Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Dave Culp
Still, I didn't mean to blame the problems on the FDMs. I just called it FDM stuttering because this is what the user sees (and because the ground-cache code is in the FDM/ directory :-) But the FDM only stuttered, because it wasn't called in time, because of unfortunate groundcache/beacon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Dave Culp -- Monday 30 May 2005 09:27: The groundcache/beacon interaction was only effecting the Yasim FDM, correct? I've only tested it with YASim (bo105, b1900d) where I saw it before, but not after fixing it. I can't say if it happened with JSBSim, although I use both regularly. m.

[Flightgear-devel] FGFS final link fails: _imp__pthread symbols not found

2005-05-30 Thread Giles Robertson
I've tried compiling fgfs from cvs on mingw again. There are various little changes which I'll roll up at some point (as in, when it's working ;). However, there's an odd problem I'm getting at final link: g++ -DPKGLIBDIR=\/point/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -L/point/lib -o fgfs.exe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RC aircraft + ground view

2005-05-30 Thread Sam Heyman
Lee Elliott wrote: On Monday 30 May 2005 01:02, Sam Heyman wrote: I have finished implementing an RC UAV (2.2m span) and am now trying to create a new view, that corresponds to the guy standing next to the runway, near the plane. Is there an existing view I can use and edit, or do I have to

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have been a big

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RC aircraft + ground view

2005-05-30 Thread Steven Beeckman
Citeren Sam Heyman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee Elliott wrote: On Monday 30 May 2005 01:02, Sam Heyman wrote: I have finished implementing an RC UAV (2.2m span) and am now trying to create a new view, that corresponds to the guy standing next to the runway, near the plane. snip Hi Lee,

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have

[Flightgear-devel] Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
I've just updated and built todays CVS code, discovered a problem. Starting on runway 09 at EGNM with the default cessna the sim freezes a couple of seconds after the aircraft starts rolling. I don't think it's even travelled its own length. Menus are all still fully operational, and shift-esc

[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
I'm finally getting around to reinstalling FlightGear after a hard drive crash a couple months ago. I have this as a place to get OpenAL for Cygwin: http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/openal.tgz Is this still the latest/best dist? Jon ___

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-05-30 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jon Berndt wrote: I'm finally getting around to reinstalling FlightGear after a hard drive crash a couple months ago. I have this as a place to get OpenAL for Cygwin: http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/openal.tgz Is this still the latest/best dist? Try this version:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-05-30 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes: Jon Berndt wrote: I'm finally getting around to reinstalling FlightGear after a hard drive crash a couple months ago. I have this as a place to get OpenAL for Cygwin: http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/openal.tgz Is this still the latest/best

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Erik Hofman
Giles Robertson wrote: See the same thing with CVS at KSFO this morning (but thought it was a local problem). Higher logging levels produce our well-known and well-loved no scenery below the aircraft ground cache message. I've just updated and built todays CVS code, discovered a problem.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 30 May 2005 18:22: I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. And I first saw it when I tried to reproduce Jon's problem. Which worked. Seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Dave Culp
well-loved no scenery below the aircraft ground cache message. I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. Maybe this is something to do with OS, compiler, or video card?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Dave Culp wrote: well-loved no scenery below the aircraft ground cache message. I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. Maybe this is something to do with OS,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGFS final link fails: _imp__pthread symbols not found

2005-05-30 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Giles Robertson wrote: I've tried compiling fgfs from cvs on mingw again. There are various little changes which I'll roll up at some point (as in, when it's working ;). However, there's an odd problem I'm getting at final link: g++ -DPKGLIBDIR=\/point/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 30 May 2005 18:22: I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. And I first saw it when I tried to reproduce Jon's problem. Which worked.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le lundi 30 mai 2005 11:36 -0500, Dave Culp a crit : well-loved no scenery below the aircraft ground cache message. I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 18:53: * * Melchior FRANZ: And I first saw it when I tried to reproduce Jon's problem. Which worked. Seems like I do really somehow prefer YASim, at least always if I try to test stuff. (The bo105 may have to do with it.) YASim works. Only JSBSim doesn't.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
Only the **C-172** doesn't? Or, any JSBSim aircraft? I tried several aircraft: all YASim worked. None of the JSBSim aircraft did. But I wouldn't worry about it. Give Mathias a few hours time. That's probably not hard to fix. (And enjoy the bo105 in the meantime! :-) m. You suspect the new

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Jon Berndt wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Monday 30 May 2005 18:22: I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. And I first saw it when I tried to reproduce Jon's problem. Which

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 19:12: You suspect the new ground callback code? Yes, that's a safe bet. The clouds can hardly do that, neither can my modified beacon. There were no other commits. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: * Erik Hofman -- Monday 30 May 2005 18:22: I don't get it, I didn't see this behavior until after I committed the patches, when I noticed it once. Melchior has these patches also applied and didn't complain. And I first saw it when I tried to reproduce Jon's problem. Which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Dave Culp
Only JSBSim doesn't. :-( While we're finding out the cause and fixing the ground cache thing, how about making a small modification to JSBSim.cxx that will spit out useful data and *not* freeze the FDM? (about line 409) // Compute the potential movement of this aircraft and query for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le lundi 30 mai 2005 12:34 -0500, Dave Culp a crit : Only JSBSim doesn't. :-( cout altitude = alt endl; cout sea level radius = slr endl; cout latitude = lat endl; cout longitude= lon endl; //return; } I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGFS final link fails: _imp__pthread symbols not

2005-05-30 Thread Martin Spott
Giles Robertson wrote: g++ -DPKGLIBDIR=\/point/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT [...] -lpthread is missing - same effect as with GCC-3.4.2 on Solaris. Add it manually and feel happy ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:43 +0200, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with Terrasynch

2005-05-30 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 30 May 2005 00:03, Lee Elliott wrote: On Sunday 29 May 2005 17:27, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello all, I've just tried to use terrasynch for the first time but I'm getting connection time-outs. I _think_ I've got it set up and running correctly at this end but I don't know how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with Terrasynch

2005-05-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott wrote: Can anyone confirm that terrasynch is currently working? Hmmm, the master scenery server looks like it may have gone down ... I can't ping it or log into it right now. It's going to have to wait until tomorrow am before I'll be near the machine to look at it though.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Problems with todays CVS

2005-05-30 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le lundi 30 mai 2005 21:45 +0200, Gerard ROBIN a crit : Le lundi 30 mai 2005 12:34 -0500, Dave Culp a crit : Only JSBSim doesn't. :-( cout altitude = alt endl; cout sea level radius = slr endl; cout latitude = lat endl; cout

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm not certain the area that the ground cache covers, but I suspect it has applications beyond just contact points. ISTR Lee was wanting to know ground elevation a distance ahead of the aircraft for the terrain following mode of the TSR2s