Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: Faulty configure check for svn_client.h

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Martin Spott wrote:
> You're apparently missing the "Apache Portable Runtime" headers and
> probably the libraries as well - which are a a requirement for
> 'libsvn'. This is surprising because Unix/Linux package managers
> typically take care for this sort of dependencies.
> 
> See if your favourite distribution offers a 'libapr1-dev' (as well as a
> 'libapr1') or similar package and try again.
I have libapr, header at /usr/include/apr-1/apr.h

$ ls /usr/include/apr-1/
apr.hapr_global_mutex.hapr_poll.hapr_thread_cond.h
apr_allocator.h  apr_hash.hapr_pools.h   apr_thread_mutex.h
apr_anylock.hapr_hooks.h   apr_portable.hapr_thread_pool.h
apr_atomic.h apr_inherit.h apr_proc_mutex.h  apr_thread_proc.h
apr_base64.h apr_ldap.hapr_queue.h   apr_thread_rwlock.h
apr_buckets.hapr_ldap_init.h   apr_random.h  apr_time.h
apr_date.h   apr_ldap_option.h apr_reslist.h apr_uri.h
apr_dbd.hapr_ldap_rebind.h apr_ring.hapr_user.h
apr_dbm.hapr_ldap_url.hapr_rmm.h apr_uuid.h
apr_dso.hapr_lib.h apr_sdbm.hapr_version.h
apr_env.hapr_md4.h apr_sha1.hapr_want.h
apr_errno.h  apr_md5.h apr_shm.h apr_xlate.h
apr_file_info.h  apr_memcache.hapr_signal.h  apr_xml.h
apr_file_io.hapr_mmap.hapr_strings.h apu.h
apr_fnmatch.hapr_network_io.h  apr_strmatch.hapu_version.h
apr_general.hapr_optional.hapr_support.h apu_want.h
apr_getopt.h apr_optional_hooks.h  apr_tables.h


I guess the include path you are using is wrong?

Oh and Gentoo Linux doesn't use separate header packages.

Regards,
Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: Faulty configure check for svn_client.h

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Martin Spott wrote:
> AnMaster wrote:
> 
>> Should I forward the mail directly to you?
> 
> No, cutting out the section in question would be entirely sufficient.
> Search the text file for the same string:
> 
>>>> checking for svn_client.h... no
> 
>   and look at, well, probably half a dozend lines that follow,
> 
>   Martin.
That is what I did. I got several thousand lines in that section alone

Will mail it directly.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: Faulty configure check for svn_client.h

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I sent a reply but got "Message body is too big: 93978 bytes with a limit of 40
KB". There were several thousands of lines with "error" from various svn 
headers.

Should I forward the mail directly to you?

Regards,
Arvid Norlander

Martin Spott wrote:
> AnMaster wrote:
>
>> checking for svn_client.h... no
>>
>> However the header does exist, as /usr/include/subversion-1/svn_client.h
>>
>> I guess a fix for configure is needed.
>
> How does the detailed output in 'config.log' look like, any hint in
> there ?
>
>   Martin.
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[Flightgear-devel] Bug: Sound only on one ear (FlightGear currently unusable with headphones)

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Hello,

I'm using earphones and noticed the current CVS HEAD is unusable. In cockpit of
several aircrafts (possibly all but only tried C172, Bo105, A10 and Lightning
yet) I only get any sound at all on the left ear. Very irritating when using
earphones (I have no speakers, so that is not a possible workaround for now.)

Further:
* In tower view I only get sound on the right ear.
* In Helicopter view, Chase view and Model view it depends on what direction
  I'm looking at the aircraft:
  * Behind tail: Left ear only
  * In front of nose: Right ear only
  * Either side: Both ears
* In fly by view:
  * Ahead of aircraft: Right ear
  * Aircraft just passing: Both ears.
  * Behind aircraft: Left ear


Right now this makes it very hard to fly in flightgear with headphones. I guess
it would work ok with mono speakers.

Flightgear and simgear are both CVS HEAD as of today.
OpenAL-Soft 1.6.372 (my distro doesn't provide the reference implementation any
more, so not an option).
Linux tux.lan 2.6.27-gentoo-r8-1 #1 Sat Jan 31 04:55:36 CET 2009 x86_64 AMD
Sempron(tm) Processor 3300+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


I don't know if this is a FlightGear or OpenAL bug, and don't know how to find
out. I didn't notice issues in other programs using OpenAL though so...

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[Flightgear-devel] Bug: Faulty configure check for svn_client.h (not looking in right place)

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Hello,

I just compiled fgfs (CVS HEAD) on my system today (after having been away for a
few months).

I noticed this:
checking for svn_client_checkout3 in -lsvn_client-1... yes
checking svn_client.h usability... no
checking svn_client.h presence... no
checking for svn_client.h... no

However the header does exist, as /usr/include/subversion-1/svn_client.h

I guess a fix for configure is needed.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiple IO

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It should also be possible to use some daemon talking to FlightGear using TCP 
or UDP and
then get that daemon to talk to the USB device. On Linux try using libusb, I 
assume
something similar exists for Windows.

Regards,
Arvid

Curtis Olson wrote:
| On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Nurten Rende wrote:
|
|>  I am new to Flight Gear.  I would like to connect more than one device to
|> Flight Gear and run it in almost a real time environment under Windows XP (I
|> am a hobbyist trying to make my own toy plane). Does Flight Gear support
|> simultaneous multi serial Input Output ports and USB connections? If not how
|> do I do that? What parameters do I need to pass to FlightGear or where about
|> do I need to modify the code to enable flight gear to do so? I will
|> appreciate a reply for a direction or a hint.
|>
|>
| Hi Nurten,
|
| FlightGear definitely supports multiple concurrent IO connections.  There is
| a slightly complex, but pretty flexible mechanism for specifying an IO
| channel, what type of communcation will get sent over it, which direction,
| and at what rate.  Look for a file called README.io that briefly explains
| much of this.  In addition, there is a "generic" protocol where you can
| create an xml file specifying exactly what data values you wish to send
| across your IO channel.  We don't have generic "USB" support, but if you
| have a Serial -> USB device that looks like a com port on the computer side,
| then that should work without any problem ... just be careful which com port
| your usb device gets assigned to.
|
| Regards,
|
| Curt.
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[Flightgear-devel] New IP for terrasync mirror

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The ip for my terrasync mirror changed to 67.202.82.26. Curt: please update DNS 
for the
round robin scenery.flightgear.org to reflect this as soon as possible.

Regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync mirror short on disk space

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I'm not sure how to extract that from the logs. The server in question hosts a 
lot of
other stuff that use a lot of bw so just looking at stats for the server would 
not help.

/Arvid Norlander

Sven Almgren wrote:
| How much data/trafic are we talking about? I might be able to host
| something...
|
| /Sven
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[Flightgear-devel] Terrasync mirror short on disk space

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Hello everyone,

Sadly I'm unsure how long I will be able to keep my terrasync mirror up, atm 
I'm dropping
mirroring of 0.9.10 scenery due to disk space (only keeping 1.0.0 scenery). I 
see that on
the other hand Curt's server only mirrors Scenery-0.9.8 and Scenery-0.9.10. 
Confusing.

In any case I have to stop mirroring more than just one scenery version right 
now (don't
have time to wait for opinions on what one, sorry), and have thus selected 1.0 
scenery.

Regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery 1.0.0 coastline is not processed

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And some more very close:
57*48 08.2N  11*39 55.6E
58*15 49.1N  11*20 47.2E
58*40 10.7N  11*06 54.9E

And I can see another one ahead, but I don't have time to list more than these.

Another kind of bug maybe is around 59*15 14.6N 10*33 07.1E, the scenery look 
very
rectangular here but the areas seem to have a few islands in them. Still it 
looks quite
weird and not correct as far as I can see

In general, the whole Swedish scenery (or at least the parts I looked at, which 
is
following a track from ESSA -> ESOE -> ESGG and then following the coast north 
of ESGG a
bit) look crap in 1.0 scenery.

Regards,
Arvid Norlander

AnMaster wrote:
| I found such a case near Göteborg in Sweden:
| 57*28 41.8N  11*51 56.1E is what the HUD show when I'm above it.
|
| Regards,
| Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery 1.0.0 coastline is not processed

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I found such a case near Göteborg in Sweden:
57*28 41.8N  11*51 56.1E is what the HUD show when I'm above it.

Regards,
Arvid Norlander

Ralf Gerlich wrote:
| Hi!
|
| Jocelyn Couetdic wrote:
|> I hope you'll find without too much trouble the bug behind all this.
|
| Thank you for your reports. As reported, I have already found the
| problem and now I am searching for a fix. However, these reports will
| also help me find out whether my fix - once implemented - is successful,
| so keep reporting, I am collecting them.
|
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[Flightgear-devel] fg tracker broken? Does not log flights from mpserver02

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It seems fg tracker no longer tracks mpserver02 at least. My log there show no 
flights
done since March 1 and I did several today (March 24) and last week. I'm not 
sure who
exactly to contact for this so I'm sending the mail to -devel, hoping someone 
that can fix
it reads this mail.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery 1.0.0 coastline is not processed

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Curtis Olson wrote:
| On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM, AnMaster wrote:
|
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|> It does indeed look like 0.9.8 had best coast line. Why is it so much
|> worse in more recent
|> scenery? Wouldn't it be possible to get the same good coastline as in
|> 0.9.8?
|
|
| As with anything, it's not quite that simple.  The GHSSH coastline database
| (used in 0.9.8) is indeed more accurate for ocean coastlines.  However, for
| any inland fresh water, it is much worse/less detailed than vmap0.  So in
| 0.9.8 we used GHSSH for coastlines and VMAP0 for lakes & rivers.
|
| However, we found that there were major discrepancies between the two
| databases. For instance, lake washington near seattle is classified as lake
| by GHSSH and ocean by vmap0, so it simply did not appear in 0.9.8.
| Similarly there were things that were classified as ocean by GHSSH and lake
| by vmap0 so they were both drawn on top of each other.
|
| The decision was made to go with vmap0 entirely.  We gave up accuracy around
| the coast lines, but we gained a much more consistent picture of the world
| ... with no major missing bits and no overlapping sections.
|
| Originally we only used GHSSH defined waterways, but this let to major
| problems, like the great lakes only being half defined (i.e. the canadian
| side of the lakes was not mapped so there was only land there.)  And
| strangely, some Canadian's complained about that! :-) So we went to the
| mixed GHSSH-Ocean/VMAP0-fresh-water scheme, but people complained about the
| missing water that fell in the gaps between both dataset classifications.
| So then we went to vmap0, but now people are complaining about less detailed
| coast lines!
|
| What combination should we try next? :-)
Good question, I guess combining them and manually fixing the problems would be 
too much
work. I got no really good solution. But the current coastlines are very bad in 
many cases.

What about only using GHSSH for those coastlines around continents? With that I 
mean coast
line  around, say, North and south America, Europe/Africa/Asia (that, apart 
from the Suez
channel, are connected), Australia and any islands, and simply discard any 
coastlines
inside these "blocks" and use vmap0 there. That is: don't trust how vmap0/GHSSH 
classify
the data. Would that be feasible?


Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery 1.0.0 coastline is not processed

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It does indeed look like 0.9.8 had best coast line. Why is it so much worse in 
more recent
scenery? Wouldn't it be possible to get the same good coastline as in 0.9.8?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

gerard robin wrote:
| On jeu 20 mars 2008, gerard robin wrote:
|> On jeu 20 mars 2008, Alex Romosan wrote:
|>> Ralf Gerlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>>> Scenery V1.0.0 has been built using VMAP0 landmass and shoreline data.
|>> scenery v0.9.8 was also built with the vmap0 landmass and shoreline
|>> data.
|>>
|>> looking at:
|>> http://mapserver.flightgear.org/openlayers_sfobay.html?zoom=13&lat=37.862
|>> 84 &lon=-122.28796&layers=B0TFFTFTT (this is the bay area). i am not
|>> really sure how to interpret the
|>> colours but if you look at the berkeley coastline in v1.0.0 you'll see
|>> that the berkeley marina is missing, big chunks of alameda are also
|>> missing, and so on. on the above map it looks like the actual coast is
|>> outlined in a red line, then there is some white (same as the water)
|>> and then there are the red and green chunks (which is the scenery in
|>> v1.0.0). the berkeley marina is present in 0.9.8 (but it disappeared
|>> in subsequent scenery releases). something is wrong (and it's been
|>> wrong for a long time). it will be interesting to compare the current
|>> algorithm with the one used to generate the coastline in 0.9.8 to try
|>> to understand why all these things have disappeared.
|>>
|>> --alex--
|> Hello,
|>
|> Regarding Hong-KongLat 22.296  deg and Lon 113.898 here are snapshots:
|>
|> That one from mapserver.flightgear.org
|>
|> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/mapserver.flightgear.org_Hong-Kong.jpg
|>
|> That one with 0.9.8 scenery
|> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Scenery-0.9.8_Hong-Kong.jpg
|>
|> And That one with 1.00 scenery
|> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Scenery-1.00_Hong-Kong.jpg
|>
|> You could notice that  apt VHHH is now , not an island but on full ground
|> area
|>
|> Cheers
|
| And with 0.9.10 which is not so good than 0.9.8 about Hong Kong bay (we don't
| see it here), but in any case better than 1.00
|
| http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Scenery-0.9.9_Hong-Kong.jpg
|
|
|
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for Saitek Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals under Windows XP

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I found the problem, the tag "" should be changed to "". Don't we 
have a DTD
or XML Schema to test these things? And don't people proof read and test before 
committing?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

AnMaster wrote:
> I don't have time to debug this, but this patch broke the rudder pedals under 
> Linux and
> FreeBSD (I run both OS) for me. Rudder no longer works. Toe brakes still 
> work. The axis is
> axis 2 according to js_demo.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arvid Norlander
> 
> Sven Almgren wrote:
>> Saitek Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals's name differs in windows from linux,
>> and the axis for the rudder is 3, not 2... assumes Mac uses same channel
>> as windows, but could be wrong... linux is set to channel 2, and windows
>> and mac is set to 3
> 
>> I include both the bziped and the plain file, not sure if I have to use
>> bz as diffs are small (used "../../../../source/scripts/tools/fg-submit"
>> to create it)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for Saitek Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals under Windows XP

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I don't have time to debug this, but this patch broke the rudder pedals under 
Linux and
FreeBSD (I run both OS) for me. Rudder no longer works. Toe brakes still work. 
The axis is
axis 2 according to js_demo.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Sven Almgren wrote:
> Saitek Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals's name differs in windows from linux,
> and the axis for the rudder is 3, not 2... assumes Mac uses same channel
> as windows, but could be wrong... linux is set to channel 2, and windows
> and mac is set to 3
> 
> I include both the bziped and the plain file, not sure if I have to use
> bz as diffs are small (used "../../../../source/scripts/tools/fg-submit"
> to create it)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP forest fire model?

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George Patterson wrote:
> Not a bad idea.. but don't we need water bombing aircraft first in
> order to put out the fires?
> (unless you are happy to wait for the wind to change direction which
> means that the fire burns itself out.)
> 
> 
> Just carrying this idea on a bit further.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> George

The Catalina-OSG aircraft can dump water. Of course you would need to export 
that over mp
as well (so some changes to it are required).

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery pager Compilation error

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Durk Talsma wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm getting the following compilation error, using today's cvs version of 
> OSG, 
> SimGear, and FlightGear. Any clue as to what might be going on?
> 
> Cheers,
> Durk
CVS of OSG? They changed to SVN a long time ago. That could possibly be the 
problem?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Air Traffic Control (ATC). Fixing bugs and adding new features.

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First: Please don't hijack a thread like you did. Most clients that allow 
displaying threaded view
of messages don't base it on subject but on other, normally hidden headers 
(that are more reliable
normally, unless someone hijack the thread like you did). So when you created 
this message by
hitting reply to "Re: [Flightgear-devel] valgrind: diff no 1" you mess up that 
thread sort.

Just hit the button/menu option/whatever to create a new mail and put in the 
address of the mailing
list in "to".

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Daniyar Atadjanov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i'm newbie in FG development (just subscribed to this mailing list) and in 
> C/C++ programming, but i'm interested in making 
> FG's ATC more usefull and realistic.
> 
> I learned the code and read comments in /src/ATC/* files and have some ideas 
> about adding new interesting features to FG's 
> ATC.
> 
> This (attached) diff fixes only two (little) bugs in Tower-ATC:
> 
>1. Sometimes ATC tells you to follow yourself when you report Downwind, 
> like: "GFS, number two, follow GFS on 
> base/final/other leg".
>2. When ATC tells you to go around because of traffic, but that traffic is 
> you!
> 
> 
> My ideas (something of this i already wrote and there's a code):
> 
>1. Requesting weather codition in airport. Some airports don't have ATIS, 
> so you can ask ATC: "Please advise weather 
> condition" and ATC answers: active runway, wind heading and speed, 
> visibility, QFE...
>2. When aircraft requests landing, pilot says: "for full stop with ATIS", 
> but in reallife he must say: "information 
> Bravo/Charlie/Delta/etc". I added this changes to FG.
>3. Now ATC knows only two answers when requesting landing: "report 
> straight-in" and "report downwind". What about other 
> legs, turns and vectoring? Like: "Turn left heading 120 degrees until 
> advised" or "Turn right heading 10 degrees for landing 
> runway 28R, report final" ?
>4. Then i added some checkings of landing gear position and when reporting 
> final pilot can say: "Gear down, ready to 
> land".
>5. If you forgot gear on final, ATC can report you: "Your landing gear 
> appears up".
> 
> But this is a very little changes. What about other new feature to make ATC 
> more realistic?
> 
> Please tell your ideas and advices about adding changes to ATC. What would 
> you like to see in FG's ATC?
> 
> Thank you and sorry for my bad English :)
> 
> Best,
> Daniyar
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] vsi-6 / Aerostar changes

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Stefan Seifert wrote:
> Curtis Olson wrote:
> 
>> Don't bother listening to Melchior, he's busy coming up with absurdly long
>> strings of obscure unix commands that are just a huge waste of time to
>> type.  You can do the same check with this much simpler command and save 26
>> key strokes (if you start in the aircraft directory):
>>
>> find . -name \*.xml -exec grep -l vsi-3d {} \;
> 
> Well, just for completeness and because Melchior doesn't like -exec:
> find . -name \*.xml | xargs grep vsi-3d
> does the job just as well and is even simpler to type ;)
> grep -R would be even shorter, but does search all files including
> textures and models.
> 
At least with (recent?) GNU find you could also use:

find . -name \*.xml -exec grep -l vsi-3d '{}' +

The difference against the version using ; is that the ";-version" will invoke 
grep once for each
found file, while the "+-version" will invoke like with as many arguments in 
one go that is
possible. For more details see find(1), section "ACTIONS" on systems with GNU 
userland.

Another reason why to not use the xargs version is that filenames can contain 
spaces and/or
newlines. If you want to use xargs then at least do:
find . -name \*.xml -print0 | xargs -0 grep vsi-3d
This will cause the delimiter to be a null char that is not valid in filenames.
This works on systems with GNU userland, but not on, for example, FreeBSD.

While newlines in filenames is not likely a problem for flightgear, it is in 
some situations.
Consider this script to clean old files from /tmp:
find /tmp -atime 5 | xargs rm -f

Now consider a file named (\n to show where the newline is): 
"foo\n/etc/passwd". Yes that is a valid
filename. With the above find command, that would remove /etc/passwd. However 
on systems with GNU
userland it is possible to do:
find /tmp -atime 5 -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f
That command would not remove /etc/passwd.

However, an ever better solution, at least with GNU find, may be:
find /tmp -atime 5 -delete
;P

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG(?) with broken artificial horizon in c172p

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Jon Stockill wrote:
> AnMaster wrote:
>> After a report from a windows user about broken artificial horizon after a 
>> roll in c172p and
>> SenecaII (using 1.0), I tried this. I do not know if it is a feature or a 
>> bug, but after a roll in
>> c172p the artificial horizon is indeed no longer correct, but pointing some 
>> 30 degrees bank to
>> either side as upwards. I can reproduce this with c172p cvs version in both 
>> plib and osg branches. I
>> did not manage to reproduce it using SenecaII, but maybe it changed since 
>> 1.0 release.
> 
> This sounds like a toppled gyro to me - does it slowly right itself if 
> you maintain level flight?
> 
> Jon

Indeed it does reset, after about 10 minutes flying.

So intended feature then?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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[Flightgear-devel] BUG(?) with broken artificial horizon in c172p

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After a report from a windows user about broken artificial horizon after a roll 
in c172p and
SenecaII (using 1.0), I tried this. I do not know if it is a feature or a bug, 
but after a roll in
c172p the artificial horizon is indeed no longer correct, but pointing some 30 
degrees bank to
either side as upwards. I can reproduce this with c172p cvs version in both 
plib and osg branches. I
did not manage to reproduce it using SenecaII, but maybe it changed since 1.0 
release.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG: FG HEAD fails to compile after recent changes to configure.ac (reverting fixes it)

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After talking to AndersG on IRC I tried rebuilding from a clean checkout, same 
result but earlier:

checking osg/Version usability... yes
checking osg/Version presence... yes
checking for osg/Version... yes
checking for osgViewerGetVersion in -losgViewer... no
checking for osgGAGetVersion in -losgGA... no
checking for osgTextGetVersion in -losgText... no
checking for osgUtilGetVersion in -losgUtil... no
checking for osgDBGetVersion in -losgDB... no
checking for osgSimGetVersion in -losgSim... no
checking for osgGetVersion in -losg... no
checking for OpenThreadsGetVersion in -lOpenThreads... no

$ make
Making all in tests
make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/src/arvid/flightgear/source-head/tests'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../src/Include   
-I/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/include
- -I/usr/X11R6/include  -pipe -march=k8 -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT est-epsilon.o -MD 
-MP -MF
.deps/est-epsilon.Tpo -c -o est-epsilon.o est-epsilon.c
mv -f .deps/est-epsilon.Tpo .deps/est-epsilon.Po
gcc  -pipe -march=k8 -O2 -D_REENTRANT -L/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib
- -L/usr/local/lib -o est-epsilon est-epsilon.o -lglut -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXt 
-lSM -lICE -lXi -lXext
- -lX11 -ldl -lm  -losgFX
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosgUtil.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, 
not found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosgDB.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not 
found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosg.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not 
found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libOpenThreads.so.9, needed by 
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not found (try
using -rpath or -rpath-link)
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::NodeVisitor::~NodeVisitor()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnvCombine::TexEnvCombine()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::removeChildren(unsigned int, unsigned int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::VertexProgram::VertexProgram()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnvCombine::setOperand1_RGB(int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::releaseGLObjects(osg::State*) const'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to 
`virtual thunk to
osg::NodeVisitor::~NodeVisitor()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osgUtil::CubeMapGenerator::generateMap(bool)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::insertChild(unsigned int, osg::Node*)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Material::setEmission(osg::Material::Face, osg::Vec4f const&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Material::setSpecular(osg::Material::Face, osg::Vec4f const&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to 
`typeinfo for osg::Group'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Texture::setWrap(osg::Texture::WrapParameter, osg::Texture::WrapMode)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::traverse(osg::NodeVisitor&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Texture::setFilter(osg::Texture::FilterParameter, 
osg::Texture::FilterMode)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to 
`osg::Matrixd::makeIdentity()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::NodeVisitor::NodeVisitor(osg::NodeVisitor::TraversalMode)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::PolygonMode::PolygonMode()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Shader::Shader(osg::Shader::Type, std::basic_string,
std::allocator > const&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Referenced::deleteUsingDeleteHandler() const'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::resizeGLObjectBuffers(unsigned int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnv::TexEnv(osg::TexEnv::Mode)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnvCombine::setSource0_RGB(int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG: FG HEAD fails to compile after recent changes to configure.ac (reverting fixes it)

