Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-15 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
How about smelly exhaust? =P Ampere On September 15, 2004 10:17 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > If you lock your rotor brake when starting a turbine you will burn the > > blades of the working turbine part - good luck! > > Once I implement the rotor brake, I'll need to know what I had > to expect &

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:58:00 +0200, Melchior wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:52:30PM +, Martin Spott wrote: > > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > I'm in exile and handling email via > > > telnet/mutt on a Win95/100MHz/8MB machine; very painful! :-/ ) > > > > Try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:52:30PM +, Martin Spott wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > I'm in exile and handling email via > > telnet/mutt on a Win95/100MHz/8MB machine; very painful! :-/ ) > > Try 'PuTTY' - presumably the best you can get on Windows: I meant 'telnet' -- the protocol, not Micr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-15 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 04:52:01PM +0200, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > > If you lock your rotor brake when starting a turbine you will burn the > > blades of the working turbine part - good luck! > Once I implement the rotor brake, I'll need to know what I had > to expect & mo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-15 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 04:52:01PM +0200, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > due to my bad english knowledge I will repeat some technical expressions in > German, Melchior Franz will understand it: I'm Austrian! Well, I do of course understand some German words ... And by the way, your English seems fine fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 09:50:50AM +, Martin Spott wrote: > I hope you didn't misunderstand me. It was _not_ my intention to drag > your startup procedure in the mud. No problem. Despite the unfinished state of the FDM the Nasal parts could perhaps be more realistic at least. As I said, I'll

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-13 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > I fly regularly with helicopters (just 4 days ago with an AB212), but > unfortunately I don't usually pay much attention to this. Mostly > they do pick me up with running engines and rotors. I remember, > though, that an AB204 pilot started the engine first, and *then* > cl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 08:21:47PM +, Martin Spott wrote: > According to what I've seen (partly from very nearby) helicopter pilots > use to start their turbines with the transmission already clutched to > the engine. I fly regularly with helicopters (just 4 days ago with an AB212), but unfort

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Boris Koenig
Giles Robertson wrote: Automatic gearboxes fail too often on the road, without much warning, for me to want one in a chopper. At least if a fixed wing engine fails you can attempt to glide. I've talked about that to a real helicopter pilot at our local club: Most real rotary pilots would tell you t

RE: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Giles Robertson
: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work Not if the helicopter uses an automatic transmission. =P Ampere On September 12, 2004 12:35 pm, Martin Spott wrote: > BTW, isn't this totally irrealistic ? I've never seen a heli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Not if the helicopter uses an automatic transmission. =P Ampere On September 12, 2004 12:35 pm, Martin Spott wrote: > BTW, isn't this totally irrealistic ? I've never seen a helicopter > clutching the rotor with engines at full speed - I assume this would > break the whole transmission at once !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > The 'faked' engine startup process doesn't look that bad. I simply > wonder why you didn't sync rotor acceleration to it. To be honest: I > don't understand how you managed to separate the two Sorry, I forgot tthe smilie - here you are: :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 04:35:15PM +, Martin Spott wrote: > > BTW, isn't this totally irrealistic ? I've never seen a helicopter > > clutching the rotor with engines at full speed - I assume this would > > break the whole transmission at once ! > No, it isn't totally r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 04:35:15PM +, Martin Spott wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Dave Perry wrote: > > > 1. bo105 - no power. [...] > > > Shift-]-> start turbines > > wait 30 seconds > > Shift-] again -> clutch rotor > > BTW, isn't this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Dave Perry wrote: > > 1. bo105 - no power. I did not look for the reason. > Shift-]-> start turbines > wait 30 seconds > Shift-] again -> clutch rotor BTW, isn't this totally irrealistic ? I've never seen a helicopter clu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 10:17:12AM +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Shift-]-> start turbines > wait 30 seconds > Shift-] again -> clutch rotor err ... it's less than 30 seconds, actually. Just wait for 100% engine power. Then you'll have to wait around 30 seconds for the rotor to spin up to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Matevz Jekovec wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > >On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Dave Perry wrote: > > > > > >>1. bo105 - no power. I did not look for the reason. > >> > >> > > > >Shift-]-> start turbines > >wait 30 seconds > >Shift-] again -> clutch rotor > > > >m. > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Perry wrote: 3. f104 - no power. This used to work. I'm baffled about this one. It's not clear to me what is causing this. 4. j3cub - Aborted. This used to work. This dos work for me. If it's an "assertion" problem then it is caused by OpenAL. Just try to start FlightGear again and things w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Melchior FRANZ wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Dave Perry wrote: 1. bo105 - no power. I did not look for the reason. Shift-]-> start turbines wait 30 seconds Shift-] again -> clutch rotor m. Does fgfs use direct key addressing or is it important which keymap do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Dave Perry wrote: > 1. bo105 - no power. I did not look for the reason. Shift-]-> start turbines wait 30 seconds Shift-] again -> clutch rotor m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

RE: [Flightgear-devel] next release - ac that don't work

2004-09-11 Thread Jon Berndt
> 6. shuttle - broken (maybe I don't know what it is supposed to do) I would suggest that the shuttle should not be released at the moment. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear