Heiko,

 interesting link.
 I think I have to improve the rotor simulation to cover rotors with 
 different airfoils along the blade.
 But first we need the drag/lift curves for these airfoils. My short 
 search at the web was not successful.
 I am a little bit surprised, that the ec135 uses the same airfoil than 
 the tiger. Several years ago a eurocopter test pilot of the tiger told 
 me, that the tiger is nearly not capable to autorotate. It's not 
 impossible, but he told it's rather sporty and it's not unlikely to 
 damage the helicopter. I think they want to avoid overspeed of the rotor 
 at extreme flight attitudes and therefore the rotor does not speed up in 
 autorotation. This is in agreement with his statement, that it is not 
 possible to damage the tiger while in flight.
 But I expect the ec135 to be able to autorotate. Maybe the twisting is 
 different? (But I heard, that the enignes would be damaged, if you train 
 autorotation, and therefore the ec135 for the german Heeresflieger 
 (army) got a modification to be capable to train autorotation).
 


 It's a very common EMS helicopter here, and I think in Europe as well. I
 can't see an EMS agency or company buying a helo without good
 autoratation capabilities. EMS is one of the most dangerous types of flying.

 Josh

   
Hi,

I just had a short discussion with a real life professional pilot with
EC135 experience:

1. The EC135 autorotates pretty well, has a nice speeding up of the
rotor - rpm in autorotation
2. Although autorotation could be done if necessary it is not anymore in
his company due to risk of damages mainly at the Fenestron case.
The position of the Fenestron/case of the EC135 is lower to earth
compared to other helicopters and you have to do a pronounced
ground-near flare before setting the bird on ground. This implies the
danger of these Fenestron-case damages (which costs a lot of money).
3. The common meaning is that a two engine equipped helicopter with
fire-extinguishers has no high risk of being forced to autorotate
although it could be done if necessary (see 1 and 2)
4. Even in check-flights with the BK117 a real autorotation is not asked
for anymore. You have to do it hot (engines running, collective pitch
down) to demonstrate for your checker that you are able to select the
right place for the emergency landing and get there in the autorotation
mode but you increase collective near the ground and won't land.

Regards
Georg HeliFlyer EDDW

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[Flightgear-devel] Bravo...

2006-10-07 Thread syd
 From: Mike Dusseault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Couldn't find Syd's email address, so I figured I could get a fix to
 him here...  And anyone having problems with the ADF down button on
 the Bravo's radio stack can fix it by removing that back tick
 character.  Pure chance I noticed, but I remembered that button not
 working when I tried it earlier. Who knows, might already have been
 caught, but just in case...  Hope nobody minds me posting the patch
 here...  It's the only place I could think of to let someone know.
 
 On line 517, there's an extra character that shouldn't be there
 before the number.  Here's a patch:
 *** radiostack.xml.orig 2006-10-07 03:03:19.0 -0400
 --- radiostack.xml  2006-10-07 03:27:17.0 -0400
 ***
 *** 514,520 
button0/button
x38/x
y-35/y
 !  w`12/w
h16/h
binding
  commandproperty-adjust/command
 --- 514,520 
button0/button
x38/x
y-35/y
 !  w12/w
h16/h
binding
  commandproperty-adjust/command
 
 
 And Syd, very nice work!  Having fun with this one right now.  I'd
 love to hear what else you might be planning on doing to it.  It's
 great as it is, but it does look like there are a few areas still
 being worked on and a few things missing - not complaining here, mind
 you :).  Would love to know what's planned for the Primus 1000's MFD
 stuff, and it would sure be awesome if the radar/weather stuff
 actually worked.  Probably dreaming there :).
 
 BTW, in passing and a little off topic, if anyone knows where I can
 find the Bravo's rotation speed, stall speed, V1, V2, and some other
 useful parameters, I'd love to know exactly.  WIsh there was a list
 like that for each aircraft.  It would really help speed up learning
 to fly each one.  I have the Primus 1000 docs, but very little for
 the Bravo (or any other plane).  Will just have to experiment, I
 suppose.
 
 And thanks to everyone for such an awesome sim!
 
 Mike.

Hi Mike,
Glad you like it ! 
I hadn't noticed the error , I haven't used the ADF much , but I see
the error now that you pointed it out.
I'm actually in the middle of redoing the panel , PFD ,radios , and
MFD displays are now  2D , and I'll fix the hotspots.
Current changes are an improved FDM ,a working dc-550 (PFD controller),
updating the flightdirector / autopilot to work Primus 1000 style
(which is going to require me writing a how-to manual)... an FMS mode ,
using the autopilot route-manager, transparent cockpit glass , a
pilot :), exhaust haze , and more I cant think of right now . The MFD
might be longer in development , but right now displays , true heading ,
Autopilot settings, current lat and lon , wxradar in the process of
being added , and just for fun , MP and AI aircraft radar for
multiplayer...
So a lot of changes , and more to come fairly soon...
 Most of the flight dynamics info I got from the www.cessna.com
website , and the Bravo Primus1000 manual I cant find anymore , thank
god I saved it to CD . 

Cheers,
Syd  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for Eurocopter Ec 135

2006-10-07 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi at all,

So, the exterior model is up to 75% ready. The
interior is sticky - if convert my blend.file with the
interior flightgear aborts. :-(
Well, tomorrow I will try it again - 10.000 vertices
at all can't be too much.

Have a look:

www.hoerbird.de/bilder/ec135.prototype2.jpg

Greetings
HHS

--- Maik Justus [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 Hi Heiko,
 
 interesting link.
 I think I have to improve the rotor simulation to
 cover rotors with 
 different airfoils along the blade.
 But first we need the drag/lift curves for these
 airfoils. My short 
 search at the web was not successful.
 I am a little bit surprised, that the ec135 uses the
 same airfoil than 
 the tiger. Several years ago a eurocopter test pilot
 of the tiger told 
 me, that the tiger is nearly not capable to
 autorotate. It's not 
 impossible, but he told it's rather sporty and it's
 not unlikely to 
 damage the helicopter. I think they want to avoid
 overspeed of the rotor 
 at extreme flight attitudes and therefore the rotor
 does not speed up in 
 autorotation. This is in agreement with his
 statement, that it is not 
 possible to damage the tiger while in flight.
 But I expect the ec135 to be able to autorotate.
 Maybe the twisting is 
 different? (But I heard, that the enignes would be
 damaged, if you train 
 autorotation, and therefore the ec135 for the german
 Heeresflieger 
 (army) got a modification to be capable to train
 autorotation).
 Maik
 Heiko Schulz schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I hope to finish the helicopter soon- you see,
 there
  is  some work to do.
 
  I used Google and found this wonderful site -
 maybe
  interesting for the wiki:
  www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html  --The
  Incomplete Guide to Airfoil Usage
 
  For the EC 135 I found out that the EC 135 uses
 the
  DFVLR DM-H3 inboard and DFLVR DM-H4 outboard - the
  same than the Tiger uses.
  Maybe it helps a little bit. 
 
  Greetings
  HHS
 
  --- Maik Justus [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 

  Hi Heiko,
  I am happy to hear of a new heli for flightgear.
 Of
  course I try to help 
  modeling the parameters for the FDM. Enclosed you
  can find a very first 
  trial. (Fortunately I have done this a few weeks
  ago. I hope I will get 
  feedback from experienced ec135 pilots quite soon
 to
  optimize the 
  parameters to fit the real heli.) But up to now I
 do
  not have the 
  airfoils, therfore I use the naca23012 with small
  modifications to meet 
  the performance of the ec135. (Up to now I did
 not
  try very hard to 
  achieve the overall performance like climb speed
 or
  maximum speed. My 
  first aim is to achieve realistic dynamic
 behavior,
  and if this is done 
  I will try to do the rest.)
 
  Best regards,
  Maik
 
 
 
  Heiko Schulz schrieb:
  
  Hi at all,
 
  While I'm working on a ASK 21 glider, I began to

  model
  
  the Eurocopter Ec 135.
 
  The exterior model is up to 50-60% ready, the

  interior
  
  model still 0% but in few days it goes with this

  on.
  
  @Maik: I hope you read this - is there any
 chance

  to
  
  get a flightmodel for the Ec 135? I got some
  perfomance data, found on the Euocopter Homepage

  and a
  
  hint for the airfoil.
 
  Greetings to all
  HHS
 
  Picture:
 
  www.hoerbird.de/bilder/ec135.prototype.jpg
 
 
 

 


 

 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development

2006-10-07 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Friday 29 September 2006 03:21, Vivian Meazza wrote:
 Hi,

 You might find this an amusing take on someone else's Flight Sim

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcW3hbnR2EI

 Made me laugh anyway,


 Vivian

Today, I was wondering what's someone else's take on FlightGear is, so I did 
some googling and came across this thread:
http://forums.x-plane.org/lofiversion/index.php?t16495.html

Happy reading,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development

2006-10-07 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Saturday 07 October 2006 20:58, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On Friday 29 September 2006 03:21, Vivian Meazza wrote:
  Hi,
 
  You might find this an amusing take on someone else's Flight Sim
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcW3hbnR2EI
 
  Made me laugh anyway,
 
 
  Vivian

 Today, I was wondering what's someone else's take on FlightGear is, so I
 did some googling and came across this thread:
 http://forums.x-plane.org/lofiversion/index.php?t16495.html

 Happy reading,
 Ampere

Whoops, I forgot these two forums that I came across:
http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Flight%20Gear%20Flight%20Simstart=10
http://digg.com/software/Awesome_Free_Flight_Sim

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[Flightgear-devel] Is the serial port communication working by dir = bi?

2006-10-07 Thread Thiago Holanda
Hello all,I want to receive and send data by JUST ONE serial.When i use 2 COMs (COM1 and COM2) with these commands:--generic=serial,in,1,COM1,9600,Autopilot_serial--generic=serial,out,1,COM2,9600,Autopilot_serial
the Autopilot_serial.xml is:?xml version=1.0?PropertyListgeneric output line_separatornewline/line_separator var_separator,/var_separator
 !-- Instrumentation -- chunk nameindicated-turn-rate/name typefloat/type format%f/format node/instrumentation/turn-indicator/indicated-turn-rate/node
 /chunk chunk nameaileron/name typefloat/type format%f/format node/controls/flight/aileron[0]/node
 /chunk /output input line_separatornewline/line_separator var_separator,/var_separator !-- Flight Controls -- chunk
 nameaileron/name typefloat/type node/controls/flight/aileron/node /chunk /input/generic/PropertyList
It works perfect like I want. BUT I would like to use just one COM, so I tried this way:--generic=serial,bi,1,COM1,9600,Autopilot_serialI DIDN'T receive or send anything.I am running in the windows and i use the Program Lite program (
http://www.moxa.com/support/download_pcommlite_info.htm).Is there anyone that ran by bi, by windows or linux? Is there any problem to use the same property (aileron) to out and in?
Regards,Thiago Holanda-- Antes de magoar um coração, veja se não está dentro dele. Pois se um dia chorei, não foi porque perdi e sim porque amei.Que a paz esteja contigo.
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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2006-10-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-10-07_06:02:53 (fredb)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/Panel/radiostack.xml

Fix a typo


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-10-07_11:57:48 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Concorde/Models/Concorde_ba.xml

Remove leading / in property/property tags


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