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This does NOT solve it:

from configure after update to your patched version:
checking for osg/Version... yes
checking for osgViewerGetVersion in -losgViewer... no
checking for osgGAGetVersion in -losgGA... no
checking for osgTextGetVersion in -losgText... no
checking for osgUtilGetVersion in -losgUtil... no
checking for osgDBGetVersion in -losgDB... no
checking for osgSimGetVersion in -losgSim... no
checking for osgGetVersion in -losg... no
checking for OpenThreadsGetVersion in -lOpenThreads... no

Later:
g++  -pipe -march=k8 -O2 -I/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg -D_REENTRANT  
-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=both
- -L/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -o 
calc_loc calc_loc.o
- -lsgmath -lsgdebug -lsgmisc -lz -ldl -lm  -losgFX
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosgUtil.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, 
not found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosgDB.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not 
found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libosg.so.27, needed by /home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not 
found (try using
- -rpath or -rpath-link)
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning:
libOpenThreads.so.9, needed by 
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so, not found (try
using -rpath or -rpath-link)
calc_loc.o: In function `main':
calc_loc.cxx:(.text+0x21a): undefined reference to `SGGeodesy::direct(SGGeod 
const&, double, double,
SGGeod&, double&)'
calc_loc.cxx:(.text+0x32f): undefined reference to `SGGeodesy::inverse(SGGeod 
const&, SGGeod const&,
double&, double&, double&)'
calc_loc.cxx:(.text+0x3b2): undefined reference to `SGGeodesy::direct(SGGeod 
const&, double, double,
SGGeod&, double&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::NodeVisitor::~NodeVisitor()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnvCombine::TexEnvCombine()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::removeChildren(unsigned int, unsigned int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::VertexProgram::VertexProgram()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::TexEnvCombine::setOperand1_RGB(int)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::releaseGLObjects(osg::State*) const'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to 
`virtual thunk to
osg::NodeVisitor::~NodeVisitor()'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osgUtil::CubeMapGenerator::generateMap(bool)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Group::insertChild(unsigned int, osg::Node*)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Material::setEmission(osg::Material::Face, osg::Vec4f const&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Material::setSpecular(osg::Material::Face, osg::Vec4f const&)'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to 
`typeinfo for osg::Group'
/home/arvid/local/flightgear-osg/lib/libosgFX.so: undefined reference to
`osg::Texture::setWrap(osg::Texture::WrapParameter, osg::Texture::WrapMode)'
[and a lot more of that]

For now I'll revert again.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander


Curtis Olson wrote:
> I just committed a patch that should fix this configure.ac problem.  Guys,
> it looks like no one tested this patch before committing it, or didn't look
> close enough at the result.  It doesn't bother me that mistakes happen once
> in a while ... this is the dev tree after all, but it makes me nervous ...
> this wasn't a typo or inadvertant bug, it was a clear misunderstanding of
> the automake/autoconf system ... and it's hard to imagine this was ever
> tested, otherwise it should have been clear that it didn't do what was
> intended.  Anyway, it should now be fixed, so on with life ... :-)
> 
> Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG: FG HEAD fails to compile after recent changes to configure.ac (reverting fixes it)

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> Are you building on the Mac OSX platform?
> 
No. On Gentoo Linux (x86_64)

Regards,

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[Flightgear-devel] BUG: FG HEAD fails to compile after recent changes to configure.ac (reverting fixes it)

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Thanks to timoore on IRC for helping find the cause of this.

It seems that a recent checkin broke the build system if osg is installed in a 
custom location.
- --with-osg=/home/anmaster/local/flightgear-osg in my case.

I got this from configure:
checking osg/Version usability... yes
checking osg/Version presence... yes
checking for osg/Version... yes
./configure: line 11740: USE_OSGDEBUG: command not found
checking for osgViewerGetVersion in -losgViewer... no
checking for osgGAGetVersion in -losgGA... no
checking for osgTextGetVersion in -losgText... no
checking for osgUtilGetVersion in -losgUtil... no
checking for osgDBGetVersion in -losgDB... no
checking for osgSimGetVersion in -losgSim... no
checking for osgGetVersion in -losg... no
checking for OpenThreadsGetVersion in -lOpenThreads... no

but configure finished successfully.

But then I got this at the final linking of the binary:
../../src/Main/libMain.a(renderer.o): In function 
`fgDumpTerrainBranchToFile(char const*)':
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x2bb): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::Registry::instance(bool)'
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x2cd): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::writeNodeFile(osg::Node const&,
std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, 
osgDB::
ReaderWriter::Options const*)'
../../src/Main/libMain.a(renderer.o): In function `fgDumpSceneGraphToFile(char 
const*)':
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x380): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::Registry::instance(bool)'
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x392): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::writeNodeFile(osg::Node const&,
std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, 
osgDB::
ReaderWriter::Options const*)'
../../src/Main/libMain.a(renderer.o): In function `fgDumpNodeToFile(osg::Node*, 
char const*)':
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x439): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::Registry::instance(bool)'
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x44b): undefined reference to 
`osgDB::writeNodeFile(osg::Node const&,
std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, 
osgDB::
ReaderWriter::Options const*)'
../../src/Main/libMain.a(renderer.o): In function `FGRenderer::update(bool)':
renderer.cxx:(.text+0x7a5): undefined reference to 
`osg::FrameStamp::setCalendarTime(tm const&)'
../../src/Main/libMain.a(renderer.o): In function 
`__static_initialization_and_destruction_0(int, int)':

And about 6000 lines more like that...

After reverting according to timoore's instructions:
 cvs update -r1.125 configure.ac
 cvs update -r1.79 src/Main/Makefile.am
and re-running autogen.sh
the building works again.


Regards,

Arvid Norlander



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: Fixing the tile numbering scheme

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> My gut feeling is that once you get up (or down) into the latittudes where
> the tiles get significantly skinny, the resolution of the available data
> drops of significantly.  We really don't have a per-tile triangle budget
> anyway.  The only place where I see this making a difference is the
> concentration of terrain elevation points would increase, but this is up in
> an area where we only have very low res terrain data anyway.  SRTM drops out
> beyond +/- 60 degrees latitude.
Yes and that is a considerable problems for Sweden and Canada as shown on these 
screenshots of Atlas:

Sweden: Notice the area without elevation data (in which I live...)
http://pics.ww.com/v/AnMaster/fgfs/bugs/fgfs-altproblem.png.html

And this one is just strange (North Canada):
http://pics.ww.com/v/AnMaster/fgfs/bugs/fgfs-altproblem-canada.png.html


Could you maybe use some other data for this area to make it at least possible 
to fly a bit in these
areas. Patch up the areas where STRM is lacking with something else instead.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat tower altitude question (possible bug?) - patch

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 8:56 PM, Csaba Halasz <> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have changed Tiago's patch somewhat, it now iterates over all the
>> ground layers.
>> Debug output looks like this for KSFO:
>>
>> Found tower ground layer at 124.323ft, material 
>> Found tower ground layer at 114.536ft, material 
>> Found tower ground layer at 82.3405ft, material 
>> Found tower ground layer at 42.9577ft, material 
>> Found tower ground layer at 5.36808ft, material pc_tiedown
>> Setting tower viewpoint altitude 112.368
>>
>> I was hoping to find a layer like "Grass" or "Ground" somewhere, but
>> no. So for now, the code picks the lowest layer, which might not work
>> if the tower is sunk into the ground as other objects frequently are.
>> I tested LHBP and that worked (even had grass material).
>>
>> Also attached is a patch to apt.dat (gunzip, patch, gzip) that updates
>> KSFO and KNID tower viewpoint based on the scenery.
>> I am not sure we can trust the tower position in apt.dat, since the
>> elevation values are frequently obvious nonsense (500 for KSFO and 0
>> for KNID).
>>
>> Please comment.
> 
> 
> Isn't the airport altitude also reported in the same file?
> 
> We should be able to set the tower altitude in MSL to apt_alt + tower_alt.
> It seems like extreme overkill to actually query the ground elevation.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Curt.
> 

However the airport altitude seldom matches the scenery. While this is a pitty, 
what would users
notice most:

* Tower view is calculated from scenery, so it any tower building placed on the 
terrain in scenery.
* Tower view is calculated from entry in apt.dat that is likely not the same as 
the scenery, tower
view may end up above tower, or below tower (or even below ground)

Since the elevation values are way off as Jester mentioned, I think basing it 
on scenery is best.
However the airport altitude should probably be corrected as well.


Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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[Flightgear-devel] FGFS HEAD locks up when a 787 joins mp

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It seems like OSG-based FlightGear locks up or slows down to less than 1 FPS if 
a 787 joins over mp
near you. For example, today I was flying concorde, had just landed and was 
taxing to KSFO terminal
and a 787 joined:

Chat [*FGMS*] NJ7983 is now online, using

Chat [*FGMS*] Aircraft/787/Models/787ANA.xml

FGFS then locked up for about 20 seconds, or so, by then the MP connection had 
timed out:

Chat [*FGMS*] Welcome to pigeond.net

Chat [*FGMS*] using protocol version v1.1This server is tracked.


Then it instantly locked up again, and after 20 more seconds, reconnected and 
so on.

I looked for an AI model for 787, and found an XML file that just loads the 
full model. I'd suggest
using a simplified model for the AI model, that should help against these 
lockups. As it is now, any
787 joining mp prevents any osg user flying nearby. Csaba reported he had a 
similar problem with 787
recently (just very very low fps, not total lockup).

For the reference I got a nVidia GeForce 7600 with the drivers 100.14.19.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG report: MP chat on screen messages broken in harrier

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Csaba Halasz wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008 11:46 AM, AnMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Nasal runtime error: No such member: trim
>>   at /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Nasal/screen.nas, line 99
>>
>> This happens with both osg and plib branches, and it only happens in harrier.
> 
> Apparently another case of missing "var" keyword. Try attached patch.
> 
This patch works for me.

Can you get it committed?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view options

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Maik Justus wrote:
> Hi Arvid,
> maybe your pixels are not of square size? If yes: can you look to 
> /sim/current-view/aspect-ratio-multiplier? If it is not 1, then we need 
> to scale 47.5 with this factor (to get a larger fov).

Hm, my fault it seems. I remembered wrong, after double checking it is 
1400x1050. I hope that makes
more sense. Sorry for the unneeded confusion.

Regards,

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[Flightgear-devel] BUG report: MP chat on screen messages broken in harrier

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When using --aircraft=harrier mp chat messages doesn't show up on screen, 
however festival still
speaks them. Each time I get one of the mp chat messages while flying harrier, 
I get this error
output on the console:
Nasal runtime error: No such member: trim
  at /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Nasal/screen.nas, line 99
  called from: /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Nasal/screen.nas, line 267
  called from: /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Nasal/screen.nas, line 305
  called from: /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Nasal/globals.nas, line 79

This happens with both osg and plib branches, and it only happens in harrier.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view options

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Maik Justus wrote:
> Hi Arvid,
> AnMaster schrieb am 04.01.2008 23:13:
>> My resoltion is 1400x1280,
> not 4:3 nor 16:9 ?
20" 1400x1280 TFT. I got no idea what format it is, but the monitor works well 
for me.
The screen area of the monitor is about 30.5 cm high and 41 cm wide (+/- a few 
millimeters).
>> but you also have to consider window borders. Not sure how large they
>> are, however the screenshots I took at www.flightgear.org (A10-KNID-01 for 
>> example), were in
>> maximized window. Should be possible to calculate from that.
>>   
> I think the borders have only very small effect to the calculation. Just 
> try a fov of  47.5 (if your resolution is 1400x1280).
Will try that.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view options

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My resoltion is 1400x1280, but you also have to consider window borders. Not 
sure how large they
are, however the screenshots I took at www.flightgear.org (A10-KNID-01 for 
example), were in
maximized window. Should be possible to calculate from that.

Other than that I think Alex Bory's suggestion was very good.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander


Maik Justus wrote:
> Hi,
> it takes into account the aspect ratio of the window. If it is 4:3 
> everything is unchanged. If it is larger (e.g. 1024:704) you will get a 
> higher field of view. Maybe you can try the patch (or set fov to 
> 55/(4/3)*(1024/704) = 60 in the property tree: 
> /sim/current-view/field-of-view) and check, if it is noticeable, and if 
> yes: if it is better or worse than the 55. (replace 1024 and 704=768-64 
> with your resolution)
> 
> Maik
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] view options

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How does this work with windowed mode (that I always use, as maximized window, 
still showing the 64
pixels high KDE taskbar at the bottom, and window edges). My monitor is 4:3, 
but the window isn't.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Maik Justus wrote:
> Hi,
> Maik Justus schrieb am 26.12.2007 20:38:
>> Hi Syd,
>>
>> what's about an algorithm, which checks the ratio of the screen and
>> sets fow to 55 for 4:3 screens and 70 for 16:9 screens? (55 / 70 = 
>> (4/3) / (16/9) )
>>
>> Maik
>> P.S.:
>> for non-physicists:
>> (55 / 73,333 =  (4/3) / (16/9) )
>>
>>   
> Meanwhile I have a new computer wit 16:9 screen and the same problem.
> I've modified the calculation in viewer.cxx as mentioned above. Syd,
> please check, if this would work for you. Then we can think about, how
> to implement that in a clean way (maybe we need an FG_SCALING_HEIGHT
> case?). The patch is for the osg-branch, but it works with the plib
> branch, too (maybe some lines offset).
> 
> Maik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Map-overlay for mpmap

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It seems like all the modes are overlayed with the map though, like the old 
hybrid mode (that seems
gone). I miss the mode without all the labels and road lines on it. :/

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Gijs de Rooy wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> First to all of you: a very Merry Christmas and a nice 2008!
>  
> As you may noticed, there's a new overlay on the google maps 
> (see http://maps.google.com) it's called Terrain. I thought it
> may be nice for us, pilots, to have this layer in the mpmap to.
> That's because you can see actually mountains wich will be very
> usefull I think.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gijs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

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Maik Justus wrote:
> Hi Gerard,
> gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
>> BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between  water 
>> and 
>> solid
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>   
> Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like 
> water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere 
> you have no scenery  installed.
That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float plane on sea 
tiles then?

And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was unable to take 
off, because the
aircraft had "crashed" into the water.

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

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Torsten Dreyer wrote:
>> fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at
>> south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north
>> of a certain point that is.
> Oh - no rich-people-cocktail-party with a helicopter at the north-pole.
Heh? What did you plan?!

>> How did you take off from the water btw?
> Normal takeoff: full throttle, rotate at 60 and go.
Ah it is JSBSim then?

Yasim would had crashed.

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[Flightgear-devel] CVS server problems

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Currently I'm unable to reach the cvs server and some other people on IRC 
confirmed this.

It seems like both cvs and terrasync/scenery server is down (apart from my 
terrasync mirror, it is up).

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

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fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at 
south poles. Also we lack
scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north of a certain point that is.

How did you take off from the water btw?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Torsten Dreyer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> just launched a current cvs build with
> ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 
> --lon=10
> As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery installed.
> After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water vanishes and 
> there is nothing than some mystical white mist. 
> Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg
> Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not 
> descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited.
> 
> Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here?
> 
> Torsten
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[Flightgear-devel] Fgtracker broken for mpserv02?

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It seems like fgtracker no longer registers flights on mpserv02, is it broken.

http://fgfs.i-net.hu/modules/fgtracker/?FUNCT=FLIGHTS&CALLSIGN=AMaster doesn't 
show any flights
since December 15, and I have done several on 02.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.flightgear.org broken with JavaScript disabled

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 1:15 PM, AnMaster  wrote:
>> I went in on www.flightgear.org just a few minutes ago and noticed it
>> changed a lot. The menu on the
>> left was gone. And there were no menu anywhere else. Someone else said
>> there was a new menu at the
>> top. I couldn't see it. Then I got an idea, maybe someone forgot using
>>  to provide a menu
>> that works for people without javascript? I checked with another browser,
>> and yes now there was a menu.
>>
>> Please make the menu work without javascript.
> 
> Feel free to point me to some  docs.  The main menu before was
> also done with a javascript function so the web site has required javascript
> now for quite some time.
Odd it worked before in same browser. Very odd.

http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_noscript.asp
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#h-18.3.1

Using php both versions could be generated from one source, that would make it 
simpler to maintain.

Considering how common Firefox extensions such as NoScript are nowdays(*) a lot 
of people will end
up without menu.

Best regards,

Arvid Norlander



* Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoScript
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[Flightgear-devel] www.flightgear.org broken with JavaScript disabled

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I went in on www.flightgear.org just a few minutes ago and noticed it changed a 
lot. The menu on the
left was gone. And there were no menu anywhere else. Someone else said there 
was a new menu at the
top. I couldn't see it. Then I got an idea, maybe someone forgot using 
 to provide a menu
that works for people without javascript? I checked with another browser, and 
yes now there was a menu.

Please make the menu work without javascript.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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[Flightgear-devel] apt.dat tower altitude question (possible bug?)

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I was working on trying to find the cause why tower altitude set to 70 in 
apt.dat wasn't correct and
caused ATC aircraft to end up under ground.

As far as I understood we use same format as x-plane for apt.dat? Then the 
tower elevation in
apt.dat should be ft above ground.

FlightGear stores the tower altitude under /sim/tower/altitude-ft. ATC use this 
as absolute altitude.
Shouldn't that property be renamed to "altitude-agl-ft" in order to indicate 
that it is relative to
ground? That naming scheme is used under /position.
Or the property could be changed to give the altitude above sea level maybe?

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] repeatable keys

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Indeed AltGr is broken with SDL last I tried (Swedish keyboard here) so I
recommend glut in that case until the osgviewer input works nicely.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Cédric Lucantis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
 I'd like to know if the 'repeatable' flag in the key bindings is
 supposed to work ?
>>> Yes, but only with SDL. It does (AFAIK) not yet work with
>>> osgViewer, and it will probably never work with glut.
>> ok it works, thanks for the tip, but now I have a bigger problem ;)
>> It concerns keys using the alt-gr modifier (and sometimes some other
>> modifiers) : when not repeatable, those only work the first time you
>> press them and then get 'stuck' and never work again.
> 
> hum, sorry to insist, but am I the only one to have this problem ? 
> Doesn't sound like a trivial bug... I'm using SDL now and with all 
> default settings (and a french keyboard) many of my flight commands are 
> just unusable (maybe this does not happen with us/uk keyboard as these 
> don't have so many non-ascii keys? Do they have an alt-gr modifier?)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote

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Holger Wirtz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> after thinking about this feature I recognized that there are some
> problems:
> 
> Real radio has a limited range. So you can use the same frequency at
> every point on the world. If you can hear someone on the same frequency
> depends on how much power his transmitter has (and some other physical
> rules) and/or how far away he is and so on. But with the normal radio
> in a plane (or on ground) you cannot reach the whole world. And radio
> communication is a broadcast media.
> 
> Now try to solve this with unicast media (such as VoIP). Without
> information about the coords of each member you cannot decide "how far
> away" you can be heared by other users.
> 
> I have tried to fix this problem by using one well known coordinate (the
> one of the tower) and the next one of the plane - and a limited range.
> fgcom calculates which airport is most nearby your selected frequency.
> With the coords of this airport it can calculate how far away fgcom is
> and it can drop the line if it is out of range.
> 
> The ideal algorithm would be some kind of conference server which gets
> the frequency it is responsible for, the voice streams _and_ the coords
> of all members on this frequency. With this data the stream for _each_
> member can be mixed up (far away = quite) and send it towards each
> client.
> 
> The problem is: that has not much to do with VoIP - so you havn't any
> features of VoIP and no implementations for server and client. Feel free
> to do so :-)
> 
> Perhaps someone can extend the IAX2 protocol and write a new
> app_meetme.so for Asterisk which ca realise this. But I think it is not
> really neccessary at this time.
I could not do it in C or C++ but I might be able in, lets say, C#. though
currently I working on too many other open source things, both related to
flightgear and other things, to have time.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3-Dimensional forests.

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I tried doing this but I couldn't get it to work. How do you "set a trace with 
it"?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Georg Vollnhals -- Wednesday 19 December 2007:
>> You asked on the FG forum for driving cars. I made an example a long
>> time ago with a driving truck on the EDDW airport.
> 
> BTW: the ufo does since a while export flightplans. You just
> select an arbitrary object, set a trace with it, and press
> the 'n'-key. Final adjustments have to be done manually, of
> course. Setting a snowplow route with that should be a matter
> of minutes.  :-)
> 
> m.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance issues in Win32

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I don't know where it is on windows but on Linux there is an xml in
$HOME/.fgfs/autosave.xml and for each aircraft $HOME/.fgfs/aircraft-data/*.xml.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Shad Young wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Again not sure if I should post this to the users list.
> 
> I have been experimenting with the latest FG 1.0.0 on Win32 (XP SP2) and 
> am having some rather significant frame dropping.
> 
> FPS on or near the ground at San Fran in all AC often results in long 
> pauses and jumps, with regular stutters. FPS are all over the map, from 
> 60fps to 1 frame every couple of seconds.
> 
> I am using a Dual Core FX60, 2 Gig DDR, with an NV8800GTX.
> 
> Are there specific tweaks that can be made, or are there some settings 
> that should be turned off? I have tried to reset to default but then FG 
> launcher seems to crash.
> 
> I tried to remove FG using the uninstall program and then cleaning out 
> the registry, deleting the folder etc, but it seems to be keeping the 
> settings that I had with FG 0.9.10 (is there an INI somewhere other than 
> in the FG folder in Program Files?)
> 
> TIA
> Shad
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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Wow nice. Can I get the aircraft somewhere? Maybe a tarball and help test it? :D

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

flying.toaster wrote:
> Yet work in progress but it may become a worthwhile addition to the carrier 
> borne aircraft in a short while
> Done with 4x FSAA
> 
> http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/flightgear/TomcatNimitz.jpg
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Enrique
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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Chris Metzler wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:33:26 +0100
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> 
> (snip good suggestions about various pictures in the gallery)
> 
> The one big suggestion I'd make is to drop the current caption for
> each photo, which appears to just be the base filename for each
> image, and replace it with a brief bit of text that describes what
> we're looking at.  Some come close to this ("f4u-on-carrier").
> But "dhc2F-CYDL-07" is going to be meaningless to a large fraction
> of those who see it.  "deHavilland Beaver flying in mountains at
> sunset" or just "Beaver at sunset" or even "deHavilland DHC-2F
> Beaver" would work a lot better.  For another, "Lightning-KSFO-06"
> -- why does the page visitor need to know or care that it's image
> #6?  And so on.  Heck, I can imagine a complete newbie not knowing
> what KSFO means.
> 
> Oh, and I'd keep trying very hard to get some of Heiko Schulz' images
> in there.  Some of them are gorgeous.
> 
> -c
I agree.

Another thing: some images seems to lack AA, for example "787gskb9".

A third issue:
http://flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/Source/seneca-flash.jpg
http://flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/Source/Rescue_1.jpg and several more images
got really bad jpg artifacts that are visible even on the thumbnails.

Seems like someone compressed a jpeg compressed image instead of basing them all
on a looseless original. The result is that the artifacts add up and the images
look bad. For best result all the smaller images should be generated from a
looseless image. And I think the full sized images should use png or very high
quality jpeg.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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Yes much easier to see what is happening.:D

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

gerard robin wrote:
> On mer 19 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote:
>> On mer 19 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote:
>>> Hm another issue: in S-51-on_carrier one of the aircrafts in the
>>> background seems partly below deck?
>> Hello, Arvid
>> If you want i can UP the elevator.   :)
>>
>> Cheers
> 
> I have just added a new snapshot with the same scenery, 
> the diff:
> The Corsair is now on the front deck elevator.
> 
> This could avoid any misunderstanding.
> 
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/S-51-on_carrier_2.jpg
> 
> BTW: every snapshots links remains here 
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/
> I had only to remove Blackbird-aar_3.jpg (was not significant and not 
> selected) in order to get space.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote

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Holger Wirtz wrote:
> Hi Arvid,
> No, yes, no... yes it's a kind of bug. I had such things not in mind as
> I wrote fgcom. There should be a feature that allows to use the echo box
> even if you are authenticated to the server but this works only as
> guest. I will fix this soon. Than I have to setup asterisk to create
> conferences for _every_ frequency. That maybe working but I have to
> think about problems with this...
> 
> Regards, Holger
> 
Nice. But do fgcom make a difference between the same frequency used for, lets
say, an airport in Sweden and one in US? Or if you use it in any place just
outside the range of that airport?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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What about:
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-05.png


Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Curtis Olson wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2007 7:09 PM, AnMaster <> wrote:
>> Here are 3:
>>
>> http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-02.png<http://rage.kuonet.org/%7Eanmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-02.png>
>>
>> http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-03.png<http://rage.kuonet.org/%7Eanmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-03.png>
>>
>> http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-04.png<http://rage.kuonet.org/%7Eanmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-04.png>
>>
>> I had real weather fetch and real time, very nice time of day. These are
>> pre-compressed as before and use same stuff in nvidia-settings.
> 
> 
> Melchior commented that low light and dark screen shots just don't come out
> looking all that great in thumbnails and smaller versions.  We have quite a
> few darker shots already.  I'd like to find something that is more towards
> the middle of the day so that everything is brighter.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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Here are 3:
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-02.png
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-03.png
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/Areostar-700-KSFO-04.png

I had real weather fetch and real time, very nice time of day. These are
pre-compressed as before and use same stuff in nvidia-settings.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

AnMaster wrote:
> I'll see what I can do today or tomorrow.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arvid Norlander
> 
> Curtis Olson wrote:
>> Ok, I'll remove that, but I'd be happy to add back in some other Aerostar
>> picture if it was submitted.
> 
>> Curt.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2007 6:26 PM, AnMaster <> wrote:
> 
>> The Aerostar-700-KSFO-01 should not be included it shows some ILS thing in
>> the
>> water, looks bad.
> 
>> Regards,
> 
>> Arvid Norlander
> 
>> Curtis Olson wrote:
>>>>> Here is a prototype for the v1.0 Gallery:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/<http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/tmp/v1.0/>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've taken the best of the pictures that were submitted on the mailing
>> list
>>>>> and organized and arranged them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are a few things that jump out at me:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The big commercial jets with glass cockpits seem very under
>> represented.
>>>>> 2. It would be nice to have a couple more interior shots showing some of
>> our
>>>>> full 3d, fully operational cockpits.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. A few of the pictures are really great, but some of them could be
>>>>> improved upon.  There's no time limit for sending me better images that
>>>>> could either be added to the page, or replace an existing image. (Our
>>>>> primary goal is to show our best side here, if someone's image is
>> removed or
>>>>> replaced, please don't be upset!)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Do we have a nice outside view of a glider or two?
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Can someone send an image of the osprey with it's rotors all folded
>> up?
>>>>> 6. The aspect ratios on these images are all over the map which makes
>> the
>>>>> page look really sloppy.  I would like to standardize on a 1.333 aspect
>>>>> ratio (1024x768 or 1600x1200, but not 1280x1024).  Would it be possible
>> to
>>>>> find a volunteer willing to crop the original images so they all have a
>>>>> matching aspect ratio and thus line up on the page?  I can send you the
>> raw
>>>>> images or provide a place for easy download (like right here:
>>>>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/Source/<http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/tmp/v1.0/Source/>
>> )
>>>>> 7. The thumbnails and larger versions of the images are all
>> autogenerated
>>>>> via a script so we have some control over the styling of the page, but
>> there
>>>>> are limits.  Mostly I'd like to focus on expanding our set of quality
>>>>> pictures and we can worry about page layout details a little later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Curt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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I'll see what I can do today or tomorrow.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Curtis Olson wrote:
> Ok, I'll remove that, but I'd be happy to add back in some other Aerostar
> picture if it was submitted.
> 
> Curt.
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2007 6:26 PM, AnMaster <> wrote:
> 
> The Aerostar-700-KSFO-01 should not be included it shows some ILS thing in
> the
> water, looks bad.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arvid Norlander
> 
> Curtis Olson wrote:
>>>> Here is a prototype for the v1.0 Gallery:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/<http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/tmp/v1.0/>
>>>>
>>>> I've taken the best of the pictures that were submitted on the mailing
> list
>>>> and organized and arranged them.
>>>>
>>>> Here are a few things that jump out at me:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The big commercial jets with glass cockpits seem very under
> represented.
>>>> 2. It would be nice to have a couple more interior shots showing some of
> our
>>>> full 3d, fully operational cockpits.
>>>>
>>>> 3. A few of the pictures are really great, but some of them could be
>>>> improved upon.  There's no time limit for sending me better images that
>>>> could either be added to the page, or replace an existing image. (Our
>>>> primary goal is to show our best side here, if someone's image is
> removed or
>>>> replaced, please don't be upset!)
>>>>
>>>> 4. Do we have a nice outside view of a glider or two?
>>>>
>>>> 5. Can someone send an image of the osprey with it's rotors all folded
> up?
>>>> 6. The aspect ratios on these images are all over the map which makes
> the
>>>> page look really sloppy.  I would like to standardize on a 1.333 aspect
>>>> ratio (1024x768 or 1600x1200, but not 1280x1024).  Would it be possible
> to
>>>> find a volunteer willing to crop the original images so they all have a
>>>> matching aspect ratio and thus line up on the page?  I can send you the
> raw
>>>> images or provide a place for easy download (like right here:
>>>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/Source/<http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/tmp/v1.0/Source/>
> )
>>>> 7. The thumbnails and larger versions of the images are all
> autogenerated
>>>> via a script so we have some control over the styling of the page, but
> there
>>>> are limits.  Mostly I'd like to focus on expanding our set of quality
>>>> pictures and we can worry about page layout details a little later.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Curt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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Hm another issue: in S-51-on_carrier one of the aircrafts in the background
seems partly below deck?

Also I see jpeg artifacts even in the largest version, I would suggest that the
full versions are either done in png or highest quality jpeg.

Also some of the full sized pngs load faster than the medium sized jpgs (example
dhc2F-CYDL-07). Odd. I used optipng -o 7 on all my pngs before uploading them.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

AnMaster wrote:
> The Aerostar-700-KSFO-01 should not be included it shows some ILS thing in the
> water, looks bad.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arvid Norlander
> 
> Curtis Olson wrote:
>> Here is a prototype for the v1.0 Gallery:
> 
>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/
> 
>> I've taken the best of the pictures that were submitted on the mailing list
>> and organized and arranged them.
> 
>> Here are a few things that jump out at me:
> 
>> 1. The big commercial jets with glass cockpits seem very under represented.
> 
>> 2. It would be nice to have a couple more interior shots showing some of our
>> full 3d, fully operational cockpits.
> 
>> 3. A few of the pictures are really great, but some of them could be
>> improved upon.  There's no time limit for sending me better images that
>> could either be added to the page, or replace an existing image. (Our
>> primary goal is to show our best side here, if someone's image is removed or
>> replaced, please don't be upset!)
> 
>> 4. Do we have a nice outside view of a glider or two?
> 
>> 5. Can someone send an image of the osprey with it's rotors all folded up?
> 
>> 6. The aspect ratios on these images are all over the map which makes the
>> page look really sloppy.  I would like to standardize on a 1.333 aspect
>> ratio (1024x768 or 1600x1200, but not 1280x1024).  Would it be possible to
>> find a volunteer willing to crop the original images so they all have a
>> matching aspect ratio and thus line up on the page?  I can send you the raw
>> images or provide a place for easy download (like right here:
>> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/Source/)
> 
>> 7. The thumbnails and larger versions of the images are all autogenerated
>> via a script so we have some control over the styling of the page, but there
>> are limits.  Mostly I'd like to focus on expanding our set of quality
>> pictures and we can worry about page layout details a little later.
> 
>> Thanks,
> 
>> Curt.
> 
> 
>> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] v1.0 Gallery Page

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The Aerostar-700-KSFO-01 should not be included it shows some ILS thing in the
water, looks bad.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Curtis Olson wrote:
> Here is a prototype for the v1.0 Gallery:
> 
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/
> 
> I've taken the best of the pictures that were submitted on the mailing list
> and organized and arranged them.
> 
> Here are a few things that jump out at me:
> 
> 1. The big commercial jets with glass cockpits seem very under represented.
> 
> 2. It would be nice to have a couple more interior shots showing some of our
> full 3d, fully operational cockpits.
> 
> 3. A few of the pictures are really great, but some of them could be
> improved upon.  There's no time limit for sending me better images that
> could either be added to the page, or replace an existing image. (Our
> primary goal is to show our best side here, if someone's image is removed or
> replaced, please don't be upset!)
> 
> 4. Do we have a nice outside view of a glider or two?
> 
> 5. Can someone send an image of the osprey with it's rotors all folded up?
> 
> 6. The aspect ratios on these images are all over the map which makes the
> page look really sloppy.  I would like to standardize on a 1.333 aspect
> ratio (1024x768 or 1600x1200, but not 1280x1024).  Would it be possible to
> find a volunteer willing to crop the original images so they all have a
> matching aspect ratio and thus line up on the page?  I can send you the raw
> images or provide a place for easy download (like right here:
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/v1.0/Source/)
> 
> 7. The thumbnails and larger versions of the images are all autogenerated
> via a script so we have some control over the styling of the page, but there
> are limits.  Mostly I'd like to focus on expanding our set of quality
> pictures and we can worry about page layout details a little later.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Curt.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote

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So when will this be fixed. Considering the type of flights I normally make I
really need this feature. For example I was planning cross atlantic flight with
in air refueling over mp using fgcom but until this BUG is fixed that is not
possible. Because I consider it a bug.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Csaba Halász wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2007 5:36 PM, AnMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I
>> always get "Call rejected by remote". That is wrong, I should be able to use 
>> any
>> frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport
>> out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport 
>> in
>> range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my 
>> radio,
>> and only those.
> 
> Yes, the design of fgcom doesn't support that at the moment. That is
> not a bug, but a limitation.
> Currently fgcom is mostly usable for fixed position ATC.
> 
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[Flightgear-devel] MP chat BUGs

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Using the new feature that allows pre-made lines to be said using the - key is
often impossible:
For example when I was on an approach to runway 28R of KSFO it suggested an
airport that was behind me, though closer. Screenshot:

Much better would be getting the closest airport with a matching tower frequency
than just using the nearest airport.

Screenshot of the above mentioned approach:
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/bugs/mp-chat-20071218/fgfs-screen-010.png

As a result this function is unusable in areas with many close airport (like
around KSFO, the default airport)
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[Flightgear-devel] Bugs with recent CVS HEAD (osg)

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When starting lightning using fg/osg HEAD today I got some odd z-fightning
issues with the squadron markings in external view. Command line used was:
- --enable-real-weather-fetch --prop:sim/traffic-manager/enabled=0
- --aircraft=lightning --airport=LSTZ

See the screenshots:
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/bugs/osg-head-20071218/fgfs-screen-063.png
and
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/bugs/osg-head-20071218/fgfs-screen-064.png


Also about 10% of the times I start flightgear I end up starting below terrain
and falling.

Regards,

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[Flightgear-devel] FGCOM bug: Call rejected by remote

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When I select a frequency that is not a tower freq for any nearby airport I
always get "Call rejected by remote". That is wrong, I should be able to use any
frequency anywhere and talk to any aircraft within range. There is no airport
out over the Atlantic for example. There are a lot of places with no airport in
range, yet I should be able to talk to other aircrafts within range of my radio,
and only those.

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft downloads page update

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I agree, aircrafts without 3D models should not be included (apart from
psedo-aircrafts like ATC and MIBS that aren't meant to have 3D models).

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Fabian Grodek wrote:
> The download page contains other aircrafts with no 3D models:
> 1. F-15 (NOT F-15C)
> 2. Marchetti
> 3. X-24B
> 4. Shuttle
> Their FDM are present.
> I particularly like to have the FDM of these aircraft available, but, at
> least for the JSBSim models (X24B and Shuttle), they can be (and indeed
> are) are available from JSBSim CVS, which is a natural place to look for
> them.
> This would probably be a new discussion: whether to include or not aircraft
> without 3D models in the aircraft download page. I vote for NO.
> 
> Fabian
> 
> On 12/17/07, Maik Justus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Curt,
>>
>> could you please delete the as350 and the bell206 from the download
>> page? Both have no 3D-model and a very poor FDM.
>>
>> The hornet and the fk9mk2 are done by Emmanuel Baranger (3D) and me (FDM).
>>
>> Melchior: Whats about changing the bo105 status from beta to production?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Maik
>>
>> Curtis Olson schrieb am 17.12.2007 21:25:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have updated the aircraft downloads page with all the lastest
>>> versions of the available (CVS) aircraft.  Many of the new ones do not
>>> have a thumbnail image for the web page, and a few of them have been
>>> copied from other aircraft and are incorrect.  It would be great if
>>> people could grab a quick preview image and submit/commit it for the
>>> aircraft that don't yet have one.
>>>
>>> http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/aircraft/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Another thing: those hangars at that airport, when I flew there (terrasync
scenery) I couldn't find them?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Torsten Dreyer wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007 18:11 schrieb AnMaster:
>> There is also an undoccuemnted key binding (in aircraft help) that I found
>> looking in -set.xml file: o - drops banner. However it drops banner even if
>> no banner is picked up. Bug?
> Oups - yes. Will fix both. Thanks for the hint.
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Why is there a black area at the bottom of each picture? If you want to hide FPS
counter just turn it off in "Rendering Options" under "View" menu.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Heiko Schulz wrote:
> Some more from me:
> 
> http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0016.htm
> Really nice textures - I didn't try the photorealistic
> one yet!
> 
> http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0017.htm
> And a very nice cockpit too!
> 
> http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0018.htm
> For showing tutorial feature
> 
> http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0019.htm
> 
> http://www.hoerbird.net/page-0020.htm
> 
> Regards
> HHS
> 
> still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html
> But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html
> 
> 
>__ Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den 
> schönsten Strand? www.yahoo.de/clever
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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There is also an undoccuemnted key binding (in aircraft help) that I found
looking in -set.xml file: o - drops banner. However it drops banner even if no
banner is picked up. Bug?

Regards,
Arvid Norlander

Torsten Dreyer wrote:
>> How did you do the banner? the model in fg doesn't seem to have a banner
>> when I look.
> Hehe - of course not. You don't get it for free, you have to pick it up in 
> flight!
> 
> First you need the latest CVS version (last modification was 5 weeks ago). 
> Next, a little configuration file is needed as described in
> http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Dragonfly
> 
> If you want to cheat, you can set /sim/model/banner-on-hook to true and you 
> have your banner - but thats really unfair!
> 
> Enjoy, Torsten
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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How did you do the banner? the model in fg doesn't seem to have a banner when I
look.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Torsten Dreyer wrote:
>>> I have one, too
>> And one more, showing the Dragonfly microlight towing the FlightGear banner
>> at Lelystad, EHLE.
>> It has some nice shadows and shows our perfect implementation of the
>> flatness of the Netherlands (sorry, Durk and Gijs ;-)
> 
> Oups - forgot the link. Here it is:
> http://www.t3r.de/fg/screenshots/Dragonfly-TowingBannerEHLE.jpg
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] missing fsfgdb files in base package?

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Worse is that the lamposts look like crap during dawn and dusk, they are just
black rectangles with a white pattern on then.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Morten Oesterlund Joergensen wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 19:59 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote:
>> But now I am concerned that all these missing light models are now
>> placed incorrectly around the SFO area (or at least are not aligned
>> properly with the terminal building) and I'm also concerned that these
>> lights are not appropriate for SFO in the first place.  It's a very
>> nice model, but I don't think SFO has this style of lighting where
>> these lights are placed. 
> 
> I added those lights to FlightGear Scenery Database months ago. I am not
> sure if it was legal, but I did my best to find the lights on Google
> Maps, often identified using their shadows. I then centered the view
> around each one and copied the coordinate link, which FGFSDB takes as
> input. I am not sure if Google Maps' coordinates was that precise, but I
> just thought it was better than nothing.
> I would not be surprised if Google Maps' imagery has changed since then.
> I just took a look at some of the lights and I was not able to see those
> anymore on the images.
> I have not seen that model used anywhere around KSFO before I added the
> objects.
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Csaba Halász wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2007 12:39 AM, alexis bory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> if this can help AnMaster, pictures marked from 0 to 3 from
>> http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/
> 
> Okay, I'll just list the ones I graded with a 3 ;)
> 
> A-10-KNID-01.png (the rwy edge is somewhat jagged, is that really 
> antialiased?)
Yes it is. I don't know why the edge looks like that.
> A-6E-Nimitz-01.png (wouldn't mind if the Nimitz was a little closer)
Well the water texture attached to the Nimitz is quite low res, if I'm closer it
looks jagged around the edges.
> Seahawk-Foch-01.png
> Seahawk-SeaVixen-Nimitz-01.png
> V22-Osprey-KSFO-01.png (definitely need a picture of V22, this is the
> better of the two)
> dhc2F-CYDL-02.png (I'd welcome a nicer background scenery though)
> dhc2F-CYDL-07.png (I love this one: the lighting, the mountains, and
> the star/planet)
Thanks

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2007 4:26 PM, AnMaster <> wrote:
> 
>> Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself
>> (compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F)
> 
> 
> It sounds to me like you have just volunteered.  And if no one else
> volunteers to help assemble the final screen shots, then no one else will be
> able to legitimately complain about your choices. :-)
Well sadly I won't have time either, busy until Monday evening.

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Curtis Olson wrote:
> I'm still playing catchup after being gone all week so I've missed a lot of
> the contributions people have posted here.  I am hoping that someone on the
> list here would be willing to glean through all the screenshot contributions
> and try to assemble maybe 10-20 of the very best ... that show a variety of
> interesting aircraft in their best light, that show a variety of terrain and
> environments and weather.  I agree that night shots seem to not work as well
> ... point lights get lost when images are resized, etc.  But some of the
> most compelling images I've seen have come when the sun is low in the sky,
> so having one or two dusk/dawn images would be good in my opinion.  And of
> course, if we can cleverly show features and details in the process that is
> also a great thing.  Gerards shot of the parachute drop is great because it
> shows off our dynamic "submodel" feature which might not be matched in
> capability by other simulators.
> 
> So if we can get a volunteer to assemble the best of the best submissions
> here, I can put them on the web site with thumbnails.  In addition, each
> image can have a caption if we want to point out a few special details for
> the visitors to look for.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Curt.


Indeed, however I'm biased here as I provided a lot of screenshots myself
(compressing some more at the moment of dhc2F)

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Very nice!
Have you commited the nicer parachutes to cvs? I would like to try some
screenshots with them too. :) Also where is that screenshot taken? What is the
local airport?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

gerard robin wrote:
> On sam 15 décembre 2007, gerard robin wrote:
>> On sam 15 décembre 2007, Heiko Schulz wrote:
>>> ..and a pity that the parachutes are nor really
>>> round...
>>>
>>> but this are the shots are needed!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> HHS
>>> --- AJ MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> schrieb:
 On Saturday 15 December 2007 14:34:19 gerard robin

 wrote:
> This could give an idea for an other snapshot.
 http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para.jpg

 Nice dramatic shot (the sky especially) - pity about
 the sharp flat top to the
 3d clouds to the right :-\

 Cheers,

 AJ
>> We know the problem about the clouds , Harald explained us the difficulty.
>>
>> About parachutes it is easier to solve => more poly, i must try it
>>
>> Cheers
> 
> An other one , without "the sharp flat top to the clouds" , and with 
> parachutes more realistic.
> 
> Anti-aliasing , Anisotropic Filter, Texture Sharpening, 1800X1440 (available 
> if necessary .ppm format)
> 
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-Para_1.jpg
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release in progress

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Vivian Meazza wrote:
> And there is a major issue with the chrome shader in the Camel - seems as if
> it makes the windscreen opaque in some systems - but not here.
> 
> Vivian 
> 
Both me and AJ had that problem.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Well I uploaded quite a few new screenshots to
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/
also I removed some that had flaws in them.

Feel free to use any for the official website. They are dual licensed under "GPL
2 or later" and "CC-by-sa-3.0" (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/).

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release in progress

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Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * AnMaster -- Saturday 15 December 2007:
>> Yes but tar ball have been made [...]
> 
> But they aren't released. Can still be fixed.
Indeed.

> 
> I'd revert the last changes to the dhc2F that broke it.
> The manual seems to have changed after the packaging, too,
> and there certainly was a reason for the changes.
> 
> Let's not make v1.0 the worst fgfs release ever.

But wouldn't setting up a real bug tracker be a good idea?

