Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Black
> > Why text? > > ATIS already comes over the audio. Wouldn't audio be the appropriate > channel for clearances etc? > > The audio -- in particular the text-to-speech -- is definitely in need > of improvement. I'm thinking that's where the emphasis should be, rather > than spending too much effo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Holger Wirtz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 05:22:22AM -0500, Robert Black wrote: [...] > I'm careful not to suggest stuff unless I could help with it but I'm really > excited about the progress being made in the area of ATC recently. As a plus > to the developers, good ATC apps will increase casual pilot usage a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Black
On Thursday 12 July 2007 05:43, Holger Wirtz wrote: > Due to vacation No dangerous activities while on vacation and maybe a little extra insurance wouldn't hurt until you get the voice project finished. September sounds great. pgp4ctN2Tnkec.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- John Denker wrote: > On 07/11/2007 11:48 AM, Robert Black wrote: > > of > > quickly sending and responding to messages like a push button UI > having the > > ATIS, departure procedure et.. for the controller and the replies for > the > > pilot such as $callsign_affirmative, negative et.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Stuart Buchanan wrote: > --- John Denker wrote: >> On 07/11/2007 11:48 AM, Robert Black wrote: > > >>> of >>> quickly sending and responding to messages like a push button UI >> having the >>> ATIS, departure procedure et.. for the controller and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread Pablo Rogina
'helping', but he complained about stuff that I just wasn't seeing. There are some differences in the Windows XP installation ('Program Files' becomes 'Programmes'). Turns out that his system was minorally hosed, and I Have you tried some installation builder to create the installation packege

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
_ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pablo Rogina Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:18 AM To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement > 'helping', but he complained about stuff that I just wasn'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Csaba Halász
On 7/12/07, Csaba Halász <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AnMaster's concern that ATC will be boring. Oops, sorry, that was Robert's. -- Csaba - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE ve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Csaba Halász
On 7/12/07, Stuart Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With a bit of effort, I think it could integrate into an automated ATC > service that recognizes standard phrases, delivers clearances etc. Such a > service should be able to run as a standalone app connected to the MP > system so everyone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi Bill, thanks for this great improvement. I just downloaded the linux package and it ran without problems over the provided examples on my OpenSuse 10.2 System. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Down

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Torsten Dreyer > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:52 AM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement > > Hi Bill, > > thanks for this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread leee
On Thursday 12 July 2007 14:56, Bill Galbraith wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Torsten Dreyer > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:52 AM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Black
On Thursday 12 July 2007 06:56, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > --- John Denker wrote: > > On 07/11/2007 11:48 AM, Robert Black wrote: > >> > Somewhat off-topic, I think there are probably a couple of other things > that could be integrated into the MP environment as completely stand-alone > apps. For exa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Bill Galbraith wrote: > That is really great to hear. I wasn't sure if it was going to be compatible > across Linux systems. The biggest problem that the Linux guys are going to > have are probably having the password to the root account, and making

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Black
On Thursday 12 July 2007 07:14, AnMaster wrote: > Stuart B > Hm that sounds good but how would it handle "out of ordinary situations", > such as all engines out landing for some plane when there are several other > planes waiting to land and so on (called priority landing iirc, but I'm not > an exp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Black
On Thursday 12 July 2007 08:29, Csaba Halász wrote: > I vote against implementing the human ATC as standalone, because I > think it is important to be able to look out the window of the tower > and see what's going on. I started coming to that conclusion this morning when I was testing yours and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Text

2007-07-12 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Robert Black wrote: > On Thursday 12 July 2007 07:14, AnMaster wrote: >> Hm that sounds good but how would it handle "out of ordinary situations", >> such as all engines out landing for some plane when there are several other >> planes waiting to l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Galbraith
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of AnMaster > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:48 AM > Why couldn't Datcom be installed in the user's home directory > like most programs? Or does datcom not support --prefix to > ./configure? (N

[Flightgear-devel] Bomb patch for vulcanb2

2007-07-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, I have a patch for the vulcanb2 that causes the 1,000lb bombs to leave craters on impact with the ground. Available from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/vulcanb2.tar.gz The crater.[ac|rgb] files should go into the Aircraft/vulcanb2/Models directory. Could someone please commit. Th

[Flightgear-devel] [RFC] changing key definitions: SPACE & s-key

2007-07-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I would like to redefine two keys: now then -- SPACE starter/prop browserPTT s-key toggle 2D panels starter S-key -- toggle 2D panels I'm aware that this is a major chan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] changing key definitions: SPACE & s-key

2007-07-12 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Melchior FRANZ wrote: > I would like to redefine two keys: > > now then > -- > SPACE starter/prop browserPTT > s-key toggle 2D panels starter >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] changing key definitions: SPACE & s-key

2007-07-12 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 13 July 2007 00:00, AnMaster wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > I would like to redefine two keys: > > > > now then > > -- > > SPACE starter/prop browserPTT > > s-key toggle 2D panels star

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B

2007-07-12 Thread bass pumped
On 7/12/07, gh.robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. That package contains the two variants -SR71-A which was the common aircraft with pilot and RSO ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-A http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic22.jpg -SR71-B which was the tr

[Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B

2007-07-12 Thread gh.robin
Hello, Here is a new version of SR71-BlackBird. That package contains the two variants -SR71-A which was the common aircraft with pilot and RSO ===> --aircraft=Blackbird-A http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic22.jpg -SR71-B which was the training aircraft with instructor pilot and studen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] changing key definitions: SPACE & s-key

2007-07-12 Thread
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:35:10 +0200 Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to redefine two keys: > > now then > -- > SPACE starter/prop browserPTT > s-key toggle 2D panels star

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Blackbird -SR71 A and B

2007-07-12 Thread gh.robin
On Fri 13 July 2007 01:17, gh.robin wrote: > Hello, > > the full package is available here (5 mo) > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/SR71-BlackBird.tar.gz > > Regads In addition to, if you want to climb at the best rate and "touch" quickly 85000 ft, after take off engage autopilot with Pitch = 8

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] changing key definitions: SPACE & s-key

2007-07-12 Thread Holger Wirtz
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:35:10PM +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > I would like to redefine two keys: > > now then > -- > SPACE starter/prop browserPTT > s-key toggle 2D panels starter > S-key

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bomb patch for vulcanb2

2007-07-12 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi, should this really be part of a flight simulation software? If yes, what will be the next step? - Should the demolition of buildings be modeled? - What about humans in the scenery? - Any sound for this? My personal vote is "please do not commit". I do not like it! Greetings, Torsten Am