I'd suggest using mantis, it works well. I used it myself for the supertux
project that I'm a developer of. Bugzilla is a pain to setup (and it is overkill
and often confusing) and trac just lacks a lot of features. So mantis seems 
best.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release in progress

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Yes but tar ball have been made while blocker bugs still existed. If we had a
real bug tracker this could have been avoided. Durk Talsma would have seen that
there was a bug marked as blocker then and could have waited until it was fixed.
But as it is now with just this mailing list, it is hard to keep track of bugs.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * AnMaster -- Saturday 15 December 2007:
>> IIRC the Beaver was included. But as I mentioned before
>> ("[Flightgear-devel] Missing file in cvs for dhc2F") it is
>> broken. My mail seems to have been ignored. 
> 
> That's bad, indeed. The whole aircraft should get thrown out.
> There's a file in the seahawk missing, too ...
> 
> m.
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IIRC the Beaver was included. But as I mentioned before ("[Flightgear-devel]
Missing file in cvs for dhc2F") it is broken. My mail seems to have been 
ignored.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Durk Talsma wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just finished creating the release and placed the tar files on my server. 
> Due to the capacity limitations of my own server, I'm not providing a 
> download link here. They will hopefully shortly be transfered to the mirrors, 
> shortly. I've also given the people involved in building the windows and mac 
> binaries access to these files, so hopefully, these versions will also appear 
> soon.
> 
> Cheers,
> Durk
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Well I wanted to show the runway lights or aircraft lights in some of my
screenshots. Hard to do that at noon. :P

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> - dark screenshots should be avoided, as they likely look bad
>   on cheap and/or badly adjusted/adjustable monitors. I have that
>   problem with mine, and that wouldn't be a good reason, but I
>   also know that others have them. If you don't have anything to
>   hide, use daylight!  :-}
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Right. Some more screenshots uploaded to
http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0

New:
* A-10-KNID-02.png to A-10-KNID-18.png
* SopwithCamel-001.png

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Stefan Seifert wrote:
> Christian Mayer wrote:
>> About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their
>> web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc.
>> pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the
>> "customer" has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And
>> not every "customer" has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or
>> even better).
> 
> That's why usually galleries create a smaller version of the picture for
> immediate consumption (like 640x480) and link to the full version, which
> might even be the PNG, as the user already expects longer loading time.
Indeed (I'm currently compressing 18 new screeenshots, mostly of A-10 because it
looks so good with shadows, and optipng isn't fast, about 1-2 minutes for each
picture). It usually brings the image size down with something like 8-12 %
however. For example (output from a bash script, that I made, that runs 
optipng):
A-10-KNID-02.png : 477316
Output file size = 415936 bytes (61380 bytes = 12.86% decrease)

> 
>> I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution
>> of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves
>> roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600).
> 
> Images may be resized anyway, so it seems to be the best idea to use the
> largest resolution possible for screen shots. Scaling down then would
> even improve quality by reducing aliasing.
Also I notice that if I resize the fgfs window to be smaller while flying A-10
or any other aircraft with the heat haze animation while the engine is running I
get odd graphical artifacts instead of the heat haze, restoring the window size
to same as before "fixes" it.
> 
> Nine
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Missing file in cvs for dhc2F

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This happens for dhc2W too and as it (IIRC) was one of the planes suggested for
the release this should be fixed as soon as possible!

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

AnMaster wrote:
> Run fgfs with --aircraft=dhc2F :
> Error reading default aircraft: Failed to open file
>  at /mnt/flightgear/data/Aircraft/dhc2/dhc2-base.xml
> 
> And indeed that file is missing in cvs.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?

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It is still broken in plib, the "windscreen" is not transparent like in osg.

Regards,

A. Norlander

Vivian Meazza wrote:
> Durk 
> 
>> Sent: 13 December 2007 22:34
>> To: FlightGear developers discussions
>> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 13 December 2007 23:13, Vivian Meazza wrote:
>>> If Durk can give us a little time?
>>>
>> Sure, no problem.
>>
>  
> OK - I've fixed the main issue - the control stick - in cvs. Now for the
> minor ones.
> 
> V.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Christian Mayer wrote:
> AnMaster schrieb:
>> All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before 
>> uploading
>> (http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level.
> 
> I don't think that screenshots need a lossles compression. JPG is
> optimized for photograph-like images, so it works well for our
> screenshots. And even a few JPG artifacts wouldn't matter as people know
> that that's a JPG "feature" and not a FGFS fault.
> 
> Also I think your screenshot file size is too large. When people have to
> wait too long to see an image they'll skip it and perhaps might leave
> the web page. This is especially sad as many people are only looking at
> the screenshots first and then are looking for the rest, so we'll loose
> these "customers" forever... :(
> 
> My suggestion: do a JPG compression with roughly 80% - and hope that the
> full screenshot won't be much bigger than 100 KB then. If it's much
> bigger try a different screen resolution and/or a higher JPG compression.
Well if they get used for anything official whoever does it can recompress them.
 And maybe create a thumbnail or whatever.
> 
> About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their
> web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc.
> pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the
> "customer" has to scroll to see the full beauty of our screenshots. And
> not every "customer" has a screen resolution of at least 1400x1050 (or
> even better).
1400x1280, 20" here :)
> I'd aim for a full screen browser window on a screen with a resolution
> of 1280x1024 (saver: 1024x768) with a maximized browser. That leaves
> roughly a resolution of about 1200x800 (or 1000x600).
Heh, will think of that next time.
> 
> Anyway: nice screenshots!
Thanks
> 
> CU,
> Christian
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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I made some screenshots of A-10, A-6E, Lightning and Concorde. I uploaded them
to http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/flightgear/screenshots/1.0/ I might add more
if I get time.

The settings using in nvidia-settings:
Antialias: 4x, 9-tap Gaussian
Anisotropic Filtering: 8x
Texture Sharpening: Yes

All screenshots have been looselessly compressed with optipng before uploading
(http://optipng.sourceforge.net/) at max level.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we
> should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally,
> Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days,
> I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ...
> 
> - use maximum quality (antialiasing!)
> - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what
>   you want to demonstrate, of course)
> - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this
>   release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for
>   the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is
>   in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can
>   explain the feature)
> 
> Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but
> aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only
> default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal
> sun angle (shadow angle -> self-shadowing), etc. Look at some
> of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good.
> 
> The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That
> is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs
> if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics
> card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some "cheating" is
> acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects
> that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as
> long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show,
> for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can
> do with a flyable Hercules.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing,
> so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding
> (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves
> a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to
> make a normal ("aliasing") flight with my target aircraft. When I
> found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key,
> and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
> (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well
> as an index number that prevents overwriting old files).
> 
> Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with
> 
>   $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
> 
> And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and
> I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle,
> good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish,
> but workable.
> 
> Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It
> isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing
> and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard
> (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight.
> 
>   http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg  [32.9 kB]
> 
> m.
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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This may be a duplicated, didn't manage to get through first time.


Some questions:

* What resolution should be used? I normally run with maximized window. For true
full screen my monitor produces 1400x1280 however. However I don't like full 
screen.

* I can run with 2x antialias in real time (the max in nvidia settings, 16x, is
insanely slow). Should I use the snapshot way with 16x antialias?

* Should I enable "Anisotropic Filtering"?

* What about the "texture sharpening" feature?

Normally I fly with 2x antialias, 2x "Anisotropic Filtering", texture 
sharpening on.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we
> should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally,
> Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days,
> I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ...
>
> - use maximum quality (antialiasing!)
> - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what
>   you want to demonstrate, of course)
> - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this
>   release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for
>   the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is
>   in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can
>   explain the feature)
>
> Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but
> aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only
> default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal
> sun angle (shadow angle -> self-shadowing), etc. Look at some
> of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good.
>
> The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That
> is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs
> if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics
> card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some "cheating" is
> acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects
> that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as
> long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show,
> for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can
> do with a flyable Hercules.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing,
> so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding
> (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves
> a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to
> make a normal ("aliasing") flight with my target aircraft. When I
> found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key,
> and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
> (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well
> as an index number that prevents overwriting old files).
>
> Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with
>
>   $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
>
> And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and
> I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle,
> good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish,
> but workable.
>
> Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It
> isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing
> and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard
> (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight.
>
>   http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg  [32.9 kB]
>
> m.
>
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] screenshots (and "snapshots")

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Some questions:

* What resolution should be used? I normally run with maximized window. For true
full screen my monitor produces 1400x1280 however. However I don't like full 
screen.

* I can run with 2x antialias in real time (the max in nvidia settings, 16x, is
insanely slow). Should I use the snapshot way with 16x antialias?

* Should I enable "Anisotropic Filtering"?

* What about the "texture sharpening" feature?

Normally I fly with 2x antialias, 2x "Anisotropic Filtering", texture 
sharpening on.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> For a new release, especially one with version number 1.0, we
> should provide some new screenshots for the website. Normally,
> Curt would ask for that, but as he is/was away for a few days,
> I start with this reminder. Screenshots should ...
> 
> - use maximum quality (antialiasing!)
> - disable gui parts (menu/frame rate counter, unless that's what
>   you want to demonstrate, of course)
> - ideally (but not necessarily) show something that is new in this
>   release: one of the aircraft shipped in the default package for
>   the first time, or a new feature (or at least something that is
>   in context with a new feature, so that a subscription text can
>   explain the feature)
> 
> Please don't just make random snapshots of random flights, but
> aim for a good view angle, appropriate weather effects (not only
> default weather, unless that's the most appropriate :-), ideal
> sun angle (shadow angle -> self-shadowing), etc. Look at some
> of the last screenshots, most of which were quite good.
> 
> The contents of a screenshot shouldn't be (totally) cheated. That
> is: one should be able to see the same scene with a default fgfs
> if the weather, daytime etc. is the same (and one has a graphics
> card good enough for real-time antialiasing). But some "cheating" is
> acceptable, if it follows this principle. It's OK to use terrain/objects
> that aren't in the default tiles (e.g. using KNID is fine), as
> long as that's available from Jon's ObjectDB. It's *not* OK to show,
> for example, a Jeep in a Hercules, as this isn't something we can
> do with a flyable Hercules.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, my FX5500 isn't good enough for live antialiasing,
> so I use an acceptable cheating method: from a local key binding
> (Meta-d) I call a function dump_aircraft_snapshot() that saves
> a snapshot, similar to what ac_state.nas does. This allows me to
> make a normal ("aliasing") flight with my target aircraft. When I
> found a nice situation, I pause fgfs, then press the snapshot key,
> and get a snapshot file, e.g ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
> (automatically inserting the nearest airport and aircraft, as well
> as an index number that prevents overwriting old files).
> 
> Now I turn on full anti-aliasing, and run fgfs again with
> 
>   $ fgfs --aircraft=ufo ~/.fgfs/snapshot-KNID-A-10-1.xml
> 
> And now the A-10 hangs there like it did in the prior run, and
> I can use the UFO to find a good viewing angle, good sun angle,
> good weather etc. With full antialiasing that's still sluggish,
> but workable.
> 
> Here's the result of a quick test with the A-10 near KNID. It
> isn't spectacular, but you can see that there's full antialiasing
> and still a nice shadow effect. This would have been quite hard
> (though possible!) with a real A-10 flight.
> 
>   http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a10.jpg  [32.9 kB]
> 
> m.
> 
> 
> 
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[Flightgear-devel] Missing file in cvs for dhc2F

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Run fgfs with --aircraft=dhc2F :
Error reading default aircraft: Failed to open file
 at /mnt/flightgear/data/Aircraft/dhc2/dhc2-base.xml

And indeed that file is missing in cvs.

Regards,

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[Flightgear-devel] SHOW BLOCKING BUG in new scenery

[AnMaster]

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With the updated scenery for KSFO start with --aircraft=Catalina-OSG, you will
end up several feet above water and fall down, crashing. The starting place
(anchor place?) should be adjusted to work.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bleriot -> Sopwith Camel?

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Sounds good.

Durk Talsma wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> 
> In light of some recently uncovered problems related to the bleriot, how 
> about 
> making a last minute decision to replace it with the sopwith camel? The 
> bleriot seemed to be a nice touch, as it was the oldest aircraft next to the 
> WrightFlyer. The sopwith, while being slightly newer and a few MBs larger 
> than the bleriot, seems to be a lot more mature. 
> 
> I just checked the aircraft, and can confirm that it doesn't segfault by 
> switching on aircraft shadows.
> 
> Cheers,
> Durk
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG(S) with new(?) KSFO scenery in cvs

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Morten Oesterlund Joergensen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 19:39 +0100, AnMaster wrote:
>> Also I noted quite a few items out in
>> the water near runway 10L: Some lampposts and some rotating "cisterns" or 
>> something.
>>
>> Further away (37*48 56.5N, -122*18 37.8W is what HUD said for ufo, should the
>> "-" really be there? Another bug?) there are some cranes out in the water.
>>
>> Over all this new scenery is much nicer than before though. Some objects now 
>> out
>> in water should be adjusted mainly
> 
> It sounds like some of the shared objects, I added to FlightGear Scenery
> Database months ago. I am quite sure that they are placed correctly, but
> that the terrain is wrong.
> 
In either case they look bad where in the water. ;)

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Airports apt.dat.gz,1.7,1.8

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Durk Talsma wrote:
> On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:02, AnMaster wrote:
>> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>>>> Modified Files:
>>>>apt.dat.gz
>>>> Log Message:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Move/rotate Half Moon Bay (KHAF) taxiways to fit the realigned runway.
>>> Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. I've seen *many* runways where the
>>> visuals and the runway data aren't aligned. This "fix" is only
>>> KHAF-tutorial cosmetics.
>>>
>>> There are only two possibilities:
>>> - revert the old files (apt.dat.gz, and nav.dat.gz as well?)
>>> - generate and ship new scenery with v1.0
>>>
>>> Well, there's also
>>> - make FlightGear v1.0 the ultimate fgfs embarrassment (for which
>>>   0-9/11 would have been a far better name  :-}
>>>
>>> m.
> My understanding is that a full world-wide scenery rebuild is taking place 
> right now, courtesy of the Custom Scenery Project. The purpose of the rebuild 
> is mainly to incorporate the latest apt.dat modifications and the latest 
> commits to the object database. Resolution of the scenery should be 
> approximately the same as the current scenery, but using the latest 
> improvements to terragear, recently made by Ralf Gerlich. 
> 
Nice. Where can I get this scenery? As I run a terrasync mirror I need to be
able to download it to the server before the release to avoid problems. I guess
I would need about a day or so to download the new scenery to the server.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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[Flightgear-devel] BUG(S) with new(?) KSFO scenery in cvs

[AnMaster]

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I was flying at dawn in the new KSFO scenery in cvs. In general it looks nice
but the new "lamp posts" around KSFO look very odd at dawn. They are just black
boxes with some white patterns on then. Also I noted quite a few items out in
the water near runway 10L: Some lampposts and some rotating "cisterns" or 
something.

Further away (37*48 56.5N, -122*18 37.8W is what HUD said for ufo, should the
"-" really be there? Another bug?) there are some cranes out in the water.

Over all this new scenery is much nicer than before though. Some objects now out
in water should be adjusted mainly

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: data/Airports apt.dat.gz,1.7,1.8

[AnMaster]

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Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>> Modified Files:
>>  apt.dat.gz 
>> Log Message:
> [...]
>> Move/rotate Half Moon Bay (KHAF) taxiways to fit the realigned runway.
> 
> Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. I've seen *many* runways where the
> visuals and the runway data aren't aligned. This "fix" is only
> KHAF-tutorial cosmetics.
> 
> There are only two possibilities:
> - revert the old files (apt.dat.gz, and nav.dat.gz as well?)
> - generate and ship new scenery with v1.0
> 
> Well, there's also
> - make FlightGear v1.0 the ultimate fgfs embarrassment (for which
>   0-9/11 would have been a far better name  :-}
> 
> m.
> 
How long does scenery generation take? Because we really NEED it before release.

/A. Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Asterisk-1.4 Debian packages? Where to find?

[AnMaster]

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I hope this won't stop non-debian users again?

By the way I notice you keep a compiled fgcom in svn of fgcom, however that
cause problems for 64-bit users. When we run make the svn one gets overwritten
(of course). But when the fgcom executable in svn is updated svn will of course
generate a collision. I find it rather pointless to keep a binary in the svn and
it is irritating having to clean up the conflicts all the time. If you added it
by mistake I'd suggest svn help propset: "svn:ignore - A newline separated
list of file patterns to ignore."

/A. Norlander

Holger Wirtz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> some kind of off-topic, but perhaps someone has an answer:
> I need to install Asterisk-1.4 for fgcom because the conference
> application (app_meetme.so) has the facility to mute all other users in
> a conference when one user is talking (first come - first serve). Thats
> more like radio communication (ok not really but better than a full
> duplex conference).
> 
> I would like to try this but I won't compile the whole Asterisk package
> to avoid problems with the actually installed packages. But I cannot
> find such a packe for Debian _etch_. Does anyone have an entry for
> sources.list or a place where I can download the deb-package?
> 
> Thanks, Holger
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release issue: apt.dat and scenery version

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Yes this is very serious, for example the c172p "start up" tutorial placed me on
the side of the runway. And I have seen quite a few affected airports (don't
remember names sadly).

/A. Norlander

Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Stuart Buchanan -- Wednesday 12 December 2007:
>> attempting to start at Half-Moon Bay (KHAF) will place you off one
>> side of the runway in the grass 
> 
> This version mismatch also very likely breaks ILS approaches
> to lots of runways. (And more importantly: it breaks the glide
> slope tunnel visualization. ;-)
> 
> m.

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[Flightgear-devel] Updated Saitek X52 Pro joystick config

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Attached is an updated version (as a diff against cvs) of the "Saitek X52 Pro
Flight Control System" joystick config I made. I hope this can get into cvs
before release.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Input/Joysticks/Saitek/X52-pro.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -p -r1.1 X52-pro.xml
--- X52-pro.xml 4 Dec 2007 12:36:51 -   1.1
+++ X52-pro.xml 12 Dec 2007 21:41:45 -
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
   Based on X52.xml and Aviator.xml
   Modified by Arvid Norlander; 2007-12-03
 
-  This file is released under the GPL license.
+  This file is released under the GPL license version 2 or later.
 -->
 
 
 
@@ -109,6 +120,11 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:
var data = self.getNode("data");
var modifier  = data.getNode("modifier");
var mode  = data.getNode("mode");
+   # This does not change during a session.
+   #   Not called plain "aircraft" to prevent
+   #   overwriting the Nasal/aircraft.nas scope
+   #   as we need to access that too from here.
+   var aircraftModel  = getprop("/sim/aircraft");
]]>


@@ -151,7 +167,7 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:




@@ -272,6 +292,8 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:


 
+   
+


Brakes
@@ -292,7 +314,7 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:
Toggle parking brake on or off

nasal
-   controls.applyParkingBrake(1);
+   controls.applyParkingBrake(1)


 
@@ -314,17 +336,17 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:


nasal
-   controls.gearDown(0);
+   controls.gearDown(0)



 


-   HUD Master Switch
+   Cycle HUD colour

nasal
-   aircraft.HUD.cycle_color();
+   aircraft.HUD.cycle_color()


 
@@ -354,12 +376,12 @@ $Id: X52-pro.xml,v 1.1 2007-12-04 12:36:
Shift switch for X52

nasal
-   modifier.setBoolValue(1);
+   modifier.setBoolValue(1)



nasal
-   modifier.setBoolValue(0);
+   modifier.setBoolValue(0)
  

Re: [Flightgear-devel] internationalization doesn't seem working?

[AnMaster]

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Shouldn't you just export LC_ALL? All other *nix programs seems to get language
from env variables (LC_* and LANG, the order they override each other can be
confusing). So maybe like: export LC_ALL="sv_SE" (though there is no Swedish
locale for fg, maybe I'll make one if I get time).

/AnMaster

Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I want to know if internationalization of FlightGear works in 0.9.11- 
> pre2 and/or cvs/head.
> 
> Some Mac users asked me if it works so I tested it, but nothing  
> changed when I specified --language=fr or --language=it
> I launched fgfs with the following command:
> 
> % LANG=fr LC_TYPES=fr ./fgfs --fg=root=.
> 
> I also changed the Language from System Preference on Mac, which  
> changes $LANG, but nothing changed.
> 
> Do I miss somethings, maybe in compile options?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tat
>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] b1900d startup

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Syd&Sandy wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:01:39 -0600
> Robert Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On Monday 10 December 2007 07:44:27 pm Syd&Sandy wrote:
>>> I think I finally found out why the b1900d is still running at startup...
>>> The condition lever is set to 1 in the TurbineEngine.cpp file , so it
>>> appears to override anything in the set file. Ive forced it to 0 in the
>>> system.nas file during fdm initialization , but then you hear the engines
>>> shutting down Anyone know of a way to override the engine condition
>>> property ?
>>> And while I'm on the subject of YASim , is there a way to increase reverse
>>> thrust effectiveness ? Cheers
>> I was flying a jet and trying to find the reverse thruster key combo's by 
>> looking through the docs and never did find it. It might be a good idea for 
>> that to be in the aircraft help file of all the planes that have thrust 
>> reversers.  
> 
> The only aircraft I did that have reversers are the Cessna Citations , and I 
> use the Delete key to toggle reverse thrust ... I'm not sure what other 
> aircraft use ..
> Cheers
>   
> 
How does one map it to joystick correctly? I didn't find anything in
controls.nas or aircraft.nas for it


/AnMaster
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth scenery

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Gijs de Rooy wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I know there was/is a discussion about using real photo's as FlightGear 
> textures.
> Google Earth was one of the softwares that are usable for our scenery.
> We know the pictures are copyrighted, but we may use them in FlightGear 
> because:
>  
> - FlightGear is non commercial software (non paid).
>  
> And when we read this Google-quote we got the idea we may use the pics...
>  
> "You can personally use an image from the application (for example on your 
> website, 
> on a blog or in a word document) as long as you preserve the copyrights and 
> attributions 
> including the Google logo attribution. However, you cannot sell these to 
> others, provide 
> them as part of a service, or use them in a commercial product such as a book 
> or TV 
> show without first getting a rights clearance from Google."

As you can sell GPL software (for example sell CDs with it on) google's license
would not be GPL compatible I belive. But I'm not a lawyer.
>  
> My English is not perfect so I may read these sentences on a wrong way. Please
> tell me if so.
>  
> After all we just need someone who write Google to ask permission.
> Here's the aplication form: 
> http://services.google.com/permissions/application :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Gijs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] B1900d engine sounds

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Syd&Sandy wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:02:45 +0100
> AnMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> Will Harrison wrote:
>>> I had noticed the problem with the engine sounds a couple weeks ago, but now
>>> I have all the sounds again after a cvs update. I haven't noticed any issues
>>> with the avionics. You have to flip a switch to turn them on, maybe you just
>>> didn't notice it?
>> At least earlier it was a problem related to an empty directory that cvs
>> removed. It was needed by the b1900d. The empty directory in question is
>> "Liveries", I placed a placeholder file in it locally. Probably some files
>> should actually go into it or it shouldn't be needed.
>>
> 
> No, the liveries are now in Models/Liveries , to stay consistant with other 
> models .But for some reason I can't remove empty folders from CVS ...
>  Cheers
> Syd&Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
Still removing that emtpy folder cause engines sounds to get lost here.

/A. Norlander
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[Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: Harrier patch for fgfs!]

[AnMaster]

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I asked the original author of the harrier model if he was ok with my patch to
make the trust vector show up over MP.

Below is his reply (the mailing list didn't like when I attached it so I just
pasted his reply below, but if you want I could send the attached letter
directly to you).

Regards,

Arvid Norlander


- From - Sat Dec  8 23:51:06 2007
From: Steve Havlir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Harrier patch for fgfs! [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel]
 multiplayer generic properties]
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Date: Sat,  8 Dec 2007 16:41:54 -0600 (CST)

I do not have a problem with someone making commits to the Harrier, as long as
it works :-)
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